Mosquito Problem In Central Bangkok At Present

[meand]

Myself, i'd definitely avoid getting the deet on a nice watch or nice pair of glasses. This opinion is based on a little bit of reading. I personally only use deet when it is an absolute, 100% must, but to each their own. I dont like RAID either, or any of that type of stuff.

I'm just left wondering if this is a serious "solution" to this problem, smothering yourself and sleeping in deet every night??!! I'd much sooner move.

Plenty of serious solutions if you bother to read all the posts instead of just joining in the argument about DEET on plastic. How about one of you guys backing this rubbish up by making a plastic eating DEET demo and posting it on Youtube - really want to see that. There plenty about batteries made from lemon juice!!!!!

When somebody says "I'm just left wondering if this is a serious "solution" to this problem, smothering yourself and sleeping in deet every night??!!", that does't infer there haven't been other solutions offered up, just that it is a wonderment that this particular "solution" is even being considered.

Posting stuff on youtube? Are you being serious? Most of the stuff on deet and synthetics mentions them being degraded (for the uninitiated, like you, that means "not good"), so not sure what you want to see in this video. There is also this other thing called reading. Good luck in any event.

You haven't by any chance swallowed a bunch of deet, have you?

Edited August 2, 2012 by meand

[sysardman]

Myself, i'd definitely avoid getting the deet on a nice watch or nice pair of glasses. This opinion is based on a little bit of reading. I personally only use deet when it is an absolute, 100% must, but to each their own. I dont like RAID either, or any of that type of stuff.

I'm just left wondering if this is a serious "solution" to this problem, smothering yourself and sleeping in deet every night??!! I'd much sooner move.

Plenty of serious solutions if you bother to read all the posts instead of just joining in the argument about DEET on plastic. How about one of you guys backing this rubbish up by making a plastic eating DEET demo and posting it on Youtube - really want to see that. There plenty about batteries made from lemon juice!!!!!

When somebody says "I'm just left wondering if this is a serious "solution" to this problem, smothering yourself and sleeping in deet every night??!!", that does't infer there haven't been other solutions offered up, just that it is a wonderment that this particular "solution" is even being considered.

Posting stuff on youtube? Are you being serious? Most of the stuff on deet and synthetics mentions them being degraded (for the uninitiated, like you, that means "not good"), so not sure what you want to see in this video. There is also this other thing called reading. Good luck in any event.

You haven't by any chance swallowed a bunch of deet, have you?

Well the serious solution offered way,way back when this thread was young was to get a mosquito net for the bed and screens for windows and doors - DEET was only mentioned as a backup to appropriate outdoor clothing. But then along came the scare mongers with their tales of 100% DEET that was never really part of this discussion and stories of molten plastic etc. I then pointed out that 100% concentrations of most stuff including the alternate repellent Citronella has serious adverse effects. By the way it was actually the OP that was asking for an altenative to sleeping with DEET every night (I didn't realise he meant Deet the bar girl from Patpong!!!!)

As for your other comments - how do you swallow a bunch of DEET, a bunch of flowers, a bunch of bananas but how can you get a bunch of DEET. Water will also degrade many fabrics so we shouldn't wash right?????, 100% citric acid is nasty stuff too but nobody is talking using 100% anything. It's all common sense but there's an obvious lacking of that on this thread. As for reading - at least I can get past E for Elephant but keep trying you'll get there!!!

PS how's the weather in Crete at the moment?

Edited August 2, 2012 by sysardman

[meand]

Myself, i'd definitely avoid getting the deet on a nice watch or nice pair of glasses. This opinion is based on a little bit of reading. I personally only use deet when it is an absolute, 100% must, but to each their own. I dont like RAID either, or any of that type of stuff.

I'm just left wondering if this is a serious "solution" to this problem, smothering yourself and sleeping in deet every night??!! I'd much sooner move.

Plenty of serious solutions if you bother to read all the posts instead of just joining in the argument about DEET on plastic. How about one of you guys backing this rubbish up by making a plastic eating DEET demo and posting it on Youtube - really want to see that. There plenty about batteries made from lemon juice!!!!!

When somebody says "I'm just left wondering if this is a serious "solution" to this problem, smothering yourself and sleeping in deet every night??!!", that does't infer there haven't been other solutions offered up, just that it is a wonderment that this particular "solution" is even being considered.

Posting stuff on youtube? Are you being serious? Most of the stuff on deet and synthetics mentions them being degraded (for the uninitiated, like you, that means "not good"), so not sure what you want to see in this video. There is also this other thing called reading. Good luck in any event.

