Remove The Democrats, Reds Told

[473geo]

I was alluding to your knowledge of the english language was better than what you were trying to portray in your deliberate misreading of my post.

Nerves......in a couple of hours time the unthinkable may have happened.....

[rubl]

Cmon rubl, your english is better than that, but if you just want to make things up out of my post, carry on but don't forget this thread is about remove the democrats reds told......................

I'm trying to stick to the topic and I asked you all to put your mind on 'democratically eradicating a political opponent'.

As for 'make things up out of my post', I certainly would never presume I could or should even try to beat a master at his game

edit: add: how does one progress from 'english better than that' to 'but if you want to make things up'?

I was alluding to your knowledge of the english language was better than what you were trying to portray in your deliberate misreading of my post.

So, you accuse me of 'deliberate misreading' aka "I'm right, you're wrong'. Well with this topic of 'eradicating democracy' , such a remark fits., IMHO and only when gracefully granted permission.

Just for the fun of it, a nice Monty Python clip before I'm off to watch another match with the Orange players forgetting to score.

Edited June 17, 2012 by rubl

[Thaddeus]

Cmon rubl, your english is better than that, ..............

Correcting English, the last bastion..... well done.

Oh Thaddeus, if you only read and quote half of the post you will get less than half of its meaning - see above for my explanation to rubl, it may help avoid further kneejerk posts.

And your answer to correcting the English of a non native speaker is what, precisely ?

It is the last bastion of a player who comes second in a field of two.

[473geo]

Didn't the constitutional court eradicate an entire party (or was it 3 in all) 111 MPs was it not..... banned for 5 years........all legal of course........I mean the selection of the court representatives would have been....made...by....

Edited June 17, 2012 by 473geo

[ThaiOats]

Didn't the constitutional court eradicate an entire party (or was it 3 in all) 111 MPs was it not..... banned for 5 years........all legal of course........I mean the selection of the court representatives would have been....made...by....

Yea I know and they keep coming back like roaches. Dirty, dirty roaches.

[473geo]

Didn't the constitutional court eradicate an entire party (or was it 3 in all) 111 MPs was it not..... banned for 5 years........all legal of course........I mean the selection of the court representatives would have been....made...by....

Yea I know and they keep coming back like roaches. Dirty, dirty roaches.

I guess if they 'politically eradicate' the Dems....well they could easily reform and return

I guess they would not have too much difficulty getting back to their current position......

[MAJIC]

So Democracy for the Red Shirts,but not for the Democrats,you couldn't make this up!

[rubl]

I was alluding to your knowledge of the english language was better than what you were trying to portray in your deliberate misreading of my post.

Nerves......in a couple of hours time the unthinkable may have happened.....

Dear fellow members of TV,

it is with tears in my eyes and profound sadness that I have to tell you and announce that the unthinkable has happened. The Netherlands football team has been eradicated eliminated from the Eurocup 2012. Dr. weng has tried to console me saying 'it was unavoidable, they asked for it', but somehow that doesn't work.

I need time to contemplate how to proceed. Suicide ain't painless, so don't you worry about me choosing the easy way out

[Skywalker69]

I was alluding to your knowledge of the english language was better than what you were trying to portray in your deliberate misreading of my post.

Nerves......in a couple of hours time the unthinkable may have happened.....

Dear fellow members of TV,

it is with tears in my eyes and profound sadness that I have to tell you and announce that the unthinkable has happened. The Netherlands football team has been eradicated eliminated from the Eurocup 2012. Dr. weng has tried to console me saying 'it was unavoidable, they asked for it', but somehow that doesn't work.

I need time to contemplate how to proceed. Suicide ain't painless, so don't you worry about me choosing the easy way out

rubl I know how you feel. I felt the same when Sweden got kicked by England. The pain is still there.

[Yunla]

honestly, the amount of hyperbolic crap in that statement astounds me.

Have you got some kind of 'pay-for-each-word-you-type' deal going with your ISP or do you have genuinely nothing to say. Either way I really enjoyed your eleven word response to my post, complete with swear words and absent capitals. I walk away from you once again, wiser and happier for our meeting, and for that I thank you.

