metisdead Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 A post of rather hyperbolic accusations has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistymiles Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Has anyone heard her story? Girls don't usually run around claiming rape. From the looks of her she will get plenty of action in jail. Thai's have a funny way of flipping the truth. Once, I had a gun pulled on me, I though it on the roof. Then contacted the Tourist Police. They told me everyone in the bar claimed I stole my friends credit card and they just where trying to get it back. Of coarse no sign of the gun. The police said if I made a report I could go to jail for false accusations. I was out numbered, so I quietly went on about my business. Has anyone heard this girls story, or just reacted to the headline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSabai Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Is there any other place in the world where there are more crazy foreigners per square meter than Thailand? Australia apparently... Edited June 16, 2012 by iSabai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screws Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 well done to thai police for doing this.shame the western world do not do the same.she lied got other people in trouble.throw the book at her and let her enjoy the bangkok hilton for a few years to think about what she done Yesserno. x 3 for three guys lives ruined, & times three for wilful malicious & false. 90 years, she won't do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screws Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Well on the one hand its a fair punishment for filing false report, but on the other hand being Thailand and all, it may prevent other (perhaps genuine victims) women making reports Uh Uh. Fair punishment would be the same as the accused would receive. x 3 for punitive, wilful & malicious, x 3 for three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 What could have been the motive? It's not at all like a fraudulent insurance claim. I'm guessing she did it to get back at her estranged boyfriend ... to make him feel guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcrumpet Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Hey, here's the article, name, photo, and all. Just a dumb 21 year old bogan girl who thought she could get away with blaming "evil foreigners" http://www.smh.com.au/world/sydney-tourist-jailed-for-false-rape-claim-20120616-20gq7.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Blimey a woman in Thailand reporting rape............surprised they even bothered looking up from their desks when she came in to report it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinclapham Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 "Two senior officials from the Australian embassy in Bangkok flew to Phuket on Friday to be with her in court." Well I hope they also throw the book at her when she is back in Australia and redeem back substantial expenses... primarily tax payers money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycallahan Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 "...police say Bamford admitted making up the story because she was afraid her boyfriend would be angry about her staying out late." It's a tad extreme isn't it. What else is she willing to cry rape over? Can't have sex tonight honey, still hurting from today's rape. Sorry I didn't get any milk, was busy getting gang raped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HongKongPhooey Posted June 17, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2012 He did say this. refering to the word "TOURISTS" It does sort of imply that if a tourist reports a crime then they are lying. "It is sad that tourists have to lie about this sort of thing" Col Sermphan said. I think you'll find it "sort of" doesn't imply that if a tourist reports a crime then they are lying!! In no way shape or form is that statement saying that "all tourists are liars" and that "He won't take any tourists seriously" as the poster suggested. even if it was slightly grammatically incorrect, which I don't believe it is, then it would obviously be down to him being Thai and not speaking perfect English anyway. He has used the word "tourists" plural, but it is obvious he is referring to the girl in this particular incident or even her and others that may have done it before, but by no stretch of the imagination is he saying "all tourists" and that he won't believe any tourists ever again. I find it bemusing how on a thread where a backward chimpanzee could appreciate the person has done something heinous and unforgivable, that all some people are desperate to do is make anti Thai people/Thailand comments. I get it when they jump all over threads where Thai people are guilty of something, it makes their day I'm sure, but to be so desperate to slag Thais off that they twist a story about a Farang wrongly accusing people of rape to one about a Colonel saying that all tourists are liars and he will never believe any of them if they report a crime is desperate and pathetic to say the least 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 He did say this. refering to the word "TOURISTS" It does sort of imply that if a tourist reports a crime then they are lying. "It is sad that tourists have to lie about this sort of thing" Col Sermphan said. I think you'll find it "sort of" doesn't imply that if a tourist reports a crime then they are lying!! In no way shape or form is that statement saying that "all tourists are liars" and that "He won't take any tourists seriously" as the poster suggested. even if it was slightly grammatically incorrect, which I don't believe it is, then it would obviously be down to him being Thai and not speaking perfect English anyway. He has used the word "tourists" plural, but it is obvious he is referring to the girl in this particular incident or even her and others that may have done it before, but by no stretch of the imagination is he saying "all tourists" and that he won't believe any tourists ever again. I find it bemusing how on a thread where a backward chimpanzee could appreciate the person has done something