bkkjames Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 That would depend on whether you are Malay, Chinese, or Indian in extraction. My comment on Singaporeans was meant to refer to Chinese Singaporeans only. I see. I'm a Singaporean of Indian descent. Then to Thais you are an Indian, nothing more / nothing less. Hmm. But going there every 3 months over the past couple of years, I've never experienced any stereotypical behavior towards me. Especially not in the English-speaking Thai circles but maybe that's a different kind of community. Recently I've learnt to speak Thai as well, so I've been speaking more often to Thais who don't speak English. And similarly I haven't had any negative experiences based on me being "Indian". then <deleted> are you asking us about what thais think of singaporeans for then, you speak thai, go ask then yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chads Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) then <deleted> are you asking us about what thais think of singaporeans for then, you speak thai, go ask then yourself. Haha! You should relax, maybe drink a glass of water. Anyway as I mentioned I've had no problems so far in dealing with Thais who speak English, so I wanted to know if there is something that others here know that I don't.Also, I've only recently learnt to speak Thai. But yes, I'll ask them myself too. Edited July 24, 2012 by Chads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 then <deleted> are you asking us about what thais think of singaporeans for then, you speak thai, go ask then yourself. Haha! You should relax, maybe drink a glass of water. Anyway as I mentioned I've had no problems so far in dealing with Thais who speak English, so I wanted to know if there is something that others here know that I don't.Also, I've only recently learnt to speak Thai. But yes, I'll ask them myself too. i think one thing they really dont like about singaporeans is starting topics as useless as asking farangs what we think Thais think of singaporeans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chads Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 then <deleted> are you asking us about what thais think of singaporeans for then, you speak thai, go ask then yourself. Haha! You should relax, maybe drink a glass of water. Anyway as I mentioned I've had no problems so far in dealing with Thais who speak English, so I wanted to know if there is something that others here know that I don't.Also, I've only recently learnt to speak Thai. But yes, I'll ask them myself too. i think one thing they really dont like about singaporeans is starting topics as useless as asking farangs what we think Thais think of singaporeans.... Or maybe take more walks out in the sun? I hear that helps too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chads Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 As noted above, perceived status and manners trump ethnic stereotypes every time. If you appear and behave in a way that communicates that you are a quality person, that is the way they will treat you. Hmm yes, I believe I've been polite to everyone I meet. And thank you for being nice too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLucifer Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral... Mr and Mrs are honorifics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral... Mr and Mrs are honorifics too. Whatever you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThailandExpert Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 then <deleted> are you asking us about what thais think of singaporeans for then, you speak thai, go ask then yourself. Haha! You should relax, maybe drink a glass of water. Anyway as I mentioned I've had no problems so far in dealing with Thais who speak English, so I wanted to know if there is something that others here know that I don't.Also, I've only recently learnt to speak Thai. But yes, I'll ask them myself too. i think one thing they really dont like about singaporeans is starting topics as useless as asking farangs what we think Thais think of singaporeans.... Your high post count concerns me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardenedSoul Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ok, troll's rocked up; time to ditch the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ok, troll's rocked up; time to ditch the thread. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 then <deleted> are you asking us about what thais think of singaporeans for then, you speak thai, go ask then yourself. Haha! You should relax, maybe drink a glass of water. Anyway as I mentioned I've had no problems so far in dealing with Thais who speak English, so I wanted to know if there is something that others here know that I don't.Also, I've only recently learnt to speak Thai. But yes, I'll ask them myself too. i think one thing they really dont like about singaporeans is starting topics as useless as asking farangs what we think Thais think of singaporeans.... Your high post count concerns me. Perhaps you haven't read enough here yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotime Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) I'll try to be more sensible, but try to read between the lines. I'll be more direct, and not as cynical, but it's not easy. How'd we get to singaporeans? Everybody needs some group to dislike till they get to known you personally, or, at least, casually. Then it can go either way. So, it comes down to who you are, not where you're from. That even goes for those from the Empire. Edited July 24, 2012 by Shotime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLucifer Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ok, troll's rocked up; time to ditch the thread. Yup. Read the thread back. Guilty of responding to a troll post, fair enough. Guilty of starting it, no. Back on topic now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral... Mr and Mrs are honorifics too. All this time I thought that were descriptives. Mr applies to a man, Miss to a single woman, Mrs to amarried woman, Ms for the PC crowd. Dr for a medical doctor or also a Doctorate level degree and so on ... Where Khun was a title bestowed at our respect to either sex, though more commonly used to show respect to a male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeandDow Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral... Mr and Mrs are honorifics too. All this time I thought that were descriptives. Mr applies to a man, Miss to a single woman, Mrs to amarried woman, Ms for the PC crowd. Dr for a medical doctor or also a Doctorate level degree and so on ... Where Khun was a title bestowed at our respect to either sex, though more commonly used to show respect to a male. It can mean like Mister: Khun John (Mister John)It is a polite way of saying "you": khun ja pai nai (where are you going) It can be very formal or polite meaning like Sir: Khun Tun (Respected Sir; Tun is a polite word indicating social superiority) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral, and do not correspond to "khun", but to "nai" and "nang". 'Nai' and 'nang' haven't been used in normal every day speech by anyone except for news readers and funeral directors for decades and decades. Edited July 24, 2012 by Trembly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral... Mr and Mrs are honorifics too. All this time I thought that were descriptives. Mr applies to a man, Miss to a single woman, Mrs to amarried woman, Ms for the PC crowd. Dr for a medical doctor or also a Doctorate level degree and so on ... Where Khun was a title bestowed at our respect to either sex, though more commonly used to show respect to a male. <off topic shield on> Sorry but that's just utter horrocks. Khun is used for anyone who is deemed as commanding a bit of respect in any given situation at any time or place, including when ordinary folk feel like being courteous to each other without in any way implying higher or lesser status, for example : "Excuse me! Khun, you dropped this . . . ". Gender has got nothing to do with it. <off topic shield off> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Khun is used for anyone who is deemed as commanding a bit of respect in any given situation at any time or place, including when ordinary folk feel like being courteous to each other without in any way implying higher or lesser status, for example : "Excuse me! Khun, you dropped this . . . ". Gender has got nothing to do with it. My gf arrives in a week so if this thread is still open, happy to reply if she has different information. But also happy to accept if I am wrong. I don't have an ego about these types of things ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 then <deleted> are you asking us about what thais think of singaporeans for then, you speak thai, go ask then yourself. Haha! You should relax, maybe drink a glass of water. Anyway as I mentioned I've had no problems so far in dealing with Thais who speak English, so I wanted to know if there is something that others here know that I don't.Also, I've only recently learnt to speak Thai. But yes, I'll ask them myself too. i think one thing they really dont like about singaporeans is starting topics as useless as asking farangs what we think Thais think of singaporeans.... Your high post count concerns me. Yes, it concerns me also, what to do about it Self Appointed Thailand Expert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 What is the point with this thread ? I have been told that Scandinavians are more popular among Thai girls , because of our natural good looks. And we have the money too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 What is the point with this thread ? I have been told that Scandinavians are more popular among Thai girls , because of our natural good looks. And we have the money too . That's what I've been told as well, though in my case it was Scots. Or Turks. depending on what nationality I claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 What is the point with this thread ? I have been told that Scandinavians are more popular among Thai girls , because of our natural good looks. And we have the money too . That's