Jatuporn Threatens Hunger Strike If Bail Revoked

[Moruya]

If I was a CC judge having to put up with having having my private phone numbers handed to the public inciting hate calls and intimidation, I would be inclined to remind another court that the terms of bail had been broached for sure. Yingluck hasn't enough spine to reprimand the Reds and some of them are bang out of order.

Well apart from the fact that Jaturporn had nothing to do with the names/adresses nonsense and looking at the situation non emotionally and from a legal viewpoint, is it normal legal practise for a constitutional court to use its legal team to press for bail revocation in a criminal court?

Jatuporn was at the same rally - defaming the same judges.

You keep on posting these throwaway lines and not one of them have you backed with any kind of evidence. To date you have accused Jaturporn of giving out the names and addresses of the CC judges, calling for the murder of abhisit and suthep and now he was "defaming" the judges. He's been a busy boy hasn't he?

What next, your dog died and it's because jatuporn put a spell on it..................?

I think Jatuporn ate my dog. It was very big too!

Jatuporn was indeed accused of threatening the judges.

I apologised at the time for the judges' phone numbers - said I was mixing up my scumbags that day.

If it wasn't Jatuporn that said that there were 98 dead and Abhisit and Suthep would make it 100 then it was one of his brothers in arms.

[OzMick]

Wouldn't mercenary political agitators be better called "brother's in alms". Although they talk a good fight (We will fight to the death (yours), to the last drop of (your) blood) when it came to the crunch, the only thing they did with arms was raise them over their head.

[phiphidon]

He also wished they were dead or something along those lines in his speech during Thaksin's its all about me me me rally in Cambodia. Its reported by Nick Nolitz on New Mandala.

Thats more like it, I'll check it out, thanks.

[phiphidon]

No link, not everything that happens in the world is appended a URL.

I realise that but I don't believe things that are passed along as hearsay, especially on this forum and especially by someone who posts lots of accusations without a shred of evidence. Thanks to longway, I think it was, I tracked this down from Nick Nostitz reporting on the cambodia songkran rally

That though did not hinder Jatuporn later on, when Thaksin has already left, to state, after he talked about the Red Shirt victims of 2010, that he would like Abhisit and Suthep to be dead.

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2012/04/23/songkran-in-cambodia-red-shirts-meet-thaksin/

Not a pleasant thought by any means but far and away from "He suggested the murder of Abhisit and Suthep as I recall. An offence all by itself in most societies" , as moruya stated but then I expected that would be the case.

[mrtoad]

Any news on Jatta the Hut, and if he has started his hunger strike - I did notice that he said he would commence it from Democracy Monument to the jail. I'm guessing by that, he means he'll stop eating for the duration of the journey, which in Fatboys mind equates to a hunger strike.

Edited June 27, 2012 by mrtoad

[MunterHunter]

Not a pleasant thought by any means but far and away from "He suggested the murder of Abhisit and Suthep as I recall. An offence all by itself in most societies" , as moruya stated but then I expected that would be the case.

Buts hes still a scumbag IMHO

[Crushdepth]

Is it possible to sponsor this event?

[mrtoad]

Is it possible to sponsor this event?

I think Dunkin Donuts have already got it in the bag

[whybother]

Is it possible to sponsor this event?

I think Dunkin Donuts have already got it in the bag

Surely not. They'd be worried about going broke, wouldn't they?

Of course, maybe this is part of the PTP plan to bring food prices down. With Jatuporn not eating, there's going to be quite an over supply of food, isn't there?

[ginjag]

Better he have a consultation with a shrink at a weight watchers club. the last one you would invite to your buffet party.

[mrtoad]

Is it possible to sponsor this event?

I think Dunkin Donuts have already got it in the bag

Surely not. They'd be worried about going broke, wouldn't they?

Of course, maybe this is part of the PTP plan to bring food prices down. With Jatuporn not eating, there's going to be quite an over supply of food, isn't there?

Quite right, but it won't happen

[Buchholz]

Today, the Criminal Court announced they would deliver their decision on the revocation of Jatuporn's bail a week from tomorrow, on August 9.