You haven't by any chance swallowed a bunch of deet, have you?

Well the serious solution offered way,way back when this thread was young was to get a mosquito net for the bed and screens for windows and doors - DEET was only mentioned as a backup to appropriate outdoor clothing. But then along came the scare mongers with their tales of 100% DEET that was never really part of this discussion and stories of molten plastic etc. I then pointed out that 100% concentrations of most stuff including the alternate repellent Citronella has serious adverse effects. By the way it was actually the OP that was asking for an altenative to sleeping with DEET every night (I didn't realise he meant Deet the bar girl from Patpong!!!!)

As for your other comments - how do you swallow a bunch of DEET, a bunch of flowers, a bunch of bananas but how can you get a bunch of DEET. Water will also degrade many fabrics so we shouldn't wash right?????, 100% citric acid is nasty stuff too but nobody is talking using 100% anything. It's all common sense but there's an obvious lacking of that on this thread. As for reading - at least I can get past E for Elephant but keep trying you'll get there!!!

PS how's the weather in Crete at the moment?

I will "gracefully" bow out with the shred of class, if any, that I have left.

[nocturn]

I recommend sleeping in the same room as a woman or better yet a small child, as they seem to be preferred targets. Avoid scented soaps shampoos and creams and if a mosquito does get in, odds are it heads straight for the woman or the kid.

You are a really nice person.

and you seem blind to humour. unfortunately i refuse to pander to people by using smilies.

As to the person who doubts the veracity of my very real first hand experiences with deet and mosquitoes or mosquitos and scents , you have never worked in a logging, tree planting or herbicide camp in northern BC.

Regarding shampoo and scented products. try sitting beside a woman who has just showered and lotioned after dusk and watch her hair.

http://www.google.co.th/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=mosquitos%20atrraccted%20to%20shampoo&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=916867d71d5cad37&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1600&bih=732

Feeding hearsay? if you are speaking first hand it inst hearsay. the alternative is you are calling me a liar.

in higher concentration it is nasty stuff. It permeates skin very easily, accumulates and prolonged exposure can case neurological damage.

http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/deet.htm

the following i found in 10 minutes: there is much more out there.

i am not screaming hysterically that it is dangerous, i occasionally use it very sparingly, but i would not apply to my child. anyone thinking of applying it daily at home should be well aware of what they are using, especially in higher concentrations, though i dont believe you can get much more than 30% here

http://sectionhiker....mental-results/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET

DEET is an effective solvent,^[4] and may dissolve some plastics, rayon, spandex, other synthetic fabrics, and painted or varnished surfaces including nail polish.

from a thread called deet damage http://www.dgrin.com...ad.php?t=139904

http://www.which.co....ect-repellents/

Can DEET damage clothing and other materials?

DEET is known to melt some hard plastics. You should be careful to ensure plastics, such as rucksack clips or sunglasses, do not come into contact with DEET, as it may damage them.

We sprayed some 100% DEET on some sunglasses, and it totally destroyed them.

Clothing should, in general, be OK when sprayed with DEET, unless it has any plastic accessories.

100 percent deet applied to sunglasses

http://scienceblogs....ing-you-just-s/

Edited August 2, 2012 by nocturn

[sysardman]

I recommend sleeping in the same room as a woman or better yet a small child, as they seem to be preferred targets. Avoid scented soaps shampoos and creams and if a mosquito does get in, odds are it heads straight for the woman or the kid.

You are a really nice person.

and you seem blind to humour. unfortunately i refuse to pander to people by using smilies.

As to the person who doubts the veracity of my very real first hand experiences with deet and mosquitoes or mosquitos and scents , you have never worked in a logging, tree planting or herbicide camp in northern BC.

Regarding shampoo and scented products. try sitting beside a woman who has just showered and lotioned after dusk and watch her hair.

http://www.google.co...iw=1600&bih=732

Feeding hearsay? if you are speaking first hand it inst hearsay. the alternative is you are calling me a liar.

in higher concentration it is nasty stuff. It permeates skin very easily, accumulates and prolonged exposure can case neurological damage.

http://www.inchem.or...emical/deet.htm

the following i found in 10 minutes: there is much more out there.

i am not screaming hysterically that it is dangerous, i occasionally use it very sparingly, but i would not apply to my child. anyone thinking of applying it daily at home should be well aware of what they are using, especially in higher concentrations, though i dont believe you can get much more than 30% here

http://sectionhiker....mental-results/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET

DEET is an effective solvent,^[4] and may dissolve some plastics, rayon, spandex, other synthetic fabrics, and painted or varnished surfaces including nail polish.

from a thread called deet damage http://www.dgrin.com...ad.php?t=139904

http://www.which.co....ect-repellents/

Can DEET damage clothing and other materials?

