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Siripat section (the private section at CMU hospital) gives good care, but the public part is cheaper and often you will have the same doctors.

Regarding price, that totally depends on your condition and subsequent needs.

Good points not all strokes ave the same effect on people. I had a aunt who was paralyzed on one side of her body and had a very difficult time in talking. Of course she had to be pushed around in a wheel chair. My Father died of a stroke.

Many people take baby aspirin to help prevent a stroke it acts as a blood thinner makes the blood less likely to clot.

There is stronger medicines for this but they need a constant check on at least once a month. Mine is Wharfin Every month my doctor checks it and some times has to adjust it.

Slightly off topic, sorry,

But I recently spent yet another week in RAM with serious digestive problems. When examined at Emergency, before being admitted - one of the questions that they asked was which medicines do I take. I gave them the list which included taking a baby aspirin every day. They were aghast and asked me why. I told them I understood that it 'thinned' the blood and may prevent a possible stroke. They shook their heads.

I later asked the consultant about this and he also was adamant about someone, presumably with gastric disorders, taking this medicine. I have always known of the adverse affect that normal dosage aspirin may have on the stomach but I did not consider a baby aspirin, after breakfast, constituting a problem.

An elderly English friend living here in Chiang Mai was taking 2 aspirin regularly each day over a period of about 1 year.

One day he suddenly began passing blood and felt extremely weak then keeled over. He was rushed into the Ram hospital and on examination it was discover that he was bleeding internally from his stomach and had lost almost 3 pints of blood.

The diagnosis was that the acidity in the aspirin had been burning through his stomach walls over a period of time, which eventually caused the haemorrhaging.

I think it would be wise to take professional advice before considering taking daily doses of aspirin on a regular basis.

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Siripat section (the private section at CMU hospital) gives good care, but the public part is cheaper and often you will have the same doctors.

Regarding price, that totally depends on your condition and subsequent needs.

Good points not all strokes ave the same effect on people. I had a aunt who was paralyzed on one side of her body and had a very difficult time in talking. Of course she had to be pushed around in a wheel chair. My Father died of a stroke.

Many people take baby aspirin to help prevent a stroke it acts as a blood thinner makes the blood less likely to clot.

There is stronger medicines for this but they need a constant check on at least once a month. Mine is Wharfin Every month my doctor checks it and some times has to adjust it.

Slightly off topic, sorry,

But I recently spent yet another week in RAM with serious digestive problems. When examined at Emergency, before being admitted - one of the questions that they asked was which medicines do I take. I gave them the list which included taking a baby aspirin every day. They were aghast and asked me why. I told them I understood that it 'thinned' the blood and may prevent a possible stroke. They shook their heads.

I later asked the consultant about this and he also was adamant about someone, presumably with gastric disorders, taking this medicine. I have always known of the adverse affect that normal dosage aspirin may have on the stomach but I did not consider a baby aspirin, after breakfast, constituting a problem.

The diagnosis was that the acidity in the aspirin had been burning through his stomach walls over a period of time, which eventually caused the haemorrhaging.

I think it would be wise to take professional advice before considering taking daily doses of aspirin on a regular basis.

but this is very very common; people being allergic to aspirin; a wife of mine (in the midst of time) had this allergy, BUT her related problem was the 8/9 pints of A rhesus negative blood she needed to replace the haemhorraged batch.

She survived life at the time but didnt survive marriage...oh well..........onto the next (it was...then)

Even after paying for blood tests here and reading copious results I still dont know what blood group I am..

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Siripat section (the private section at CMU hospital) gives good care, but the public part is cheaper and often you will have the same doctors.

Regarding price, that totally depends on your condition and subsequent needs.

Good points not all strokes ave the same effect on people. I had a aunt who was paralyzed on one side of her body and had a very difficult time in talking. Of course she had to be pushed around in a wheel chair. My Father died of a stroke.

Many people take baby aspirin to help prevent a stroke it acts as a blood thinner makes the blood less likely to clot.

