spidermike007 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 It does not matter that this university is one of Britain's worst. It will still far outshine the locals schools here, when it comes to English skills, which is sorely needed here. The educational standards here are some of the lowest in the developed world. What the Thai government, the educational apparatus, and the Educational Ministry are perpetrating onto the Thai people should be classified as a crime. Much improvement is needed. The entire educational structure need to be dismantled, and built up from stretch, using a model like they use in Malaysia, as an example. Much needs to be done, and there is little time to waste. Thailand was the 21st largest economy 5 years ago. Now, it is the 25th. They are losing their place in the world at an alarming rate, and if nothing is done, the lifestyle they have worked so hard to achieve will erode, and they will be surpassed even by such lowly neighbors at the Philippines, Burma, Laos, and Vietnam. Time is a wasting, and I do not see any leadership. I agree, but the problem lies with the idea. If it doesn't comes from the Thais they wont do it! Its about face not brains in this country. Ware a nice shirt you get the job, show some legs sign on the line. The culture and way of life are so intertwined that the two exist together as a whole. Its true the whole system needs to be scraped yesterday, but it will take a revolutionary visionary politician to achieve that, one that isn't phased by saving face or the massively uneducated public opinion. Face is simply a cowards approach to life. Let us now confront the underlying issue or problem. Let us hide behind a false sense of pride, and shame. It has little to do with reality. It is just this made up wall they hide behind. It is an excuse to not reflect on one's own issues, and to not do any inner work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLucifer Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I can visualise it now --- " Wercome to the Blitish Uniwersity ". Arr our teachERS serpeak wery good Engrish...and so on Would it not run along the lines of a proper international school, where the majority of academic staff are suitably qualified native speakers? I'd imagine so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLucifer Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I have never heard of The University of Central Lancashire and I was brought up in Lancashire. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules It's in Lancaster isn't it?? Preston, apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 UK, Cyprus and Thailand. Two bankrupt countries and one well on the way. What a pertinent point. Why bother with education in the face of the bankruptcy... I wonder quite how many of the bankers directly responsible for the economic crisis attended ex-Polytechnics and quite how many hold the same self absorbed, elitist views being spouted on here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelongshoot Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Thailand's policy is to establish the country as a regional centre for education. This means a significant expansion of facilities to attract students from around the world." ..............a hub! "We plan to provide a total 'British university' experience here for graduate and post-graduate studies Oh dear! Do the locals realise what the total British university experience is? "In phase one, we want to build a student population of 5,000. Of this number, about 20 per cent will come from Europe, as many have expressed interest in coming here. 1000 European uni students descending on Thailand to ..'study'! Mostly coming from the UK no doubt. I bet on reading this the people at the British embassy responsible for prison visits are having palpitations. Do you have anything remotley positive to say about this or are you going to be a complete misserable downer about the whole thing? I dont understand why so many TV posters are so bummed out with life. It genuinley confuses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 What a bunch of moronic comments. You guys really need to pull your heads out your own <deleted>. If you are shining examples of graduates from "real" British Unis you make a good case for avoiding such establishments... Polytechnic? Oh my god, how awful... I cringe at your comments. How out of touch are you people? Elitist muppets, the lot of you. The number of universities in Britain almost doubled this fall, as 38 former polytechnic schools or colleges changed status and names - ending a distinction that had more to do with the nation's deep-rooted class-consciousness than academic reality. For years, the polytechnics have been turning out some of Britain's best scientists and technologists - without neglecting the humanities and social sciences - while being seen by much of the general public as second best to the traditional universities.... many people looked down on the polytechnics "out of snobbery or ignorance." I don't think anyone is saying The University of Central Lancashire is not a good university just because it was formerly a polytechnic. The fact is standards vary between universities and are measured and compared via various rankings, none of which rank this university towards the top. Where would you prefer your children to study if they had a choice between Cambridge University or Anglia Ruskin University (formerly Anglia polytechnic)? Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules Really? The comments read like a bunch of elitist, immature private school boys pouring scorn on those less privileged, directed specifically at the fact that this University used to be a Polytechnic. You seem to have a selective memory, try reading back your own words. If this is any sort of indication of the outlook and level of maturity that establishments like Cambridge are nurturing in their students it's a sorry indication of how badly the ranking systems are devised. As a working class lad that was "fortunate" enough to gain a scholarship to a well known private school and witnessed the widespread idiocy and ignorance that's endemic in the private/ public school system in the UK, from which pool the vast majority of the top Universities select applicants, I feel well placed to say that these rankings are elitist BS, tailored to keep rich families paying exorbitant fees to send their spoilt little darlings to schools like Eaton, which in turn gives them much better chances of being selected for the higher ranked Universities. I agree with you 100%. Many of the top ranked universities are more for snob's with money. There are top rated people graduating all over the world from universities that are far more affordable. Why does it cost so much to the top ranked universities. The normal working class can not afford them. Are people saying only people with money can get a good education. How many employers will chose a employe with lesser abilities than one with better abilities if the one with the greater abilities comes from a no name collage and the one with the lesser abilities comes from Oxford Harvard Princeton you see where I am going . I am not talking about two candidates who are miles apart in ability just the ones who are relatively close in abilities. Coming from North America I can honestly say some of the dumbest people I have ever met have a collage degree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Couldn't they get one of those Kentucky universities to come to Thailand and hand out those degrees Thais can apparently get without hardly being able to speak English? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimShortz Posted July 12, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think this is great news. They may not be a top British university, but they will at least provide a real option for students of "international" backgrounds to study at an all English speaking campus with fees that their parents may be able to afford. Sending children abroad to study once they get to university age is not within everyone's means! It costs four arms and three legs (roughly!). At the moment the only all English speaking campus is the American university, Webster, down in Hua Hin. Not a bad option for some, but a very limited range of courses. Hopefully this new development will widen choice... Big Thai unis, such as Mahidol and Thamassat do have "international" programmes, but unfortunately all admin, and quite a bit of the teaching, is in Thai; so they are not really for students who do not have excellent Thai. Not quite the "international" programmes that they claim to be... As another poster mentioned, there are many international universities setting up in Malaysia, especially British and American universities, but not everyone wants to study in Malaysia. It is a very different society to Thailand and many girls especially are put off by the restrictions imposed by the expression of Muslim faith through clothing restrictions, etc. Malaysia is not to everyone's taste. I am very pleased to see real alternatives for obtaining an "international" degree right here in Thailand. Hoorah! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperion Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I wonder if it will be anything like Webster. Webster is a great university that want the American treatment (without the frat parties... only 200 - 300 undergrad students), but it was pretty expensive at $13000 USD per year. Also, the location out in Hua-Hin/Petchaburi is pretty boring for most people under the age of 30. We had some top notch American teachers, though, and unlike my stay at Bangkok University Inter, I felt like I was actually learning something. I only ever completed my general degree courses and dropped out to focus on opening my own business, but the international school is a good idea, so long as it is properly staffed. The only Thai teachers we had at Webster were the ones teaching computer science, Photography and Thai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) It's not so much "snobbery' and class consciousness, but rather their (UCLAN's) own conception of what a university constitutes, as here: We will focus on providing English programmes, IT, engineering, business management, fashion and design. That is the sort of stuff that used to get taught (no doubt competently) by technical colleges. The polytechnics were getting along quite nicely with their own business when Thatcher came along and imposed her own brand of class consciousness on the British university scene, converting all the polys into universities overnight, and thus revealing the shallowness of her own narcissistic mind. The Polytechnics weren't converted into Universities under Maggie Thatcher. Margaret Thatcher's reign as Prime Minister ended in 1990. The further and higher education act of 1992 brought about the change from Polytechnic to University and brought about the major change in that these institutions could award their own degrees, which formerly they couldn't, making them fully fledged Universities. It was primarily because of this former lack of degree-awarding powers that there was a general misconception that they were somehow inferior to "real" Universities. Some polytechnics were often seen as ranking below universities in the provision of higher education because they lacked degree-awarding powers, concentrated on applied education for work and had less research than the universities, and because the qualifications necessary to gain a place in one were lower than for a university (the failure rate in the first year of undergraduate courses was