90 Day Reporting - Comments And Experiences

[uptheos]

It's more fun than going to the zoo.

I can agree with the fun part, (people watching). Not sure about the zoo part though.

Watch those the other side of the counter and the zoo part comes into play.

(I mean the people the officers deal with of course)

Edited July 24, 2012 by uptheos

[hellodolly]

Now that is what I call the sensible thing to do if one does not want to risk the 5,000 baht fine or is so busy in their retirement they can not spare two hours every 90 days. Or the time to mail it.

I was wondering if they could deport a person if they wanted to over the not reporting every 90 days. particular if it was a regular habit.

It is not about sparing 2 hours every 90 days. The report should only be made if you move - in a normal country. The paper usuage for all the reports farangs have made over the years has to have killed an entire forest.

They will not deport you for missing it, not do I know anyone that has ever been fined 5000 baht. They really do not care if you miss it as long as you pay the 2000 baht fine or better for them 1000 baht no receipt.

I have never been asked for my passport on the street in all these years nor do I know anyone that has. I hardly know anyone that carries their passport. I used toi make a color copy of mine and my visa and kept that in the car. I stopped doing that years ago. Besides some Thai road cop does not have a clue what a 90 report is or if a paper shoudl be in your passport. .

I have been here for decades and know how the game is played. I am not living in Thailand so I can scurry around worrying about some 90 report. I am here to live life.

Well I actually agree with what you say. I how ever can not afford to be scurrying around so much I would have to worry about making 90 day reports. From the number of posts some of your supporters post I see they are in the same boat as me lots of time on their hands.

I carry a photocopy of my passport with the visa on it. It works in the Bank and gets me cheaper costs for movie tickets. As for the amount of paper used being enough to cut down a Forrest. I disagree It is enough to cut down two forests. I am including the paper work for the yearly renewal in that figure. I remember one year when I filed for my yearly renewal He took some of the papers into the back room they had at the time for final approval. The rest of them he opened a file drawer that was almost over flowing with paper and threw it on top of the pile.

That was mid day. I can only imagine the amount of time it would take to properly file them at the end of the day. And I believe their is two people doing the job of interviewing.

I know the rules for lots of games but I don't play them because I am to old. But the ones I do play I prefer to play by the rules. Life is not a game I play to beat the rules. I find that to be useless for me.

[Mapguy]

Now that is what I call the sensible thing to do if one does not want to risk the 5,000 baht fine or is so busy in their retirement they can not spare two hours every 90 days. Or the time to mail it.

I was wondering if they could deport a person if they wanted to over the not reporting every 90 days. particular if it was a regular habit.

It is not about sparing 2 hours every 90 days. The report should only be made if you move - in a normal country. The paper usuage for all the reports farangs have made over the years has to have killed an entire forest.

They will not deport you for missing it, not do I know anyone that has ever been fined 5000 baht. They really do not care if you miss it as long as you pay the 2000 baht fine or better for them 1000 baht no receipt.

I have never been asked for my passport on the street in all these years nor do I know anyone that has. I hardly know anyone that carries their passport. I used toi make a color copy of mine and my visa and kept that in the car. I stopped doing that years ago. Besides some Thai road cop does not have a clue what a 90 report is or if a paper shoudl be in your passport. .

I have been here for decades and know how the game is played. I am not living in Thailand so I can scurry around worrying about some 90 report. I am here to live life.

Well I actually agree with what you say. I how ever can not afford to be scurrying around so much I would have to worry about making 90 day reports. From the number of posts some of your supporters post I see they are in the same boat as me lots of time on their hands.

I carry a photocopy of my passport with the visa on it. It works in the Bank and gets me cheaper costs for movie tickets. As for the amount of paper used being enough to cut down a Forrest. I disagree It is enough to cut down two forests. I am including the paper work for the yearly renewal in that figure. I remember one year when I filed for my yearly renewal He took some of the papers into the back room they had at the time for final approval. The rest of them he opened a file drawer that was almost over flowing with paper and threw it on top of the pile.