[nurofiend]

honestly, the amount of hyperbolic crap in that statement astounds me.

Have you got some kind of 'pay-for-each-word-you-type' deal going with your ISP or do you have genuinely nothing to say. Either way I really enjoyed your eleven word response to my post, complete with swear words and absent capitals. I walk away from you once again, wiser and happier for our meeting, and for that I thank you.

'absent capitals' .. it's not that i'm incapable of using the caps lock button, hard as it is, i choose not to.

i was pointing out that you're too far gone in your bias.

you only see the wrongs on one side and to me that's riiiiidiculous.

and with the type of language i've seen you use - ie 'red peasant'.... i know the place where you're coming from and i don't like it.

and i therefore feel that trying to reasonably debate anything with you is an exercise in futility.

ps: i'm happy that you feel wiser about the stuff you post and... your welcome.

[animatic]

It's amazing how people have a short memory.

The junta was quite aware that a democratic election will return Thaksin in power, so they wrote a new constitution that will limit the power of the new government and make sure that the army will firmly stay in charge of the country. That was made very clear, candidly presented as a way to avoid the return of Thaksin. And people were clearly informed that if they don't accept the new constitution, there wouldn't be any democratic election in the foreseeable future.

Unfortunately at that time there was no organized citizen movement to stop a minority of thugs to derail democracy in Thailand. That's why we now have the "reds", to send a clear message to the PAD that this time it won't be as easy as in 2006 and 2008. All the current red's sabre rattling is a reminder for the PAD to stay within the limit of the law or there will be consequences.

Nor a organized citizens group sufficient enough to stop a large clan of thugs from stealing the government coffers bare, and foisting a national scale con job on the people in the name of one mans ego.

Don't for a moment imagine this is about democracy vs feudalism.

It is capitalistic feudalism with a fascist backbone hiding behind pseudo-socialism,

to take power from older feudalists, who at least make attempts at social progress.

Faux progress to mask avarice as a route to power, is not progress.

Edited June 18, 2012 by animatic

[Yunla]

and with the type of language i've seen you use - ie 'red peasant'.... i know the place where you're coming from and i don't like it.

Actually I used a phrase called "red peasant revolution" to describe communist Mao revolution. Red peasant revolution is the most commonly used phrase for this event in sociology. They also had a "Peasant's Red Army". They were proud of their peasant roots. It says a lot more about your biased and aggressive cherrypicking style of foruming that you pick out the two words red peasant from the whole phrase and try to use it in your bitter crusade against me.

For your information, I am peasant in every way, single-parent family, half-cast ancestry, grew up in UK in bedsits in the north of England in absolute poverty 1970s-90s crimeland. I am truly as working class peasant as it gets. And for that reason I am disgusted by your implication that me using a sociological phrase to describe red peasant revolution is somehow my prejudice for the very socialclass I was born and raised in.

Infact it is my utter hatred for the billionaire megalomaniac Thaksin 'dangerous fleeing criminal' Shinawatra and the way he used poor rural people as disposable toy-soldiers in his evil armed uprising that makes me compare him to Mao.

You pick cherries and you work so hard to twist them into bitter fruit so you can feel superior. That is your problem and not mine.

My original point which you flamed with a discourteous non-response, actually was saying that I find the similarities between Thaksin and Mao very obvious and blood-chilling, and the latest announcement in this thread to "remove the [Opposition] Democrats" is exactly the type of totalitarian one-party and one-chairman rule that Mao installed before he got busy killing 100 million people, most of which were the poor farmers involved in his red peasant revolution.

For another fact, I have very good Chinese friends from childhood onwards, my sister is engaged to a lovely Chinese man in UK, I have nothing but respect for Chinese people in general. But if any of my Chinese friends started putting up red posters of their own face all around the house and wearing red t-shirts with their own face on it, and telling me they were above the law etc. I would seriously compare them to Mao and un-friend them on facebook too.

