Tesco And 7-11 Enslaving Thai's To Work 9 Hour Days For 220 Baht

[Gary A]

We live in the boonies of Loei province. Employers here pay whatever it takes to get decent help. My wife struggles to find workers for the farm and if she does find any willing to work, they won't work for less than 300 baht per day.

Working/loafing for much less in an air conditioned environment has more appeal than sweating in the fields.

Conclusion - most people would do anything rather than work for you?

No one works for me, they have to work for my wife. Now that you mention it, I wouldn't want to work for her either.

[downtown]

yes Bulgarian companies are world leaders in sustainability, fair trade, career development and vodka-filled turnips

[cowslip]

We live in the boonies of Loei province. Employers here pay whatever it takes to get decent help. My wife struggles to find workers for the farm and if she does find any willing to work, they won't work for less than 300 baht per day.

Working/loafing for much less in an air conditioned environment has more appeal than sweating in the fields.

Conclusion - most people would do anything rather than work for you?

No one works for me, they have to work for my wife. Now that you mention it, I wouldn't want to work for her either.

"you" can be plural

[IsaanAussie]

I am in the same position as GaryA in a rural area and find it very hard to find good labour. For anyone who hasn't tried, I might suggest you give it a try before commenting.

[nev]

I am in the same position as GaryA in a rural area and find it very hard to find good labour. For anyone who hasn't tried, I might suggest you give it a try before commenting.

So true we have to contract our workers and keep them busy all year, if not when it is time to cut the sugar cane, no workers a big problem.

[sbk]

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[omnilangur]

We live in the boonies of Loei province. Employers here pay whatever it takes to get decent help. My wife struggles to find workers for the farm and if she does find any willing to work, they won't work for less than 300 baht per day.

Working/loafing for much less in an air conditioned environment has more appeal than sweating in the fields.

Conclusion - most people would do anything rather than work for you?

300 b

Exactly, I dont think they make 300 baht a day in Tesco in Loei and also they lose the 30 baht Free Medical care once they start working for a corporation like tesco or 7-11, even after my GF quit after working only 3 weeks there she is not able to get the government care at the hospital. We should make a BOYCOTT for Tesco, another stupid Brittish corporation spilling crap all over the world like BP..

You <deleted>. They dont lose the 30b scheme they gain the social security scheme which actually gives more benefits. Get your facts right. Also when leaving employment your (ex) gf can still pay into the scheme (545b per month) for the benefits.

Also currently the minimum wage for loei is 241b per day. Most companies are paying more than this after probation.

sent from my ..................#

IF she isnt working how can she pay 550 bAht a month for benefits, and you dont need to get insulting with me like a lowlife.

I think most of you here could not survive on 240 baht a day EVEN if you could stay with the parents of your wife!...lol

[cowslip]

Seems many here don't see past their noses to the big picture and instead like to blame "natives" for their own management problems.

the word "benefit" is often bandied about as if it is some kind of get-out clause - a blanket criticism for anyone who is not as well off as thew poster.

[omnilangur]

Seems many here don't see past their noses to the big picture and instead like to blame "natives" for their own management problems.

the word "benefit" is often bandied about as if it is some kind of get-out clause - a blanket criticism for anyone who is not as well off as thew poster.

Natives of Thailand really don't manage 7-11 or Tesco. I think the Corporate Executives should certianly be the first to step in line in giving a minimum of 300 baht a day for manual labors, they have the MOST money compared to the local 'native' companies so they can AFFORD to pay the Thai people more money! Most of you here lack "Empathy"..

[simple1]

Seems many here don't see past their noses to the big picture and instead like to blame "natives" for their own management problems.

the word "benefit" is often bandied about as if it is some kind of get-out clause - a blanket criticism for anyone who is not as well off as thew poster.

Natives of Thailand really don't manage 7-11 or Tesco. I think the Corporate Executives should certianly be the first to step in line in giving a minimum of 300 baht a day for manual labors, they have the MOST money compared to the local 'native' companies so they can AFFORD to pay the Thai people more money! Most of you here lack "Empathy"..

