Appeals Court Slaps Suspended Jail Term On Suthep For Defaming Prommin

[Lite Beer]

Appeals Court slaps suspended jail term on Suthep for defaming Prommin

BANGKOK: -- The Court of Appeals Tuesday slapped a suspended four-month jail term and a Bt2,000 fine on former Democrat Party secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban for defaming former Thai Rak Thai executive Prommin Lertsuridej.

The court overturned the Criminal Court's decision to acquit Suthep in a case related to the April 2 2006 general election.

The Appeals Court also reminded Suthep as a senior politician to be cautious when making a public statement.

Prommin filed a lawsuit with the Criminal Court naming the Democrat Party, Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, then Democrat secretary-general Suthep and then Democrat spokesman Ong-art Klampaibool as the first, second, third and fourth defendants respectively.

The suit alleged that Suthep held a press conference on March 16 to allege that there was an influential group that that interfered in the holding of the April 2 election.

-- The Nation 2012-07-24

[thaicbr]

But there were influential groups. They were the political parties paying for votes. Allegedly

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[Buchholz]

wow.... this case goes back.

Dug out from Thaivisa's archives.

and, but, of course, Thai Rak Thai was not involved in any fraud....

Posted by Jai Dee on 2006-03-22 11:09:20 in Thailand News

Latest Developments on the Election Front

A lawsuit has been filed against the Democrat Party, the party leader, and 4 other people, who charged that the Thai Rak Thai party is involved in election fraud

Sittikorn Yampantanai, representing Deputy Secretary-General of the Thai Rak Thai Party Prommin Lertsuridej filed lawsuits with the criminal court against the Democrat party, its leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, Secretary-general of the Democrat party Sutep Tuagsuban, and spokesperson Ong-art Klampaiboon for libel charges.

He said that the 5 defendants held a press conference defaming the plaintiff, saying that they have evidence and witnesses indicating that the Thai Rak Thai party is involved in election fraud.

He said that the charges state that the Thai Rak Thai party threatened and paid money for small parties to field candidates in the election, adding that the defendants mentioned the names of Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya and deputy secretary-general Pongsak Raktapongpaisal.

Sittikorn said that the charges are false, aimed at misleading voters that the Thai Rak Thai party cheated in the election.

The court accepted the petition and ordered a hearing on May 22 at 9AM.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 22 March 2006

historical footnote:

TRT was banned for electoral fraud which did involve evidence against the aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya.

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Edited July 24, 2012 by Buchholz

[thaicbr]

But the facts don't matter its the accusations that matter. According tp the court that information was not known so it was defamation ( even though they now know it was TRUE) it beggars belief

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[h90]

But the facts don't matter its the accusations that matter. According tp the court that information was not known so it was defamation ( even though they now know it was TRUE) it beggars belief

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[waza]

Amazing Thailand, democracy in action.

[Buchholz]

But the facts don't matter its the accusations that matter. According tp the court that information was not known so it was defamation ( even though they now know it was TRUE) it beggars belief

After the ruling, Prommin said the court's verdict could serve as a lesson for people to be careful not to infringe on the rights of others when expressing their opinion.

Additional information not included in the OP is that the Appeals Court upheld the Criminal Court's acquittal of the other co-defendants.

Additionally, Abhisit has said that the Party would appeal the verdict to the Supreme Court on behalf of Suthep.

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Edited July 24, 2012 by Buchholz

[carra]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

[chotthee]

But the facts don't matter its the accusations that matter. According tp the court that information was not known so it was defamation ( even though they now know it was TRUE) it beggars belief

After the ruling, Prommin said the court's verdict could serve as a lesson for people to be careful not to infringe on the rights of others when expressing their opinion.

Additional information not included in the OP is that the Appeals Court upheld the Criminal Court's acquittal of the other co-defendants.

Additionally, Abhisit has said that the Party would appeal the verdict to the Supreme Court on behalf of Suthep.