high due to a rigorous filtering process). However, in terms of an undergraduate education this was a misconception since many polytechnics offered academic degrees validated by the CNAA from bachelor and Masters degree to PhD research degrees. Also professional degrees in, for instance, engineering, town planning, law, and architecture were rigorously validated by various professional institutions. Many polytechnics argued that a CNAA degree was often superior to many university degrees, due to the external independent validation process employed by the CNAA, and innovations such as sandwich degrees. Such innovations made a Polytechnic education more relevant for professional work. http://en.wikipedia....United_Kingdom) Edited July 12, 2012 by Ferangled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I have never heard of The University of Central Lancashire and I was brought up in Lancashire. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I believe UCLan was once called Preston Polytechnic I can see why they opted to change the name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I have never heard of The University of Central Lancashire and I was brought up in Lancashire. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I believe UCLan was once called Preston Polytechnic I can see why they opted to change the name! Care to elaborate? Is your issue with Preston specifically or Polytechnics in general? The ignorance on display is tangible... this is the 5th largest Uni in the UK, yes it used to be a Polytechnic, as did the following Universities: Anglia Ruskin University, formerly Anglia Polytechnic (located in Cambridge and Chelmsford) Birmingham City University, formerly Birmingham Polytechnic University of Brighton, formerly Brighton Polytechnic Bournemouth University, formerly Bournemouth Polytechnic University of Central Lancashire, formerly Lancashire Polytechnic Coventry University, formerly Coventry Polytechnic De Montfort University, formerly Leicester Polytechnic University of East London, formerly Polytechnic of East London University of Greenwich, formerly Thames Polytechnic University of Hertfordshire, formerly Hatfield Polytechnic University of Huddersfield, formerly Huddersfield Polytechnic Kingston University, formerly Kingston Polytechnic Leeds Metropolitan University, formerly Leeds Polytechnic University of Lincoln, formerly Humberside Polytechnic Liverpool John Moores University, formerly Liverpool Polytechnic London Metropolitan University, formerly City of London Polytechnic and Polytechnic of North London Manchester Metropolitan University, formerly Manchester Polytechnic Middlesex University, formerly Middlesex Polytechnic University of Northumbria at Newcastle, formerly Newcastle Polytechnic Nottingham Trent University, formerly Trent Polytechnic (later Nottingham Polytechnic) Oxford Brookes University, formerly Oxford Polytechnic University of Plymouth, formerly Polytechnic South West University of Portsmouth, formerly Portsmouth Polytechnic Sheffield Hallam University, formerly Sheffield Polytechnic South Bank University, formerly South Bank Polytechnic (in London) Staffordshire University, formerly Staffordshire Polytechnic University of Sunderland, formerly Sunderland Polytechnic Teesside University, formerly Teesside Polytechnic Thames Valley University, formerly Polytechnic of West London University of the West of England, formerly Bristol Polytechnic University of Westminster, formerly Polytechnic of Central London and the Royal Polytechnic Institution University of Wolverhampton, formerly Wolverhampton Polytechnic Please feel free to pour scorn on them all because they are not called Oxford or Cambridge... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) I can visualise it now --- " Wercome to the Blitish Uniwersity ". Arr our teachERS serpeak wery good Engrish...and so on Would it not run along the lines of a proper international school, where the majority of academic staff are suitably qualified native speakers? I'd imagine so. I think it would but spending a few years in the Thai branch of what was Preston Poly will not be seen as a career enhancing move by high flying British academics. So they will inevitably have to fill gaps with teachers from places like India, Malaysia, the Philppines etc. They will also be under great pressure to dumb down admission standards and graduate everyone to conform with academics norms in the host country. Foreign students will come but more likely from Asia and Africa than Europe. Standards will be far lower than the UK but far higher than most Thai universities and students will also have to be fairly proficient in Englilsh. Look at Stamford in Cha Am as a model of what is likely to happen. Bear in mind that 6 passes at British GCSE are accepted by the Thai Education Ministry as equivalent to Thai Mor 6 school leavers and good enough for university entrance. That means that Thais educated in the UK can easily go to Chula and Thammasat aged 16 or 17 and quite a few do, although it seems a stupid move to avoid doing A levels for such a soft option. If the minstry accepts GCSE as equivalent to Thai Mor 6 the reality is probably a lot worse than that. Thai bachelors degrees often seem to be about A level standard or less. English majors are often still learning grammar from multiple choice type text books with childish illustrations in year 4 and they graduate without ever having read an English novel, play or poem or knowing who Shakespeare was. Compare that with what modern language student do in their final years at UK universities when it assumed they are fluent in the target language from year 1 and are expected to be able read and criticise copious volumes of literary works in that language including in medieval and other older forms of the language. Edited July 12, 2012 by Arkady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I have never heard of The University of Central Lancashire and I was brought up in Lancashire. