Adding My Son To My Wife'S House Registration Card

[bat69]

My son was born in Perth Oz. We are currently in Thailand and want to add our son to my wife's house registration. We have received conflicting information from several people. Has anyone done this before?

We have been told we need to get a stamp from our embassy on his Oz birth certificate, then get this translated, go to a govt department near Laksi (Not sure which dept but assume something like births deaths and marriages), get a stamp from here and then take it to our local amphur wife the house owner (father in law) and they will add my son.

We went to Oz embassy and got the stamp today. Went to get the document translated and was told here this is not the correct process. According to them we need to go to the Thai consulate in Oz (not possible for me as there is not one in Perth). They will give us a 13 digit number. Not sure if they give us a Thai birth certificate. We then just take this to the local amphur and they will add my son.

My wife has just called a government dept to get more info. They were not helpful and did not know and just said come in and we will let you know. My wife tried to explain the whole reason for calling was so we did not waste our time when we came. Very frustrating!

If someone has done this before I would greatly appreciate info. Not sure if this is in the correct forum but if not could a mod move it please.

[krisb]

Hi, move this to family and children section. Im gonna be in the same boat as yourself soon so will be good to hear the answer. I think there is already info regarding this in that section but anyhow good luck.

[bat69]

Thanks krisb.

Could someone please move this the correct forum.

[samran]

You need to hold your horses and take 5 steps back. You won't be able to get him on the house registration for now.

Question:

Was your son born to a Thai parent in Australia?

Assuming the answer is 'yes' you need to have done/understand the following:

- Given your son was born in Australia to a Thai parent (and presuming an Australian parent) he has dual Thai/Australian citizenship.

- While your son is AUTOMATICALLY a Thai citizen under Thai law, you need the paperwork to prove it.

- Given your son was born outside of Thailand, to prove he is Thai he will need a Thai birth certificate (which when issued will state that he is 'Thai' on it).

- For an overseas born Thai citizen, only the Thai embassy in the country of birth has the authoritiy to issue him that Thai birth certificate. In your case, this means Canberra. He WILL NOT be able to get a Thai BC issued for him in Thailand.

- He'll also need a Thai passport, this again, can only be issued in Canberra in the first instance (though the embassy will organise semi-regular trips to Perth to take applications there).

Your son will then need to enter Thailand on the Thai passport. He then needs to take that, his BC, his mum, and ideally you, to the local municipality and get registered on the house registration.

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

Why are you doing this? If you are moving back to Thailand, then that is fine, all Thai citizens resident in Thailand need to be registered on the house registration.

If not living in Thailand, I suggest you best not. Two reasons:

1) you don't need to

2) this will put him on the radar for military service (nb...if he lives outside of Thailand till he is 30 he doesn't need to do this)

As mentioned, there is no rush for not getting the ID number. As an Australian born Thai citizen like your son, I didn't get put on the house book till i was 30. No problem in leaving it that late.

BUT - you should organise his Thai BC via the embassy in Canberra as a start.

[krisb]

you da man samran! thumbs up

[krisb]

You need to hold your horses and take 5 steps back. You won't be able to get him on the house registration for now.

Question:

Was your son born to a Thai parent in Australia?

Assuming the answer is 'yes' you need to have done/understand the following:

- Given your son was born in Australia to a Thai parent (and presuming an Australian parent) he has dual Thai/Australian citizenship.

- While your son is AUTOMATICALLY a Thai citizen under Thai law, you need the paperwork to prove it.

- Given your son was born outside of Thailand, to prove he is Thai he will need a Thai birth certificate (which when issued will state that he is 'Thai' on it).

- For an overseas born Thai citizen, only the Thai embassy in the country of birth has the authoritiy to issue him that Thai birth certificate. In your case, this means Canberra. He WILL NOT be able to get a Thai BC issued for him in Thailand.

- He'll also need a Thai passport, this again, can only be issued in Canberra in the first instance (though the embassy will organise semi-regular trips to Perth to take applications there).

Your son will then need to enter Thailand on the Thai passport. He then needs to take that, his BC, his mum, and ideally you, to the local municipality and get registered on the house registration.

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

Why are you doing this? If you are moving back to Thailand, then that is fine, all Thai citizens resident in Thailand need to be registered on the house registration.

If not living in Thailand, I suggest you best not. Two reasons:

1) you don't need to

2) this will put him on the radar for military service (nb...if he lives outside of Thailand till he is 30 he doesn't need to do this)

As mentioned, there is no rush for not getting the ID number. As an Australian born Thai citizen like your son, I didn't get put on the house book till i was 30. No problem in leaving it that late.

BUT - you should organise his Thai BC via the embassy in Canberra as a start.

said like a true pro! hey does that mean when it comes to retirement, you could live in thailand and get aussie pension?

[bat69]

Awesome information samran. Thanks so much. Discussion to be had with the wife me thinks!

[Lopburi905]

For me when I went to get my Thai Birth Certificate, the Ministry of Foreign affairs did this for me. They took all my translated Documents and sent it to Thai embassy in Canada. About 3 months later, I received my Thai Birth Certificate in the mail. Went to the Amphur, put my name on the house registration got my Thai ID card. After that went to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs with my Canadian passport and Thai ID card, then one week later passport came in the mail. .

Not sure if the same can apply to you, or if my process is was correct but got all done eventually.

[simple1]

You need to hold your horses and take 5 steps back. You won't be able to get him on the house registration for now.

Question:

Was your son born to a Thai parent in Australia?

Assuming the answer is 'yes' you need to have done/understand the following:

- Given your son was born in Australia to a Thai parent (and presuming an Australian parent) he has dual Thai/Australian citizenship.

- While your son is AUTOMATICALLY a Thai citizen under Thai law, you need the paperwork to prove it.

- Given your son was born outside of Thailand, to prove he is Thai he will need a Thai birth certificate (which when issued will state that he is 'Thai' on it).

- For an overseas born Thai citizen, only the Thai embassy in the country of birth has the authoritiy to issue him that Thai birth certificate. In your case, this means Canberra. He WILL NOT be able to get a Thai BC issued for him in Thailand.

- He'll also need a Thai passport, this again, can only be issued in Canberra in the first instance (though the embassy will organise semi-regular trips to Perth to take applications there).

Your son will then need to enter Thailand on the Thai passport. He then needs to take that, his BC, his mum, and ideally you, to the local municipality and get registered on the house registration.

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

Why are you doing this? If you are moving back to Thailand, then that is fine, all Thai citizens resident in Thailand need to be registered on the house registration.

If not living in Thailand, I suggest you best not. Two reasons:

1) you don't need to

2) this will put him on the radar for military service (nb...if he lives outside of Thailand till he is 30 he doesn't need to do this)

As mentioned, there is no rush for not getting the ID number. As an Australian born Thai citizen like your son, I didn't get put on the house book till i was 30. No problem in leaving it that late.

BUT - you should organise his Thai BC via the embassy in Canberra as a start.

said like a true pro! hey does that mean when it comes to retirement, you could live in thailand and get aussie pension?

You would be eligible for an Aussie Aged Pension when moving to Thailand so long as you are resident in Australia when applying & met the criteria at that time. Criteria is a moving target and the next change comes into effect 2014