Sandman77 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 hello! My Thai girlfriend says, in Isaan is not nesarsary to buy the water! When the monsoon rain comes , it fill up the water tank quickly, but I not sure is this water clean, and compatible with farang stomage? I also thinking about to buy a mineral stone here in Austria before I fly to Thailand in oktober! But the filtering process needs long time! Many hours over the night! Also not sure where I can find this stones! In tv i see a movie with the name plastic planet, the sinetists says its unhealthy to drink the water in plastic bottles all the time ! But in Thailand only some resorts have shinga water in glass in the stores I find only soda and plastic bottels Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Probably but I'd still chlorinate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy D Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I respect anyone trying eco-living but I think processing rainwater to drink is not really viable. We get those 5gal plastic carboys of drinking water delivered to the door for just 9bt. I don't think you can do better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 There is something in the water in Isaan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 I respect anyone trying eco-living but I think processing rainwater to drink is not really viable. We get those 5gal plastic carboys of drinking water delivered to the door for just 9bt. I don't think you can do better than that. Why is collecting natural rainwater not viable ?? I would much prefer to trust my own rainwater source than some thais tap or river water filtration system in your convenient delivered...and cheap...water. I have collected rainwater on 2 places we lived here now....on one we still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) I respect anyone trying eco-living but I think processing rainwater to drink is not really viable. We get those 5gal plastic carboys of drinking water delivered to the door for just 9bt. I don't think you can do better than that. I have been drinking the rainwater from the tiled roof for 8 years now with no side effects. Granted I live in Khampaeng Phet province and not Isaan and only once have we run out of that water and had to buy in. We did have 14 people living here for quite a long time and it exhausted the 2 x 3,000 litre stainless steel tanks. That cost me 1,000 baht for 1,000 litres so by getting rainwater for free it must be a better deal than 20 litres for 9 baht. Would I drink the rainwater from my roof in Map Tha Phut? Not a chance nor in any big city but I live in the countryside. Edited July 8, 2012 by billd766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Unless you studied chemistry at uni (and are extremely bored) I would recommend leaving it to the experts (and buy it from the supermarket). Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My grandparents were no experts and their galvanised rainwater tank by the house had the best water I can ever remember drinking....head under the tap....cool, crisp, refreshing taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My grandparents were no experts and their galvanised rainwater tank by the house had the best water I can ever remember drinking....head under the tap....cool, crisp, refreshing taste. Most poisons would taste nice when mixed with Red Fanta... Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My grandparents were no experts and their galvanised rainwater tank by the house had the best water I can ever remember drinking....head under the tap....cool, crisp, refreshing taste. Most poisons would taste nice when mixed with Red Fanta... Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules Red fanta was not invented back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My grandparents were no experts and their galvanised rainwater tank by the house had the best water I can ever remember drinking....head under the tap....cool, crisp, refreshing taste. Most poisons would taste nice when mixed with Red Fanta... Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules Red fanta was not invented back then. Green? Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyce Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Aren't there Mosquito Larvae, and other bugs in these tanks. Why bother to drink it when water is so cheap,the thais are used to drinking rainwater there uesd to it not like us westerners, not for me i'm afraid . Good Health to all. Boyce Edited July 8, 2012 by Boyce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Aren't there Mosquito Larvae, and other bugs in these tanks. Why bother to drink it when water is so cheap,the thais are used to drinking rainwater there uesd to it not like us westerners, not for me i'm afraid . Good Health to all. Boyce interesting how things change so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Rain water is an excellent and very practical source of drinking water -- and what I myself drink and have for the past 15+ years.. The only issue is that some dirt can get into it as it passes off the roof and also the storage containers can accumulate dirt. To be on the absolutely safe side then, either boil or filter it (or chlorinate, but that leaves a taste) before drinking. A simple table top carbon filter device works fine. What I use is made by Pure, called Nuvo, sits on the Kitchen counter and holds maybe 10 L of water. You can buy at any of the Pure outlets (google them, they have shops all over the country). I believe Amyway may also sell a type and sometimes you can find countertop water filters them at tesco. The issue with drinking water from plastic bottles arises if they have been exposed to heat (as will happen if out in the sun). And it is more of concern with some types of plastic than others. I seem to recall a recent thread in this forum that discussed brands and which had the safer type of plastic, you can try a search for "plastic water bottle" in this forum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My wifes family collect rain water in a very large concrete tank, when we are at home in issan i drink it all the time never any problems with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My wife bought a korean made filter years ago, probably similar to the one Sheryl decribes, it cost 5000 baht, has filtered over 25k litres with one filter contents change, never had any side effects in the family. As there are loads of people around most days it is a real benefit, water bottles topped up every morning, filter refilled from the rain water urns. When I am home, I will consume min 2 litres a day, absolutely no side effects and very refreshing. First job of the day is usually a couple of glasses of water before I hit the coffee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffy D Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Well maybe viable wasn't the right word. Just seems the work involved in setting up a rainwater collection system, filtering out the bird poo and rat sh*t and all the other stuff that collects on the roof, then keeping the mosquitoes and who knows what else from setting up home in the storage tanks and then final filtering and the regular maintenance of those filters seems like a lot of effort for a glass of water. I just put the empty carboys on the porch with the money on the table and they come round every couple of