dksharron Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Fortunately, the lady who had her arm cut, and is alive and well, will be able to look at whomever the police bring forward as suspects, so that she state that they have the right man or they don't. I would not be surprised if the police eventually make a statement concerning it being dark, and the Australian lady not getting a clear view of the suspects, and that she is not sure if the suspect they present is correct or not. This is bad for Phuket Tourism on the basis of dangerous crime, but it is especially bad for Phuket Tourism on the basis of the actions by police and their statements concerning the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Phuket, the beachside bronx 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Fortunately, the lady who had her arm cut, and is alive and well, will be able to look at whomever the police bring forward as suspects, so that she state that they have the right man or they don't. I would not be surprised if the police eventually make a statement concerning it being dark, and the Australian lady not getting a clear view of the suspects, and that she is not sure if the suspect they present is correct or not. This is bad for Phuket Tourism on the basis of dangerous crime, but it is especially bad for Phuket Tourism on the basis of the actions by police and their statements concerning the crime. Unless a suspect is shot at the arrest location then case closed no need for a positive I.D. Thai style. Hopefully that will not be the case but the police have already issued a statement that he may be shot and covered the bases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 What Thailand seems to fail to recognize is that the crime has already been committed. The horse has left the barn and is running in the field. Frantically closing the barn door does not alter the fact. If the police do indeed catch the killers it really does not remove the stigma that you may be killed on your tropical holiday. It will simply save a bit of face for the police dept. This latest bit of news about knowing who they are and threatening to shoot them is just more weird BIB police work. Sort of makes it look like they are going to shoot a couple of local bad boys, and then declare the case solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steffi Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 This really is a case the boss having a cunning plan and the subordinates not having the balls to tell him that making an announcement like this isn't such a good idea. They will randomly shoot two guys they can fit up with the offence. It is disturbing indeed because they can just go out and shoot anybody who's a close fit to just end all the bad press and get this story out of the news which is primarily what they want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm not a policeman, however if I was I don't think I would advertise in the national press.........we know who you are, we know where you are, give yourself up or we'll shoot you. I would more inclined to just go get the guy........ Thai police work in mysterious ways It'll save them some footwork, if he surrender at a police station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carra Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 How many police does it take to hold a press conference?? While 300 of them were sitting there who was out looking for the offenders, and who was out collecting tea money while all these dopes sat in the station hoping to have their ugly mugs on tv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdang Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 he first stabs her, then tries to get the bag ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdang Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) there is footage available of the murder... read the paper with green... the guy gets off the motorbike, stabs the women in the chest, and then tries to grab the bag... so it looks to me... ok, maybe not...watched again... but the number plate should be possible to decipher... michelle smith, the murdered travel agent, is the one in the light (white) dress, being attacked first? An arrest warrant was issued yesterday for the men whose identity is known. then no reason, to hold back any names and passport pics etc... Edited June 24, 2012 by dingdang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 there is footage available of the murder... read the paper with green... the guy gets off the motorbike, stabs the women in the chest, and then tries to grab the bag... so it looks to me... ok, maybe not...watched again... but the number plate should be possible to decipher... CCTV of Phuket murder: http://www.facebook.com/ThaiVisaNews 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansgruber Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 They have no idea who done the crime. By offering a reward proves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Sadly, to me this also sounds like they got no clue who or where they are... What a bloody mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 " Yesterday, Pansiri chaired a meeting of senior Phuket officers at the local police headquarters, during which he stressed the importance of restoring tourist confidence following the incident. He said police would get tough with local influential figures who abused foreign tourists and caused much damage to the country's tourism reputation. " ' Amazing Lieland ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 "If the suspects resist arrest, police may have to defend themselves and the suspects may end up being killed in a justifiable homicide," he said. Wow, must remember to include that brainwave in the police training manual that I'm going to write one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) there is footage available of the murder... read the paper with green... the guy gets off the motorbike, stabs the women in the chest, and then tries to grab the bag... so it looks to me... ok, maybe not...watched again... but the number plate should be possible to decipher... CCTV of Phuket murder: http://www.facebook.com/ThaiVisaNews That doesn't look/sound like CCTV footage, unless the post the camera was attached to is known for heavy breathing. Edited June 24, 2012 by Thaddeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guruofvinyl Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 about 30 years ago I lived on a soi off Petchaburi Rd in Bangkok and there were two guys on a motorbike that were snatching gold chains from ladies walking along the soi. the Police caught them and warned them to stop, but they started up again after the warning. One day they disappeared and all the neighbors said this was usual and that they were taken someplace and shot dead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 there is footage available of the murder... read the paper with green... the guy gets off the motorbike, stabs the women in the chest, and then tries to grab the bag... so it looks to me... ok, maybe not...watched again... but the number plate should be possible to decipher... CCTV of Phuket murder: http://www.facebook.com/ThaiVisaNews That doesn't look/sound like CCTV footage, unless the post the camera was attached to is known for