DEET is known to melt some hard plastics. You should be careful to ensure plastics, such as rucksack clips or sunglasses, do not come into contact with DEET, as it may damage them.

We sprayed some 100% DEET on some sunglasses, and it totally destroyed them.

Clothing should, in general, be OK when sprayed with DEET, unless it has any plastic accessories.

100 percent deet applied to sunglasses

http://scienceblogs....ing-you-just-s/

Obviously done a bit of research - well done.

Did you know that if you drive a car with faulty brakes at 100mph through a crowded shopping centre you will more than likely kill someone? but then it's not recommended usage is it?

Also try taking a paper tissue and soaking it in water and then blow your nose - result, snot all over the place because the water dissolved the tissue, amazing heh!! (make sure you use 100% water - don't try to dilute it).

Rubbing alcohol is a fairly potent solvent and yet we still put it on our skin to treat wounds - crazy stuff.

And please send me a woman fresh from the shower but I can't promise to watch her hair

Edited August 3, 2012 by sysardman

[nocturn]

I recommend sleeping in the same room as a woman or better yet a small child, as they seem to be preferred targets. Avoid scented soaps shampoos and creams and if a mosquito does get in, odds are it heads straight for the woman or the kid.

You are a really nice person.

and you seem blind to humour. unfortunately i refuse to pander to people by using smilies.

As to the person who doubts the veracity of my very real first hand experiences with deet and mosquitoes or mosquitos and scents , you have never worked in a logging, tree planting or herbicide camp in northern BC.

Regarding shampoo and scented products. try sitting beside a woman who has just showered and lotioned after dusk and watch her hair.

http://www.google.co...iw=1600&bih=732

Feeding hearsay? if you are speaking first hand it inst hearsay. the alternative is you are calling me a liar.

in higher concentration it is nasty stuff. It permeates skin very easily, accumulates and prolonged exposure can case neurological damage.

http://www.inchem.or...emical/deet.htm

the following i found in 10 minutes: there is much more out there.

i am not screaming hysterically that it is dangerous, i occasionally use it very sparingly, but i would not apply to my child. anyone thinking of applying it daily at home should be well aware of what they are using, especially in higher concentrations, though i dont believe you can get much more than 30% here

http://sectionhiker....mental-results/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET

DEET is an effective solvent,^[4] and may dissolve some plastics, rayon, spandex, other synthetic fabrics, and painted or varnished surfaces including nail polish.

from a thread called deet damage http://www.dgrin.com...ad.php?t=139904

http://www.which.co....ect-repellents/

Can DEET damage clothing and other materials?

DEET is known to melt some hard plastics. You should be careful to ensure plastics, such as rucksack clips or sunglasses, do not come into contact with DEET, as it may damage them.

We sprayed some 100% DEET on some sunglasses, and it totally destroyed them.

Clothing should, in general, be OK when sprayed with DEET, unless it has any plastic accessories.

100 percent deet applied to sunglasses

http://scienceblogs....ing-you-just-s/

Obviously done a bit of research - well done.

Did you know that if you drive a car with faulty brakes at 100mph through a crowded shopping centre you will more than likely kill someone? but then it's not recommended usage is it?

Also try taking a paper tissue and soaking it in water and then blow your nose - result, snot all over the place because the water dissolved the tissue, amazing heh!! (make sure you use 100% water - don't try to dilute it).

Rubbing alcohol is a fairly potent solvent and yet we still put it on our skin to treat wounds - crazy stuff.

And please send me a woman fresh from the shower but I can't promise to watch her hair

good points, i guess i did not really look at it that way.

ill just leave you alone with your bad self. good luck finding that woman.

[Shot]

Use lots of coconut oil. Have your loved one apply it on you, and you same for her. After everything is slippery…..enjoy. You won’t notice the mosquitoes.

Edited August 3, 2012 by Shot

[Gaccha]

If they're up that high, look for a local breeding source, i.e., a pool of water: a bucket on an unused balcony, or suchlike on the same or a nearby floor. Doesn't take much stagnant water to create a mosquito factory...

And then what? I can see an ideal mosquito factory from my balcony....

