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I must start off by saying I'd never heard of Lady Gaga - I'd no idea whether it's a her or a him or undecided. Googling her (it was a her I discovered!) shows that she herself is a copy - she took her name from a hit by Queen "Radio Gaga"! So she has some claim to expertise in the art of copying. However, she obviously has no taste - why waltz into a country with a proud reputation for fake watches (as, incidentally, have many of its neighbouring countries) and only aspire to a Rolex - such a crass choice! Me? I proudly wear a Patek Philippe bought from a highly reputable back room jeweller in Bangla Street, Phuket. I know it is genuine because when I bought it because it cost twice as much as those ugly old fake Rolexes - 6000 baht! I was told afterwards by Thai friends I had paid through the nose for it. Still, I don't care - I've had it two years, its authentic rose gold colouring hasn't worn off and it keeps excellent time - I adjust it by no more than 2 seconds a week! I was told by a proper (not fake) jeweller it was the best of its type I could have bought as it has a genuine Seiko movement. He also told me that genuine (really genuine!) Tag Heuer watches contain exactly the same Seiko movement.

So Thailand can be proud indeed of its reproduction (let's not call them fake, so pejorative a term that) watch industry, along with its reproduction software, CD's, leatherwear and the like. It need not bow its head to any of its competing neighbours save in the case of Vietnam, where it is still possible to have a excellent tuxedo with all the trimmings (cummerbund, dress shirt etc.) made from authentic Barathea cloth overnight or with two fittings one more day for US$250 ($3,000 plus in your home country!). What about a pair of patent leather made to measure shoes to match? Ladies, please don't feel ignored - a dress from a page torn out of Vogue or some such, complete with two or more fitting sessions to the same timetable for very little money indeed. Is this copying or good old private enterprise?

So keep up the good work Thailand - just a little improvement in the tailoring stakes and you'll be a world beater!

If gohmer had used the word "praised" in place of the "mocked" and "would be even more envied" in place of "wouldn't be mocked" I would have agreed with him! Don't we have a pretty successful tourist industry already?

Maybe she has a darn good point. Maybe if more Thais mocked Thailand, Thailand wouldn't be mocked by the rest of the world as a cheap place to vacation, a cheap place to get laid, a cheap place to buy illegal stuff, just a plain cheap place.

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With all this stupid nationalism, xenophobia and hypocritical image obsession displayed by some locals, I find find more than fitting that the concert apparently is called "The Born This Way Ball"...

Also quite surprised that nobody hung themselves up over her comment about "50,000 screaming Thai monsters" - unless 'monsters' is simply pop lingo for 'loving fans', of course.

thinik maybe it refers to he monster song and monster tour etc

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At least she didn't say anything about wanting to see ladyboys or visiting a gay go-go bar to see some **** tongue.png

I had first encountered her music in Asia. I was in Phnom Penh at the happening Blue Chili bar and the drag performers were doing their lipsynch acts. This Western guy had picked "Just Dance", which I had never heard before but boy did I hear it then! The room just erupted on the chorus, it was on a scale of what Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" had done to people in the 90s. I knew right there & then that she was going to be huge. It was a great musical moment for a music lover like me and she's been "on my good side" ever since (even though I find her last album cover nausea inducing).

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We got to listen to Led Zep, Pinkl Floyd, Roxy Music, Steely Dan and Springsteen growing up and they get Justin Beiber and Lady bloody Gaga!

This is an unfair comparison. Not all people in a generation listen to the same music and there was plenty of awful shlock back in the 60's & 70s and there is still plenty of good stuff around now... and I'm 50, btw, so not anywhere near the current pop-consumming age.

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Why are so many celebrities—and politicians, come to that—such arrogant idiots? Ms. Germanotta certainly lives up to her stage name. Let's all surf and download her albums for free. Not that I'd want to listen to them.

Interesting -- Will her comments actually generate more bootlegging of her music...? She may not care.. selling cd's is not exactly all that profitable these days.

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lmao . . . just over the comment on fake watches. wonder what will their reaction of others speaking on prostitution, transsexuals and drugs.

and how about hundreds of dvd's with child porn for sale on Pattaya's Beach Rd. and Bangkok's Sukhumvit area still today, same as for the last 20-some years?

