Sex Offender Who Served Time In Thailand Arrested In Canada

[chuckd]

I think that in the US you can be charged for the act of crossing a border with the intent of having sex with someone under 16. The act of traveling with intent is the offense.

WOW!!!

That's a bit over the top!

How does anyone know what you are thinking?

If you have house breaking tools - fair enough - going equipped for house breaking.

However, most every male in the world is "equipped"!

Big brother gone mad!!

Let me just add this. Don't ever try to enter the US with kiddy porn on your laptop or cell phone.

[Basil B]

I have no qualms about people being retried or more to the point re sentenced as long as:

• It is in the public interest
  
• it is for a crime that say carries a sentence of two or more years in their own country
  
• any custodial sentence is reduced to reflect the time already served
  

May be also introduce an offense of bringing ones own country into disrepute, could be used to to restrict future travel.

[laislica]

I think that in the US you can be charged for the act of crossing a border with the intent of having sex with someone under 16. The act of traveling with intent is the offense.

WOW!!!

That's a bit over the top!

How does anyone know what you are thinking?

If you have house breaking tools - fair enough - going equipped for house breaking.

However, most every male in the world is "equipped"!

Big brother gone mad!!

Let me just add this. Don't ever try to enter the US with kiddy porn on your laptop or cell phone.

Ah, you hit the nail on the head - are photos of your Grandchildren in the bath porn?

70 years ago it was normal to have photos of babies in the nude but what is normal today?

In the UK there have been cases of the police stopping a Grandfather making a video of his grandchildren in the park om a public children's play park! is that right?

Has the world gone stark raving mad with political correctness?

Where to draw the line?

When do we stop using commonsense?

Should we allow the big Pharma to force unnecessary vaccines on our children solely for their profit?

In the USA they have even got legislation to protect them from prosecution if their products harm anyone - WHAT!!!!

Why are the food manufacturers allowed to poison our food with artificial sweeteners, MSG etc when they are known to do serious harm.

Not to mention the damage done by pesticides in genetically modified food etc etc etc

When I was a child and we did wrong and were seen by a policeman, he clipped us round the ear and took us to our parents - who then beat the stuffing out of us. We quickly learned not to misbehave.

Today it is against the law to do that - ask yourself which is the better way!!!

Commonsense - that's the way, not a whole bunch of stupid rules with big brother watching your every move and telling you what to think and what to say - or not.....

We need to take responsibility for our actions, both individually and collectively.

Phew - I fell better for that rant

PS - Why would I want to have Kiddie porn on a computer or anywhere else?

There was a time when a naked ankle was considered at the very least erotic, if not pornographic!!!......

For goodness sake get real.....

(I think yoiu may have an intent to do some wrong, therefore we are going to get you - WHAT?)

[Basil B]

I think that in the US you can be charged for the act of crossing a border with the intent of having sex with someone under 16. The act of traveling with intent is the offense.

WOW!!!

That's a bit over the top!

How does anyone know what you are thinking?

If you have house breaking tools - fair enough - going equipped for house breaking.

However, most every male in the world is "equipped"!

Big brother gone mad!!

Let me just add this. Don't ever try to enter the US with kiddy porn on your laptop or cell phone.

Ah, you hit the nail on the head - are photos of your Grandchildren in the bath porn?

70 years ago it was normal to have photos of babies in the nude but what is normal today?

In the UK there have been cases of the police stopping a Grandfather making a video of his grandchildren in the park om a public children's play park! is that right?

Has the world gone stark raving mad with political correctness?

Where to draw the line?

When do we stop using commonsense?

Should we allow the big Pharma to force unnecessary vaccines on our children solely for their profit?

In the USA they have even got legislation to protect them from prosecution if their products harm anyone - WHAT!!!!

Why are the food manufacturers allowed to poison our food with artificial sweeteners, MSG etc when they are known to do serious harm.

Not to mention the damage done by pesticides in genetically modified food etc etc etc

When I was a child and we did wrong and were seen by a policeman, he clipped us round the ear and took us to our parents - who then beat the stuffing out of us. We quickly learned not to misbehave.

Today it is against the law to do that - ask yourself which is the better way!!!

Commonsense - that's the way, not a whole bunch of stupid rules with big brother watching your every move and telling you what to think and what to say - or not.....

We need to take responsibility for our actions, both individually and collectively.

Phew - I fell better for that rant

PS - Why would I want to have Kiddie porn on a computer or anywhere else?

There was a time when a naked ankle was considered at the very least erotic, if not pornographic!!!......

For goodness sake get real.....

(I think yoiu may have an intent to do some wrong, therefore we are going to get you - WHAT?)

Did you ever see the original St Trinians?

Haven't seen it screened in years, suppose it is now classed as kidi porn (school girls in short skirts, stockings and suspenders).

But this is a little diferent to the subject of this thread.