[AmeriThai]

I've tried the handheld bug zappers They work, but half the time it's hard to see the mosquitoes. You just have to keep waving it around. I figure if mosquitoes are that much of a problem indoors, then as soon as you've zapped a few, there are bound to be more coming in from somewhere. There are some mozzie traps around. MOSQ Eraser is one that I'm thinking about trying. They can be set on a table or the floor indoors, or attach legs for outdoor use. I don['t know how effective they actually are though, but they might be worth a try.

http://www.a4s-thai....d=40502&Ntype=3

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just some common sense suggestions based on the OP's comments.

1. If you think mosquitoes are coming in via your air con vents, get either some mosquito netting fabric or regular air con filter material and use it to line those vent openings.

2. Use and/or get window screens, which work great to keep mozzies out but let the (fresh???) air in.

3. I try to keep my bedroom as a mozzie-free zone by keeping the door to the rest of my apartment pretty much closed at all times, and only opening the bedroom windows for fresh air with window screens in place.

4. If I think a couple of mozzies may have made it from the rest of my home into my bedroom before bedtime, I usually give the room a once over with a battery powered mozzie bat before going to bed. In my experience, generally, they like to land on soft materials like curtains, bedsheets, pillows, towels, etc. So I always brush all of those materials in the bedroom with the mozzie bat and then wave it thru the open air spaces of the room to catch any flying ones.

5. In my experience, the preventive sprays and lotions work OK, but are a pain to keep on all the time. I'm not real comfortable being continually doused in DEET. And the cintronella oil sprays help, but certainly don't provide absolute protection. So keeping my bedroom skeeter free becomes the top priority. And it's really not hard to do by taking a few precautions.

BTW, here's a photo of the typical citronella spray sold in local stores.

[AmeriThai]

5. In my experience, the preventive sprays and lotions work OK, but are a pain to keep on all the time. I'm not real comfortable being continually doused in DEET. And the cintronella oil sprays help, but certainly don't provide absolute protection. So keeping my bedroom skeeter free becomes the top priority. And it's really not hard to do by taking a few precautions.

You're right. The OP is up on the 20th floor and the suggestions you made to reduce mozzies from getting in are sensible. As for concern about DEET lotions and sprays (and I suspect citronella sprays as well), they do make your skin feel pretty sticky. That's not a big issue though since a good shower in the morning will wash it right off. I don't know anyone who continually douses themselves with it. I only use such products if I'm going to be out and about at night or sleeping where I know mosquitoes are thick and hungry for something foreign to snack on.. Some people may be more sensitive and could have an allergic reaction to DEET products. If that happens, then such a person should stop using it and try something different.

[kanderson]

Stuff really can absorb right through your skin. I used to take AndroGel (topical) testosterone. Slow dose / low dose.

Now days I am very aware of how easy the skin can absorb stuff.

I freaken hate mosquitos.

[AmeriThai]

Stuff really can absorb right through your skin. I used to take AndroGel (topical) testosterone. Slow dose / low dose.

Now days I am very aware of how easy the skin can absorb stuff.

I freaken hate mosquitos.

I don't know of anyone who likes mosquitoes. You say used to take AndroGel? What do you use now to keep those buggers at bay?

[sysardman]

@TallGuyJohninBKK

Good points but everything has been suggested many times previously in this thread

Edited August 6, 2012 by sysardman

[sysardman]

If they're up that high, look for a local breeding source, i.e., a pool of water: a bucket on an unused balcony, or suchlike on the same or a nearby floor. Doesn't take much stagnant water to create a mosquito factory...

And then what? I can see an ideal mosquito factory from my balcony....

I thought Ideal made toys not mosquitos

As you don't tell us what the mozzie factory is it is hard to suggest how to deal with it,

[Gaccha]

It is a puddle of water that sits stagnant all year round... I am sure they hatch in their thousands from it.

[sysardman]

It is a puddle of water that sits stagnant all year round... I am sure they hatch in their thousands from it.

Well you could do your bit for humanity and buy some bleach or something that will kill the buggers and dumping it in the water. I may be on my own waging a one man war against them but the satisfaction when I sqash one that is full of blood is really satisfying (sad really).

[sysardman]

It is a puddle of water that sits stagnant all year round... I am sure they hatch in their thousands from it.

Well you could do your bit for humanity and buy some bleach or something that will kill the buggers and dumping it in the water. I may be on my own waging a one man war against them but the satisfaction when I sqash one that is full of blood is really satisfying (sad really).