heinous and unforgivable, that all some people are desperate to do is make anti Thai people/Thailand comments. I get it when they jump all over threads where Thai people are guilty of something, it makes their day I'm sure, but to be so desperate to slag Thais off that they twist a story about a Farang wrongly accusing people of rape to one about a Colonel saying that all tourists are liars and he will never believe any of them if they report a crime is desperate and pathetic to say the least He did not say it was sad that this girl had to lie, he said tourists which is those people visiting the country. I am not bashing Thais, just simply saying from what he said is that he implies that tourists are liars and not just this girl. That comment doesn't look good to tourists. The words are there. Again not attacking Thais just commenting on what I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 He did not say it was sad that this girl had to lie, he said tourists which is those people visiting the country. I am not bashing Thais, just simply saying from what he said is that he implies that tourists are liars and not just this girl. That comment doesn't look good to tourists. The words are there. Again not attacking Thais just commenting on what I read. I guess we all read things the way we want to read them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2unique Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 He did say this. refering to the word "TOURISTS" It does sort of imply that if a tourist reports a crime then they are lying. "It is sad that tourists have to lie about this sort of thing" Col Sermphan said. I think you'll find it "sort of" doesn't imply that if a tourist reports a crime then they are lying!! In no way shape or form is that statement saying that "all tourists are liars" and that "He won't take any tourists seriously" as the poster suggested. even if it was slightly grammatically incorrect, which I don't believe it is, then it would obviously be down to him being Thai and not speaking perfect English anyway. He has used the word "tourists" plural, but it is obvious he is referring to the girl in this particular incident or even her and others that may have done it before, but by no stretch of the imagination is he saying "all tourists" and that he won't believe any tourists ever again. I find it bemusing how on a thread where a backward chimpanzee could appreciate the person has done something heinous and unforgivable, that all some people are desperate to do is make anti Thai people/Thailand comments. I get it when they jump all over threads where Thai people are guilty of something, it makes their day I'm sure, but to be so desperate to slag Thais off that they twist a story about a Farang wrongly accusing people of rape to one about a Colonel saying that all tourists are liars and he will never believe any of them if they report a crime is desperate and pathetic to say the least He did not say it was sad that this girl had to lie, he said tourists which is those people visiting the country. I am not bashing Thais, just simply saying from what he said is that he implies that tourists are liars and not just this girl. That comment doesn't look good to tourists. The words are there. Again not attacking Thais just commenting on what I read. it still doesn't say "ALL" tourists nor does it necessarily imply "ALL" tourists - although I can see where one could tenuously or even pedantically shoehorn some sort of ambiguity in. if I said, its sad that Thai girls have to sell their bodies to support their family, would you assume I meant all Thai girls? I suppose there are some on here that might. perhaps he should have said: its sad when; instead but I think most people understood he doesn't suggest all tourists lie and it may be the way you're choosing to read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 15 days seems a very lenient sentence for such a serious false accusation against 3 Thai men. The 3 men did not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Accusing 3 men of rape is not a small deal. Should have been given 15 months and let the word spread back home. or an up to 2000THB fine? wouldnt that be generally just in line with the thai punishments?? (like hit 2 without driving licence and run, up to 4000THB fine?) (cheat/technically lie on police entry exam, no prosecution, no fine!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Nice to know that when a foreigner attempts fraud for whatever reason, they are vilified as much as Thais who do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongPhooey Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 if I said, its sad that Thai girls have to sell their bodies to support their family, would you assume I meant all Thai girls? I suppose there are some on here that might. Exactly right and perfect example of how using the plural doesn't mean that you are talking about everybody. Thai bashing is extremely prevalent on this forum as we all know, but it gets a bit tedious when it's shoe horned in to every thread especially when the negative attention should quite clearly be on a farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge2bridge Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 She may get away with this in OZ, as our laws are very weak when it comes to punishment. But hey TIT. Stupid woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screws Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Accusing 3 men of rape is not a small deal. Should have been given 15 months and let the word spread back home. or an up to 2000THB fine? wouldnt that be generally just in line with the thai punishments?? (like hit 2 without driving licence and run, up to 4000THB fine?) (cheat/technically lie on police entry exam, no prosecution, no fine!) No consistency in penalties here - steal gazillions & start the Asian financial crisis, get ten years, steal 34,000 baht from employer, get 100 years (but reduced to 50! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman69 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Would have better for all for her to have entered on her Brit passport Why? and how u know she had a Brit passport? Please use my full quote which IIRC or similar was " Would have better for all concerned for her not to have entered at all or on her Brit passport " 1. It would have passed the buck to the Brit Embassy instead of Larry Cunningham the overworked Aus. Hon. Consul. whose got enough on his plate dealing with real Aussie Bogans with real Aussie names. 2. Was reported on another site we can't mention but I have no reason to doubt the fact. If you like I'll give Larry a call to find out for sure. PM me if you like if it's so important to you. As was also reported somewhere else. " will have Bamford deported after she completes her sentence at Bang Jo detention centre, in a rural part of eastern Phuket where fruit and vegetables for Phuket Prison inmates are grown." My reply would have been. Should have done 15 months, not days, in the " Big House " Phuket Prison, subject to the attention to some of the inmates who "really like" other females, existing solely on a diet of rape and the produce from Bang Jo, would have died from starvation. That would have been more appropriate. Edited June 17, 2012 by sportsman69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman69 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hey, here's the article, name, photo, and all. Just a dumb 21 year old bogan girl who thought she could get away with blaming "evil foreigners" http://www.smh.com.a...0616-20gq7.html Top Crumpet, an apt name for this topic. Hey Yea. Just had a look at the link. Could leave her shoes under my bed anytime..............but...............Now thinking with the big head, would it be worth the risk. Nah Nah.......Eastern Suburbs is a subtle clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 15 days seems a very lenient sentence for such a serious false accusation against 3 Thai men. The crime of rape is sometimes very hard to prove but in a case where a woman "beyond all reasonable doubt" makes a false allegation of rape she should receive the same sentence as the men she has falsely accuses would have got plus pay substantial damages to the accused if she has named or identified them. Right on the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelmann Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 "Two senior officials from the Australian embassy in Bangkok flew to Phuket on Friday to be with her in court." Well I hope they also throw the book at her when she is back in Australia and redeem back substantial expenses... primarily tax payers money! Why do they have to fly to help her?? nice day out or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangman Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Hey, here's the article, name, photo, and all. Just a dumb 21 year old bogan girl who thought she could get away with blaming "evil foreigners" http://www.smh.com.a...0616-20gq7.html Top Crumpet, an apt name for this topic. Hey Yea. Just had a look at the link. Could leave her shoes under my bed anytime..............but...............Now thinking with the big head, would it be worth the risk. Nah Nah.......Eastern Suburbs is a subtle clue she deactivated her facebook account.. but not her twitter nor photobucket account and her facebook activity on statusbin is still in google cache these are the worst type of girls.. and it doesn't surprise me she cheated on her boyfriend nor made up this horrible lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Hey, here's the article, name, photo, and all. Just a dumb 21 year old bogan girl who thought she could get away with blaming "evil foreigners" http://www.smh.com.a...0616-20gq7.html Top Crumpet, an apt name for this topic. Hey Yea. Just had a look at the link. Could leave her shoes under my bed anytime..............but...............Now thinking with the big head, would it be worth the risk. Nah Nah.......Eastern Suburbs is a subtle clue Is this what you mean by eastern suburbs aussie in Thailand http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VK9h3vbjHKw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gand Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Hey, here's the article, name, photo, and all. Just a dumb 21 year old bogan girl who thought she could get away with blaming "evil foreigners" http://www.smh.com.a...0616-20gq7.html Top Crumpet, an apt name for this topic. Hey Yea. Just had a look at the link. Could leave her shoes under my bed anytime..............but...............Now thinking with the big head, would it be worth the risk. Nah Nah.......Eastern Suburbs is a subtle clue Is this what you mean by eastern suburbs aussie in Thailand http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VK9h3vbjHKw Georgia: "Australians are the nicest people, but you can only understand about half of what they say." 'My Life in Ruins' (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865559/ Edited June 21, 2012 by gand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinclapham Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 What makes you think she wasn't raped? Just because the coppers say so? http://www.humanrigh...als/UA-170-2004 For starters that is from 2004 so bears no relevance on the situation. I believe she admitted her guilt ! " But after investigating the woman's claims for almost a week, police discovered CCTV footage showing her going back to her hotel on the back of a motorbike taxi, not in a tuktuk. When shown the footage on Thursday night, police say Bamford admitted making up the story because she was afraid her boyfriend would be angry about her staying out late." http://www.smh.com.au/world/sydney-tourist-jailed-for-false-rape-claim-20120616-20gq7.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 What makes you think she wasn't raped? Just because the coppers say so? http://www.humanrigh...als/UA-170-2004 Because she said so, admitted to a false police report. sentenced to 15 days in open farm prison, now out on bail of 50,000 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 15 days seems a very lenient sentence for such a serious false accusation against 3 Thai men. The 3 men did not exist. That's a very good point. At least I failed to realize this even after reading this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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