Applying For Gun License To Carry Nation-Wide All Provinces.

[Holysteel]

I am saying this in a Thai person perspective. Not a work permit holder, a PR or whatever or an expats. How does a Thai go ahead and acquired a license to carry in all provinces here in Thailand?

Does he have to meet some money requirements? perhaps a thousand million baht account?

Head of state, being a judge, head of police, head of army ????

I heard even these people dun stand a chance of applying it.

So whats the real scenario ?

[David48]

Does he have to meet some money requirements? perhaps a thousand million baht account?

Since it's a serious question (thousand million baht account ... ) it's fair to ask do you assume that Thai woman arn't allowed to carry a firearm?

If guns are the answer ... it''s a very silly question.

[cdnvic]

There was a recent news discussion on it that may give you some answers.

If you can sift out the information from the fighting.

[smokie36]

There was a recent news discussion on it that may give you some answers.

http://www.thaivisa....__hl__ firearms

If you can sift out the information from the fighting.

I would have thought the arguments would be short lived!

[Heng]

You'll need to show a need to carry. Obviously significant assets are a good starting point. I know plenty of folks who have gold shops and swaths of real estate who can't get approved. I do know a few folks who own gem cutting and polishing companies who have managed to get their peon (no asset) couriers licensed though, so there isn't any clear cut criteria.

:-)

[MrRealDeal]

Actually........... Worldwide the best way to get a handgun permit is to be a gem dealer.

[Holysteel]

I have to clarify abit further on this. Im not talking about province license to carry. But the whole of Thailand. Anyone know anything about this

[chrisinth]

Join the police, army or forestry rangers. The number of people you see tooled up around here at night is pretty scary in the respect that nothing kicks off.

Even though none of the above have the authority to carry (unless in the couse of their duty) nobody will say anything.

[Holysteel]

Join the police, army or forestry rangers. The number of people you see tooled up around here at night is pretty scary in the respect that nothing kicks off.

Even though none of the above have the authority to carry (unless in the couse of their duty) nobody will say anything.

I heard it from the police here themselves that even policemen themselves can not carry out of their respective province. But if they were to bring it out of province and got stopped by a roadblock. It would depend on the discretion of the official in charge. How strict they are and so on.. How well their superiors is on terms with the officer manning the roadblock. etc

BUT if THEY were to use it to shoot someone on outside their juristic area. They would have to appear before court and explain to the judge why they carry it out of their area. That is wrong police conduct & is against the law here.

[Holysteel]

So back to the original topic. Who can be granted a all wide province license to carry here in Thailand? The Secret Service bodyguards team that protects the head of state here surely have one i assume ?

The supreme judge is another individual that could be granted an all out province. Who else ? What about the elites of Thailand such as the owner of Redbull who has a few billions USD on his bank account.

How about the average somchai, sompong & sombat who have a few millions baht in his account & run a company? Can they possible stand a chance to apply one ?

Please share.

[SimonD]

The OP appears to have a morbid fascination with guns, police and scenarios involving violence, dating back to his very first post:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/414320-consequence-for-self-defense-resulting-in-murder-here-in-thailand/

Interesting posting history.

[Holysteel]

The OP appears to have a morbid fascination with guns, police and scenarios involving violence, dating back to his very first post:

http://www.thaivisa....re-in-thailand/

Interesting posting history.

I am just curious to stuffs pertaining to this. It is not that i liked them or have a hard on fascination to them. What i have posted is nothing out of the special. Alot of stuffs that i have posted here, comes from overhearing some bragging Thais locals. They boast that they can do this they can do that. To which i dun believe a single word they said. Hence my posts here to TV to further clarify it.

If you wanted me to start post like snowballs in thailand with the missus or lost of passport to which like u have did. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/529859-snowballs-in-thailand/page__p__5016915#entry5016915 It is not my kind of cake. I dun give a hoot on chocolate muffins or whether there is butterflies in the Kanchanaburi hills...That is not me. U can go ask santa claus for all i care..If you dislike threads such as mine. Dun even bother reading it. Why are you here in the first place ?