Well 2 more people die from West Nile virus and Yahoo offer their ever helpful advice - notice the emphasis on DEET: http://news.yahoo.com/whats-best-way-avoid-mosquito-bites-124543923.html, my only comment is that it's really difficult getting full protection, I was helping a neighbour cut bamboo the other day and applied DEET liberally, pesky little sod bit my earlobe (mozzie did - not my neighbour ). They may be tiny but they are sneaky little buggers.

[SpoliaOpima]

Citronella spray works very well and is not chemically "toxic"....

For about 10-20 minutes. It does't last nearly as long as DEET (abotu 8 hrs)

[SpoliaOpima]

I recommend sleeping in the same room as a woman or better yet a small child, as they seem to be preferred targets. Avoid scented soaps shampoos and creams and if a mosquito does get in, odds are it heads straight for the woman or the kid.

You are a really nice person.

and you seem blind to humour. unfortunately i refuse to pander to people by using smilies.

As to the person who doubts the veracity of my very real first hand experiences with deet and mosquitoes or mosquitos and scents , you have never worked in a logging, tree planting or herbicide camp in northern BC.

Regarding shampoo and scented products. try sitting beside a woman who has just showered and lotioned after dusk and watch her hair.

http://www.google.co...iw=1600&bih=732

Feeding hearsay? if you are speaking first hand it inst hearsay. the alternative is you are calling me a liar.

in higher concentration it is nasty stuff. It permeates skin very easily, accumulates and prolonged exposure can case neurological damage.

http://www.inchem.or...emical/deet.htm

the following i found in 10 minutes: there is much more out there.

i am not screaming hysterically that it is dangerous, i occasionally use it very sparingly, but i would not apply to my child. anyone thinking of applying it daily at home should be well aware of what they are using, especially in higher concentrations, though i dont believe you can get much more than 30% here

http://sectionhiker....mental-results/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEET

DEET is an effective solvent,^[4] and may dissolve some plastics, rayon, spandex, other synthetic fabrics, and painted or varnished surfaces including nail polish.

from a thread called deet damage http://www.dgrin.com...ad.php?t=139904

http://www.which.co....ect-repellents/

Can DEET damage clothing and other materials?

DEET is known to melt some hard plastics. You should be careful to ensure plastics, such as rucksack clips or sunglasses, do not come into contact with DEET, as it may damage them.

We sprayed some 100% DEET on some sunglasses, and it totally destroyed them.

Clothing should, in general, be OK when sprayed with DEET, unless it has any plastic accessories.

100 percent deet applied to sunglasses

http://scienceblogs....ing-you-just-s/

Solution: use repellants with smaller concentrations of DEET. I use 12-15% and they work great yet do not harm plastic.

[sysardman]

Citronella spray works very well and is not chemically "toxic"....

For about 10-20 minutes. It does't last nearly as long as DEET (abotu 8 hrs)

You're wasting your time (taken from a classic Will Hay movie - just google the quote). I've been arguing the case for DEET and getting arguments about it being toxic, eating sunglasses etc. The fact is I've been out helping a neighbour cutting bamboo (read Power of Bamboo in entertainment forum) in waterlogged ground with hordes of mozzies and by wearing suitable clothes and DEET (25%) applied to exposed parts I didn't get one mozzie bite during a weeks work. I did actually get one on my earlobe but that was when I sat in our kitchen having a cuppa and took my hat off (sneaky b'stard).

[samuijimmy]

Citronella spray works very well and is not chemically "toxic"....

For about 10-20 minutes. It does't last nearly as long as DEET (abotu 8 hrs)

You're wasting your time (taken from a classic Will Hay movie - just google the quote). I've been arguing the case for DEET and getting arguments about it being toxic, eating sunglasses etc. The fact is I've been out helping a neighbour cutting bamboo (read Power of Bamboo in entertainment forum) in waterlogged ground with hordes of mozzies and by wearing suitable clothes and DEET (25%) applied to exposed parts I didn't get one mozzie bite during a weeks work. I did actually get one on my earlobe but that was when I sat in our kitchen having a cuppa and took my hat off (sneaky b'stard).

...... Well you know not to take your hat off whilst you have a cuppa! ....

Fallen bamboo leaves under the plants are a great sleeping place for mossies during the day .....(cool and moist for them) .... they hind there and will attack if you disturb their sleep...

I'll stick with the Citronella spray, seems to work for me and having a few citronella plants around the garden seems to help too, (looks like lemon grass but grows taller and more erect...)....

