Jeep Imported From Japan One Year Later Dealer Asking For 300000 Baht

[tomtaylor1]

In December 2010 I purchased from a dealer in Bangkok a jeep recently imported second hand from Japan, it was registered in my name at Land Transport Office Nakhon Pathom, it was previously owned by his wife before being transfered into my name, it has green digits and numerels on the license plate the same as a 2 door pick up, he now says I will need to transfer to a number plate with black insignia, cost 300000 Baht or I could have trouble with the police.

I have paid the road tax 2 times without any problems being 1050 Baht per year.

What is the issues with this, what is happening,

Does this money need to be paid,

Am I liable to pay this,

Should he have to pay,

Can I register this in jeep in Chonburi,

What would happen if I later tried to sell the jeep.

Any information would be gratefully received.

[John 1]

Something is not correct if you are paying 1050bt per year for the tax that's what you would pay on a old Suzuki 10 years old. I note you don't say what year or model of Jeep this is.

[stevenl]

Something is not correct if you are paying 1050bt per year for the tax that's what you would pay on a old Suzuki 10 years old. I note you don't say what year or model of Jeep this is.

2 doors, so very cheap in tax. Age are value makes no difference. And this jeep is seen as 2-doors, hence the white/green plates, so the tax seems ok.

But if it is a 4-door car that would explain the present 'confusion' for the OP.

[thaicbr]

Something is not correct if you are paying 1050bt per year for the tax that's what you would pay on a old Suzuki 10 years old. I note you don't say what year or model of Jeep this is.

2 doors, so very cheap in tax. Age are value makes no difference. And this jeep is seen as 2-doors, hence the white/green plates, so the tax seems ok.

But if it is a 4-door car that would explain the present 'confusion' for the OP.

Age does make a difference. Road tax reduces over a 5 year period. If it is a car then its NOT a pickup truck. The plate is for a pickup not a car. I'm afraid to say you bought a dodgy plated 2 door car. I would try and get the guy to buy it back considering he sold you an illegally plated car. Good luck with that.

Op. What is happening is that customs and the police are cracking down on imported cars that have not paid the correct tax OR that have bypassed registration rules. Why did a bkk. Seller do the transfer in Nakhon Pathom? Because its easier that's why.

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[stevenl]

Something is not correct if you are paying 1050bt per year for the tax that's what you would pay on a old Suzuki 10 years old. I note you don't say what year or model of Jeep this is.

2 doors, so very cheap in tax. Age are value makes no difference. And this jeep is seen as 2-doors, hence the white/green plates, so the tax seems ok.

But if it is a 4-door car that would explain the present 'confusion' for the OP.

Age does make a difference. Road tax reduces over a 5 year period. If it is a car then its NOT a pickup truck. The plate is for a pickup not a car. I'm afraid to say you bought a dodgy plated 2 door car. I would try and get the guy to buy it back considering he sold you an illegally plated car. Good luck with that.

Op. What is happening is that customs and the police are cracking down on imported cars that have not paid the correct tax OR that have bypassed registration rules. Why did a bkk. Seller do the transfer in Nakhon Pathom? Because its easier that's why.

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Many of the jeeps here drive around with white/green plates. AFAIK these plates are for 2-door trucks, not exclusively pickups. So a 2-door jeep would/could be completely legal with white/green plates. See also this.

So for the OP, it really depends on the kind of car what kind of plates he would need, and whether the present plates are legal or not.

[stingray]

Your Jeep was declared as a 2 door Pick Up Truck, therefore the green plates. They try to escape the high import tax and facked the "Style" of the car. Now the ministery of transportation will crackdown and check it, so you have to register your Jeep as a SUV, i guess, therefore the big taxation. SUVs have black number plates. You will not beable to register it in Chonbury anyway, until not pay up the new taxation. Actually the dealer cheated you in this case, but now you are reponsabile, because you are the owner in the blue book. So you have pay it. BTW, i woud not pay the dealer anything. Go to the ministery of transport, where you pay the yearly roadtax on the vehicle. They will tell you what you have to pay. Personaly i think 300'000 is to high, i tought more like about 30'000 Baht, but i'm not sure how mutch exactly.

You have to pay it first, as i said, you are the owner now and after it's a 'civil matter" and up to you if you want take the dealer to the court. But i think the story can take years and it's not worth it.

[kwonitoy]

My Jeep has green numbers on a white background, I've got the blue book, gov insurance every year, road inspected, completly legal

It's a 32 year old army jeep, and the yearly tax is 1050 baht

You don't need the black letter plates, the dealer is trying to screw you out of a LOT of money, Is he offering to "handle everything" if you hand over the money?

[thaicbr]

My Jeep has green numbers on a white background, I've got the blue book, gov insurance every year, road inspected, completly legal

It's a 32 year old army jeep, and the yearly tax is 1050 baht

You don't need the black letter plates, the dealer is trying to screw you out of a LOT of money, Is he offering to "handle everything" if you hand over the money?