days, most times I don't even see them. Well each to their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Country folk across the country...in Oz...still to this day collect rainwater and....here is the really strange bit....drink it. Like I said....I would prefer to drink my own collected rainwater....than rely on the Thai company filtering the tap or river water that you get.....100% properly everytime. We used to live in Bangkok and behind our house was a small 'local' office of a water bottle company....they washed the bottles here and filtered the tap water and then delivered it....they had about 30 dogs running around the yard and who knows how many pee on the bottles after washed....if washed at all. Also do you think at how cheap the water is and in an operation like this one....they spend the cash on new filters exactly when they should ??....or let them run for a few more months ?? Anyway....interesting how the view of things change over ones life.....when i was younger there was almost no such thing as bottled water for sale in a corner store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Well maybe viable wasn't the right word. Just seems the work involved in setting up a rainwater collection system, filtering out the bird poo and rat sh*t and all the other stuff that collects on the roof, then keeping the mosquitoes and who knows what else from setting up home in the storage tanks and then final filtering and the regular maintenance of those filters seems like a lot of effort for a glass of water. I just put the empty carboys on the porch with the money on the table and they come round every couple of days, most times I don't even see them. Well each to their own It is not at all a lot of work. You just buy large water jars and position them where the maximum rain run off is. Cover with mosquito netting or screen-like mesh (I do, but a lot of people don't bother). . Keep a solid cover on when it's not raining. Once or twice a week or so, collect water from it. pour into countertop filter (I pass it through a strainer as I do that but again, not everyone bothers). That's it. When the filter-cum-water dispenser runs dry, clean the top part and repeat this process. Ervy so often - about once a year in the case of the brand I use -- change the filter. Couldn't be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessplayer Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Somehow no one mentioned algae. I wonder if it is hygienic to drink water with algae, as they seem to grow anywhere damp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsiam Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Algae will not grow in the tank if it is kept covered and sunlight cannot get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I recommend against the drinking of untreated rainwater. I would consider drinking filtered, processed rainwater. Although, rainwater has been a traditional source of drinking water in Thailand for centuries and was even encouraged under the rainwater jar project, there has been a growing sentiment that such water is dangerous. Unfortunately, there haven't been any significant national studies undertaken for a few years. Perhaps, without any alternatives, the powers that be, wish to let sleeping dogs lie. Here's an article from 2009; Rainwater 'no longer safe to drink' Rainwater in Thailand is no longer safe for consumption, especially in the coastal provinces in the East, due to rising level of acidity caused by toxins from factories and traffic smog. Citing a study sponsored by the Department of Pollution Control, a Kasetsart University lecturer said the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere had also risen, resulting in a change in the patฌtern and duration of the rainy season. Asst Prof Suntharee Khunthong, also from Kasetsart University, said rainwater in Chiang Mai was often contaminated by dust particles from forest fires, while rainฌwater in Ayutthaya was more alkaline due to the many cement plants based there. Wijarn Simachaya, a senior DPC official, said the level of acidity in rainwater in China was the highest among 11 Asian countries due mainly to massive coal minฌing operations. He added that the DPC sponsored research was conducted in five provinces in Thailand to further inspect the quality of rainwater. -- The Nation 2009-11-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 They should inspect the quality of the roofs that it comes off... We drink ours and never noticed any effects but guess there could be things occurring inside that we are unaware of ! I was thinking about getting a filter but not a 30k Amway rip off, being pusey on us by an Aunt Tastes sooooo much better than bottled though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat63 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Buy a filtering system with RO and ultraviolet light then the water is 100% safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaNim Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 The issue with drinking water from plastic bottles arises if they have been exposed to heat (as will happen if out in the sun). And it is more of concern with some types of plastic than others. I seem to recall a recent thread in this forum that discussed brands and which had the safer type of plastic, you can try a search for "plastic water bottle" in this forum.. I didn't read that thread but I understand that the clear bottles are much less likley to contaminate the water than the white opaque bottles. An with bottles that are re-used the rougher surface of the white bottles mean its harder to sanitize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 They should inspect the quality of the roofs that it comes off... We drink ours and never noticed any effects but guess there could be things occurring inside that we are unaware of ! I was thinking about getting a filter but not a 30k Amway rip off, being pusey on us by an Aunt Tastes sooooo much better than bottled though.... My filter (which is carbon plus silver nano) cost around 2000 baht or so if I recall correctly. Re the roof, key thing is not to open up the collection jars until after one or two first heavy rains of the season, since the first rains will carry off most of the debris. I would agree that may not be a good idea to drink rain water if you live in a city or near an industrial area, or at least that if doing it there filtration is essential. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzieslapper Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I can't see it right now, there is a thread on here I read about 6 months ago re filters and some people really knew their stuff. I see the Amway one mentioned here, in that thread it was mentioned that it does work, but it was about 6 times more expensive than the equivalent opposition ones. There was some really good info in that thread if anyone I better at searching than I am. I remember some points were, defiantly need the tank sealed from mosquitoes, best to keep light out to stop algae. The stand pipe at least 10cm from the the lowest point. I can't remember the filter info to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maprao Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) Post deleted. wrong place sorry. Edited July 10, 2012 by maprao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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