Although completely off topic ... Nobody was selling any DVDs anywhere in the world 20-years ago let alone in Pattaya or Bangkok.

A bit pedantic Nisa and doesn't change the point he's making!

VCDs have been around for 20 years and many don't know the difference between these and DVDs; VCDs are actually the medium of choice in Thailand for porn and copies... You're correct, DVDs have only been on sale since 1996 (c.17 years) but VCDs pre-date these and have been around for 20 years now, first on sale in 1993!thumbsup.gif

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cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif This is hilarious. The Land of the Fake being called The Land of the Fake and the inhabitants crying foul. cheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gifcheesy.gif

its the HUB of the fakes man for god's sake get it right! tongue.png

You are so ignorant it's not funny. mad.gif

Thailand was NEVER the HUB of the fakes. That honour used to belong to Japan, then Taiwan, but both have been surpassed over the last 10 years or more by China. It’s become so good at stealing other people's trade secrets it too is no longer the HUB - it's the entire WHEEL! It's conned the entire World into believing Germany, France, England and that most gullible country of all USA delivers their own original products. Turn the product over - sometimes it may say it's made other than in China - but who owns the factories where it is built? And who unwittingly paid for these factories - those same countries from which the original trade secrets were stolen! And how have they paid for them? With factory closures, huge levels of unemployment, plummeting house prices, collapsing currencies, totally insolvent countries, and the worst depression since 1929 getting worse by the day.

Thailand's role in all this is minuscule.

Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?

Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!

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Unfortunately I am unable to comment at this time because I was unable to attend the “Born this way” concert last night but lucky for me the DVD of the Bangkok performance was already available on Sukhumvit.

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Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?

Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!

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well she is someone who has sold over 4 million albums so thats already 4 million people who know her and willing to spend money on her music(legally)

You can double that amount if you count the illegal downloads, triple it if you account for people who actually follow any kind of music scene and multiply it by 10, when taking into account people who read fashion mags.

Now,, who and what exactly are you?

And who cares about Chinese? is this thread about Chinese? or unemployment or factory closure's?

May i suggest before you start to post total and utter drivel you actually thinkrolleyes.gif

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Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?

Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!

hit-the-fan.gifhit-the-fan.gifhit-the-fan.gif

well she is someone who has sold over 4 million albums so thats already 4 million people who know her and willing to spend money on her music(legally)

You can double that amount if you count the illegal downloads, triple it if you account for people who actually follow any kind of music scene and multiply it by 10, when taking into account people who read fashion mags.

Now,, who and what exactly are you?

And who cares about Chinese? is this thread about Chinese? or unemployment or factory closure's?

May i suggest before you start to post total and utter drivel you actually thinkrolleyes.gif

maybe he should contact the pattaya consumers affair branch.

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Let's put Lady Gaga into perspective - she's a nothing, a nobody - who the hell cares what she says about anything?

Let's worry more about who's cosying up to the Chinese!

hit-the-fan.gifhit-the-fan.gifhit-the-fan.gif

well she is someone who has sold over 4 million albums so thats already 4 million people who know her and willing to spend money on her music(legally)

You can double that amount if you count the illegal downloads, triple it if you account for people who actually follow any kind of music scene and multiply it by 10, when taking into account people who read fashion mags.

Now,, who and what exactly are you?

And who cares about Chinese? is this thread about Chinese? or unemployment or factory closure's?

May i suggest before you start to post total and utter drivel you actually thinkrolleyes.gif

maybe he should contact the pattaya consumers affair branch.

Or may be you could get the actual name of the organization correct to avoid being labelled a trollthumbsup.gif

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Unfortunately I am unable to comment at this time because I was unable to attend the “Born this way” concert last night but lucky for me the DVD of the Bangkok performance was already available on Sukhumvit.

I saw the "no cameras/video recorders" and wondered how could they ever detach Thais from their iPhones/BlackBerries. Statement was probably as false as the Rolex she wanted. Did she ever get one, perhaps the vendor threw in a free pirated recording of her show ?

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I saw the "no cameras/video recorders" and wondered how could they ever detach Thais from their iPhones/BlackBerries.

They didn't detach the Thais, or any other nationalities, from their smartphones, there were security searches prior to entering the stadium, but the smartphones made it through, as did a number of cameras.