[submaniac]

There was a recent news discussion on it that may give you some answers.

http://www.thaivisa....__hl__ firearms

If you can sift out the information from the fighting.

The fighting on Thaivisa is the fun part.

As to the OP'S question, from what I know (and I have been researching this quite a bit) the national permit to carry would be very difficult to get. It's a step up from what we were talking about in the mentioned thread. It's one thing to get a permit to PURCHASE a firearm, but it is quite a different thing to get a permit to carry one in public. The firearms that are purchased with permission are to remain at the house, with the exception of transporting it to the firing range. You'd either have to have a very good reason (like gem dealer) or know someone important, probably both.

[PingManDan]

I totally believe in owning a handgun, so I am showing you mine. I bought it legally, here in Thailand, after going through the proper channels to do so. If and only a extensive back ground check is done here and abroad, then what the H_ell is the big deal. The only time a gun is used improperly, is in the hands of a crime

[David48]

I totally believe in owning a handgun, so I am showing you mine. I bought it legally, here in Thailand, after going through the proper channels to do so. If and only a extensive back ground check is done here and abroad, then what the H_ell is the big deal. The only time a gun is used improperly, is in the hands of a crime

PingManDan, I'm sure you are sane sensible bloke I'd enjoy having a beer with, but guns are a wrong answer .. what ever side of the sights you are on.

Unfortunately there are a part of Society.

As above ... the big deal is that more guns (legal or otherwise) is also not an answer.

May I ask if you carry the weapon out of the house (with the exception of to the firing range)?

[BigJohnnyBKK]

So back to the original topic. Who can be granted a all wide province license to carry here in Thailand? The Secret Service bodyguards team that protects the head of state here surely have one i assume ?

The supreme judge is another individual that could be granted an all out province. Who else ? What about the elites of Thailand such as the owner of Redbull who has a few billions USD on his bank account.

How about the average somchai, sompong & sombat who have a few millions baht in his account & run a company? Can they possible stand a chance to apply one ?

Please share.

Normal people impossible.

The Secret Service-type details protecting heads of state I'm sure are given carte blanche, most likely here without any paperwork involved whatsoever.

Same with anyone truly connected, they just wouldn't have to bother, they or their henchmen.

Those in between very difficult, above threads posted as much as I know.

[Kwasaki]

So back to the original topic. Who can be granted a all wide province license to carry here in Thailand? The Secret Service bodyguards team that protects the head of state here surely have one i assume ?

The supreme judge is another individual that could be granted an all out province. Who else ? What about the elites of Thailand such as the owner of Redbull who has a few billions USD on his bank account.

How about the average somchai, sompong & sombat who have a few millions baht in his account & run a company? Can they possible stand a chance to apply one ?

Please share.

Remembered reading this post at first the other day and yesterday a friend from the police called around, he work in different provinces from time to time, I asked him the question.

He being a policeman is allowed to carry his weapons with him anywhere in Thailand to assist fellow police in any situation, he is on 24 hour call out to incidents or assist at an army Check point.

They have to buy the weapons themselves or acquire them by being handed down from family.

I ask him if I could get a shotgun he said no problem he has 4 and he will give me one of them.

What about the permit I said, no problem he said I get that with you.

Like many things in Thailand you hear many ways on how to do this & that & the other, many contradictions and many assertive claims but me I always find the old saying comes into play wherever you go ' It's not what you know, it's who you know.

Still I want to see the permit first before taking the shotgun.

[Holysteel]

Kwasaki,

I believe your police friend can only assist you in a home permit license, even with that "assistance" you have to have the correct paperwork , assets & background check in order. He cant do nothing for you. Trust me on this. There is more than one department to get approval from. The Royal Thai Police is not the only "one stop all center" to get approval from. There is still the Ministry of Interior to seek approval from. The DOPA aka Department of Provincial Administration. The Governor of your respective provinces. The BIBs doest not call the shots. Even though they like to act like one. Still, it doest hurt to have friends in such dept. But they cant do magic for you. Trust me on this.

