Shareholders Need Work Permit ?

[mads]

I've just been informed by the labour department, that for shareholders of a company to attend board meetings you need a work permit ?

Is this really the case ? Sounds crazy to me.

[Soutpeel]

Being solely a shareholder you dont need a WP, however, if one attends a sharholders meetings and as part of this meeting one is signing documents related to the company then yes this can be interpreted as working and would require a WP as you are taking an avtive role in the operation of the company.

However this would be easily solved, get a temporary WP good for 14 days to attend your meeting and you would be in the clear

[Lite Beer]

Moved to The Visa and Work Permit Forum

[mads]

Being solely a shareholder you dont need a WP, however, if one attends a sharholders meetings and as part of this meeting one is signing documents related to the company then yes this can be interpreted as working and would require a WP as you are taking an avtive role in the operation of the company.

However this would be easily solved, get a temporary WP good for 14 days to attend your meeting and you would be in the clear

Okay, thanks for the advice. Very helpful.

[gamini]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

[Maestro]

I have deleted two off-topic posts and the replies to them.

[Soutpeel]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

5 Year WP....no such thing as far as I am aware

[Mario2008]

As pointed out, there is no 5 year work permit and a work permit is only given after applying for one with all the proper documentation.

[Paul888]

I doubt that even if there was you would get it "next day".

How much did this work permit cost? Was it cheaper than the magic beans the guy was also selling?

[Soutpeel]

I doubt that even if there was you would get it "next day".

How much did this work permit cost? Was it cheaper than the magic beans the guy was also selling?

Just to put things in perspective, I item under question is the 5 year WP, not how quick a WP could be issued, as a temporary WP could in fact issued the "next day" you can apply and receive these within 24 hours provided you have your ducks in a row

[Dork]

Thailand, whether the Govt is aware (or cares) or not, is paying a price for this silly and vague law. There are MNC's that don't hold regional meetings/seminars in Thailand because of it. Yes they could apply for "temporary work permits" for each and every participant - or they could just hold said meeting somewhere else, which is what many do.

[scorecard]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

How does WP and becoming an Executive Director link?

And what is the definition of Executive Director for these purposes?

Or do you mean that you received an Executive Director WP which is different to a normal WP?

Does an Executive Director WP come with priveleges, perhaps entitlement to a police escort?

Please share.

[Soutpeel]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

How does WP and becoming an Executive Director link?

And what is the definition of Executive Director for these purposes?

Or do you mean that you received an Executive Director WP which is different to a normal WP?

Does an Executive Director WP come with priveleges, perhaps entitlement to a police escort?

Please share.

I am very suprised you dont know about these special conditions, these are given to Ex-SAS and Navy seals who performed secret missions in Thailand on behalf of the Thai goverment

[Morakot]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

How does WP and becoming an Executive Director link?

And what is the definition of Executive Director for these purposes?

Or do you mean that you received an Executive Director WP which is different to a normal WP?

Does an Executive Director WP come with priveleges, perhaps entitlement to a police escort?

Please share.

It did really say "Executive Work Permit -- valid for five years" on the printed paper that the official give me when I handed over the large fee in cash for next day delivery. He was a really nice man.

[Mario2008]

Did you get an official receipt from the labour office?

[Morakot]

Did you get an official receipt from the labour office?

Me? Nope, I blindly trusted him.

[scorecard]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

How does WP and becoming an Executive Director link?

And what is the definition of Executive Director for these purposes?

Or do you mean that you received an Executive Director WP which is different to a normal WP?

Does an Executive Director WP come with priveleges, perhaps entitlement to a police escort?

Please share.

I am very suprised you dont know about these special conditions, these are given to Ex-SAS and Navy seals who performed secret missions in Thailand on behalf of the Thai goverment

OIC, I'll have to brush up on my reading on this subject.

By the way, any special work permits avaialble for people with only one leg, and who work only on Tuesdays? But then again maybe it all depends on whether your a manager compared to if your not a manager.

[bubba]

A WP is only issued following your approval for a non-immigrant B visa. The WP must exactly correspond to the valid dates of your non-immigrant B visa, including extensions. There is no such thing as a five year non-immgrant B visa or extension. The longest validity for a WP that I have personally seen is two years, and that was for a BOI accredited company.

If you gave a nice man in a suit a large sum of money in exchange for a document that is supposed to be a five year WP and it does not correspond to a five year non-immigrant B visa, then it is invalid and probably a scam. You are also probably working illegally now. Perhaps you and your "consultant" should schedule a meeting together at the Labour Department or Immigration. Chances are he won't do that, that is if you can still contact him.

[terryp]

complete bull*hit do people who live in fantasy land get a kick from believing this garbage that they spew...any how how is your *Hyatt International Hotel doing...* insert your own international chain hotel here

Also if you were charged for working without a work permit...how come you were not deported?...guess the other 70% was owned by a labour dept official (the boss no less)

[TravelerEastWest]

A WP is only issued following your approval for a non-immigrant B visa. The WP must exactly correspond to the valid dates of your non-immigrant B visa, including extensions. ....