That was mid day. I can only imagine the amount of time it would take to properly file them at the end of the day. And I believe their is two people doing the job of interviewing.

I know the rules for lots of games but I don't play them because I am to old. But the ones I do play I prefer to play by the rules. Life is not a game I play to beat the rules. I find that to be useless for me.

"Life is not a game I play to beat the rules."

Good point and worth sharing.

[CMNightRider]

I completed my 90 day report yesterday. It took 30 minutes which is acceptable. The only benefit I see the 90 day report doing, is it keeps the copy people busy, and provides them with a steady stream of baht during the week. It appears the immigration officers already have plenty of work. I sure wish we had a five or ten year retirement visa without the 90 day nonsense.

[Thailand]

I completed my 90 day report yesterday. It took 30 minutes which is acceptable. The only benefit I see the 90 day report doing, is it keeps the copy people busy, and provides them with a steady stream of baht during the week. It appears the immigration officers already have plenty of work. I sure wish we had a five or ten year retirement visa without the 90 day nonsense.

I believe it's a major priority for the government in the coming months.

Did 90 days for 2 persons 2 weeks ago in and out in less than 5 minutes.

[koosdeboer]

Now that is what I call the sensible thing to do if one does not want to risk the 5,000 baht fine or is so busy in their retirement they can not spare two hours every 90 days. Or the time to mail it.

I was wondering if they could deport a person if they wanted to over the not reporting every 90 days. particular if it was a regular habit.

It is not about sparing 2 hours every 90 days. The report should only be made if you move - in a normal country. The paper usuage for all the reports farangs have made over the years has to have killed an entire forest.

6

They will not deport you for missing it, not do I know anyone that has ever been fined 5000 baht. They really do not care if you miss it as long as you pay the 2000 baht fine or better for them 1000 baht no receipt.

I have never been asked for my passport on the street in all these years nor do I know anyone that has. I hardly know anyone that carries their passport. I used toi make a color copy of mine and my visa and kept that in the car. I stopped doing that years ago. Besides some Thai road cop does not have a clue what a 90 report is or if a paper shoudl be in your passport. .

I have been here for decades and know how the game is played. I am not living in Thailand so I can scurry around worrying about some 90 report. I am here to live life.

Well I actually agree with what you say. I how ever can not afford to be scurrying around so much I would have to worry about making 90 day reports. From the number of posts some of your supporters post I see they are in the same boat as me lots of time on their hands.

I carry a photocopy of my passport with the visa on it. It works in the Bank and gets me cheaper costs for movie tickets. As for the amount of paper used being enough to cut down a Forrest. I disagree It is enough to cut down two forests. I am including the paper work for the yearly renewal in that figure. I remember one year when I filed for my yearly renewal He took some of the papers into the back room they had at the time for final approval. The rest of them he opened a file drawer that was almost over flowing with paper and threw it on top of the pile.

That was mid day. I can only imagine the amount of time it would take to properly file them at the end of the day. And I believe their is two people doing the job of interviewing.

I know the rules for lots of games but I don't play them because I am to old. But the ones I do play I prefer to play by the rules. Life is not a game I play to beat the rules. I find that to be useless for me.

If you have a Thai driver's license, you can use it as an id. It has your passport number on it.

[hellodolly]

Now that is what I call the sensible thing to do if one does not want to risk the 5,000 baht fine or is so busy in their retirement they can not spare two hours every 90 days. Or the time to mail it.

I was wondering if they could deport a person if they wanted to over the not reporting every 90 days. particular if it was a regular habit.

It is not about sparing 2 hours every 90 days. The report should only be made if you move - in a normal country. The paper usuage for all the reports farangs have made over the years has to have killed an entire forest.

6

They will not deport you for missing it, not do I know anyone that has ever been fined 5000 baht. They really do not care if you miss it as long as you pay the 2000 baht fine or better for them 1000 baht no receipt.

I have never been asked for my passport on the street in all these years nor do I know anyone that has. I hardly know anyone that carries their passport. I used toi make a color copy of mine and my visa and kept that in the car. I stopped doing that years ago. Besides some Thai road cop does not have a clue what a 90 report is or if a paper shoudl be in your passport. .

