chuckd Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Were you offended when Obama returned the Churchill bust? Now...THAT's a real insult to the British people. I would have been, had he actually done it. But since this was another hysterical tea party lie, I wasn't. President Barack Obama shows Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom a bust of Sir Winston Churchill in the private residence of the White House, July 20, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza) See Ulysses G post before this one. Once again, you have been proven wrong about American politics. There were two busts in the White House. The one in the Oval office is the original and was returned as I stated. The original bust is being held in the UK Embassy in DC in the event a future President has enough respect for the UK to request it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 The first debate is finishing. I think Obama won this one. Romney is toast. Romney had to massacre Obama to change the momentum. He did not. The polls won't change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Romney kicked Obama's tail. The record for the last 4 years is hard to defend and Romney hammered it home over and over again. Edited October 4, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I hate to say it, but Romney did edge Obama on this one. Romney was better prepared, on his toes, and Obama was on his heels. I think it will probably make the race a bit closer, but still don't expect Romney to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 The moderation was poor, Romney kept it mostly to the economy, no real blows struck. I'd give that one to Romney. Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) It will soon be very clearly how blatantly Romney lied about the very popular preexisting feature of Obamacare. He tried to fool the viewers that such people are safe if Obamacare is abolished. But he failed to expose his actual position, which is to NOT stop insurance companies from rejecting new applications from people with preexisting conditions. Edited October 4, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) One liberal moderator just said that Obama seemed defensive. He kept looking down, would not look at Romney and often looked dour. That was my impression too. Edited October 4, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Were you offended when Obama returned the Churchill bust? Now...THAT's a real insult to the British people. I would have been, had he actually done it. But since this was another hysterical tea party lie, I wasn't. President Barack Obama shows Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom a bust of Sir Winston Churchill in the private residence of the White House, July 20, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza) See Ulysses G post before this one. Once again, you have been proven wrong about American politics. There were two busts in the White House. The one in the Oval office is the original and was returned as I stated. The original bust is being held in the UK Embassy in DC in the event a future President has enough respect for the UK to request it back. Sorry mate, I showed you the photograph here. There no story here and no Britons were offended. They were, however, offended by Romney's crass comments. Nothing to see here, move along now. Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Burning clean coal ? Increasing military spending by 2 trillion ? Cracking down on China ' when they get out of line ' . Hahaha ! Please ! In the next 2 rounds I expect Romney to be gutted and put on a spit. Obama doesn't have to say too much really. Just let the bumbling idiot bumble. Classic ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 One liberal moderator just said that Obama seemed defensive. He kept looking down, would not look at Romney and often looked dour. That was my impression too. Obama's base loves that. Romney does not deserve respect for what he is trying to do. Kill Obamacare. Trash Medicare. Not trade one dollar of revenue for ten dollars of cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) I'll try again. TV on Android is playing silly buggers. Edited October 4, 2012 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) It will soon be very clearly how blatantly Romney lied about the very popular preexisting feature of Obamacare. He tried to fool the viewers that such people are safe if Obamacare is abolished. But he failed to expose his actual position, which is to NOT stop insurance companies from rejecting new applications from people with preexisting conditions. But how many of the swaying voters will bother delving into the accuracy of both participants? I reckon that will have swayed more to Romney than Obama. Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Thaivisa Connect App Edited October 4, 2012 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Bill Maher - a raving liberal Obama supporter - tweeted that Obama DOES need a teleprompter and Obama is getting killed on tweets and many from his own party. Romney hit a home run. Edited October 4, 2012 by Ulysses G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 All that matters is the swing states where Obama already leads. Targeted ads highlighting Romney's lies. If Romney people think this debate turns around the swing states, which means the election, they are in for a big disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post koheesti Posted October 4, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2012 The debate should be interesting. I wasn't impressed with Romney during the primary debates, but I can't wait to see Obama speak without reading off a teleprompter. I predict, that when the media shows clips of Obama from the debate, they will edit out his long pauses, and "uh"s and stuttering. The man is NOT a great speaker by any stretch of the imagination. He isn't as bad as Bush, and Bush still won a second term so you never know. just watch it live on youtube and you won't have to worry about pro obama editing........ I watched on CNN and all of their analysts gave it to Romney - including James Carville. So it must have been a solid victory for Romney if they didn't have enough to spin in Obama's favor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koheesti Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Were you offended when Obama returned the Churchill bust? Now...THAT's a real insult to the British people. I would have been, had he actually done it. But since this was another hysterical tea party lie, I wasn't. President Barack Obama shows Prime Minister David Cameron of the United Kingdom a bust of Sir Winston Churchill in the private residence of the White House, July 20, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza) See Ulysses G post before this one. Once again, you have been proven wrong about American politics. There were two busts in the White House. The one in the Oval office is the original and was returned as I stated. The original bust is being held in the UK Embassy in DC in the event a future President has enough respect for the UK to request it back. Sorry mate, I showed you the photograph here. There no story here and no Britons were offended. They were, however, offended by Romney's crass comments. Nothing to see here, move along now. Brits weren't even offended when for the Queen's birthday Obama gave her a DVD of his greatest speeches (in NTSC format of course). Obama looked like crap in the debate tonight. Luckily for Obama he has two more opportunities to get back in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 All that matters is the swing states where Obama already leads. Targeted ads highlighting Romney's lies. If Romney people think this debate turns around the swing states, which means the election, they are in for a big disappointment. This is true. As I said, one good debate win by Romney can't win this election when he appears already buried. Both men appeared Presidential and civil, with one exception when Romney made a nasty freeloader reference to Obama enjoying his free house and plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENTHEREDONETHAT Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 In my opinion Romney won hands down, but then I am biased and look for what I want to see, as most people do. But truth be told I think the US is in deep $hit no matter which one wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 All that matters is the swing states where Obama already leads. Voters in the swing states watched the debate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Brits weren't even offended when for the Queen's birthday Obama gave her a DVD of his greatest speeches (in NTSC format of course). Most DVD players now are multiformat. I expect the Queen has a nice Sony Bluray so she can watch 101 Corgis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 All that matters is the swing states where Obama already leads. Voters in the swing states watched the debate too. Yeah, but the undecided swing voters are mostly Low information voter slackers who couldn't really give a toss about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 God, that debate was boring. No sparks flew at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 All that matters is the swing states where Obama already leads. Voters in the swing states watched the debate too. Yeah, but the undecided swing voters are mostly Low information voter slackers who couldn't really give a toss about it. Undecided voters usually vote for the challenger this late in the game and Romney's debate performance was a doozy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoedan Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Just listened to the debate live on the radio. I was very surprised at the performances, Romney much better than I expected and Obama, I felt, was indifferent, even hesitant at times. I'd be surprised if R doesn't get a significant boost from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He'll get a one or two point bounce just for being on stage with Obama. The swing state leads will stand. Debates very rarely determine elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 You are the same guy who just said that he lost the debate and pretty much everyone concedes that Romney won. Somehow, I do not buy that spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Just listened to the debate live on the radio. I was very surprised at the performances, Romney much better than I expected and Obama, I felt, was indifferent, even hesitant at times. I'd be surprised if R doesn't get a significant boost from this. I can't remember specifically which presidential debate it was in the past, but I've seen it before where the incumbent often feels threatened and entitled to remain in office and comes across badly in the first debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 There you go. The POTUS is absolutely hopeless without a teleprompter! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Even CNN are conceding that Romney took this debate by quite a margin. Where was Obama, he looked completely lost at times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 It is THE RECORD. He can't defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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