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I believe UCLan was once called Preston Polytechnic Must say I have never heard of it so it must be some third rate (ex Poly) establishment - perfect for Thailand then I have no idea where Preston is in England and I have never heard it mentioned anywhere as a place of learning or importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I have never heard of The University of Central Lancashire and I was brought up in Lancashire. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I believe UCLan was once called Preston Polytechnic I can see why they opted to change the name! Care to elaborate? Is your issue with Preston specifically or Polytechnics in general? Both actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBD Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Personally I welcome this as a good move that hopefully will see a raising of the educational bar in Thailand. Surely increasing the number of educational establishments and the diversity of them here is a positive thing... although reading the majority of comments I struggle to see that anything would be welcomed as a positive move unless it involved free beer and viagra... Even if the standards are no better than most existing Thai universities I would have thought that the fact they will be teaching courses in English, would be a great bonus for those seeking to work outside of Thailand in the future. With the preconceptions attached to Thailand, as expressed so succinctly on here daily, I expect many students would prefer to hold a degree from a British Uni as opposed to a Thai one, just to escape the stigma. I don't think the number of educational institutions in Thailand is the problem - there seem to be hundreds. It's more what happens in them and how Thai people as a whole view education that I see as the problem. By way of improving Thailand's overall education system I would rather they said let's make Chula truly world class and drag the rest up from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guru Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 5 (i)GCCEs are enough for entrance to thai universities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I can see why they opted to change the name! Care to elaborate? Is your issue with Preston specifically or Polytechnics in general? Both actually Thanks for clarifying that, good to know that your comments are based purely on bigotry and not substance or facts... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I can visualise it now --- " Wercome to the Blitish Uniwersity ". Arr our teachERS serpeak wery good Engrish...and so on Would it not run along the lines of a proper international school, where the majority of academic staff are suitably qualified native speakers? I'd imagine so. I think it would but spending a few years in the Thai branch of what was Preston Poly will not be seen as a career enhancing move by high flying British academics. So they will inevitably have to fill gaps with teachers from places like India, Malaysia, the Philppines etc. They will also be under great pressure to dumb down admission standards and graduate everyone to conform with academics norms in the host country. Foreign students will come but more likely from Asia and Africa than Europe. Standards will be far lower than the UK but far higher than most Thai universities and students will also have to be fairly proficient in Englilsh. Look at Stamford in Cha Am as a model of what is likely to happen. So we can add racist as another one of your qualities... God forbid, teachers from places like India, Malaysia, the Philippines etc? Next they'll be employing doctors and nurses from these countries in the UK, to make up for the shortage in suitable UK applicants... err.. hang on? Students from Asia and Africa? It just gets worse, doesn't anyone realise that these people are sub standard and don't deserve any higher education? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpkin Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 UK, Cyprus and Thailand. Two bankrupt countries and one well on the way. What a pertinent point. Why bother with education in the face of the bankruptcy... I wonder quite how many of the bankers directly responsible for the economic crisis attended ex-Polytechnics and quite how many hold the same self absorbed, elitist views being spouted on here... 'Sir' Fred Goodwin whose time as CEO saw the fall of Royal Bank of Scotland, is the son of an electrician and a grammar school boy, , who won a scholarship to Glasgow University. What''s your point? He achieved entry to a prestigeous University on his own merits, not because of family connections. History wil probably show he was reponsible for one of the larger banking collapses in British banking history What life shows, there are successes and failures at all levels and from all backgrounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 UK, Cyprus and Thailand. Two bankrupt countries and one well on the way. What a pertinent point. Why bother with education in the face of the bankruptcy... I wonder quite how many of the bankers directly responsible for the economic crisis attended ex-Polytechnics and quite how many hold the same self absorbed, elitist views being spouted on here... 