just a warning that the guys with the maschetes and sticks that march round like apes attacking each other will attack tourists and children if they percieve you are observing or disapprove of them

Warning noted ! if I do see any ape-like geezers marching around the beach, attacking each other with machetes, then I'll avoid them.

Might be worth you getting in touch with the Thai tourist board, embassies, foreign media, BBC, CNN etc to fill them in on your observations

It's long known by *some* that the beach is not safe at night and you only need to read crime news archives to see that foreigners are often targets in very violent assaults. While they're are some volunteer tourist police roaming, they cannot be everywhere and I've heard they go home after a few hours anyway. That leaves opportunists many dark hours to make some money from an unsuspecting tourist. Sad but true.

An American friend of mine was involved with a Thai woman and when they broke things off, her real boyfriend attacked the American on the beach in anger over his income being cut off! Amazing Thailand!

It's safe to say, the reason you don't see regular Thais walking on the beach at night is because they know better. Nothing good can come from a beach road walk at night although some of my friends do it every night without any incident.

Sorry to offend you. I will try to improve my posture and get home from the beach a bit earlier at night.

just grab a stick and join in beats another night in the bar.

just grab a stick and join in beats another night in the bar.

This is the most ridiculous post I think I have ever seen. I have been here or a long time and have never seen these ape like creatures roaming around beach rd with machetes attacking each other or tourists.

It is very VERY rare even more rare then Toronto, Vancouver, New York, London etc. etc. etc that I have heard of any tourist who is minding his own business to be attacked on beach rd.

Can you please take some pictures or video of these ape type creatures attacking each other and tourists?

This is the most ridiculous post I think I have ever seen.

Ain't that the truth.

Some creatures have been known to attack with spiked heels, though.

Well, with all the lights they have put on Beach Rd and after cutting down all the trees, you would think it would be easy for the BiB to keep the peace. Now all we need are some BiB that will actually do their jobs and not just collect rent from Beach Rd vendors.

I saw them too.........

Now all we need are some BiB that will actually do their jobs and not just collect rent from Beach Rd vendors.

Once they've collected the rent they don't hang around for long they go off to spend it.

Not many BIB around after dark in Pattaya.

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Not many BIB around after dark in Pattaya.

With only 300 Pattaya police in total now and taking into account their shifts, areas to work in, different division responsibilities, fixed position stationing etc. you are likely to see less and less of them around in any one spot at any one time.

Just like a Thai to come to a Gunfight with a stick of a Machete.

It is well know that Pattata Beach, especially at night is as dangerous as any place in earth.

Drugged up transvestite muggers, drug dealers, hookers, gangsters, lowlifes, drunks, scammers call this area home.

Even in the daytime there have been plenty of reports of assaults, fraud, scams with police colluding with the criminals.

The Thai police should be of foot patrol 24/7 but they can't be trusted.

It is well know that Pattata Beach, especially at night is as dangerous as any place in earth.

Drugged up transvestite muggers, drug dealers, hookers, gangsters, lowlifes, drunks, scammers call this area home.

Even in the daytime there have been plenty of reports of assaults, fraud, scams with police colluding with the criminals.

The Thai police should be of foot patrol 24/7 but they can't be trusted.

PJ - I like a lot of your posts and your efforts to protect visitors from the jet-ski louts are admirable BUT I don't think the Beach Rd area is anywhere near as bad as your post claims. Sure, take a bit of care and don't act like an idiot, but most people would take sensible precautions when out for a walk in the evening, wherever they are in the world.

I live just off Beach Rd and have walked up and down it 100's of times, at all hours of the day and night, and IMHO its OK - its not a tropical paradise / romatic idyll etc etc but its way better, and safer, than a lot of the posters here would have you believe.

Have seen a few ape like looking things of the 3rd gender walking along there and no doubt have a very large weapon in their panties

It is well know that Pattata Beach, especially at night is as dangerous as any place in earth.

Drugged up transvestite muggers, drug dealers, hookers, gangsters, lowlifes, drunks, scammers call this area home.

Even in the daytime there have been plenty of reports of assaults, fraud, scams with police colluding with the criminals.

The Thai police should be of foot patrol 24/7 but they can't be trusted.

PJ - I like a lot of your posts and your efforts to protect visitors from the jet-ski louts are admirable BUT I don't think the Beach Rd area is anywhere near as bad as your post claims. Sure, take a bit of care and don't act like an idiot, but most people would take sensible precautions when out for a walk in the evening, wherever they are in the world.

I live just off Beach Rd and have walked up and down it 100's of times, at all hours of the day and night, and IMHO its OK - its not a tropical paradise / romatic idyll etc etc but its way better, and safer, than a lot of the posters here would have you believe.