They will also deliver their decision on bail revocation for 24 other Red Shirts on that date.

The court also announced there were to be strict measures in place on that date so that there is no repeat of the July 23 chaos at the court building created by Red Shirts and their loudspeakers which disrupted proceedings in multiple other court proceedings at the same building.

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Edited August 1, 2012 by Buchholz

[PoodMaiDai]

Oh no... whatever you do don't starve yourself to death. The world would be lost with you.

[PoodMaiDai]

Today, the Criminal Court announced they would deliver their decision on the revocation of Jatuporn's bail a week from tomorrow, on August 9.

They will also deliver their decision on bail revocation for 24 other Red Shirts on that date.

The court also announced there were to be strict measures in place on that date so that there is no repeat of the July 23 chaos at the court building created by Red Shirts and their loudspeakers which disrupted proceedings in multiple other court proceedings at the same building.

They should bring out the military and gun down (with riot bags and rubber bullets - not real bullets) anyone who tries to disrupt a court hearing. Even in Thailand (I know, don't laugh) it is a court of law.

[metisdead]

Nonsense post and replies have been removed.

[Buchholz]

today we find out if Jatuporn will begin a new dieting plan... or not...

Jatuporn, Reds face bail ruling today

Trying to predict whether the Criminal Court will revoke bail today granted earlier to red-shirt leaders may be as tough as reading the minds of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her big brother on the issue.

It's natural to assume that Yingluck and Thaksin want their most outstanding front-line political soldier, Jatuporn Promphan, to remain a free man.

Under the surface, however, it's a bit more complicated, as a free-wheeling Jatuporn will almost surely stake a claim for a Cabinet post.

Giving Jatuporn a ministerial post could put the government's purported "reconciliation" agenda in jeopardy. But keeping him out of the Cabinet could be hard for the government to explain the reason why to the red shirts.

Jatuporn back in jail would deflect this dilemma, with all the blame and criticism shifted to the court.

Jatuporn and 18 other red-shirts face the Criminal Court today with possible bail revocation hanging in the balance. Number one red-leader Jatuporn put himself in this trouble after aggressively attacking the Constitution Court for halting the government-advocated charter reform process.

Facing charges related to the bloody political strife in 2010 and no longer enjoying parliamentary immunity after losing his MP status, Jatuporn will return to jail if the Criminal Court rules that his verbal attacks on the Constitution Court constituted behaviour warranting the loss of bail.

The bail situation for another senior red-shirt, Yoswarit Chuklom (Jeng Dokjik), looks equally fragile, if not more.

He revealed the phone numbers of Constitution Court judges at a red-shirt rally, virtually asking those opposed to the charter reform delay to call the judges to voice their disapproval.

Today's crucial court session was postponed from August 9. On that day, a few thousand red-shirts gathered to give those facing bail revocation moral support. Today's gathering is not expected to be bigger than that held on August 9.

One red-shirt leader, Nutthawut Saikua, is already in the Cabinet, serving as Deputy Agriculture Minister. But observers say if Jatuporn joins him, possibly as Deputy Interior Minister, it will not only reinforce the perception that the government is confrontational, but also create a rumble of discontent among other factions within the ruling party.

Legal analysts find it hard to predict today's verdicts, as any decision would have different political implications, which may be taken into consideration by the judges. One compromise scenario has the Criminal Court allowing the 19 red-shirt members to remain free on bail but imposing more restrictions on their activities, violation of which would lead to undisputed bail revocation.

Such probation should be greeted with delight by the reds, but not necessarily Prime Minister Yingluck and her brother Thaksin.

-- The Nation 2012-08-22

[Buchholz]

Top red-shirts ready to accept verdict: Natthawut

Nineteen red-shirt leaders are prepared to abide by today's verdict on their bail review and have appealed to their supporters not to become unruly if the outcome is unfavorable, Deputy Agriculture Minister Natthawut Saikua said yesterday.

The bail review for five other red-shirt leaders, including Natthawut, will take place on November 29, coinciding with the House adjournment and the end of their legislative immunity.