There is stronger medicines for this but they need a constant check on at least once a month. Mine is Wharfin Every month my doctor checks it and some times has to adjust it.

Slightly off topic, sorry,

But I recently spent yet another week in RAM with serious digestive problems. When examined at Emergency, before being admitted - one of the questions that they asked was which medicines do I take. I gave them the list which included taking a baby aspirin every day. They were aghast and asked me why. I told them I understood that it 'thinned' the blood and may prevent a possible stroke. They shook their heads.

I later asked the consultant about this and he also was adamant about someone, presumably with gastric disorders, taking this medicine. I have always known of the adverse affect that normal dosage aspirin may have on the stomach but I did not consider a baby aspirin, after breakfast, constituting a problem.

An elderly English friend living here in Chiang Mai was taking 2 aspirin regularly each day over a period of about 1 year.

One day he suddenly began passing blood and felt extremely weak then keeled over. He was rushed into the Ram hospital and on examination it was discover that he was bleeding internally from his stomach and had lost almost 3 pints of blood.

The diagnosis was that the acidity in the aspirin had been burning through his stomach walls over a period of time, which eventually caused the haemorrhaging.

I think it would be wise to take professional advice before considering taking daily doses of aspirin on a regular basis.

If a doctor recommends it they will only recommend one a day and it will be a small dose. Back in Canada we called them children aspirin. Your friend obviously did not consult a doctor and was probably taking the adult ones.

If a doctor recommended two it was probably for some thing else or maybe your friend should get a new doctor.

To be honest I have never heard of any one having a problem with one small one a day. But I have heard of lots of studies that say they will do this and that to you.

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Siripat section (the private section at CMU hospital) gives good care, but the public part is cheaper and often you will have the same doctors.

Regarding price, that totally depends on your condition and subsequent needs.

Good points not all strokes ave the same effect on people. I had a aunt who was paralyzed on one side of her body and had a very difficult time in talking. Of course she had to be pushed around in a wheel chair. My Father died of a stroke.

Many people take baby aspirin to help prevent a stroke it acts as a blood thinner makes the blood less likely to clot.

There is stronger medicines for this but they need a constant check on at least once a month. Mine is Wharfin Every month my doctor checks it and some times has to adjust it.

Aspirin to treat strokes has now been revised in the UK. Here is the Doctors written instructions on my last Annual checkup,2 months ago: "Change Aspirin to Clopidogrel as research says better for preventing stroke". Perhaps a word with your Doctor may be in order?

Waste of time. It was a heart specialist who prescribed the Warfarin and if I suggested any thing else she would probably shoot me. Did the research say Clopidogrel was better than Warfarin. For preventing a stroke?

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When you say 'a very mild stroke' are you referring to a TIA

i dont know what a TIA is

my symptoms were pins and needles .. numbness in my right cheek

lips .. chin .. forehead and pins and needles in all my fingers and toes

and when i told someone about it he said youve had a stroke

the next bit you know and the bill was about 6700 baht but i wasnt counting

money that day : (

dave2

ps.. im virtually back to normal except most of the time i cant feel my toes

at all... a pic ... a pic ... here ya go .. give this puppy a stroke : )

TIA = Transient Ischemic Attack.

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Taking time to learn and remember these 3 simple steps (STR) could save a person's life:
  1. S - Ask the person to Smile
  2. T - Ask the person to Talk and coherently speak a simple sentence such as "It is a sunny day today."
  3. R - Ask the person to Raise both arms

  • And a new step to detect the possibility of a stroke: Ask the person to Stick out his or her tongue.

Experiencing difficulty with any of these simple tasks could be an indication of a stroke. Get to a hospital as quickly as possible--within 3 to 4 hours for the best chance of recovery.

This is a lot catchier:

F.A.S.T.—the Face, Arm and Speech Test

Remembering F.A.S.T. is an easy way to quickly identify the early warning signs of a stroke.

FACE

First, check for facial weakness. An uneven smile or weakness on one side could mean trouble.

ARMS

Next, check for arm weakness. Inability to raise both arms evenly could be another sign.