'Sir' Fred Goodwin whose time as CEO saw the fall of Royal Bank of Scotland, is the son of an electrician and a grammar school boy, , who won a scholarship to Glasgow University. What''s your point? He achieved entry to a prestigeous University on his own merits, not because of family connections. History wil probably show he was reponsible for one of the larger banking collapses in British banking history What life shows, there are successes and failures at all levels and from all backgrounds. Sorry what's yours?! Mine was that just because you went to a well known University doesn't mean you are necessarily any better than someone who attended a Polytechnic turned University. In fact looking at those responsible for the economic crash (not something I brought into the topic as relevant, because quite clearly it isn't), the reverse seems to be true, as those showing excessive greed, selfishness and ignorance to the extent it has rocked the entire world economy are in fact not the product of the ex-Polys but a result of the more internationally recognised elitist establishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubbkis Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I have never heard of The University of Central Lancashire and I was brought up in Lancashire. Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules I believe it was called Preston Polytechnic before Lancashire Polytechnic before it became Uclan, Hanoi already has the British University of Vietnam and they offer degrees based on the University of London External Programme, using a business model based on those developed for non-bumipteras just North of Singapore. In certain subjects e.g. Accounting, IT British education is highly prized whereas the expense and joy of relocating to Singapore, London, Preston or even Pontypridd may not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudolus Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Personally I welcome this as a good move that hopefully will see a raising of the educational bar in Thailand. Surely increasing the number of educational establishments and the diversity of them here is a positive thing... although reading the majority of comments I struggle to see that anything would be welcomed as a positive move unless it involved free beer and viagra... Even if the standards are no better than most existing Thai universities I would have thought that the fact they will be teaching courses in English, would be a great bonus for those seeking to work outside of Thailand in the future. With the preconceptions attached to Thailand, as expressed so succinctly on here daily, I expect many students would prefer to hold a degree from a British Uni as opposed to a Thai one, just to escape the stigma. Brace yourself Buddy....it's me again.... and.... I completely agree with you. This can only possibly be a good thing for all concerned. I have been considering myself taking a course in something or other, but never liked the idea of going through the Thai university system due to standards of tuition (learn by rote as opposed to critical discussion) as well as the language. Sure they are a piss pot uni but they will hopefully run a solid curriculum, and as I would be doing the course for fun more than anything else, it would be just the ticket. Also, due to the bribery and corruption laws in the UK where the Dean there can be chucked in jail if anything untoward occurs, I should think it would be squeaky clean. I wonder if the uniforms will be the same though? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 A Thai Professor, who studied at several British Universities of repute, states categorically that the only University in Thailand that really offers an internationally accepted degree standard is Sasin in Chulalongkorn University. From my experience as an Employer, I would agree with him. Secondly in my experience also as an Employer in the UK for 30 years is that the Polytechnics such as Preston (now University of Central Lancasthire), turned out far better graduates with a much broader knowledge and hands on experience. You should also be aware that seats of learning similar to Preston started out as Universities, then the Government changed them to Polytechnics and a few years ago were changed back to Universities. The University of Central Lancashire was granted its University Status by Royal Decree in 1992. Historically it specialises in the Arts and Journalism. It is the 5th largest University in the UK based on the number of students. Thailand needs to raise its standard of Education to compete not only in Asean but in the Global Market. The establishment of this University is surely a good thing. Don't forget it will be majority Thai owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Personally I welcome this as a good move that hopefully will see a raising of the educational bar in Thailand. Surely increasing the number of educational establishments and the diversity of them here is a positive thing... although reading the majority of comments I struggle to see that anything would be welcomed as a positive move unless it involved free beer and viagra... Even if the standards are no better than most existing Thai universities I would have thought that the fact they will be teaching courses in English, would be a great bonus for those seeking to work outside of Thailand in the future. With the preconceptions attached to Thailand, as expressed so succinctly on here daily, I expect many students would prefer to hold a degree from a British Uni as opposed to a Thai one, just to escape the stigma. Brace yourself Buddy....it's me again.... and.... I completely agree with you. This can only possibly be a good thing for all concerned. I have been considering myself taking a course in something or other, but never liked the idea of going through the Thai university system due to standards of tuition (learn by rote as opposed to critical discussion) as well as the language. Sure they are a piss pot uni but they will hopefully run a solid curriculum, and as I would be doing the course for fun more than anything else, it would be just the ticket. Also, due to the bribery and corruption laws in the UK where the Dean there can be chucked in jail if anything untoward occurs, I should think it would be squeaky clean. I wonder if the uniforms will be the same though? I doubt they'd appreciate being called a piss pot Uni as the 5th largest in the UK but I'm sure they'd appreciate your enthusiasm to enrol! Perhaps I'm just terribly naive but I just can't see the negatives here. I can't help but wonder if the reaction would have been different had it been Oxford... and quite how that would have benefited the Thai populace unable to apply for any course without sufficient A level grades... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudolus Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) Personally I welcome this as a good move that hopefully will see a raising of the educational bar in Thailand. Surely increasing the number of educational establishments and the diversity of them here is a positive thing... although reading the majority of comments I struggle to see that anything would be welcomed as a positive move unless it involved free beer and viagra... Even if the standards are no better than most existing Thai universities I would have thought that the fact they will be teaching courses in English, would be a great bonus for those seeking to work outside of Thailand in the future. With the preconceptions attached to Thailand, as expressed so succinctly on here daily, I expect many students would prefer to hold a degree from a British Uni as opposed to a Thai one, just to escape the stigma. Brace yourself Buddy....it's me again.... and.... I completely agree with you. This can only possibly be a good thing for all concerned. I have been considering myself taking a course in something or other, but never liked the idea of going through the Thai university system due to standards of tuition (learn by rote as opposed to critical discussion) as well as the language. Sure they are a piss pot uni but they will hopefully run a solid curriculum, and as I would be doing the course for fun more than anything else, it would be just the ticket. Also, due to the bribery and corruption laws in the UK where the Dean there can be chucked in jail if anything untoward occurs, I should think it would be squeaky clean. I wonder if the uniforms will be the same though? I doubt they'd appreciate being called a piss pot Uni as the 5th largest in the UK but I'm sure they'd appreciate your enthusiasm to enrol! Perhaps I'm just terribly naive but I just can't see the negatives here. I can't help but wonder if the reaction would have been different had it been Oxford... and quite how that would have benefited the Thai populace unable to apply for any course without sufficient A level grades... The USA has the 2nd biggest army in the world and they are certainly not the best (or even 2nd best) by a long chalk. Lancs is the 70th best, out of 100 and something. Might be the biggest but that counts for nothing. If it had have been Oxford, everyone would be negative still, but based upon costs instead. It's all good though. Edited July 12, 2012 by Pseudolus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Brace yourself Buddy....it's me again.... and.... I completely agree with you. This can only possibly be a good thing for all concerned. I have been considering myself taking a course in something or other, but never liked the idea of going through the Thai university system due to standards of tuition (learn by rote as opposed to critical discussion) as well as the language. Sure they are a piss pot uni but they will hopefully run a solid curriculum, and as I would be doing the course for fun more than anything else, it would be just the ticket. Also, due to the bribery and corruption laws in the UK where the Dean there can be chucked in jail if anything untoward occurs, I should think it would be squeaky clean. I wonder if the uniforms will be the same though? I doubt they'd appreciate being called a piss pot Uni as the 5th largest in the UK but I'm sure they'd appreciate your enthusiasm to enrol! Perhaps I'm just terribly naive but I just can't see the negatives here. I can't help but wonder if the reaction would have been different had it been Oxford... and quite how that would have benefited the Thai populace unable to apply for any course without sufficient A level grades... The USA has the 2nd biggest army in the world and they are certainly not the best (or even 2nd best) by a long chalk. Lancs is the 70th best, out of 100 and something. Might be the biggest but that counts for nothing. Didn't take long... I was under the impression that "piss pot" meant small, insignificant... perhaps I miss understood you and you were actually calling them a toilet, a toilet where you intend to study... I guess that figures! Incidentally I see piss pot is also an island in West Virginia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Pot_Island ... only in the the land of the brave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paully Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Joking aside, I actually think this plan will be a (commercial) success, and could well represent a new trend. Agreed. I think it's a clever move by the university. Of course it's mainly about the money, why wouldn't it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Haha, are they going to bring the world famous British weather with them for a truly authentic experience Trying to think hard what mid Lancashire is famous for; large flat fields full of potatoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Haha, are they going to bring the world famous British weather with them for a truly authentic experience Trying to think hard what mid Lancashire is famous for; large flat fields full of potatoes? ...and Andrew Flintoff Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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