WhizBang Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 And if Thaksin is charged, tried, convicted and sentenced will he serve his jail time in the same way Sondhi is serving his? Don't be silly. Thaksin will never set foot in the country if convicted, plus he will say it is all politically motivated, call on his red mob to rally against the court decision, etc, etc, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Business man is always a business man and finally, he's got nowhere here to live Dubai, Nigeria Nicaragua, Montenegro and he can come back to Thailand and live here first he have to face some music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I hope this trial we be free and fair, no more cake boxes or mob harrassment. Edited July 25, 2012 by waza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Have the rest of these defendants been remanded in custody ? If not we might find them all living in Dubai before 11 October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 ooooh. well more to come i am sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Is the Supreme Court - Criminal Section a Judge only court or Judge and Jury Court? The Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders will have a panel of nine judges hearing and deciding the case. I'll leave it to the Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Jeng Dokjik to provide their names, addresses, and phone numbers for threatening purposes. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Defendants are summoned for the first testimony on October 11. No Prizes for guessing who will not be attending Court! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Have the rest of these defendants been remanded in custody ? If not we might find them all living in Dubai before 11 October. None of them have been remanded AFAIK. I'm interested in seeing when the one defendant that was dropped from the original case faces prosecution. A request was being made for public prosecutors from the Criminal Court to file the appropriate charges against Panthongtae Shinawatra for his involvement in the siphoning of billions of baht. He was dropped over jurisdictional concerns as he's not a political office holder. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 And if Thaksin is charged, tried, convicted and sentenced will he serve his jail time in the same way Sondhi is serving his? Didn't know Sondhi also was a part of this scandal. Correct, Sondhi was convicted in another fraud case The Security and Exhange Commission accused him of falsifying documents used as collateral for a loan amounting to almost 1.1bn baht ($36m, 22.7m) for his media business. The point is that Sondhi is still leading his band of "geriatric terrorists" despite facing a 20 year jail sentence for fraud. What's that got to do with this thread? Diddly squat.... but it's been a very successful diversion with nearly 20 posts on Sondhi. , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders should hurry before a charter change disbands it. Would that be a conflict of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 And if Thaksin is charged, tried, convicted and sentenced will he serve his jail time in the same way Sondhi is serving his? At the very least Sondhi is in Thailand and legally out on bail. Thaksin isn't in the country and skipped his bail. Yes but unlike Thaksin, Sondhi is on his Fourth Bail time, having been sentenced to jail 4 times and not spending one day of those sentences in jail is an acheivement way beyond anything Thaksin has managed. You reject his right to be released on bail wile waiting appeal in a complex corporate matter? Did I see your complaint about a pack of arsonists clearly identified and convicted released on bail posted by the government (members of which incited/instigated the arson)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 ooooh. well more to come i am sure. Queue Audience Applause.....OOOOOHHHHH Stay Tuned Folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Leave Thai politics to the Thais and enjoy your life here while you can. Life is too short. The average Thai, no matter the shirt color, are great people who basically let you do what you want as long as it is legal. Try taking a trip to farming villages and appreciate the hard work they do in the fields this time of year. Each to their own, but as you say - life is too short. I didn`t move to Thailand to go on field trips. I`ll stick to Bangkok. Edited July 25, 2012 by BirdsandBooze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudolus Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Who cares? Nothing will happen. It never does. Thaksin will come home soon, the army will roll out again, another party will be banned and replaced with the same mob just like a financial services company going strategically bankrupt every few years. Yingluck will make her billions and so will her friends and just as the democrats are feeling the financial pinch, the Army will rescue them with a nice coup and give them a few years to rape thailand of its last Baht. Mean while, on every street corner, there is horrendous poverty on display. So who cares about these crooks. Thailand doesn't care about our thoughts so if you want to show you care, stop moaning about Thaksin, and get out into the community and do something positive (of course, make sure it's listwd on your work permit or else you will be arrested and deported). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 And if Thaksin is charged, tried, convicted and sentenced will he serve his jail time in the same way Sondhi is serving his? He will probably serve his time the way he's serving his present sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This is of course 'politically motivated' and taken care off by the coming charter overhaul. This would not be covered by the amnesty suggested. It is an unrelated matter. It is about time this case made its way to the court's docket. Although it might be motivated in part by politics, it is an important case that must be pursued and the implicated parties named, shamed and if guilty convicted. There is also a strong likelihood that the evidence to be presented will not be sufficient to prove the guilt of those charged. Whatever, the result, the case had to be brought for the sake of Thailand's banking system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Have the rest of these defendants been remanded in custody ? If not we might find them all living in Dubai before 11 October. None of them have been remanded AFAIK. I'm interested in seeing when the one defendant that was dropped from the original case faces prosecution. A request was being made for public prosecutors from the Criminal Court to file the appropriate charges against Panthongtae Shinawatra for his involvement in the siphoning of billions of baht. He was dropped over jurisdictional concerns as he's not a political office holder. http://www.thaivisa....k-loan-scandal/ . Surely he is still good for conducting fraudelant activities and can be tried separately ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 This is of course 'politically motivated' and taken care off by the coming charter overhaul. This would not be covered by the amnesty suggested. It is an unrelated matter. It is about time this case made its way to the court's docket. Although it might be motivated in part by politics, it is an important case that must be pursued and the implicated parties named, shamed and if guilty convicted. There is also a strong likelihood that the evidence to be presented will not be sufficient to prove the guilt of those charged. Whatever, the result, the case had to be brought for the sake of Thailand's banking system. let's see what's in all those boxes... The Nation 2012-06-14 '17 boxes of evidence' In the Krung Thai Bank (KTB) case, state prosecutors submitted a writ citing an anti-graft report and 150 files in 17 boxes of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Have the rest of these defendants been remanded in custody ? If not we might find them all living in Dubai before 11 October. None of them have been remanded AFAIK. I'm interested in seeing when the one defendant that was dropped from the original case faces prosecution. A request was being made for public prosecutors from the Criminal Court to file the appropriate charges against Panthongtae Shinawatra for his involvement in the siphoning of billions of baht. He was dropped over jurisdictional concerns as he's not a political office holder. http://www.thaivisa....k-loan-scandal/ . Surely he is still good for conducting fraudelant activities and can be tried separately ? Yes, he can be tried separately. That's why the effort to get him indicted and go to the Criminal Court instead of the Supreme Court. As his purported involvement is knee deep, it's appropriate for him to be tried, also. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Have the rest of these defendants been remanded in custody ? If not we might find them all living in Dubai before 11 October. None of them have been remanded AFAIK. I'm interested in seeing when the one defendant that was dropped from the original case faces prosecution. A request was being made for public prosecutors from the Criminal Court to file the appropriate charges against Panthongtae Shinawatra for his involvement in the siphoning of billions of baht. He was dropped over jurisdictional concerns as he's not a political office holder. http://www.thaivisa....k-loan-scandal/ . Surely he is still good for conducting fraudelant activities and can be tried separately ? Yes, he can be tried separately. That's why the effort to get him indicted and go to the Criminal Court instead of the Supreme Court. As his purported involvement is knee deep, it's appropriate for him to be tried, also. . Well then. Let's hope they have revoked his passport. Actually. Maybe not. It would be an absolute pisscutter to see another Shinawatra on the run for fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Who cares? Nothing will happen. It never does. Thaksin will come home soon, the army will roll out again, another party will be banned and replaced with the same mob just like a financial services company going strategically bankrupt every few years. Yingluck will make her billions and so will her friends and just as the democrats are feeling the financial pinch, the Army will rescue them with a nice coup and give them a few years to rape thailand of its last Baht. Mean while, on every street corner, there is horrendous poverty on display. So who cares about these crooks. Thailand doesn't care about our thoughts so if you want to show you care, stop moaning about Thaksin, and get out into the community and do something positive (of course, make sure it's listwd on your work permit or else you will be arrested and deported). Horrendous poverty? I take it you are not widely travelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metisdead Posted July 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2012 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. This topic is not about Sondhi, please stay on topic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noistar Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Leave Thai politics to the Thais and enjoy your life here while you can. Life is too short. The average Thai, no matter the shirt color, are great people who