If the local executive wanted to lobby the H.O. in the UK to increase staff wages beyond minimum wage they would have to present a business case. Let's suppose the business case states an increase if staff productivity; this will lead to less workers on the pay role due to staff attrition. So what would you prefer, over staffing at minimum wage or less staff earning more?

[cowslip]

Seems many here don't see past their noses to the big picture and instead like to blame "natives" for their own management problems.

the word "benefit" is often bandied about as if it is some kind of get-out clause - a blanket criticism for anyone who is not as well off as thew poster.

Natives of Thailand really don't manage 7-11 or Tesco. I think the Corporate Executives should certianly be the first to step in line in giving a minimum of 300 baht a day for manual labors, they have the MOST money compared to the local 'native' companies so they can AFFORD to pay the Thai people more money! Most of you here lack "Empathy"..

If the local executive wanted to lobby the H.O. in the UK to increase staff wages beyond minimum wage they would have to present a business case. Let's suppose the business case states an increase if staff productivity; this will lead to less workers on the pay role due to staff attrition. So what would you prefer, over staffing at minimum wage or less staff earning more?

TOTALLY FACILE COMMENT!

[simple1]

Seems many here don't see past their noses to the big picture and instead like to blame "natives" for their own management problems.

the word "benefit" is often bandied about as if it is some kind of get-out clause - a blanket criticism for anyone who is not as well off as thew poster.

Natives of Thailand really don't manage 7-11 or Tesco. I think the Corporate Executives should certianly be the first to step in line in giving a minimum of 300 baht a day for manual labors, they have the MOST money compared to the local 'native' companies so they can AFFORD to pay the Thai people more money! Most of you here lack "Empathy"..

If the local executive wanted to lobby the H.O. in the UK to increase staff wages beyond minimum wage they would have to present a business case. Let's suppose the business case states an increase if staff productivity; this will lead to less workers on the pay role due to staff attrition. So what would you prefer, over staffing at minimum wage or less staff earning more?

TOTALLY FACILE COMMENT!

To make the above post is in itself facile. You can argue that better staff efficiency leads to increased return on funds, that then contributes to more investment and more staff employed. Is that your view? If not please present your counter argument, rather than a response that contributes nothing

Edited October 26, 2012 by simple1

[cowslip]

If you look at the OP you'll realise that you have completely ignored the crux of the matter; ergo, facile.

[omnilangur]

If you look at the OP you'll realise that you have completely ignored the crux of the matter; ergo, facile.

How could you make a superficial judgement about my looks without even being able to see me yet? U must be the freak spying on me with the bald head and belly hanging out of his binoculars..

[cowslip]

If you look at the OP you'll realise that you have completely ignored the crux of the matter; ergo, facile.

How could you make a superficial judgement about my looks without even being able to see me yet? U must be the freak spying on me with the bald head and belly hanging out of his binoculars..

it rather depends on whether you think OP stands for "Original Post" or "Original poster" - let your ego decide.

Just saw a good comment about this on UK TV...

"it's all the same machine; Tescos, BP...Milletts..... they're all the same"

[omnilangur]

Its all the same multi national machine, I would not be shocked to see every corporation financially linked to one another through the world bank, you guys should go watch the movie "The Campaign" highlarious movie.......

[noob7]

Its all the same multi national machine, I would not be shocked to see every corporation financially linked to one another through the world bank, you guys should go watch the movie "The Campaign" highlarious movie.......

And maybe yo should understand, where you are:

You are in a 'cheap' country, developing. People don't get more income, as they need for a livin. That's in almost all countries in the world the same. And in case, she would get 300 Baht an hour, she would have to pay for Khau Pad 300 Baht, then.

And all other product would be equivalent more expensive.

But economy is maybe not your strongest talent, isn't it?

Edited October 28, 2012 by noob7

[cowslip]

Its all the same multi national machine, I would not be shocked to see every corporation financially linked to one another through the world bank, you guys should go watch the movie "The Campaign" highlarious movie.......