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The fat lady has not sung.

[noahvail]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

So, he was rightly found innocent in the orignal case, then? And then there was an appeal... and now that ruling will be appealed. Hardly the end of the story, just another short chapter before the final one.

[carra]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

So, he was rightly found innocent in the orignal case, then? And then there was an appeal... and now that ruling will be appealed. Hardly the end of the story, just another short chapter before the final one.

Who was in power when he was found innocent originally?

[thaicbr]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

Guilty of what .. telling the truth?????????????????????????

[animatic]

wow.... this case goes back.

Dug out from Thaivisa's archives.

and, but, of course, Thai Rak Thai was not involved in any fraud....

Posted by Jai Dee on 2006-03-22 11:09:20 in Thailand News

Latest Developments on the Election Front

A lawsuit has been filed against the Democrat Party, the party leader, and 4 other people, who charged that the Thai Rak Thai party is involved in election fraud

Sittikorn Yampantanai, representing Deputy Secretary-General of the Thai Rak Thai Party Prommin Lertsuridej filed lawsuits with the criminal court against the Democrat party, its leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, Secretary-general of the Democrat party Sutep Tuagsuban, and spokesperson Ong-art Klampaiboon for libel charges.

He said that the 5 defendants held a press conference defaming the plaintiff, saying that they have evidence and witnesses indicating that the Thai Rak Thai party is involved in election fraud.

He said that the charges state that the Thai Rak Thai party threatened and paid money for small parties to field candidates in the election, adding that the defendants mentioned the names of Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya and deputy secretary-general Pongsak Raktapongpaisal.

Sittikorn said that the charges are false, aimed at misleading voters that the Thai Rak Thai party cheated in the election.

The court accepted the petition and ordered a hearing on May 22 at 9AM.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 22 March 2006

historical footnote:

TRT was banned for electoral fraud which did involve evidence against the aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya.

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This will go up another rung, and likely the actual outcome vs TRT, will reveres this courts reversal.

This seems a narrow bid against one man vs Suthep, alleging he was 'personally defamed'

because as a party leader he was attached to another party leaders misdeeds.

I wonder if they will release their rational for this reversal. I so far do not see it.

[animatic]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

Guilty of what .. telling the truth?????????????????????????

Well the TELLING THE TRUTH, is apparently NOT A DEFENSE,

against defaming someone who has done actually what is stated,

in Thailand, as absurd as that sounds.

[Thai at Heart]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

Guilty of what .. telling the truth?????????????????????????

A perfect sample of where the truth does not set u free. It is as though, trekking someone they have their fly undone is wrong.

[noahvail]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

So, he was rightly found innocent in the orignal case, then? And then there was an appeal... and now that ruling will be appealed. Hardly the end of the story, just another short chapter before the final one.

Who was in power when he was found innocent originally?

I'll answer that with another question: Who was in power when the innocent verdict was reversed?

See how silly that comment of yours is?

[BrianCR]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

Hear, hear , i couldn;t agree more however, TV posters will (with their insider knowledge) end up blaming Thaksin!!! (Makes them feel good)

[waza]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

Hear, hear , i couldn;t agree more however, TV posters will (with their insider knowledge) end up blaming Thaksin!!! (Makes them feel good)

Your the only one who has mentioned thaksin. Do you feel good?

Edited July 24, 2012 by waza

[Buchholz]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

So, he was rightly found innocent in the orignal case, then? And then there was an appeal... and now that ruling will be appealed. Hardly the end of the story, just another short chapter before the final one.

And if the 2006 case took this long to get to the Appeals Court, we won't know the ending in the final chapter until around 2017 or so.

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Edited July 24, 2012 by Buchholz

[scorecard]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

No, not end of story at all. Somehow you seem to make a habit of twisting things into another picture.

[Buchholz]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

Hear, hear , i couldn;t agree more however, TV posters will (with their insider knowledge) end up blaming Thaksin!!! (Makes them feel good)

It doesn't require any insider knowledge.