Edited June 18, 2012 by Yunla

[nurofiend]

'Red peasant revolution' is the most commonly used phrase for this event in sociology

really? show me then

no? why? because you can't.

but honestly, i'm not at all interested in what you have to say... so let's leave it at that.

(though i know you'll use that as an excuse not to show me this most commonly used phrase "red peasant revolution")

[Yunla]

'Red peasant revolution' is the most commonly used phrase for this event in sociology

really? show me then

no? why? because you can't.

but honestly, i'm not at all interested in what you have to say... so let's leave it at that.

(though i know you'll use that as an excuse not to show me this most commonly used phrase "red peasant revolution")

GOOGLE : Maos peasant revolution. Maos Red Peasant Army.

Don't you see how you are making yourself look like an idiot infront of the whole world. Also, It is you who follows me from thread to thread laying on these one line responses to all my posts, hardly the action of somebody not interested in what I have to say.

[nurofiend]

'Red peasant revolution' is the most commonly used phrase for this event in sociology

really? show me then

no? why? because you can't.

but honestly, i'm not at all interested in what you have to say... so let's leave it at that.

(though i know you'll use that as an excuse not to show me this most commonly used phrase "red peasant revolution")

GOOGLE : Maos peasant revolution. Maos Red Peasant Army.

Don't you see how you are making yourself look like an idiot infront of the whole world. Also, It is you who follows me from thread to thread laying on these one line responses to all my posts, hardly the action of somebody not interested in what I have to say.

in front of the whole world? get a grip.

follows you around from thread to thread? again, get a grip... seriously.

so obviously you have no proof of 'Red peasant revolution' being the most commonly used phrase for this event in sociology...

cheers.

[nurofiend]

has 'Red peasant revolution' ever been used as a phrase for this event in sociology??

yes.... but by you alone.... and no one else.

[Moruya]

has 'Red peasant revolution' ever been used as a phrase for this event in sociology??

yes.... but by you alone.... and no one else.

what is the point of your nastiness?

[OzMick]

Please inform us the changes to the previous constitution that you find objectionable. IMHO there are none except the coup amnesty clause, and the only objection is to the proposers rather than the document itself.

Which makes the argument that the proposers were bad because of the document circular, invalid and weaker than fizzy drink.

Well said Mick, no need to fuss about a little amnesty clause........

So lets get the current constitutional bill passed passed, after all the amnesty clause for some silly reason appears to be the only major obstacle.....

So that's it for you as well? The only problem with the 2006 constitution is the amnesty clause?

It seems you think the 2 amnesties are equivalent - one for the peaceful removal of a corrupt government, the other for a violent insurrection that lead to the death of 90+ people and mass arson. What a maroon!

[nurofiend]

has 'Red peasant revolution' ever been used as a phrase for this event in sociology??

yes.... but by you alone.... and no one else.

what is the point of your nastiness?

nastiness?

[473geo]

Please inform us the changes to the previous constitution that you find objectionable. IMHO there are none except the coup amnesty clause, and the only objection is to the proposers rather than the document itself.

Which makes the argument that the proposers were bad because of the document circular, invalid and weaker than fizzy drink.

Well said Mick, no need to fuss about a little amnesty clause........

So lets get the current constitutional bill passed passed, after all the amnesty clause for some silly reason appears to be the only major obstacle.....

So that's it for you as well? The only problem with the 2006 constitution is the amnesty clause?

It seems you think the 2 amnesties are equivalent - one for the peaceful removal of a corrupt government, the other for a violent insurrection that lead to the death of 90+ people and mass arson. What a maroon!

And there we have it, the now apparently obligatory insult accompanies the lack of peripheral vision, and selective memory. wallow in your own ignorance if you must......

[phiphidon]

I was alluding to your knowledge of the english language was better than what you were trying to portray in your deliberate misreading of my post.

Nerves......in a couple of hours time the unthinkable may have happened.....

Dear fellow members of TV,

it is with tears in my eyes and profound sadness that I have to tell you and announce that the unthinkable has happened. The Netherlands football team has been eradicated eliminated from the Eurocup 2012. Dr. weng has tried to console me saying 'it was unavoidable, they asked for it', but somehow that doesn't work.

