Thaksin Should Stay Out Of Thai Politics: Panel Chief

[hellodolly]

"If you doubt this, ask yourself one question: Why were all his devoted supporters not taking to the streets at the time of his ouster?"

Answer It takes time to round up that many dummy's.

[philw]

This is a simple thing to say,

but while he lives, his ego won't let him back down, till he regains the power he had pre-coup.

Spoken like a Swahili Spear bearer. Taksin was forcibly removed from office. Taksin, Thailand's legal Prime Minister was elected by a landslide victory in recognition of his substantial achievements in his service to the Thai people.

If you can visualize any grounds on which Taksin could be successfuliy impeached (now on the statute book in Thailand)

I would like very much to hear them.

At the time he was given the bum's rush, Taksin held no office. He was simply keeping the chair warm up until a new election brought about a new PM. Taksin had created an impasse whereby the election could have only have resulted in such new PM being himself, thus the opposition refused to play ball. The people of Thailand, that is to say the indigenous population entitled to vote and not the likes of you, were heartily sick of him and his maniacal ego and were happy the army, as usual, stepped in. (As an aside, this was, in my view, a huge mistake, they should simply have let him implode).

If you doubt this, ask yourself one question: Why were all his devoted supporters not taking to the streets at the time of his ouster?

Maybe they didn't want to get shot ???

[Mosha]

This is a simple thing to say,

but while he lives, his ego won't let him back down, till he regains the power he had pre-coup.

Spoken like a Swahili Spear bearer. Taksin was forcibly removed from office. Taksin, Thailand's legal Prime Minister was elected by a landslide victory in recognition of his substantial achievements in his service to the Thai people.

If you can visualize any grounds on which Taksin could be successfuliy impeached (now on the statute book in Thailand)

I would like very much to hear them.

At the time he was given the bum's rush, Taksin held no office. He was simply keeping the chair warm up until a new election brought about a new PM. Taksin had created an impasse whereby the election could have only have resulted in such new PM being himself, thus the opposition refused to play ball. The people of Thailand, that is to say the indigenous population entitled to vote and not the likes of you, were heartily sick of him and his maniacal ego and were happy the army, as usual, stepped in. (As an aside, this was, in my view, a huge mistake, they should simply have let him implode).

If you doubt this, ask yourself one question: Why were all his devoted supporters not taking to the streets at the time of his ouster?

Maybe they didn't want to get shot ???

What for, throwing flowers at the soldiers?

[asiawatcher]

This is a simple thing to say,

but while he lives, his ego won't let him back down, till he regains the power he had pre-coup.

Exactly and like all true sociopaths, it's a toss up between ego and narcissism. It's a game and he will never let it rest until it is a stalemate or he departs his existence in exile or life.

[Moruya]

This is a simple thing to say,

but while he lives, his ego won't let him back down, till he regains the power he had pre-coup.

Spoken like a Swahili Spear bearer. Taksin was forcibly removed from office. Taksin, Thailand's legal Prime Minister was elected by a landslide victory in recognition of his substantial achievements in his service to the Thai people.

If you can visualize any grounds on which Taksin could be successfuliy impeached (now on the statute book in Thailand)

I would like very much to hear them.

Please explain how Thaksin was prime minister at the time.

Taksin was an ancient king of Thailand and should not be confused with he who fled.

[bangon04]

...and the Royal Thai Police should stay out of law enforcement....

[Buchholz]

"If you doubt this, ask yourself one question: Why were all his devoted supporters not taking to the streets at the time of his ouster?"Answer It takes time to round up that many dummy's.

Because they weren't party to the whole deal like the yellows, Dems & their coerced coalition 'partners' as they weren't invited to Anupong's coalition formation meetings."On Dec 6,

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The post you are answering refers to the coup unless I'm mistaken.

The timeline between hellodolly and birdpooguava exceeds two years.

Sept. 2006 and Dec. 2008

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Edited September 17, 2012 by Buchholz

[birdpooguava]

"If you doubt this, ask yourself one question: Why were all his devoted supporters not taking to the streets at the time of his ouster?"Answer It takes time to round up that many dummy's.

Because they weren't party to the whole deal like the yellows, Dems & their coerced coalition 'partners' as they weren't invited to Anupong's coalition formation meetings."On Dec 6,

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The post you are answering refers to the coup unless I'm mistaken.

The timeline between hellodolly and birdpooguava exceeds two years.

Sept. 2006 and Dec. 2008

We all know very well that the yellows & the Dems were pushing for the coup and had strong ties inside the barracks. Abhisit did not protest the 2006 coup that overthrew Thaksin, or the military junta that ruled Thailand for over a year. A fact-finding panel at the Attorney-General's Office found that the Democrat Party bribed other parties to boycott the 2006 parliamentary election, which forced the constitutional crisis.

Edited September 17, 2012 by birdpooguava

[sausageandmash]

I hardly think the word "insignificant" is either appropriate or accurate.