I have to agree with this. I avoid Beach Rd anytime after the witching hour until dawn. Too many zombies about for my liking.

One person sees an angel while another person sees a whore

One person sees a normal Thai while the other person sees an ape

One person sees two people exchanging money while the other person see drug dealers

One person walks through paradise while the other walks through the Battle for the Planet of the Apes

One person sees a man with a cane while the other sees a thug with a stick

One sees a policeman talking with a tourist while the other sees a corrupt cop

One man sees a girl with a dick while the other sees a dick with a girl

I've never had problems anywhere in Thailand with Thais, only with farangs. Not putting down farangs as of course I am a farang but it's the truth.

Swedish Man Arrested For Allegedly Killing New Zealand Tourist In Pattaya

Happened last night, story HERE

If You don't feel comfortable..don't go there, especially not after dark..

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They get very annoyed if you criticize their outfits

♫♫ I hate every ape I see, From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z. ♫♫

Maybe I`ve been lucky but have never had a problem walking along Beach Road at any time.

Whilst I wouldn`t recommend it for a late night walk, it`s probably safer than some towns back in the UK on a Friday or Saturday night

Should be safe now, i read the report on here extra volunteers being brought in and more police out and about for the coming high season. Sep, Oct, Nov !!! They are very high profile at night on 2nd Road, doing helmet and licence checks upto and after 2am.

Out of 300 officers must be at least double that in volunteers, most of the licence checkes done by volunteers with a real cop with them. how to tell, the ones with out guns are volunteers which seem to be by far the majority.

I also saw two pick up loads of "sex workers" on the way to soi 9 on Friday night, to pay there 100 baht fine. So think should be safe now.

Also the cutting down of the trees.

Still puzzled why many sex workers across the road from soi 9 and apparantly use the loo's in the station for toilet purposes.

Ive been here a long time and in general the beach is safe, Its just the last few weeks that yabad out gangs have been attacking each other on the beach, it happens very quickly and then they are gone but they are so hyped that they will attack anything while they are doing their thing, I have twice in the last week seen tourists attacted as these guys have been doing this, usually in the royal garden area. Having spent time on the beach I also know there is no police presence there at all until about 11 when they come looking for women and ladyboys to take back to the police station and fine

Im not suggesting people stay away from the beach, just saying that these guys are hyped on drugs and are there to commit violence and if you accidently get in their way like the family group with a baby in a pushchair and the asian tourists that I saw you will be attacted

the state of the footpath and policing in what is a very busy tourist area can only be described as pathetic

Ive been here a long time and in general the beach is safe, Its just the last few weeks that yabad out gangs have been attacking each other on the beach, it happens very quickly and then they are gone but they are so hyped that they will attack anything while they are doing their thing, I have twice in the last week seen tourists attacted as these guys have been doing this, usually in the royal garden area. Having spent time on the beach I also know there is no police presence there at all until about 11 when they come looking for women and ladyboys to take back to the police station and fine

Im not suggesting people stay away from the beach, just saying that these guys are hyped on drugs and are there to commit violence and if you accidently get in their way like the family group with a baby in a pushchair and the asian tourists that I saw you will be attacted

the state of the footpath and policing in what is a very busy tourist area can only be described as pathetic

Ive been here a long time and in general the beach is safe, Its just the last few weeks that yabad out gangs have been attacking each other on the beach, it happens very quickly and then they are gone but they are so hyped that they will attack anything while they are doing their thing, I have twice in the last week seen tourists attacted as these guys have been doing this, usually in the royal garden area. Having spent time on the beach I also know there is no police presence there at all until about 11 when they come looking for women and ladyboys to take back to the police station and fine

Im not suggesting people stay away from the beach, just saying that these guys are hyped on drugs and are there to commit violence and if you accidently get in their way like the family group with a baby in a pushchair and the asian tourists that I saw you will be attacted

the state of the footpath and policing in what is a very busy tourist area can only be described as pathetic

Yep. It's a family destination...

Whet ever happened to the jet ski gang that tracked the tourists back to the Marriott hotel to attack them?

They were arrested. Any follow up?

Same-same with the other tourists that have been beaten up, held hostage etc.

Has anybody ever been held accountable?

The government is only putting a bandaid over an open sore. I search the news reports. This way I can get an idea of what is really going on. IMHO - some 'advice' may be coming from people who have 'investments' in Pattaya.

Never any lack of conspiracy theorists on the forum.

Glad I didn't read this post while over there - I really enjoyed my night walks along the beach up until a week ago. Was always eyes open but never felt threatened.