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I saw the "no cameras/video recorders" and wondered how could they ever detach Thais from their iPhones/BlackBerries.

They didn't detach the Thais, or any other nationalities, from their smartphones, there were security searches prior to entering the stadium, but the smartphones made it through, as did a number of cameras.

if guard skills at the stadium anything like guards at BTS or MRT, i am surprised no one brought live broadcast video

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Thais are super sensitive to outside comment because deep down they have a crushing inferiority complex...

Following that theory, it's not deep down. One silly tweet and it's exposed.

There have been some complexes exposed in this thread, but mainly concerning some foreigners here who are so eager to get upset with Thais they are going in to a frenzy over a manufactured news story and non existent outrage. No one cares what this Gaga person said except a handful of people on twitter trying to draw attention to themselves.

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Thais are super sensitive to outside comment because deep down they have a crushing inferiority complex...

Following that theory, it's not deep down. One silly tweet and it's exposed.

There have been some complexes exposed in this thread, but mainly concerning some foreigners here who are so eager to get upset with Thais they are going in to a frenzy over a manufactured news story and non existent outrage. No one cares what this Gaga person said except a handful of people on twitter trying to draw attention to themselves.

Now that we've heard from the Thai-ier than thou defense league, we can call it a day!
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Unfortunately I am unable to comment at this time because I was unable to attend the “Born this way” concert last night but lucky for me the DVD of the Bangkok performance was already available on Sukhumvit.

I saw the "no cameras/video recorders" and wondered how could they ever detach Thais from their iPhones/BlackBerries. Statement was probably as false as the Rolex she wanted. Did she ever get one, perhaps the vendor threw in a free pirated recording of her show ?

Pirated? Oh No Not here in Thailand it had an official DVD sleeve in Genuine cellophane and Everything, complete with single sided print "Born This WAY"

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Lady Gaga is a very young person without any important background of studies at university. She does not know Thailand, she does not care, she did not intend to be offensive. She is an excellent professional making a poor joke, that's it. She just repeats what she heard. Within 3 days, she'll have forgotten all about Thailand.

IF you (you are) going to make comments on someone's education and background, may i (I) suggest you get your grammar and language skills to a higher level.

She sure has more (enough) talent and education to have reached the four million mark in digital sales and have a second world tour

Maybe you should get your writing abilities up to par before you comment on another person's effort. "More", in your usage, is comparative. You didn't compare it to anything. You should have written "more than enough" or simply "enough", as I have indicated in parenthesis.

Thanks for your time.

good to see yet another "qualified" teacherthumbsup.gif got a job yet?

I think you asked for that.

You don't need to be a qualified teacher to know that was wrong.

As for her comment it may well have been for publicity as although she is talented musically she keeps ahead of everyone but being outrageous and provocative. It could be said to be irresponsible in that it might seem to support piracy but to suggest that it insults Thailand because it's not like that is ridiculous.

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Thais are super sensitive to outside comment because deep down they have a crushing inferiority complex...

Following that theory, it's not deep down. One silly tweet and it's exposed.

There have been some complexes exposed in this thread, but mainly concerning some foreigners here who are so eager to get upset with Thais they are going in to a frenzy over a manufactured news story and non existent outrage. No one cares what this Gaga person said except a handful of people on twitter trying to draw attention to themselves.

Now that we've heard from the Thai-ier than thou defense league, we can call it a day!

And next time she comes to BKK she can buy a pair of fake pink shades instead of watches, so that she starts saying things we all want to hear. :rolleyes:

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Thais are super sensitive to outside comment because deep down they have a crushing inferiority complex...

Following that theory, it's not deep down. One silly tweet and it's exposed.

There have been some complexes exposed in this thread, but mainly concerning some foreigners here who are so eager to get upset with Thais they are going in to a frenzy over a manufactured news story and non existent outrage. No one cares what this Gaga person said except a handful of people on twitter trying to draw attention to themselves.

Now that we've heard from the Thai-ier than thou defense league, we can call it a day!

There is nothing to defend. The vast majority of Thais don't care what she said. Only a handful of people on twitter commented and some reporter just wanted to create a controversy that doesn't really exist. The only people getting outraged here are some foreigners over the idea of Thais being outraged, which they are not

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