"Regardless of whether there is a positive or negative verdict, it will be accepted by the red shirts," Natthawut said.

Of the 19, he said the court had already heard rebuttals from 18, and only Yotwarit Chooklom, aka Jeng Dokjik, would submit extra evidence in his defence in this morning's session.

The court was expected to rule by the afternoon, he said.

Natthawut said he believed Yotwarit would use the session to apologise to Constitution Court judges for revealing their home addresses and phone numbers. An earlier apology made on the rally stage should be proof he meant no harm to the judges, he said.

Red-shirt leader Arisman Pongruangrong said he hoped for leniency, admitting that the leaders might have got carried away by their emotions while making rally speeches.

Yotwarit had apologised for his remarks and sought forgiveness from the judges, Arisman said.

He was optimistic the court would issue a caution in lieu of bail cancellation.

-- The Nation 2012-08-22

[Buchholz]

"Regardless of whether there is a positive or negative verdict, it will be accepted by the red shirts," Natthawut said.

That would be an encouraging "first".

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[ratcatcher]

Top red-shirts ready to accept verdict: Natthawut

Nineteen red-shirt leaders are prepared to abide by today's verdict on their bail review and have appealed to their supporters not to become unruly if the outcome is unfavorable, Deputy Agriculture Minister Natthawut Saikua said yesterday.

The bail review for five other red-shirt leaders, including Natthawut, will take place on November 29, coinciding with the House adjournment and the end of their legislative immunity.

"Regardless of whether there is a positive or negative verdict, it will be accepted by the red shirts," Natthawut said.

Of the 19, he said the court had already heard rebuttals from 18, and only Yotwarit Chooklom, aka Jeng Dokjik, would submit extra evidence in his defence in this morning's session.

The court was expected to rule by the afternoon, he said.

Natthawut said he believed Yotwarit would use the session to apologise to Constitution Court judges for revealing their home addresses and phone numbers. An earlier apology made on the rally stage should be proof he meant no harm to the judges, he said.

Red-shirt leader Arisman Pongruangrong said he hoped for leniency, admitting that the leaders might have got carried away by their emotions while making rally speeches.

Yotwarit had apologised for his remarks and sought forgiveness from the judges, Arisman said.

He was optimistic the court would issue a caution in lieu of bail cancellation.

-- The Nation 2012-08-22

"Red-shirt leader Arisman Pongruangrong said he hoped for leniency, admitting that the leaders might have got carried away by their emotions while making rally speeches."

Another priceless quote from the fire chief. What a wrecked 'em!

Edited August 22, 2012 by ratcatcher

[saltandpepper]

Any news on Jatta the Hut, and if he has started his hunger strike - I did notice that he said he would commence it from Democracy Monument to the jail. I'm guessing by that, he means he'll stop eating for the duration of the journey, which in Fatboys mind equates to a hunger strike.

I hope he starts and never stops!

[moe666]

I am back in the states for a few months and it is a bit boreing here.I went thru the entire thread just hopeing one of the usual suspects would come to the defense of Big J and PP didn;t let me down, his retorts were a bit weak as he didn't throw his whole heart into it. A bit hard considering the subject of the thread.

[Moruya]

"Regardless of whether there is a positive or negative verdict, it will be accepted by the red shirts," Natthawut said.

That would be an encouraging "first".

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They never have the courage of their convictions do they?

I see a lot of backtracking from them now that they face the judge instead if the red fan club.

Cowards.

I'm so sorry your honour, it was a heat if the moment thing your honour.

2 faced hypocrites

[Buchholz]

Criminal Court inquires further into UDD leader Jeng Dokchik's case;

Criminal Court inquires further into UDD leader Jeng Dokchik's case; to read decision on withdrawing bail for 19 UDD leaders at 3pm; police confident situation under control

http://www.mcot.net/cfcustom/cache_page/403605.html

[jerrysteve]

Lets hope he doesn't tip the scales for Revoking the Bail.

A loss of 100 kilos would do him good; make it 200 just for good measure!

Edited August 22, 2012 by jerrysteve