Your Jeep is a Jeep. I'm guessing his Jeep is a Jeep as in the American brand name 2 door SUV

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[kwonitoy]

My Jeep has green numbers on a white background, I've got the blue book, gov insurance every year, road inspected, completly legal

It's a 32 year old army jeep, and the yearly tax is 1050 baht

You don't need the black letter plates, the dealer is trying to screw you out of a LOT of money, Is he offering to "handle everything" if you hand over the money?

Your Jeep is a Jeep. I'm guessing his Jeep is a Jeep as in the American brand name 2 door SUV

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I've looked at other Jeep's, the American type CJ5, and they had the same plates as mine, white with green numbers. According to the link by steveni that's the right plate for a Jeep of any kind

Strange, my jeep was bought from a TV member from Pattaya and it also had Nakon Panom registration, but I had no difficulty changing it over to Udon Thani when I bought it though.

[richard_smith237]

This seems a little odd. You have had the jeep transferred into your name (i.e. your name is in the blue book) and you have taxed the Jeep for 2 years already.

What has this got to do with the dealer who sold you the car two years ago?

I can only guess that the the Green Plates are not for a Pickup (2 door) but for a 2 door car registered to a business and somehow the car is still linked to the dealers business.

I would be reluctant to pay the dealer anything. You might be able to re-register the Car at the department of land transport and put the car on 'black on white' plates. Only then will you know exactly where you stand.

[stevenl]

Without knowing what kind of car we are talking about this is all just speculation.

[stingray]

If its a Jeep Cherokee or a Jeep Wrangler, than it need to have black letters on white plates. Only Pick Up Trucks, can have green letters on white background. Nakom Phatom and Ajuttaya are common places to get illegal cars registered, specially illegal imported American Cars, but you can't tranfer it to BKK or Chonbury. Police can stop you anytime andf confiscate the vehicle is they suspect someting illegal. Tax can be paid without showing the car (for a few exrabaht), therfore you will beable to tax your cas anually, You have to tell us what kind of Jeep is it or put a picture on the topic

[tomtaylor1]

The Jeep is a wrangler TJ made in 2000, 2 door, 2 seats in the front, with space in the rear for a small 2 person seat which is not fitted. In the registration book it is registered as new in 2010.

[harrry]

With the sum wanted being so high I would worry that the crackdown he is talking about is the one about importing vehicles by thais abroad and then selling them while they have a no sell period of a couple of years. If he sold it this would make it liable to import taxes.

[soi41]

Like anything else in Thailand, carregistration is a lottery. I have 6 (!) more or less customiized Jeeps all with no/two doors. And whenever I have changed numberplates, which has been done with all 6, I have allways got the same color local numberplate as the numberplate from the previous province. So on 6 quite simular cars I have 2 with green text and 4 with black text. So nothing to do with being a pickup/business related. The color of numberplate/tax is only related to the number of doors, so with a 2 doors TJ it is perfectly OK with green licensplates.

So to the OP, continue to enjoy your lovely car. Pay your insurrance and tax and IMO you'll have no problems whatsoever.

As for the dealer, tell him to get lost. You have been the owner of the car for 2 years, none of his business.

As for changing to Chonburi, there is no reason for doing it really, but if you want to do it, take the necessary paperwork and the car and go to your local DLT office. Do NOT mention your worries about the licensplate, just ask them how to change the registration to their province. And I am sure after a couple of days, you will be able to get your new licensplates to a cost of less than 2000 baht. Best of luck !

[stevenl]

I agree with Harry, that would also be the reason the dealer is coming back on this, why else would he care. Unfortunately for the OP the car can be confiscated from him. Difficult situation, especially since there is no way to know for sure the 300K will do the job.

Especially since a Jeep like that can be registered as a 2-door truck with white-green plates.

[stingray]

The Jeep is a wrangler TJ made in 2000, 2 door, 2 seats in the front, with space in the rear for a small 2 person seat which is not fitted. In the registration book it is registered as new in 2010.

If it have no seats in the back, i guess it's registered as a Pick Up Truck. It have nothing to do with the amount of doors, just no seats in the back. Shoud be no problem to register it in Chonburi.

[tomtaylor1]

Hi All, transfered the registration from Nakhon Pathom to Chonburi, received the new number plate to day, collect the new book in 1 week. I feel much happier now this has been done, the book shows the jeep as having 6 seats, not 2, the clerk said this is no problem, every thing ok.

Any further comment would be welcome.

Thank you for all of your input on this matter.

Regards Tom

[thaicbr]

Hi All, transfered the registration from Nakhon Pathom to Chonburi, received the new number plate to day, collect the new book in 1 week. I feel much happier now this has been done, the book shows the jeep as having 6 seats, not 2, the clerk said this is no problem, every thing ok.

Any further comment would be welcome.

Thank you for all of your input on this matter.

Regards Tom

6 seats in a 2 door pickup!!!

Ummm did you have to pay new road tax for the new plate? Was it the same amount or Higher because of the seats?

Is it still a white plate green letters?

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