I have been here for decades and know how the game is played. I am not living in Thailand so I can scurry around worrying about some 90 report. I am here to live life.

Well I actually agree with what you say. I how ever can not afford to be scurrying around so much I would have to worry about making 90 day reports. From the number of posts some of your supporters post I see they are in the same boat as me lots of time on their hands.

I carry a photocopy of my passport with the visa on it. It works in the Bank and gets me cheaper costs for movie tickets. As for the amount of paper used being enough to cut down a Forrest. I disagree It is enough to cut down two forests. I am including the paper work for the yearly renewal in that figure. I remember one year when I filed for my yearly renewal He took some of the papers into the back room they had at the time for final approval. The rest of them he opened a file drawer that was almost over flowing with paper and threw it on top of the pile.

That was mid day. I can only imagine the amount of time it would take to properly file them at the end of the day. And I believe their is two people doing the job of interviewing.

I know the rules for lots of games but I don't play them because I am to old. But the ones I do play I prefer to play by the rules. Life is not a game I play to beat the rules. I find that to be useless for me.

If you have a Thai driver's license, you can use it as an id. It has your passport number on it.

And if you don't have a Thai drivers license?

[uptheos]

Another TV member advised me to do the following.

Take your passport to the copy place in KSK basement.

Make a colour copy of the front page and your current visa on the back.

They then reduce it to wallet size and laminate it, so you just carry it in your wallet.

I've used it a few times, no one has ever queried it and it looks so official.

The last one I had done was 40 Baht.

[Semper]

And if you don't have a Thai drivers license?

Well, the obvious answer to this would be, get one. It's only 200 Baht or something like that.

[hellodolly]

And if you don't have a Thai drivers license?

Well, the obvious answer to this would be, get one. It's only 200 Baht or something like that.

The obvious answer s why I don't drive and the copy of my passport works fine. And I have a pass port all ready.

[CMNightRider]

Now that is what I call the sensible thing to do if one does not want to risk the 5,000 baht fine or is so busy in their retirement they can not spare two hours every 90 days. Or the time to mail it.

I was wondering if they could deport a person if they wanted to over the not reporting every 90 days. particular if it was a regular habit.

It is not about sparing 2 hours every 90 days. The report should only be made if you move - in a normal country. The paper usuage for all the reports farangs have made over the years has to have killed an entire forest.

They will not deport you for missing it, not do I know anyone that has ever been fined 5000 baht. They really do not care if you miss it as long as you pay the 2000 baht fine or better for them 1000 baht no receipt.

I have never been asked for my passport on the street in all these years nor do I know anyone that has. I hardly know anyone that carries their passport. I used toi make a color copy of mine and my visa and kept that in the car. I stopped doing that years ago. Besides some Thai road cop does not have a clue what a 90 report is or if a paper shoudl be in your passport. .

I have been here for decades and know how the game is played. I am not living in Thailand so I can scurry around worrying about some 90 report. I am here to live life.

Can't you take out a citizenship papers and live the rest of your life here under the rules or are you here because you can break rules and just pay your way out.

Be interested in your definition of normal country. My money says you are going to name some western country. Probably from North America or Europe. Do they let you break the rules there and just pay a bribe.

I for one am glad it is not a normal country I do enjoy the differences. And never once in the 6 years I have been here have I been hurt making the 90 day report.

In the states people just wade across the Rio Grande, and get to work, go on welfare, and receive free medical. Once they get across the river they don't even have to report to anyone, and the police can't ask them if they came in illegally. It does hurt me to report to Immigration every 90 days, because I know it doesn't make any sense to have this requirement. I look forward to the day the Thai government follows Malaysia, and issues ten year retirement visas. I sure hope it isn't just wishful thinking.

[Semper]

Now that is what I call the sensible thing to do if one does not want to risk the 5,000 baht fine or is so busy in their retirement they can not spare two hours every 90 days. Or the time to mail it.