SPEECH

Finally, check for impaired speech. Slurred speech or difficulty repeating simple phrases could mean a stroke.

More ways to spot a stroke:

Sudden weakness or numbness of face, arm or leg, especially on one side.

Sudden confusion, trouble speaking or understanding.

Sudden trouble seeing in one or both eyes.

Sudden trouble walking, dizziness, loss of balance or coordination.

Sudden, severe headache with no known cause.

Remember, every minute counts. Do not wait. Call 911.

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Taking time to learn and remember these 3 simple steps (STR) could save a person's life:

  1. S - Ask the person to Smile
  2. T - Ask the person to Talk and coherently speak a simple sentence such as "It is a sunny day today."
  3. R - Ask the person to Raise both arms


This may be intended and actually be good advice, but not for me ...

When I was having a stroke this guy came to, I thought, assist.

He proceeded as you suggest:

S - Ask the person to Smile

T - Ask the person to Talk and coherently speak a simple sentence such as "It is a sunny day today."

R - Ask the person to Raise both arms

O

K - Now that you have your arms up in the air anyhow

E - Empty your wallet.

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Sorry, Just couldn't resist the opportunity

It really is very good and serious advice.G

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A friend of mine, who is an retired American nurse who specialized in care of the elderly, sent me this information just a week ago.....

"I just researched hospitals here who provide rtPA, an incredible drug that will totally reverse the effects of a

stroke ie: paralysis, brain damage, etc, if the patient gets to the hospital within 4 hours of the stroke. So far

Sriphat and RAM have it...so if someone thinks they're having a stroke, those 2 are good choices. Just FYI."

So, if you or someone you know seems to be having a stroke -- don't ignore the signs. Get to either RAM or Sriphat hospital emergency rooms immediately and ask about this new drug, rPA.

Is this medicine rtPA or rPA. Where I live English is a little poor. Most doctors do speak English a little but I would like to be sure of what I am asking for.

Thanks in advance

Its....rtPA.....Not exactly a new type of medication. It has been available since the early 1990's . Given by intravenous injection.
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A friend of mine, who is an retired American nurse who specialized in care of the elderly, sent me this information just a week ago.....

"I just researched hospitals here who provide rtPA, an incredible drug that will totally reverse the effects of a

stroke ie: paralysis, brain damage, etc, if the patient gets to the hospital within 4 hours of the stroke. So far

Sriphat and RAM have it...so if someone thinks they're having a stroke, those 2 are good choices. Just FYI."

So, if you or someone you know seems to be having a stroke -- don't ignore the signs. Get to either RAM or Sriphat hospital emergency rooms immediately and ask about this new drug, rPA.

Is this medicine rtPA or rPA. Where I live English is a little poor. Most doctors do speak English a little but I would like to be sure of what I am asking for.

Thanks in advance

Good catch, RipStanley! It's actually known as tPA. According to my nurse friend, it isn't widely available in Thailand. Get yourself to Ram or Sripat! Here are more details from the University of Michigan (Ann Arbor) Medical Health System:

ANN ARBOR, MI -- Emergency room physicians can deliver clot-busting drugs to appropriate stroke patients as quickly and safely as dedicated stroke teams, if they follow guidelines set by national organizations, a new study finds.

That means the closest ER may be the best one when a stroke strikes -- but only if the ER team is prepared to give special thrombolytic drugs called tissue plasminogen activators, or tPA, that can break up a clot and cut the risk of brain damage.

The study also shows too many minutes are lost between the time a stroke hits and the time a stroke victim reaches the ER. That delay reduces the number of patients eligible for tPA, which should only be delivered in the first three hours after a stroke occurs. More education of both the public and ER teams could help reduce delays and increase the chance that patients will get tPA.

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Siripat section (the private section at CMU hospital) gives good care, but the public part is cheaper and often you will have the same doctors.

Regarding price, that totally depends on your condition and subsequent needs.

Good points not all strokes ave the same effect on people. I had a aunt who was paralyzed on one side of her body and had a very difficult time in talking. Of course she had to be pushed around in a wheel chair. My Father died of a stroke.