I need time to contemplate how to proceed. Suicide ain't painless, so don't you worry about me choosing the easy way out

Well the good news is you've spared RVP from any further chance of being injured and for that I'm eternally grateful.

[nurofiend]

I was alluding to your knowledge of the english language was better than what you were trying to portray in your deliberate misreading of my post.

Nerves......in a couple of hours time the unthinkable may have happened.....

Dear fellow members of TV,

it is with tears in my eyes and profound sadness that I have to tell you and announce that the unthinkable has happened. The Netherlands football team has been eradicated eliminated from the Eurocup 2012. Dr. weng has tried to console me saying 'it was unavoidable, they asked for it', but somehow that doesn't work.

I need time to contemplate how to proceed. Suicide ain't painless, so don't you worry about me choosing the easy way out

could be worse... you could be irish.

[Moruya]

has 'Red peasant revolution' ever been used as a phrase for this event in sociology??

yes.... but by you alone.... and no one else.

what is the point of your nastiness?

nastiness?

Yes.

[OzMick]

Please inform us the changes to the previous constitution that you find objectionable. IMHO there are none except the coup amnesty clause, and the only objection is to the proposers rather than the document itself.

Which makes the argument that the proposers were bad because of the document circular, invalid and weaker than fizzy drink.

Well said Mick, no need to fuss about a little amnesty clause........

So lets get the current constitutional bill passed passed, after all the amnesty clause for some silly reason appears to be the only major obstacle.....

So that's it for you as well? The only problem with the 2006 constitution is the amnesty clause?

It seems you think the 2 amnesties are equivalent - one for the peaceful removal of a corrupt government, the other for a violent insurrection that lead to the death of 90+ people and mass arson. What a maroon!

And there we have it, the now apparently obligatory insult accompanies the lack of peripheral vision, and selective memory. wallow in your own ignorance if you must......

...........because you can't educate me. The whole libel of the 2006 constitution is a facade used by hollow men.

[nurofiend]

has 'Red peasant revolution' ever been used as a phrase for this event in sociology??

yes.... but by you alone.... and no one else.

what is the point of your nastiness?

nastiness?

Yes.

it's clear that you understood that i was asking you to explain why you are calling me nasty,

but instead you chose not to back up your derogatory slur and substituted it with a petty attempt at one-upmanship.

[animatic]

'nurofiend' timestamp='1339982838' post='5400483

'has 'Red peasant revolution' ever been used as a phrase for this event in sociology??

yes.... but by you alone.... and no one else.

what is the point of your nastiness?

nastiness?

Yes.

it's clear that you understood that i was asking you to explain why you are calling me nasty,

but instead you chose not to back up your derogatory slur and substituted it with a petty attempt at one-upmanship.

He is calling the comment nastiness, not the commenter.

But I don't think the comment he refers to is particularly nasty, just narrowly focused.

I also disagree on the point.

In socialogy this phrase has been used regularly in generations of Uni Profs talks and papers..

But maybe less lately, so this might be an age/perspective discrepancy.

Edited June 18, 2012 by animatic

[nurofiend]

He is calling the comment nastiness, not the commenter.

But I don't think the comment he refers to is particularly nasty, just narrowly focused.

I also disagree on the point.

In socialogy this phrase has been used regularly in generations of Uni Profs talks and papers..

But maybe less lately, so this might be an age/perspective discrepancy.

well the only existence of this phrase ever existing on the internet... is on this forum.

maybe you can scan in an old paper and prove me wrong, but until then the evidence or lack of, is on my side.

to me, that aspect is besides the point anyway, it wasn't just that phrase alone that led me to my viewpoint.

and tbh it was between myself and the other poster so i don't know why others feel so obliged to get involved.

[soundman]

This topic appears to have derailed into personal bickering sessions between a number of members.

Please get back on topic - or if you can't control yourselves - stop posting in it.

I don't want to see any more reports of useless, off topic, bickering posts, thank you.

[soundman]

Posts continuing bickering are now being arbitrarily removed.

Those who persist will earn a spell in the sin bin.