I was wondering if they could deport a person if they wanted to over the not reporting every 90 days. particular if it was a regular habit.

It is not about sparing 2 hours every 90 days. The report should only be made if you move - in a normal country. The paper usuage for all the reports farangs have made over the years has to have killed an entire forest.

They will not deport you for missing it, not do I know anyone that has ever been fined 5000 baht. They really do not care if you miss it as long as you pay the 2000 baht fine or better for them 1000 baht no receipt.

I have never been asked for my passport on the street in all these years nor do I know anyone that has. I hardly know anyone that carries their passport. I used toi make a color copy of mine and my visa and kept that in the car. I stopped doing that years ago. Besides some Thai road cop does not have a clue what a 90 report is or if a paper shoudl be in your passport. .

I have been here for decades and know how the game is played. I am not living in Thailand so I can scurry around worrying about some 90 report. I am here to live life.

Can't you take out a citizenship papers and live the rest of your life here under the rules or are you here because you can break rules and just pay your way out.

Be interested in your definition of normal country. My money says you are going to name some western country. Probably from North America or Europe. Do they let you break the rules there and just pay a bribe.

I for one am glad it is not a normal country I do enjoy the differences. And never once in the 6 years I have been here have I been hurt making the 90 day report.

In the states people just wade across the Rio Grande, and get to work, go on welfare, and receive free medical. Once they get across the river they don't even have to report to anyone, and the police can't ask them if they came in illegally. It does hurt me to report to Immigration every 90 days, because I know it doesn't make any sense to have this requirement. I look forward to the day the Thai government follows Malaysia, and issues ten year retirement visas. I sure hope it isn't just wishful thinking.

Ever considered returning?

[CMNightRider]

Ever considered returning? No, I haven't. Have you ever been admitted to the Ting Tong Hospital?

Edited July 27, 2012 by CMNightRider

[dingdongrb]

I have been 90 day reporting at CM Immigration now for nearly 5 years. The earlier days were hectic due to no organization to the queues. These days I find that if you go in immediately after lunch (1pm) getting the queue number and being processed usually takes less than 30 mins. Most of the time it's less than 15.... Never had to wait long. I've yet to try the mail in reporting as I want to ensure it gets done and it's nice to get out of the house at times. BTW, if you have a re-entry permit I suggest you make a copy of that page too as at times it has been requested but as usual, other times it hasn't. I just make a copy to be safe and especially these days has anyone noticed the extremely long lines for copying out back? I think Immigration is making a small fortune off of that racket.

[mesquite]

I have been 90 day reporting at CM Immigration now for nearly 5 years. The earlier days were hectic due to no organization to the queues. These days I find that if you go in immediately after lunch (1pm) getting the queue number and being processed usually takes less than 30 mins. Most of the time it's less than 15.... Never had to wait long. I've yet to try the mail in reporting as I want to ensure it gets done and it's nice to get out of the house at times. BTW, if you have a re-entry permit I suggest you make a copy of that page too as at times it has been requested but as usual, other times it hasn't. I just make a copy to be safe and especially these days has anyone noticed the extremely long lines for copying out back? I think Immigration is making a small fortune off of that racket.

Thanks for getting us back on topic.

[softgeorge]

1. to have the blank 90 day reporting form ready to fill out and print is extremely helpful, thank you.

2. Didn´t mail it, went in person, told the officer, next time would mail it in.

3. No idea, if his comment had ulterior motives but he discouraged it with the argument that too much paper was floating around, risk of loss

So can you actually mail your documents? I have to report on Monday 20/8/12 and thought you had to go in person at least that was what I was told at the Chiangmai office.

[mcgriffith]

I just got back today my umpteenth TM47 (90 day address reporting) stub via mail.

Mailed it last week Thursday.

It was probably back yesterday Tuesday but I was too lazy to check my apt bldg reception mail until today Wednesday.

Technically speaking, the mail option is only for folks in CM province living in the boonies.

If you are living in Muang, and are able bodied, you need to report front and center in full uniform, with a crisp and snappy salute.