[simple1]

I think that in the US you can be charged for the act of crossing a border with the intent of having sex with someone under 16. The act of traveling with intent is the offense.

WOW!!!

That's a bit over the top!

How does anyone know what you are thinking?

If you have house breaking tools - fair enough - going equipped for house breaking.

However, most every male in the world is "equipped"!

Big brother gone mad!!

Ever heard of the FBI monitoring chat sites, pretending to be underage for stings etc- happens in many western countries with specialised police units

Nope, not being a US citisen I haven't come across that

I see from your profile you're from Spain, Spanish police do monitor P2P file exchanges for child pornography and share intelligence with overseas law enforcement. You would assume that this extends to also monitoring web chat sites. As an example, in Australia, there is a dedicated federal police unit that does engage in sting operations, including alerting relevant agencies on travel movements (intent) Some info on file sharing monitoring at:

http://www.policechi...&issue_id=92009

Edited October 2, 2012 by simple1

[canman]

Dont care what he has done, he did his time. They knew he was comming back so why did they arrest him again? Next u will arrested in your country for speeding here in Thailand?

'Don't care what he has done"?? Get real. He is a convicted pedophile and should have been detained on arrival for at least 2 reasons, Make sure he is on a sex offenders list and give others whom he may have molested a chance to come forward

[jshorts]

Dont care what he has done, he did his time. They knew he was comming back so why did they arrest him again? Next u will arrested in your country for speeding here in Thailand?

'Don't care what he has done"?? Get real. He is a convicted pedophile and should have been detained on arrival for at least 2 reasons, Make sure he is on a sex offenders list and give others whom he may have molested a chance to come forward

Are you suggesting this be done for everyone who has convicted a crime of any sort in a foreign country?

[canman]

Dont care what he has done, he did his time. They knew he was comming back so why did they arrest him again? Next u will arrested in your country for speeding here in Thailand?

'Don't care what he has done"?? Get real. He is a convicted pedophile and should have been detained on arrival for at least 2 reasons, Make sure he is on a sex offenders list and give others whom he may have molested a chance to come forward

Are you suggesting this be done for everyone who has convicted a crime of any sort in a foreign country?

I am not suggesting this at all, there is of course a very large spectrum of offences ranging from J-walking to genocide. Using your technique of 'reductio ad absurdum' are you suggesting that a convicted mass murderer who served 2 year sentence in a foreign country be allowed free access back to his home country? Clearly there is a spectrum of offences; where to draw the line as far as futher penalties on arrival goes I don't know but I would suggest a pedo is on the wrong side of the line.

[jshorts]

Dont care what he has done, he did his time. They knew he was comming back so why did they arrest him again? Next u will arrested in your country for speeding here in Thailand?

'Don't care what he has done"?? Get real. He is a convicted pedophile and should have been detained on arrival for at least 2 reasons, Make sure he is on a sex offenders list and give others whom he may have molested a chance to come forward

Are you suggesting this be done for everyone who has convicted a crime of any sort in a foreign country?

I am not suggesting this at all, there is of course a very large spectrum of offences ranging from J-walking to genocide. Using your technique of 'reductio ad absurdum' are you suggesting that a convicted mass murderer who served 2 year sentence in a foreign country be allowed free access back to his home country? Clearly there is a spectrum of offences; where to draw the line as far as futher penalties on arrival goes I don't know but I would suggest a pedo is on the wrong side of the line.

Your suggestion is duly noted. And, the problem remains as to where to draw the line. What do you do in the case of someone who commits an act in a foreign country that breaks no foreign law, but breaks the law of his home country. When the person returns home, do you arrest him?

[canman]

'Your suggestion is duly noted. And, the problem remains as to where to draw the line. What do you do in the case of someone who commits an act in a foreign country that breaks no foreign law, but breaks the law of his home country. When the person returns home, do you arrest him?'

I understand what you are saying and on some level I agree that this subject skirts the fine line of basic rights and justice, my point is that there should be no mercy for pedophiles. There is of course the other issue of someone being falsely accused or convicted, the scales of justice are not always balanced but in my opinion they should be weighted on the side of protecting children.

[jshorts]

'Your suggestion is duly noted. And, the problem remains as to where to draw the line. What do you do in the case of someone who commits an act in a foreign country that breaks no foreign law, but breaks the law of his home country. When the person returns home, do you arrest him?'

I understand what you are saying and on some level I agree that this subject skirts the fine line of basic rights and justice, my point is that there should be no mercy for pedophiles. There is of course the other issue of someone being falsely accused or convicted, the scales of justice are not always balanced but in my opinion they should be weighted on the side of protecting children.

I understand what you are saying, too. I also fear that what we consider "justice" does not always operate in the same way as in western countries (and Thailand is a prime example).

I certainly don't have the answers.