I think you are mistaken there is no need for the B visa - for example you can have an O "marriage" visa and easily get a work permit and there will be no connection at all between your visa and work permit dates - unless by coincidence...

[Tatsujin]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

[lopburi3]

A WP is only issued following your approval for a non-immigrant B visa. The WP must exactly correspond to the valid dates of your non-immigrant B visa, including extensions. ....

I think you are mistaken there is no need for the B visa - for example you can have an O "marriage" visa and easily get a work permit and there will be no connection at all between your visa and work permit dates - unless by coincidence...

As said a work permit is not keyed to a visa period - the only requirement is that you have a non immigrant visa that labor will issue a work permit on at the time of issue.

[Tanaka]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

How does WP and becoming an Executive Director link?

And what is the definition of Executive Director for these purposes?

Or do you mean that you received an Executive Director WP which is different to a normal WP?

Does an Executive Director WP come with priveleges, perhaps entitlement to a police escort?

Please share.

I am very suprised you dont know about these special conditions, these are given to Ex-SAS and Navy seals who performed secret missions in Thailand on behalf of the Thai goverment

OIC, I'll have to brush up on my reading on this subject.

By the way, any special work permits avaialble for people with only one leg, and who work only on Tuesdays? But then again maybe it all depends on whether your a manager compared to if your not a manager.

Oh dear. Have you not checked the latest Labour Dep Issues? You cannot have a WP for work on Tuesdays regardless of type of work. You can only have it for work on Wednesdays AND Thursdays. And one-legged people are deemed unfit to work. Where your brain is situated is irrelevant as they do not have measures for that.

[gamini]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

5 Year WP....no such thing as far as I am aware

It was sometime back and maybe you are right and it was for not for five years. But I did not have to make an application. My Thai friend and partner arranged everything and the official that tried to charge me delivered it to me the next day and apologized. Needless to say my Thai friend was pretty influential.

[bubba]

A WP is only issued following your approval for a non-immigrant B visa. The WP must exactly correspond to the valid dates of your non-immigrant B visa, including extensions. ....

I think you are mistaken there is no need for the B visa - for example you can have an O "marriage" visa and easily get a work permit and there will be no connection at all between your visa and work permit dates - unless by coincidence...

As said a work permit is not keyed to a visa period - the only requirement is that you have a non immigrant visa that labor will issue a work permit on at the time of issue.

OK, but my experience going back more than a decade is that the WP validity date must precisely match the validity of my visa, and it always has. I didn't mean that the the WP validity begins with the date of the non-immigrant B, but that the expiry date will match the visa, and dates will continue to match with each ensuing extension. On the expiry date of your visa, without an extension, your WP will also expire.

Sorry I forgot to include non-imm O as a valid visa for a WP, and thanks for adding.

[bubba]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

How does WP and becoming an Executive Director link?

And what is the definition of Executive Director for these purposes?

Or do you mean that you received an Executive Director WP which is different to a normal WP?

Does an Executive Director WP come with priveleges, perhaps entitlement to a police escort?

Please share.

It did really say "Executive Work Permit -- valid for five years" on the printed paper that the official give me when I handed over the large fee in cash for next day delivery. He was a really nice man.

I don't understand this exchange. Gamini said:

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

And later Morakot said:

It did really say "Executive Work Permit -- valid for five years" on the printed paper that the official give me when I handed over the large fee in cash for next day delivery. He was a really nice man.

Are Gamini and Morakot one and the same? Or is this all just a big wind-up?

[Soutpeel]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

How does WP and becoming an Executive Director link?

And what is the definition of Executive Director for these purposes?

Or do you mean that you received an Executive Director WP which is different to a normal WP?

Does an Executive Director WP come with priveleges, perhaps entitlement to a police escort?

Please share.

It did really say "Executive Work Permit -- valid for five years" on the printed paper that the official give me when I handed over the large fee in cash for next day delivery. He was a really nice man.

I don't understand this exchange. Gamini said:

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

And later Morakot said:

It did really say "Executive Work Permit -- valid for five years" on the printed paper that the official give me when I handed over the large fee in cash for next day delivery. He was a really nice man.

Are Gamini and Morakot one and the same? Or is this all just a big wind-up?

Its a wind up...stay wil the plot dear boy

[shaurene]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

Hi I am a director of a company that we set up to supply retail groups products from New Zealand and China. Would I be able to obtain similar work permit as you have.

[Soutpeel]

I was charged for working without a permit by a labour department official who caught me taking an inventory of a hotel. When I finally convinced them that I owned 30% of the hotel they gave me a five year work permit the next day and I was able to become an executive director.

Hi I am a director of a company that we set up to supply retail groups products from New Zealand and China. Would I be able to obtain similar work permit as you have.

If you have the required captialisation in the company and the correct number of Thai employees then yes, BTW some incorrect information in the post your repsonding to...ie no such thing as a 5 year WP

[rakman]

Thailand, whether the Govt is aware (or cares) or not, is paying a price for this silly and vague law. There are MNC's that don't hold regional meetings/seminars in Thailand because of it. Yes they could apply for "temporary work permits" for each and every participant - or they could just hold said meeting somewhere else, which is what many do.

Canada isn't much better in that regard.