Alot of expats here who have some friends in the BIBs dept. Think they are 'untouchable" and have a false sense of 'proudness" in them..They think they are better than the average citizen, They think they are mafia...and can do whatever they like...I say tell me about it my friend...The moment once your get into a major trouble that reached the Thai Courts juristic level. I bet a million bucks that your so called police friend would run a 100km faster than a speeding bullet AWAY from you, then to sit down and discuss to help u out.

A carry license is a total different thing. A all out province license to carry is even a totally unspoken thing in the upper class Thai society. With the exception of the elites Thais. This i have no say, as i have no knowledge in this.

[evadgib]

I totally believe in owning a handgun, so I am showing you mine. I bought it legally, here in Thailand, after going through the proper channels to do so. If and only a extensive back ground check is done here and abroad, then what the H_ell is the big deal. The only time a gun is used improperly, is in the hands of a crime

If that's the serial number just above the trigger & this is your gun rather than an archive S&W photograph you may like to google the phrase "pers sec".

[Kwasaki]

Kwasaki,

I believe your police friend can only assist you in a home permit license, even with that "assistance" you have to have the correct paperwork , assets & background check in order. He cant do nothing for you. Trust me on this. There is more than one department to get approval from. The Royal Thai Police is not the only "one stop all center" to get approval from. There is still the Ministry of Interior to seek approval from. The DOPA aka Department of Provincial Administration. The Governor of your respective provinces. The BIBs doest not call the shots. Even though they like to act like one. Still, it doest hurt to have friends in such dept. But they cant do magic for you. Trust me on this.

Alot of expats here who have some friends in the BIBs dept. Think they are 'untouchable" and have a false sense of 'proudness" in them..They think they are better than the average citizen, They think they are mafia...and can do whatever they like...I say tell me about it my friend...The moment once your get into a major trouble that reached the Thai Courts juristic level. I bet a million bucks that your so called police friend would run a 100km faster than a speeding bullet AWAY from you, then to sit down and discuss to help u out.

A carry license is a total different thing. A all out province license to carry is even a totally unspoken thing in the upper class Thai society. With the exception of the elites Thais. This i have no say, as i have no knowledge in this.

Whats the real scenario ???? As you say, well your probably right but I wouldn't be taking the gun anywhere unless I was going to a range, and they say in gunshops I would be able to get a gun but it's easier to get a license in the wifes name, there was no mention of having to have great assets just a letter from the local police station and background check.

By the way I don't trust anyone except the Mrs.

Like you say many expats here get to know a policeman and maybe think the way you explain, I don't know any plockers like that and wouldn't want to.

Here in a village you get to know police anyway, some I know are really only acquaintances to have a beer with, they are local road police some are highway police, the one I speak of as a friend is a Lieutenant Colonel and no he hasn't help me out, I help him out.

He has said his boss and friend is the Police General in Bangkok but I'm as yet to meet him, all I know is he does carry guns everywhere because he goes everywhere in his police job position and I don't think it has anything to do with being an exception or as in an elite Thai.

I think you have your answers, if you have a gun license you can carry a gun anywhere in Thailand.

http://www.thailand-th.net/thailand_gun_laws.html

[siamjimi]

I totally believe in owning a handgun, so I am showing you mine. I bought it legally, here in Thailand, after going through the proper channels to do so. If and only a extensive back ground check is done here and abroad, then what the H_ell is the big deal. The only time a gun is used improperly, is in the hands of a crime

PingManDan, I'm sure you are sane sensible bloke I'd enjoy having a beer with, but guns are a wrong answer .. what ever side of the sights you are on.

Unfortunately there are a part of Society.

As above ... the big deal is that more guns (legal or otherwise) is also not an answer.

May I ask if you carry the weapon out of the house (with the exception of to the firing range)?

If you fimnd yourself in a situation or confrontation that another person has a gun and you don't - the answer becomes quite clear - if you had a gun you could defend yourself - without a gun your are not only defenseless but hopeless to deter the other persons advances to you with a gun

Nearly any one person brandishing a gun will stop their agression or advance no further knowing you have a gun as well - a warning shot usually does the trick

I have had guns displayed 2 times for road rage and 2 other times as well for very unimportant events over the last 8 years in Thailand - seems Thais love to show off their guns and at times as we all read in the news - use them for little or no reason at all.