If it wasn't for native-speaking English teachers, this country's future as part of ASEAN would be a total joke, rather like locals who possess "little man" syndrome.

When will these nobodies realise that it doesn't matter what they say or think about Thaksin, he is not going to listen to them. Thaksin is biding his time now and is happy to do so. He is waiting for THE moment when he will come back here and claim his position of power and at that point he will never let it go again. Plans for a family relocation would not be a wasted exercise

Seriously, would you consider leaving Thailand and relocating your family should he return ???

What about others on here ?

By 'THE moment' do you mean ...

And yes, please, all you farang here who feel that any return of The Guy Constantly Referred To In The Media, (including this forum) would be a threat to your insignificant presence in this country, do relocate yourselves now. As if it matters who is/is not 'In Power'.

Odious he is, PaPa Doc he is not. Miaow ...

[easybullet3]

Thaksin should stay out of Thai politics: panel chief -

Really? you dont say !

but theres no use saying or printing anything about it, because nothing happens anyway! Thaksin and his family and business friends will just do what they want and get away with it.. (as usual)

[hellodolly]

""I think that Thaksin should stop his role in politics," Kanit said in an interview aired on Thai television Monday,"

About as likely to happen as ant eaters stopping eating ants.

[birdpooguava]

What has that got to do with it. Like I aid it takes a long time to round up that many dummy's.

I see you have been a member since January 20 2012.

Right, We have another TV member who thinks if your current TV account is recent you don't have the 'authority' to comment on the situation. Don't see how you come to that incorrect conclusion, but whatever.

The reason of "his devoted supporters not taking to the streets at the time of his ouster" was they were not formed into a group or organisation. If you didn't know; The UDD first formed in 2006 to oppose the military government and the military coup, which overthrew Thaksin five weeks before scheduled elections. UDD organized anti-government rallies during the military government's rule in 2006–2007 and opposed the military's 2007 constitution. The UDD stopped protests after the 2007 general election, which the People's Power Party won. (Note that they stopped protests when the military finally allowed democracy to return)

[Pi Sek]

Autocracies are the opposite of democracies, even if they came to power by popular mandate. This is especially so when they stay on past their term without popular mandate.

[Tywais]

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[Pi Sek]

We all know very well that the yellows & the Dems were pushing for the coup and had strong ties inside the barracks. Abhisit did not protest the 2006 coup that overthrew Thaksin, or the military junta that ruled Thailand for over a year. A fact-finding panel at the Attorney-General's Office found that the Democrat Party bribed other parties to boycott the 2006 parliamentary election, which forced the constitutional crisis.

Yes he did.

[Buchholz]

""I think that Thaksin should stop his role in politics," Kanit said in an interview aired on Thai television Monday,"

About as likely to happen as ant eaters stopping eating ants.

Still, it's always good when there is acknowledgement Thaksin has been having a role in politics.

As fundamental as that basic premise is, it's amazing to see the frequent denials of it.

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[Buchholz]

Thaksin urged to cut Thai influence

AN INDEPENDENT commission investigating violent clashes in Bangkok in 2010 has urged Thailand's exiled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra to remove himself from politics, and warned of another ''escalation to violence''. Truth for Reconciliation Commission Chairman Kanit Nanakorn said Thaksin, the elder brother of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, should ''make the sacrifice in stopping every political role''.

Thaksin, a deeply divisive figure in Thai politics, is believed to be the government's behind-the-scenes power-broker, involved in key decisions and appointments.

While traveling the world in his private jet during six years in exile, Thaksin has made no secret of his intention to return to the country without serving two years in jail for a corruption conviction, which he insists was a political set-up.

Read more:

http://www.smh.com.a...l#ixzz26pnoYLjB

Sydney Morning Herald - Sept. 19, 2012

[Buchholz]

If his sister and Red Shirt Leader Natthawut and Chalerm and Thaksin's lawyer Noppadon are any indication it doesn't look like Thaksin will comply with the Reconciliation Recommendations to quit politics... *surprise, surprise*

Government will act on any 'useful' TRCT ideas, PM says

The Nation September 19, 2012

The government will study the final report from the Truth for Reconciliation Commission of Thailand before making the next move, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said yesterday.

As with previous TRCT reports, the final one will be forwarded for scrutiny by a follow-up panel headed by Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit.

"The report will be examined in detail and the government is ready to implement any recommendations deemed useful and conducive to peace," Yingluck said.

She side-stepped a direct question whether her brother Thaksin would exit politics - as suggested by TRCT Chairman Kanit na Nakorn, saying she believed he would agree to any ideas to bring about political normalcy.

In regard to TRCT Chairman's call for Thaksin to quit politics, Deputy Agriculture Minister Natthawut Saikua said said Kanit should reconsider, as Thaksin just wanted to see justice restored to himself.

Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said the report was not a legally binding document.

Thaksin's lawyer Noppadon Pattama said he had anticipated the findings in the report.