And maybe yo should understand, where you are:

You are in a 'cheap' country, developing. People don't get more income, as they need for a livin. That's in almost all countries in the world the same. And in case, she would get 300 Baht an hour, she would have to pay for Khau Pad 300 Baht, then.

And all other product would be equivalent more expensive.

But economy is maybe not your strongest talent, isn't it?

and it looks like writing isn't one of yours.

Edited October 28, 2012 by cowslip

[SgtPepper]

200 baht per hour for teaching English is bad,

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[theslime]

Its all the same multi national machine, I would not be shocked to see every corporation financially linked to one another through the world bank, you guys should go watch the movie "The Campaign" highlarious movie.......

And maybe yo should understand, where you are:

You are in a 'cheap' country, developing. People don't get more income, as they need for a livin. That's in almost all countries in the world the same. And in case, she would get 300 Baht an hour, she would have to pay for Khau Pad 300 Baht, then.

And all other product would be equivalent more expensive.

But economy is maybe not your strongest talent, isn't it?

Thats it "Eureka" Dont give them a wage rise, and that Fat filled Crispy Crisp and Chocky Milk will be Cheaper and the Developing Country will be happy when they realise that they are helping the First World keep the Benifits. .

[noob7]

Its all the same multi national machine, I would not be shocked to see every corporation financially linked to one another through the world bank, you guys should go watch the movie "The Campaign" highlarious movie.......

And maybe yo should understand, where you are:

You are in a 'cheap' country, developing. People don't get more income, as they need for a livin. That's in almost all countries in the world the same. And in case, she would get 300 Baht an hour, she would have to pay for Khau Pad 300 Baht, then.

And all other product would be equivalent more expensive.

But economy is maybe not your strongest talent, isn't it?

Thats it "Eureka" Dont give them a wage rise, and that Fat filled Crispy Crisp and Chocky Milk will be Cheaper and the Developing Country will be happy when they realise that they are helping the First World keep the Benifits. .

Na, my point wasn't, that it should be still cheap for the first world. My point was, as it is easy to spot on Phuket:

Higher minimum pay, higher prices. As soon, the government is pushing the cash in the hand of the 'normal' people, as soon everything gets more expensive! Some people have to pay this 'more money', they need to earn it. Others only want to get it!

But, btw: less production for the 1. world, because of not cheap enough, anymore, means less money in Thailand. The big Companies are moving to the cheapest production options. Bangladesh, China and India a still waiting in line! To get everything from developing (wages) countries!

Edited October 28, 2012 by noob7

[theslime]

Its all the same multi national machine, I would not be shocked to see every corporation financially linked to one another through the world bank, you guys should go watch the movie "The Campaign" highlarious movie.......

And maybe yo should understand, where you are:

You are in a 'cheap' country, developing. People don't get more income, as they need for a livin. That's in almost all countries in the world the same. And in case, she would get 300 Baht an hour, she would have to pay for Khau Pad 300 Baht, then.

And all other product would be equivalent more expensive.

But economy is maybe not your strongest talent, isn't it?

Thats it "Eureka" Dont give them a wage rise, and that Fat filled Crispy Crisp and Chocky Milk will be Cheaper and the Developing Country will be happy when they realise that they are helping the First World keep the Benifits. .

Na, my point wasn't, that it should be still cheap for the first world. My point was, as it is easy to spot on Phuket:

Higher minimum pay, higher prices. As soon, the government is pushing the cash in the hand of the 'normal' people, as soon everything gets more expensive! Some people have to pay this 'more money', they need to earn it. Others only want to get it!

But, btw: less production for the 1. world, because of not cheap enough, anymore, means less money in Thailand. The big Companies are moving to the cheapest production options. Bangladesh, China and India a still waiting in line! To get everything from developing (wages) countries!

Higher minimum pay=higher prices. Why.? Maybe the Share Holders could take a Cut.

[nanapong]

Should read . then she met an " old fool " on an internet dating site. They both lived happy until his money ran out.

Why do you advance cliches like that? Everyone who met his wife on the internet is an "old fool"? Maybe better an "old fool" than a "old/young tool" with 10 posts.