If I had my preference I would have a gun as well - and I do not like guns at all

seems useless to know statistically by number that another person can and will assault you with a gun - and that you yourself have the ability to have a gun to defend oneself and chooses not to

[Holysteel]

Like you say many expats here get to know a policeman and maybe think the way you explain, I don't know any plockers like that and wouldn't want to

Hi Kwasaki,

You can find alot of these plockers in Phuket Island & Pattaya city. The two Ps of Land of Smiles

[Kwasaki]

1. If you fimnd yourself in a situation or confrontation that another person has a gun and you don't - the answer becomes quite clear - if you had a gun you could defend yourself - without a gun your are not only defenseless but hopeless to deter the other persons advances to you with a gun

2. Nearly any one person brandishing a gun will stop their agression or advance no further knowing you have a gun as well - a warning shot usually does the trick

3. I have had guns displayed 2 times for road rage and 2 other times as well for very unimportant events over the last 8 years in Thailand - seems Thais love to show off their guns and at times as we all read in the news - use them for little or no reason at all.

4. If I had my preference I would have a gun as well - and I do not like guns at all

5. seems useless to know statistically by number that another person can and will assault you with a gun - and that you yourself have the ability to have a gun to defend oneself and chooses not to

1. You would have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time or unlucky or a bit daft to get yourself into a position where you find yourself facing someone with a gun.

2. A warning shot would more than often escalate the situation IMO.

3. Many farangies are told never get involved in road rage getting involved with someone who can think not much better than a child is asking for it.

4. If you do not like guns then better not to own one, you have to like them to respect and own them.

5. IMO that is totally the wrong reason for owning a gun.

Be careful out there in Dodge City.

[Kwasaki]

Like you say many expats here get to know a policeman and maybe think the way you explain, I don't know any plockers like that and wouldn't want to

Hi Kwasaki,

You can find alot of these plockers in Phuket Island & Pattaya city. The two Ps of Land of Smiles

Yeah !! spell check useless sometimes I meant ( Plonkers ) you could add Bangkok and Chiang Mai to that too.

[eaglelex]

im wondering the gun laws as well. Law enforcement in the US currently and I would prefer to have a gun if we move to LOS or any where for that matter. I would think i could pass any background they needed.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

im wondering the gun laws as well. Law enforcement in the US currently and I would prefer to have a gun if we move to LOS or any where for that matter. I would think i could pass any background they needed.

Not a problem between home and the practice range.

Apparently an issue if you want to carry otherwise, especially outside your home province.

If it's that important to you, become a gem dealer, might be a second career there anyway, I've met a few farang doing that, very footloose and fancy free lifestyle and apparently can be quite profitable even on a small scale.

[Holysteel]

im wondering the gun laws as well. Law enforcement in the US currently and I would prefer to have a gun if we move to LOS or any where for that matter. I would think i could pass any background they needed.

Not a problem between home and the practice range.

Apparently an issue if you want to carry otherwise, especially outside your home province.

If it's that important to you, become a gem dealer, might be a second career there anyway, I've met a few farang doing that, very footloose and fancy free lifestyle and apparently can be quite profitable even on a small scale.

Big Johnny,

So being a gem dealer could get an individual an all out province license to carry ? Is it right? If yes. Then what kind of gem you are referring to? Is it ruby, sapphire, cheap stuffs like zircon, etc or the high value stuffs like diamonds... Please advise

[Time Traveller]

I have to clarify abit further on this. Im not talking about province license to carry. But the whole of Thailand. Anyone know anything about this

Step 1: Go and ask at the police station.

[Holysteel]

I have to clarify abit further on this. Im not talking about province license to carry. But the whole of Thailand. Anyone know anything about this

Step 1: Go and ask at the police station.

Oh really..?? The police aint know no shit. They are not law makers. Its the Interior of Ministry that have this unpublished information.