It does require the ability to read what the alleged defamation was in 2006 and then reading subsequent articles that over the years proved the alleged defamation to be absolutely true.

No one has blamed Thaksin until you did, but people can rightly put blame on Prommin for he was knee deep in the electoral fraud that ended up dissolving the political party that he was Deputy Party Leader of.

He is the one that brought the defamation suit against people that were simply stating what was eventually proven to be absolutely true.

.

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Edited July 24, 2012 by Buchholz

[phiphidon]

wow.... this case goes back.

Dug out from Thaivisa's archives.

and, but, of course, Thai Rak Thai was not involved in any fraud....

old irrelevant post snipped

historical footnote:

TRT was banned for electoral fraud which did involve evidence against the aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya.

.

But not obvously evidence against Thai Rak Thai executive Prommin Lertsuridej who was defamed and about whom this story is centred

and not the "aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya." who is not mentioned in the OP at all, but just in one of your search programs historical articles you drag up from Thai Visa whenever you get half a chance - it is as if somebody gives you a tip off.................

Anyway, Glad we cleared that up...................

[webfact]

Appeals Court slaps suspended jail term on Suthep for defaming Prommin

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- The Court of Appeals yesterday slapped a suspended four-month jail sentence and a Bt2,000 fine on former Democrat Party secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban for defaming former Thai Rak Thai executive Prommin Lertsuridej.

The court also overturned the Criminal Court's acquittal of Suthep in a case related to the April 2, 2006 general election. The Appeals Court also reminded Suthep that as a senior politician he should be cautious when making a public statement.

Prommin filed a lawsuit with the Criminal Court naming the Democrat Party, its leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, then party secretary-general Suthep and then party spokesman Ong-art Klampaibool as first, second, third and fourth defendants respectively.

The suit alleged that Suthep had held a press conference on March 16 to allege that an influential group was interfering in the April 2 election.

The Criminal Court acquitted the four defendants on grounds that Suthep had a witness who testified that he overheard Prommin saying small parties were hired to contest in the election.

But the Appeals Court ruled that Suthep should have backed his allegations with facts instead of using hearsay that damaged the Prommin's reputation. However, it acquitted the Democrat Party, Abhisit and Ong-art on grounds that they did not take part in the press conference.

Initially, the Appeals Court sentenced Suthep to six months in jail and a Bt3,000 fine but commuted the penalties by a third on grounds that his testimony was useful for the trial.

The court suspended the jail term for one year and ordered Suthep to publish the ruling on Page 1 or Page 3 of the Daily News, Thai Rath and Matichon newspapers for three consecutive days.

-- The Nation 2012-07-25

[Buchholz]

wow.... this case goes back.

Dug out from Thaivisa's archives.

and, but, of course, Thai Rak Thai was not involved in any fraud....

Posted by Jai Dee on 2006-03-22 11:09:20 in Thailand News

Latest Developments on the Election Front

A lawsuit has been filed against the Democrat Party, the party leader, and 4 other people, who charged that the Thai Rak Thai party is involved in election fraud

Sittikorn Yampantanai, representing Deputy Secretary-General of the Thai Rak Thai Party Prommin Lertsuridej filed lawsuits with the criminal court against the Democrat party, its leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, Secretary-general of the Democrat party Sutep Tuagsuban, and spokesperson Ong-art Klampaiboon for libel charges.

He said that the 5 defendants held a press conference defaming the plaintiff, saying that they have evidence and witnesses indicating that the Thai Rak Thai party is involved in election fraud.

He said that the charges state that the Thai Rak Thai party threatened and paid money for small parties to field candidates in the election, adding that the defendants mentioned the names of Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya and deputy secretary-general Pongsak Raktapongpaisal.

Sittikorn said that the charges are false, aimed at misleading voters that the Thai Rak Thai party cheated in the election.