Sorry Mr keyboard warrior. I didn't realise the amount of posts you make is a measure of someones right to comment. I'll stick with the old fool cliche. Relationships started on the internet seldom work as one party generally has some rather nasty skeletons in the cabinet. In the case of old farang guys meeting much younger Thai ladies. Well it's usually based on the lady wanting a cash cow to take care. As for the old guy he's just after a young trophy where he can get his end away on a regular basis. The probability he's going to be fleeced somewhere along the road is now of no concern. God did give man one cock and one brain. Unfortunately the ability to make both work at the same time was overlooked.

[noob7]

And maybe yo should understand, where you are:

You are in a 'cheap' country, developing. People don't get more income, as they need for a livin. That's in almost all countries in the world the same. And in case, she would get 300 Baht an hour, she would have to pay for Khau Pad 300 Baht, then.

And all other product would be equivalent more expensive.

But economy is maybe not your strongest talent, isn't it?

Thats it "Eureka" Dont give them a wage rise, and that Fat filled Crispy Crisp and Chocky Milk will be Cheaper and the Developing Country will be happy when they realise that they are helping the First World keep the Benifits. .

Na, my point wasn't, that it should be still cheap for the first world. My point was, as it is easy to spot on Phuket:

Higher minimum pay, higher prices. As soon, the government is pushing the cash in the hand of the 'normal' people, as soon everything gets more expensive! Some people have to pay this 'more money', they need to earn it. Others only want to get it!

But, btw: less production for the 1. world, because of not cheap enough, anymore, means less money in Thailand. The big Companies are moving to the cheapest production options. Bangladesh, China and India a still waiting in line! To get everything from developing (wages) countries!

Higher minimum pay=higher prices. Why.? Maybe the Share Holders could take a Cut.

So, you think, all the businesses, that have to pay more, aren't rising the prices, to get this 'more' back?

You expect them really to pay that from their shrinking profit?

You haven't understood the capitalism system, methinks!

Prices rising, people needing more money.

People getting more money, prices need to be increased.

And the government can only cap that product prices, where no 'friends' are in business with.

And the rice, of course!

Edited October 29, 2012 by noob7

[omnilangur]

Actually you can cook your own fried rice in a developed country for about 55 baht depending on how big your portion is. Going to a eatery would cost you around 150 baht for takeout chinese. Ramen Noodles are also dirt cheap at 10 baht a bag in any developed country.

I agree the SHAREHOLDERS and CEO'ss should be taking a billion dollar salary cut instead of cutting the wages of the hardworker and increasing the costs..

[theslime]

Billiton made a Record Profit last year. Aussie Banks are Booming, Asian Economies have excellent growth and Tesco seven/Eleven are opening Stores all over the show. Noob7 You made an assumption that I dont understand the Capitalist System, can you tell me if I,m wrong here. Capitalism exploits workers who have to fight Tooth and Nail to get a rise. Usually losing a lot of Pay that will never be made back. The Capitalist,s leave their Country of Origin to make more Profit, so they can make more Profit, so they can make more Profit et al. Venture Capital for sure should be rewarded but not the Bastards on Wall street who manipulate the market for the sake of Profit and screw the labour that helped. I only passed 8 years of School and thanks to my Union enjoy a better life than some, when we tried to start a Workers Super Fund, like the High End of Town had, they thought the End of the Word was coming, now our fund invest,s in more Building Construction than anyone in Australia. Fair go for 7/11 low paid Workers

[omnilangur]

Man you are lucky you had the FREEDOM and rights to form a Union. People who even THINK twice about forming a union or organizing ones for Tesco or 7 11 have been murdered in the past. we are not dealing with family friendly shopping centers here, these are organized crime outfits comitting capital crimes of Capitalism worldwide!

[downtown]

well if it aint captain lenin himself

[theslime]

well if it aint captain lenin himself

Enron ,oh you shining light for the masses who thanks to you and your Buddies who for some reason despise Socialism but need the masses to pay for your rotten choices. It wasn,t that long ago that Children were working 12 plus hours a day and slaves were, well slaves.

[downtown]

chimney sweepers were great