heavy breathing. It's a video taken of a screen playing the video. Thai IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokheat Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 since when would you need an arrest warrant for murder, I can just see it now, "we come to arrest you for murder, we have you on CCTV",,,,,,no it wouldnt be me, maybe someone look like me, you know we all look same to falangs",,,,ok if you not come with us then you wait here, we come back 24 hours with arrest warrant krub" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 do they have the number plate on the motor bike? the footage showed them on the motorbike from the back, not straight, but with special software police can make a lot of things visible... They got only one number on the plate from the enhanced CCTV footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silsburyhill Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 "This is an important case that must be solved urgently. We should not let only two people cause damage to Phuket's tourism. I promise that police will arrest those two perpetrators as soon as possible," Pansiri said. Shame with Thai men like this, everything boiling down to $$$. One day human life will be viewed on an index. So sad. I think your post would've been better phrased shame some Thai men like this.By the way, interesting the 'reward' is 300k. That's the going rate nowadays for bribing police captains and local prosecutors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudolus Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Oh dear lord. So, and excuse me if you do not read this the same way, but are they basically saying that there is some poor sod out there who owes the cops some cash who is going to be executed in the next few days following by lots of pictures and a press gathering being told "this is the guy, we got him, he resisted and we shot him 129 times". Edited June 24, 2012 by Pseudolus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 What Thailand seems to fail to recognize is that the crime has already been committed. The horse has left the barn and is running in the field. Frantically closing the barn door does not alter the fact. If the police do indeed catch the killers it really does not remove the stigma that you may be killed on your tropical holiday. It will simply save a bit of face for the police dept. This latest bit of news about knowing who they are and threatening to shoot them is just more weird BIB police work. Sort of makes it look like they are going to shoot a couple of local bad boys, and then declare the case solved. As I posted in a previous post. The police seem to know who the offenders are. They just don't know where they are. Maybe they know that these offenders have a history of violence prior to this incident and are of the belief that they will not go quitely.We have all seen this type in Thailand before at one time or another. So I am thinking the warning is an attempt at self preservation. Nobody, no matter how hard one thinks they are, wants to go into any situation where they are risking getting themselves killed whilst trying to arrest armed thugs,possibley high on drugs and looking at life in prison. Bad situation for any law enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoodThaiGirl Posted June 24, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2012 Dear Michelle, Sorry that we could not save you. You will not die for nothing... at least you alert those who do corrupt and still think they do nothing wrong. You remind us that tourism is all about having a beautiful land and good people NOT only a big investment on facility. Your death give a slap on the face of all Thai police as the 2 guys did not even bother to wear helmet while making crime. Moreover even Police have caught them on camera they can still walk free. Let peace be with you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) So, let me get this straight, they know their whereabouts, but offer a reward that leads to the arrest of the guys? It very much sounds to me like they know <Snip> all and try to trick the assailants into surrender!!! Is this the best they can come up with? Edited June 24, 2012 by metisdead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm not a policeman, however if I was I don't think I would advertise in the national press.........we know who you are, we know where you are, give yourself up or we'll shoot you.I would more inclined to just go get the guy........ Thai police work in mysterious ways That is because they have no idea who done it ! They are now hoping for 2 Thais to hand them selves in it is a little like poking a wasps nest in the hope that something will come out, then it could end up being holy <deleted>. Besides, with the 2 Thais shot, as they are actually pre-anouncing here already, it is gonna be a ready made shut case, no more evidence needed, and moving on with daily activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yummypizza Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I think it's time to take my meds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramdaddy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Does anyone really care about Phuket's tourism on this site? I certainly don't after watching the CCTV video of the woman being violently stabbed. Travellers should go to Vietnam, Vientiane, Laos. Go to Cambodia. Nice places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdrhan Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 If the thai police are so sure of the suspects,why didn´t the bring pictures of them as well? Normally - when they have caught someone, they are all displayed at the policestation in front of everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydrummerpauly Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm not a policeman, however if I was I don't think I would advertise in the national press.........we know who you are, we know where you are, give yourself up or we'll shoot you. I would more inclined to just go get the guy........ Thai police work in mysterious ways They don't know where they are, they are on the run - they just know their usual address form their identification, hence : "Police are hunting for..." With these reports we always have to 'interpret' to make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) "This is an important case that must be solved urgently. We should not let only two people cause damage to Phuket's tourism. I promise that police will arrest those two perpetrators as soon as possible," Pansiri said. Shame with Thai men like this, everything boiling down to $$$. One day human life will be viewed on an index. So sad. I think your post would've been better phrased shame some Thai men like this.By the way, interesting the 'reward' is 300k. That's the going rate nowadays for bribing police captains and local prosecutors. And passing your police entry exams it would seem! Re an earlier comment it always amuses me too how many police there are hanging around when the press cameras are reporting a serious crime and yet how few you see in crime hotspots like Phuket to protect the unwary toursist in the first place. Edited June 24, 2012 by bigbamboo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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