what I've been told as well, though in my case it was Scots. Or Turks. depending on what nationality I claim. What would Iman have to say in this situation? I wouldn't wish to speculate ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 What is the point with this thread ? I have been told that Scandinavians are more popular among Thai girls , because of our natural good looks. And we have the money too . That's what I've been told as well, though in my case it was Scots. Or Turks. depending on what nationality I claim. What would Iman have to say in this situation? I wouldn't wish to speculate ... Exackly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Speaking of speculation and respected foreigners ... I wonder how the two lone Scotsmen, trekking the wilds of Chiang Mai are being embraced by the native population? Care to speculate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Speaking of speculation and respected foreigners ... I wonder how the two lone Scotsmen, trekking the wilds of Chiang Mai are being embraced by the native population? Care to speculate? Perhaps we could set up a separate thread for speculation, as I know it is of some interest to those on the moneygrubbing forum, and as well as those interested in the fates of our Caledonian coposters. We may also speculate from time to time on the identity of the video referee - a rather pointless exercise, as Messrs Rooney and French highlighted, in a conversation quoted in another thread. SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Speaking of speculation and respected foreigners ... I wonder how the two lone Scotsmen, trekking the wilds of Chiang Mai are being embraced by the native population? Care to speculate? Perhaps we could set up a separate thread for speculation, as I know it is of some interest to those on the moneygrubbing forum, and as well as those interested in the fates of our Caledonian coposters. We may also speculate from time to time on the identity of the video referee - a rather pointless exercise, as Messrs Rooney and French highlighted, in a conversation quoted in another thread. SC Caledonian coposters ... How do we make that stick? Maybe the video referee (or the 3rd Unpire as we say in Australia) has captured some footage of them somewhere ... or is that merely speculation. Relevance to the OP ... tangible proof of them as a sub-species, i.e. of the Caledonian coposter variety, being respected, or not ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral, and do not correspond to "khun", but to "nai" and "nang". 'Nai' and 'nang' haven't been used in normal every day speech by anyone except for news readers and funeral directors for decades and decades. The question is whether or not a foreigner in Thailand referring to HIMSELF in Thailand as "Khun John" is the same as a Thai overseas referring to himself as "Mr. Wattanakul". It's not. You shouldn't refer to yourself using "Khun", while it is very common and acceptable to refer to oneself as "Mr." ("Hi, I have a reservation for six, I'm Mr. Smith"). Got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Explain how. "Khun" is an honorific. "Mr." and "Mrs." are neutral, and do not correspond to "khun", but to "nai" and "nang". 'Nai' and 'nang' haven't been used in normal every day speech by anyone except for news readers and funeral directors for decades and decades. The question is whether or not a foreigner in Thailand referring to HIMSELF in Thailand as "Khun John" is the same as a Thai overseas referring to himself as "Mr. Wattanakul". It's not. You shouldn't refer to yourself using "Khun", while it is very common and acceptable to refer to oneself as "Mr." ("Hi, I have a reservation for six, I'm Mr. Smith"). Got it? Khun is perfectly acceptable if you speak comfortable Thai. It only sounds stupid if you're trying to be serious when you only seem to speak about 17 words of Thai that is intelligible to anyone, one of them being Khun. Unless one is attempting to make a clarification one does not refer to oneself by one's honorific without sounding like a retard anyway. 'Watdee khrab, dai jong tee wai samrab 6 mong khrab, chue Smith khrab / Hello, I have a reservation for six, the name's Smith. Kha, Khun John Smith na kha . . . choen daan nee kha / Mr. John Smith? Certainly sir, this way please. Certainly not nai or nang as you suggested as the analogue for Mr. or Mrs. That would be the Thai equivalent of verbally referring to yourself as "Mr. John Smith, Esquire". Clear? Edited July 25, 2012 by Trembly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Khun is perfectly acceptable if you speak comfortable Thai. Really? You think it's acceptable to refer to oneself as "Khun John"? "Hi, I'm Khun John. Nice to meet you." Really now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Khun is perfectly acceptable if you speak comfortable Thai. Really? You think it's acceptable to refer to oneself as "Khun John"? "Hi, I'm Khun John. Nice to meet you." Really now? Comprehension fail. Re-read my previous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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