However, I do fear that using a foreign country's judicial system as the basis for further punishment is dangerous.

[chuckd]

I think that in the US you can be charged for the act of crossing a border with the intent of having sex with someone under 16. The act of traveling with intent is the offense.

WOW!!!

That's a bit over the top!

How does anyone know what you are thinking?

If you have house breaking tools - fair enough - going equipped for house breaking.

However, most every male in the world is "equipped"!

Big brother gone mad!!

Let me just add this. Don't ever try to enter the US with kiddy porn on your laptop or cell phone.

Ah, you hit the nail on the head - are photos of your Grandchildren in the bath porn?

70 years ago it was normal to have photos of babies in the nude but what is normal today?

In the UK there have been cases of the police stopping a Grandfather making a video of his grandchildren in the park om a public children's play park! is that right?

Has the world gone stark raving mad with political correctness?

Where to draw the line?

When do we stop using commonsense?

Should we allow the big Pharma to force unnecessary vaccines on our children solely for their profit?

In the USA they have even got legislation to protect them from prosecution if their products harm anyone - WHAT!!!!

Why are the food manufacturers allowed to poison our food with artificial sweeteners, MSG etc when they are known to do serious harm.

Not to mention the damage done by pesticides in genetically modified food etc etc etc

When I was a child and we did wrong and were seen by a policeman, he clipped us round the ear and took us to our parents - who then beat the stuffing out of us. We quickly learned not to misbehave.

Today it is against the law to do that - ask yourself which is the better way!!!

Commonsense - that's the way, not a whole bunch of stupid rules with big brother watching your every move and telling you what to think and what to say - or not.....

We need to take responsibility for our actions, both individually and collectively.

Phew - I fell better for that rant

PS - Why would I want to have Kiddie porn on a computer or anywhere else?

There was a time when a naked ankle was considered at the very least erotic, if not pornographic!!!......

For goodness sake get real.....

(I think yoiu may have an intent to do some wrong, therefore we are going to get you - WHAT?)

Calm down. It was a rhetorical comment, not directed at you personally.

[willi2006]

I recommend to read first before writing, e.g. Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia:

"No cure for pedophilia has been developed, but there are therapies that can reduce the incidence of a person committing child sexual abuse. In the United States, following Kansas v. Hendricks, sex offenders that are diagnosed with certain mental disorders, particularly pedophilia, can be subject to indefinite civil commitment, under various state laws (generically called SVP laws) and the federal Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006."

[Ulysses G.]

This is an interesting article on the subject. Would this approach change their sick behavior?

How Can We Stop Pedophiles?

Stop treating them like monsters. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2012/09/stop_childhood_sexual_abuse_how_to_treat_pedophilia_.html

[Scott]

I think we are straying off topic a little bit, but some interesting links.

In my previous life, I worked with sex-offenders for quite a number of years. Most are quite predatory in nature. The link you provided UG, is a different situation. The person appears to be attracted to pubescent boys, which is technically called hebephilia. At least the indication from what he has said is that he was attracted to a 13 year old boy. If what he says about himself is true, he, unlike the topic in this OP, has not acted on his attractions. This seems to show some type of moral fortitude that is lacking in those that break the law.

[Ulysses G.]

I thought it was interesting that he seems to be able to control himself. I had the idea that was very unusual, but the article makes it sound like a fair number of people with this attraction never act on it.

[Scott]

UG, there is a fair amount of information and data on sex offenders, but not on those who do not run afoul of the law. The same is true of psychopaths--there are probably a fair number of them walking in our midst who manage to live rather respectable lives. My guess is there are a number of professions that attract them.

Your fellow in the link probably has a diagnosable mental illness and he and his family seeking and accepting help for it would support this. It sounds like he was reasonably traumatized around 17 with his attraction to his 13 year old friend--which doesn't even fit the 5 year age difference usually set as an indicator of a problem. He may have fixated at that age and just hasn't been able to emotionally develop past that.

[Buchholz]

RICHMOND, B.C. - A British Columbia man convicted in Thailand for sexually abusing children has been set free in Canada

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/convicted+abusing+children+agrees+strict+release+conditions/7338869/story.html

Victoria Times Colonist - ‎2 hours ago‎

[laislica]

RICHMOND, B.C. - A British Columbia man convicted in Thailand for sexually abusing children has been set free in Canada

http://www.timescolo...8869/story.html

Victoria Times Colonist - ‎2 hours ago‎

Excellent, thanks for the article, the man has a horrible record but they have done a great job and quickly too..

Canada's sex tourism laws, enacted in 1997, ensure the country can prosecute a citizen who commits crimes overseas.

According to the RCMP's Canadian Police Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, the law has so far been used five times.

Read more: http://www.timescolonist.com/news/convicted+abusing+children+agrees+strict+release+conditions/7338869/story.html#ixzz28Iyz1wja