The court accepted the petition and ordered a hearing on May 22 at 9AM.

Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 22 March 2006

historical footnote:

TRT was banned for electoral fraud which did involve evidence against the aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya.

But not obvously evidence against Thai Rak Thai executive Prommin Lertsuridej who was defamed and about whom this story is centred

and not the "aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya." who is not mentioned in the OP at all, but just in one of your search programs historical articles you drag up from Thai Visa whenever you get half a chance - it is as if somebody gives you a tip off.................

Anyway, Glad we cleared that up...................

hahaha... rather a Noppadon-ish approach there, Phiphidon.

The original charge is now "irrelevant".... *good one*

Prommin was suing on behalf of the Thai Rak Thai Party that he was Deputy Party Leader. He was claiming the good name of Thai Rak Thai Party (and himself) was besmirched..... although the accusations turned out to be absolutely true.

What's wrong with using the wonderful resource available on Thaivisa? Just because you personally struggle to use its search function doesn't mean it's not a terrific historical depository of Thai political history for the time it covers. This case started in 2006 and still isn't over yet.

Let's have a look at the original acquittal notice of the co-defendants that was upheld by the Appeals Court yesterday.

Criminal Court clears Democrat of libel charges filed by ex-Thai Rak Thai executive

The Criminal Court Thursday cleared the Democrat party and the party Leader, the Secretary-General and a Bangkok MP of libel charges filed by former Thai Rak Thai party executive Prommin Lertsuridej.

Prommin named the Democrat Party, Prime Minister and party Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, Deputy Prime Minister and Democrat-Secretary-General Suthep Thaugsuban, Bangkok MP Ong-arj Klampaibul the first, second, third, and fourth defendants respectively.

Prommin alleged that the three Democrats defamed him and the Thai Rak Thai party by holding a press conference on March 16, 2006, saying three Thai Rak Thai party executives had committed election frauds by hiring small parties to contest April 2 2006 election.

But the court ruled that the Democrats held the press conference in good faith to announce the information it had learned.

The court said the Democrats simply wanted to inform the public of attempts to damage the country's democracy so they had not committed libel as charged.

The court said the Constitution Court had also proved that the Thai Rak Thai party had really hired the small parties to contest the election.

-- The Nation 2009-06-11

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Edited July 25, 2012 by Buchholz

[Reasonableman]

wow.... this case goes back.

Dug out from Thaivisa's archives.

and, but, of course, Thai Rak Thai was not involved in any fraud....

old irrelevant post snipped

historical footnote:

TRT was banned for electoral fraud which did involve evidence against the aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya.

.

But not obvously evidence against Thai Rak Thai executive Prommin Lertsuridej who was defamed and about whom this story is centred

and not the "aforementioned Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party Leader General Thammarak Issarangkul na Ayudhaya." who is not mentioned in the OP at all, but just in one of your search programs historical articles you drag up from Thai Visa whenever you get half a chance - it is as if somebody gives you a tip off.................

Anyway, Glad we cleared that up...................

If it weren't for PPD clarifying matters daily, where would we errant souls be? The mind boggles at the prospect.

[Moruya]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

No, not end of story at all. Somehow you seem to make a habit of twisting things into another picture.

As they say in Wales "he who listens bad, understands bad"

[Dap]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

As is your right ... in your estimation.

[Reasonableman]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

No, not end of story at all. Somehow you seem to make a habit of twisting things into another picture.

It's wishful thinking that this will close down the discussion. End of story = close this down because further discussion could damage my case. An old and totally transparent ploy. When paired with "obviously" or "rightly" in this case, the bias is apparent, and alarm bells are ringing.

Edited July 25, 2012 by Reasonableman

[brianb1944]

so even when a dem is found guilty of an offence it is still the TRT or PTP or the reds fault?

Suthep committed an offence and has rightly been found guilty, end of story.

Apparently not so, and the affair is far from over.