For more info on this option, do a search on this topic of 90 day report by mail- it has been covered extensively.

[ForumUsername]

I've just started a separate thread about this, but thought I would 'bump' this thread as well.

Can anyone tell the ideal time to go to get their next 90 days (I have an education visa). I've been told to go for 5:30am, but the experiences in this thread seem to be very different, and almost as if I can go at 10 / 11.

[mesquite]

I just got back today my umpteenth TM47 (90 day address reporting) stub via mail.

Mailed it last week Thursday.

It was probably back yesterday Tuesday but I was too lazy to check my apt bldg reception mail until today Wednesday.

Technically speaking, the mail option is only for folks in CM province living in the boonies.

If you are living in Muang, and are able bodied, you need to report front and center in full uniform, with a crisp and snappy salute.

For more info on this option, do a search on this topic of 90 day report by mail- it has been covered extensively.

Technically speaking where did you get the living in the boonies requirement? That's the first I've ever heard of that.

[hml367]

I just got back today my umpteenth TM47 (90 day address reporting) stub via mail.

Mailed it last week Thursday.

It was probably back yesterday Tuesday but I was too lazy to check my apt bldg reception mail until today Wednesday.

Technically speaking, the mail option is only for folks in CM province living in the boonies.

If you are living in Muang, and are able bodied, you need to report front and center in full uniform, with a crisp and snappy salute.

For more info on this option, do a search on this topic of 90 day report by mail- it has been covered extensively.

Technically speaking where did you get the living in the boonies requirement? That's the first I've ever heard of that.

I heard of it.... from the counter at Immigration in Chiang Mai.

MSPain

[mcgriffith]

I just got back today my umpteenth TM47 (90 day address reporting) stub via mail.

Mailed it last week Thursday.

It was probably back yesterday Tuesday but I was too lazy to check my apt bldg reception mail until today Wednesday.

Technically speaking, the mail option is only for folks in CM province living in the boonies.

If you are living in Muang, and are able bodied, you need to report front and center in full uniform, with a crisp and snappy salute.

For more info on this option, do a search on this topic of 90 day report by mail- it has been covered extensively.

Technically speaking where did you get the living in the boonies requirement? That's the first I've ever heard of that.

Last year, when I was doing my retirement extension, the officer leafed through my passport, and with an "Ah-ha!" look on her face, asked "Where is your TM 47?".

I explained that I had mailed in the form the week prior, and pulled out the Thai Post registered mail receipt.

She turned around and asked the intern at the next desk (who handles 90 day address reporting by mail) to look me up.

He confirmed that it had been received the prior week, and had been mailed back to me a day or so before. I hadn't received it back yet when I went in for my extension renewal.

I then was asked why I had mailed it, as she said the mail option should only be used by those who live outside Muang (i.e.- the boonies).

I politely explained that I wasn't feeling well that week, and didn't want to infect everyone at CM Imm with my flu.....

She arched her eyebrows at me, and didn't say anything.

It was obvious to me that Imm wants everyone who is not crippled or infirm, who lives in the city proper, to show up and go through the whole address reporting charade.

Also, when I first got the small info leaflet a couple of years ago (the one that has been posted here on various threads) that details the mail in procedure, the officer who gave it to me made a point of saying that it was only for those who live outside of Chiang Mai the city.

[Semper]

I politely explained that I wasn't feeling well that week, and didn't want to infect everyone at CM Imm with my flu..

Sneaky.

[Thailand]

I just got back today my umpteenth TM47 (90 day address reporting) stub via mail.

Mailed it last week Thursday.

It was probably back yesterday Tuesday but I was too lazy to check my apt bldg reception mail until today Wednesday.

Technically speaking, the mail option is only for folks in CM province living in the boonies.

If you are living in Muang, and are able bodied, you need to report front and center in full uniform, with a crisp and snappy salute.

For more info on this option, do a search on this topic of 90 day report by mail- it has been covered extensively.

Technically speaking where did you get the living in the boonies requirement? That's the first I've ever heard of that.