Many people take baby aspirin to help prevent a stroke it acts as a blood thinner makes the blood less likely to clot.

There is stronger medicines for this but they need a constant check on at least once a month. Mine is Wharfin Every month my doctor checks it and some times has to adjust it.

Aspirin to treat strokes has now been revised in the UK. Here is the Doctors written instructions on my last Annual checkup,2 months ago: "Change Aspirin to Clopidogrel as research says better for preventing stroke". Perhaps a word with your Doctor may be in order?

Aspirins has pros & cons - pro: is the prevention of clots - con: is the heavily increased blood thinning which can (and do) cause vessel bursts that is to say creating bleeding in the brain which like blood clotting also caused a stroke, I know of three chaps who had strokes caused by vessel bursts due to aspirins blood thinning.

In addition aspirins cause a side effect of digestive problems, stomach problems including burping & belching.

There are other natural suggestions to prevent a stroke, fish oil (omega 3) two caps of 1000 mg.a day, and some physical exercise

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I'm surprised to see such widespread condemnation of aspirin as a blood thinner. USA doctors are still prescribing it. That is, the low dose aspirin. I got out of the habit of taking one everyday not long ago and my doctor suggested I restart.

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I'm surprised to see such widespread condemnation of aspirin as a blood thinner. USA doctors are still prescribing it. That is, the low dose aspirin. I got out of the habit of taking one everyday not long ago and my doctor suggested I restart.

Me thinks, you have a doctor who does not keep abreast of current research and recommendations.
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I'm surprised to see such widespread condemnation of aspirin as a blood thinner. USA doctors are still prescribing it. That is, the low dose aspirin. I got out of the habit of taking one everyday not long ago and my doctor suggested I restart.

Me thinks, you have a doctor who does not keep abreast of current research and recommendations.

My doctor is hardly alone in suggesting aspirin. It is only if you have a touchy stomach that you need to be careful. And don't take the 325 mg. size.
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When Hubby and I have our annual physicals, we review our "pill taking" regime with our doctors. As someone posted, it seems to be impossible to find coated baby aspirin here and I'd been splitting one adult aspirin per day for each of us. My doctor said no, that's too much, find the coated baby aspirin. I I finally ordered them from the U.S., along with the fish oil, Centrum Silver and my calcium supplements -- all approved by our doctors. Frankly, the fish oil "upsets" our stomachs more than the aspirin. Nothing like a fish oil burp at 9am!

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If a doctor recommends it they will only recommend one a day and it will be a small dose. Back in Canada we called them children aspirin. Your friend obviously did not consult a doctor and was probably taking the adult ones.

If a doctor recommended two it was probably for some thing else or maybe your friend should get a new doctor.

To be honest I have never heard of any one having a problem with one small one a day. But I have heard of lots of studies that say they will do this and that to you.

Correct.

I think he read somewhere online that taking a couple of aspirin per day can help prevent strokes and heart attacks, but he obviously didn`t do his research properly and paid the price.

As for baby aspirin, I guess that means aspirin in a less potent form more suitable for children, but to be honest I really don`t know for sure either, I`m no medical expert, but I still believe it`s worth taking medical advice before taking any kinds of pills in whatever dosages long term.

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Someone I knew had a fairly severe stroke and received physio at Mckean hospital. It seemed to be very good treatment, a match to what I have seen in Australia. I think the costs there are more reasonable than some especially if you say it is expensive.

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Although I appreciate the suggestions such as those of NancyL (and a lot of it in reference to her doctor's suggestions) and other posters, I think it is dangerous for people to post "my friend sez" recommendations on medications on a forum like this or post their ideas about what medicines to get and where to get them. That's for docs with individual patients with their own individual situations.

I am guilty of over-prescribing myself, as above, for suggesting enteric, "coated," baby aspirin, but (in my defense) I did draw attention to the debate about aspirin as a prophylactic drug for heart attack and stroke, including a warning about the latter. Be careful! Check with a doc about your situation, not your friend!