[samuijimmy]

Citronella spray works very well and is not chemically "toxic"....

For about 10-20 minutes. It does't last nearly as long as DEET (abotu 8 hrs)

I disagree, lasts lots longer than that for me.... maybe try a different brand.....

[sysardman]

Citronella spray works very well and is not chemically "toxic"....

For about 10-20 minutes. It does't last nearly as long as DEET (abotu 8 hrs)

I disagree, lasts lots longer than that for me.... maybe try a different brand.....

Hi folks, it's what you prefer in the long run and I certainly aren't getting commission for selling DEET. If citronella stuff work for you then fine - no argument from me. I tend to sweat quite a bit especially when gardening in the sunshine and DEET seems to stay a bit longer than citronella. As I tend to react quite severely to mozzie bites (itch for days) it's important for me to have something that works well.

Edited August 28, 2012 by sysardman

[SpoliaOpima]

Citronella spray works very well and is not chemically "toxic"....

For about 10-20 minutes. It does't last nearly as long as DEET (abotu 8 hrs)

I disagree, lasts lots longer than that for me.... maybe try a different brand.....

I've tried qutie a few, along with pure citronella. After about 20 min it wears off. Most people I know personally report a similar dropoff. Glad to hear you're an exception to the norm.

[SpoliaOpima]

This comparative analysis by the Dept of Entomology at the Univ of Wisconsin makes a couple of strong points.

http://www.entomolog...picalrepel.html

Studies indicate that repellents containing DEET at concentrations >20% provide the longest periods of protection against mosquito bites but even low (5-10%) concentrations protect for 1-3 hours.

and

Citronella-based products were not effective in laboratory trials. Several different citronella-based repellents (5-10%), provided protection for 20 minutes or less in 1 laboratory study (Fradin and Day 2002) and 0.5-5 hr in a second trial (Barnard and Xue 2004). A wristband with 25% citronella failed to prevent bites (Fradin and Day 2002).

What brand of citronella repellant do you use? I will give it a shot, even though I've never suffered any ill effects from using repellants with low concentrations of DEET. I have seen some citronella-based repellants that also contain DEET, so I'm wonder whether that could be the case with your brand?

[sysardman]

Citronella spray works very well and is not chemically "toxic"....

For about 10-20 minutes. It does't last nearly as long as DEET (abotu 8 hrs)

I disagree, lasts lots longer than that for me.... maybe try a different brand.....

I've tried qutie a few, along with pure citronella. After about 20 min it wears off. Most people I know personally report a similar dropoff. Glad to hear you're an exception to the norm.

Also some people seem to be more attractive to mozzies than others - my other half says I have 'sweet blood'. I know I've sat in a baht bus with 20 others (my Pattaya diving days) and been the only one bitten. I just say use what works for you but don't pay too much attention to all these DEET scare stories. It's being used by countless millions across the globe, it's endorsed by numerous reputable agencies so I don't think it's quite the villain some make out.

[cowslip]

Mozzies can't be eliminated - they could possibly be controlled.

Use of chemicals is really pretty finite in scope.

THe answer would appear to be in the release of GM modified sterile males. THis causes dramatic reductions in local populations - (80% I hear)

[sysardman]

Mozzies can't be eliminated - they could possibly be controlled.

Use of chemicals is really pretty finite in scope.

THe answer would appear to be in the release of GM modified sterile males. THis causes dramatic reductions in local populations - (80% I hear)

The problem about that is getting the Thais to take it seriously and spend money on it. Our condo sometimes has one of those guys come with the big fogging machines to fumigate the grounds but we're lucky to see him once a year (if that)

[cowslip]

Mozzies can't be eliminated - they could possibly be controlled.

Use of chemicals is really pretty finite in scope.

THe answer would appear to be in the release of GM modified sterile males. THis causes dramatic reductions in local populations - (80% I hear)

The problem about that is getting the Thais to take it seriously and spend money on it. Our condo sometimes has one of those guys come with the big fogging machines to fumigate the grounds but we're lucky to see him once a year (if that)

THe thing about GM mozzies is that it doesn't involve repeated doses of potent chemicals. It has to be repeated but apparently works quite well in localised, threatened areas.

THe downside is that it is releasing GM animals into the wild - however they are meant to die quickly - and the life span of a mozzie is only days.

The contractors who spray around our village would be a joke if they weren't such a health risk. THeir work is completely ineffective - probably because thy have no idea of what they are supposed to be spraying.