Last year, when I was doing my retirement extension, the officer leafed through my passport, and with an "Ah-ha!" look on her face, asked "Where is your TM 47?".

I explained that I had mailed in the form the week prior, and pulled out the Thai Post registered mail receipt.

She turned around and asked the intern at the next desk (who handles 90 day address reporting by mail) to look me up.

He confirmed that it had been received the prior week, and had been mailed back to me a day or so before. I hadn't received it back yet when I went in for my extension renewal.

I then was asked why I had mailed it, as she said the mail option should only be used by those who live outside Muang (i.e.- the boonies).

I politely explained that I wasn't feeling well that week, and didn't want to infect everyone at CM Imm with my flu.....

She arched her eyebrows at me, and didn't say anything.

It was obvious to me that Imm wants everyone who is not crippled or infirm, who lives in the city proper, to show up and go through the whole address reporting charade.

Also, when I first got the small info leaflet a couple of years ago (the one that has been posted here on various threads) that details the mail in procedure, the officer who gave it to me made a point of saying that it was only for those who live outside of Chiang Mai the city.

But you do not have to go in person.Anybody can do it for you.

[mcgriffith]

But you do not have to go in person.Anybody can do it for you.

You're quite correct.

I should have added: "...and don't have a housekeeper, Thai wife/gf, lawyer or visa broker to process for you".

[Thailand]

But you do not have to go in person.Anybody can do it for you.

You're quite correct.

I should have added: "...and don't have a housekeeper, Thai wife/gf, lawyer or visa broker to process for you".

You stand softly admonished.

[CMX]

Some of our concerns, to me, indicate that we're not really ready to live happily in a foreign culture. To the degree that we have new ideas for Thais to implement, I suppose that we don't have traction and are spinning our wheels. To the degree that we complain to ourselves or celebrate our own frustration, we're making ourselves unhappy. (No, I'm not a California anything.)

What I try to do is to adapt by finding workable solutions and alternative ways of coping. (Not unlike aging, in my experience; a lot of stuff in life is like a hard rock.)

I figure to follow the directions given in the original Tywais post (with EMS paid for both ways). It's no problem at all, as I have a copier and good luck at my (nearby) official post office. Problem solved, we hope. Worries over. Fretting ended.

Alternatively, I like to go myself to immigration's (sort of) Big House sometimes with everything ready. I take something to read and occasionally jolly up a likely looking woman. To date, I've not been much jollied in return, so that's why I might try the postal solution.

Edited August 22, 2012 by CMX

[gennisis]

He asked "why didn't I send the return registered?" O.K. fair enough, lesson learned. I'll always send the return registered from now on.

Send the returns registered people!

I had my staff do it and it worked, but I think that they just included a self-addressed stamped envelope. What is "returns registered"? After doing it by mail, I never want to waste my time doing a 90 day report at immigration again.

I can only report that for the last 3 90 day reports I've been using the postal option,,,sent and return by Registered post. Never been more than 8 days before it has been returned.. and by the internet booking for my annual exrtension,it means I visit Immigration for 1 hour each year.

...dont realy understand the people who complain about the over crowding in Chiang mai Immigration,if more used the postal and internet options then only 'newbies. would be attending. I wouid also say that the Postal Service in my part of CM is excellent....maybe not so hot in other areas though.

[how241]

Fast and easy in Jomtien- never had any problems. Nice staff too.

[zippydedodah]

went into CM office today at 1pm sharp....got a queue number and was out with my 90 day extension 20 minutes later... no muss no fuss.

although, the officer did ask me my address and full name (one name at a time, first, middle, last,)... and waited for me to repeat each word... i figure he just wanted to practice his english?!?!

Mr. Zippy De Dodah ain't that hard to say 555555

[Joop50]

Never went on monday before but I gave it a try and arrived just before 1pm, long line to get a queue number (lots of Birmese) but only 5 numbers in front of me for the 90 days report, was out in 20 minutes indeed. The officer only asked me to say my first name. About 25 minutes faster as last time on a midweek day when I was there after 2pm. Thanks to mr Z. de Dodah.