webfact Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Charter court verdict lacked transparency: Chalerm PIYANART SRIVALO, PRAPAN JINDALERT-UDOMDEE THE NATION BANGKOK: -- Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung yesterday criticised the Constitution Court and disputed its recent verdict in the case against proponents of constitutional amendment. He said the court's process of preparing the official verdict, which was released on Thursday, lacked transparency. Chalerm said that unlike in previous cases, the judges' personal decisions in the case were not available shortly after the verdict was read on July 13. It took almost two weeks before the official verdict was released to the public on Thursday, he noted in a statement released yesterday. He said the judges' personal rulings could have been influenced or altered after their joint verdict was announced. Copies of Chalerm's seven-page statement were distributed to reporters at Government House yesterday. To many observers, the verdict read on July 13 and the official version released on Thursday are almost identical. Chalerm, who often points out that he has a doctorate in law from Ramkhamhaeng University, also said in his statement that he agreed with two of the points made in the court's verdict, while disagreeing with the two others. He disagreed with the court's ruling that it was empowered by the Constitution to make a judicial review of the case. He also disputed the court's ruling that Article 291 of the charter does not allow the writing of a new constitution. Chalerm said in citing "the spirit of the Constitution", the judges appeared to follow their feelings rather than legal principles. However, Chalerm backed the court's decision to reject the petitions accusing amendment proponents of attempting to overthrow the country's democratic system of government with the King as head of state. He also agreed with the court's decision not to punish the defendants. Meanwhile, a legal expert for the ruling Pheu Thai Party, Pichit Chuenban, yesterday said that the court's official verdict offered no further explanation of the ruling read on July 13. "The court still uses the word 'should', which leaves it unclear whether [something] can be done or not. The Constitution Court should be clearer if it thinks of itself as a pillar of democracy," he said. Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the Cabinet was waiting for advice from the Council of State, the government's legal advisory agency, on the court verdict. -- The Nation 2012-07-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KireB Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Most likely scenario: Ignore the courts, ignore the laws and push for reconciliation retaliation for their crime boss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Most likely scenario: Ignore the courts, ignore the laws and push for reconciliation retaliation for their crime boss. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Chalerm's transparency over the CC? Er no! Is the written CC verdict different from the verbal one read 2 weeks ago? Er no! How is the war against tourist Mafia going Chalerm? Er nowhere! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Most likely scenario: Ignore the courts, ignore the laws and push for reconciliation retaliation for their crime boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Chalerm went to University? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) transparency ??? I'm sure that Chalerm had to look up the meaning of the word in a dictionary or a good friend told him what it meant, no doubt ''transparency'' is an obscene word to Chalerm. If, ''transparency'' walked up to Chalerm in the street and said Hello Chalerm wouldn't recognise him. Chalerms best friend and mentor is his old pal, ''duplicity'' who is also his mentor as we so plainly see and hear every day from the actions Chalerms takes and the rhetoric that I presume comes out of his mouth rather than another orifice. If there is indeed a process of reincarnation, Chalerm will surely return as a ''corkscrew'' as his mindset and his principiles are so twisted there is no way in a thousand reincarnations that Chalerm could ever be straight. The income projection from the returm of the PT Messiah must indeed be enormous considering the amount of time and political effort being expended on the cause of a convicted criminal.bail jumper and a totally corrupt personality by the P.T. and its clique of bully boys who are intent on enriching themselves and on the total destruction of that which passes for democracy here in Thailand. Edited July 28, 2012 by siampolee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Chalerm, who often points out that he has a doctorate in law from Ramkhamhaeng University Did he pay for it or is it a forged doctorate bought on the backstreets of BKK! Not forgetting he also wants to shorten the time it takes to execute drugs mules, without due course to the legal system! Really looks like he knows what he is talking about! Sent from my GT-P6200 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Chalerm's transparency over the CC? Er no! Is the written CC verdict different from the verbal one read 2 weeks ago? Er no! How is the war against tourist Mafia going Chalerm? Er nowhere! It will get better now his son has joined the police force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 YOU THINK??????????????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 YOU THINK??????????????????????????????????????????????? Where better to target the Mafia if not from the inside plus getting paid and tea money too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 YOU THINK??????????????????????????????????????????????? Where better to target the Mafia if not from the inside plus getting paid and tea money too. With al the stuff that happened, phone numbers being posted and all I'd have gone 50/50 too. The only thing transparent in this country is the sky when the sun is shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 However, Chalerm backed the court's decision to reject the petitions accusing amendment proponents of attempting to overthrow the country's democratic system of government with the King as head of state. He also agreed with the court's decision not to punish the defendants. But apart from that, whatever did the Romans do for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Chalerm said that unlike in previous cases, the judges' personal decisions in the case were not available shortly after the verdict was read on July 13. It took almost two weeks before the official verdict was released to the public on Thursday, he noted in a statement released yesterday. I think the judges personal opinions were quite clear when they call for the bail to be revoked on the redshirt agitators who were trying to subvert the legal process through threat and intimidation, Thaksin's democracy in action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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