basically let you do what you want as long as it is legal. Try taking a trip to farming villages and appreciate the hard work they do in the fields this time of year. Been to Chiang Mai? Not much of the live and let live. Had an indoctrination from a tuk-tuk driver on how the red shirts do what they want and the police live in fear of them. Not sure what they do with their other brain cell My wife is scared to get a yellow motorbike (not that there are that many here). But I agree, the majority of Thai people just want to get on with their lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) This is of course 'politically motivated' and taken care off by the coming charter overhaul. This would not be covered by the amnesty suggested. It is an unrelated matter. It is about time this case made its way to the court's docket. Although it might be motivated in part by politics, it is an important case that must be pursued and the implicated parties named, shamed and if guilty convicted. There is also a strong likelihood that the evidence to be presented will not be sufficient to prove the guilt of those charged. Whatever, the result, the case had to be brought for the sake of Thailand's banking system. It's about time the PTP grew a sense of direction, bought a compass and committed, in writing, to the people if Thailand, WHAT the <snip> changes they want to make. Until they do , all the Reds and their plastic red lapdogs should refrain from posting on the matter as there is nothing to discuss. Edited July 25, 2012 by metisdead : DIsguised profanity edited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 let's see what's in all those boxes... The Nation 2012-06-14 '17 boxes of evidence' In the Krung Thai Bank (KTB) case, state prosecutors submitted a writ citing an anti-graft report and 150 files in 17 boxes of evidence. http://www.thaivisa....k-loan-scandal/ well if they want a conviction they'd better hope they have more on thaksin in those files than - (from the OP) The loans were approved when Thaksin was in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) let's see what's in all those boxes... The Nation 2012-06-14 '17 boxes of evidence' In the Krung Thai Bank (KTB) case, state prosecutors submitted a writ citing an anti-graft report and 150 files in 17 boxes of evidence. http://www.thaivisa....k-loan-scandal/ well if they want a conviction they'd better hope they have more on thaksin in those files than - (from the OP) The loans were approved when Thaksin was in office. oh, rest assured, they do. The OP was the briefest possible. More is available here: Prosecutor Indicts Thaksin In State Bank Loan Scandal The State Of The Cases Against Thaksin Thaksin To Face New Corruption Charge Over Improper Bank Loans , Edited July 25, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 oh, rest assured, they do. The OP was the briefest possible. More is available here: Prosecutor Indicts Thaksin In State Bank Loan Scandal The State Of The Cases Against Thaksin Thaksin To Face New Corruption Charge Over Improper Bank Loans , i know, i was being facetious about the OP. i remember this story, it only came up again here recently in the last month or two iirc. ...^ just noticed you linked the recent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 And if Thaksin is charged, tried, convicted and sentenced will he serve his jail time in the same way Sondhi is serving his? Didn't know Sondhi also was a part of this scandal. Correct, Sondhi was convicted in another fraud case The Security and Exhange Commission accused him of falsifying documents used as collateral for a loan amounting to almost 1.1bn baht ($36m, 22.7m) for his media business. The point is that Sondhi is still leading his band of "geriatric terrorists" despite facing a 20 year jail sentence for fraud. Well even having been on the run for 8 years for a 2 year term Thaksin is still leading his young and strapping terrorists oh sorry ummmm people. They herd the the geriatric reds into the rallies and riots. So all good. Sent from my GT-P1010 using Thaivisa Connect App A bit of an exaggeration, methinks. As k. Thaksin and his then-wife were supposed to attend court on the 11th of August, 2008, we're not even talking about four years living in self-imposed exile yet. As the trial have passed a certain stage he could be sentenced and even appeal. The last he 'forgot' to have his lawyers do (the ones left to him, with a few others jailed for luncheon box littering). Maybe our dear Thaksin already had in mind to 'arrange' a reconciliation, forgive all my opponents and let's have an amnesty party Of course from day one k. Thaksin also stressed the political character of opponents. I don't think he ever mentioned business opponents. Maybe professional courtesy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Sorry uncle Rubl. I succombed to the Red propoganda machine. I remembered a post by PDP. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Sent from my GT-P1010 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) oh, rest assured, they do. The OP was the briefest possible. More is available here: Prosecutor Indicts Thaksin In State Bank Loan Scandal The State Of The Cases Against Thaksin Thaksin To Face New Corruption Charge Over Improper Bank Loans , i know, i was being facetious about the OP. i remember this story, it only came up again here recently in the last month or two iirc. ...^ just noticed you linked the recent one. I know, I remeber, you know it all. Ah neuro your a ledgend in your own mind, I look forwards to the after bar insight you bring.......... Edited July 25, 2012 by waza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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