Noppadon said Kanit made a number of conclusions based on perceptions rather than facts. Kanit wrongly blamed Thaksin for the killing of thousands of people during the 'War on Drugs'.

He said Kanit was also wrong to single out Thaksin as the catalyst for the political divide

http://www.nationmul...s-30190680.html

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Edited September 18, 2012 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

the above is certainly reflected in the below....

Reconciliation report faces political apathy

The Nation - September 19, 2012

The TRCT's account of the 2010 red-shirt violence should be welcomed by the public as something to build upon, but politicians and hardcore elements will attempt to bury it

Highly anticipated by the public, the Truth for Reconciliation Commission of Thailand's (TRCT's) report has been released in the hope that it might pave the way to reconciliation after the 2010 crackdown on red-shirt protesters, which claimed 92 lives and injured more than 2,000. Thailand's political reality, however, may make the "truth" presented by the TRCT hard to accept.

The original idea was that, after the official version of the truth came out, the nation would be able to move on and put the events of April and May 2010 behind it. But the TRCT report is unlikely to please anybody, and it is now in serious danger of being put on the back burner.

Neutral observers may naturally regard the report as the most reliable account to date of those tragic events. Its narrative tries to capture the causes and the results of the various incidents, including what went wrong when the Army moved in on the protesters, the government's decision-making, the role of the mysterious "men in black" and the death of the late Major-General Khattiya "Seh Daeng" Sawasdipol.

Of course, some political leaders will react negatively to the report. Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, obviously disturbed by the confirmed existence of the "men in black", has taunted the commission for "not being an investigator", while red-shirt leader and Cabinet member Nuttawut Saikua said the panel "sounds like the Democrats".

The "truth" will satisfy no one, but the nation should at least try to make sense of the report. In spite of its flaws and its limitations, the report has more or less brought some clarity to the dark events of 2010, which deeply affected Thais on both sides of the political divide.

The report of more than 300 pages is designed to lead to solutions and enable Thais to move ahead despite that divide. With the government unenthusiastic about the findings, and the opposition as well as the Army fingered in the report, the document's future looks bleak.

Against the background of highly polarised society, people with different political affiliations will naturally react differently to the report, which suggests that both sides were responsible for the actions that led to one of Thailand's greatest political tragedies.

There has been an attempt to question the integrity of the commissioners in the observation that the commission was set up under former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva. This is despite the fact that the commission's chairman, Kanit na Nakhon, a well-regarded lawyer, was one of the founders of the now-defunct Thai Rak Thai Party. Somchai Homla-or, another member, is also widely known for his work on human rights.

Thai society might need time to make sense of the commission's conclusions, even if they were apparently reached in the most neutral manner possible. TRCT members held hearings and conducted research and interviews to pinpoint the perpetrators of rights violations. There seems to be little if any political bias in the report.

The report might contain some flaws, but it could be the best the nation can hope for right now. Lingering questions and issues can be further addressed by the TRCT, the public and other agencies, who are encouraged to pursue the truth to its end.

Modelled after South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, the TRCT marks a step forward for the nation. The report has drawn so much attention because of the trust that the public has placed in the TRCT. Politically speaking, though, the report may be something that no one wants to touch.

There are, of course, some issues and questions that have to be further addressed and answered. The TRCT, however, is fading into oblivion for the obvious reason that it was set up under the previous government and the current government doesn't seem too pleased with its findings. The TRCT may have made its first and last report, but Thailand's political situation cries out for a mechanism like this to carry on its work. In the end, the public may have to carry the TRCT torch. After all, the effort to reconcile a divided nation cannot rely on the work of one commission alone. We are all in this together.

-- The Nation 2012-09-19

[MILT]

If Mr T took his finger out of the good ship Pheu Thai it would sink in twenty minutes.

It was mentioned in the article that Yingluck can manage the country without her brother. My head actually shook left to right. If it wasn't for her brother she would not be involved in politics. Thaskin needed her to be PM because he could not trust his boys. Her job is to keep her mouth shut and at any cost get him back into the country without facing his responsibility of corruption.

He lives in a country where at one time you would loose your fingers/hand for stealing. To bad he's still got ten.

[Buchholz]

If Mr T took his finger out of the good ship Pheu Thai it would sink in twenty minutes.

It was mentioned in the article that Yingluck can manage the country without her brother. My head actually shook left to right. If it wasn't for her brother she would not be involved in politics. Thaskin needed her to be PM because he could not trust his boys. Her job is to keep her mouth shut and at any cost get him back into the country without facing his responsibility of corruption.

He lives in a country where at one time you would loose your fingers/hand for stealing. To bad he's still got ten.

"Thaskin needed her to be PM because he could not trust his boys"

nor his incompetent brother Payup.

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[spidermark]

If only the Thai govt. had any influence around the world he would have been extradited long ago, tried, convicted, and been in the slammer. That would quiet this buffoon down. But, Thailand continues to not be serious about justice.

Mike Macarelli

Chaiyaphum, Thailand

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