Or maybe eat an apple every day and keep the doctor away! Uh Oh! Make that an organic apple!!! Oops! Maybe it's green grapes! Nah! It's almond paste! Almond paste?! Nah, has to be hamburgers !!!!!biggrin.png

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When Hubby and I have our annual physicals, we review our "pill taking" regime with our doctors. As someone posted, it seems to be impossible to find coated baby aspirin here and I'd been splitting one adult aspirin per day for each of us. My doctor said no, that's too much, find the coated baby aspirin. I I finally ordered them from the U.S., along with the fish oil, Centrum Silver and my calcium supplements -- all approved by our doctors. Frankly, the fish oil "upsets" our stomachs more than the aspirin. Nothing like a fish oil burp at 9am!

Baby Aspirins are available in most pharmacies in Thailand, the name is - Aspent-M. Asprine. 81 mg, manufactured by OLIC Ltd, Ayutthaya, Thailand.

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Although I appreciate the suggestions such as those of NancyL (and a lot of it in reference to her doctor's suggestions) and other posters, I think it is dangerous for people to post "my friend sez" recommendations on medications on a forum like this or post their ideas about what medicines to get and where to get them. That's for docs with individual patients with their own individual situations.

Whilst I understand what you are saying, I don't think there's anything wrong with posting any kind of information on an adult forum. I would think (hope) that anyone reading medical advice in any form, would check it out first either with their doctor or by extensive personal research. I do realise that there are a small % people who will take information as gospel, but I don't think we should not share information to the thousands who will seek further clarification and use any information wisely. .

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When Hubby and I have our annual physicals, we review our "pill taking" regime with our doctors. As someone posted, it seems to be impossible to find coated baby aspirin here and I'd been splitting one adult aspirin per day for each of us. My doctor said no, that's too much, find the coated baby aspirin. I I finally ordered them from the U.S., along with the fish oil, Centrum Silver and my calcium supplements -- all approved by our doctors. Frankly, the fish oil "upsets" our stomachs more than the aspirin. Nothing like a fish oil burp at 9am!

Baby Aspirins are available in most pharmacies in Thailand, the name is - Aspent-M. Asprine. 81 mg, manufactured by OLIC Ltd, Ayutthaya, Thailand.

Sounds a bit strange..... taking a pill from a company name OLIC ..... oh lick ok but don't swallow ?????

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Tillie, Maude, & Gertrude at the Park

These three old ladies and their dogs were sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation when a flasher approached from across the park.

The flasher came up to the women, stood right in front of them and opened his trench coat.

Gertrude immediately had a stroke.

Then Maude had a stroke.

But Tillie, being older and more feeble, couldn't reach that far.

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When Hubby and I have our annual physicals, we review our "pill taking" regime with our doctors. As someone posted, it seems to be impossible to find coated baby aspirin here and I'd been splitting one adult aspirin per day for each of us. My doctor said no, that's too much, find the coated baby aspirin. I I finally ordered them from the U.S., along with the fish oil, Centrum Silver and my calcium supplements -- all approved by our doctors. Frankly, the fish oil "upsets" our stomachs more than the aspirin. Nothing like a fish oil burp at 9am!

Baby Aspirins are available in most pharmacies in Thailand, the name is - Aspent-M. Asprine. 81 mg, manufactured by OLIC Ltd, Ayutthaya, Thailand.

They are sold under numerous brand names. Some cheaper, some more expensive. That brand you refer to was off-line for a year because the pill making machine was destroyed in the floods. Not sure if they are back on shelves yet but there are many other brands.

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Tillie, Maude, & Gertrude at the Park

These three old ladies and their dogs were sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation when a flasher approached from across the park.

The flasher came up to the women, stood right in front of them and opened his trench coat.

Gertrude immediately had a stroke.

Then Maude had a stroke.

But Tillie, being older and more feeble, couldn't reach that far.

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Tillie, Maude, & Gertrude at the Park

These three old ladies and their dogs were sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation when a flasher approached from across the park.

The flasher came up to the women, stood right in front of them and opened his trench coat.

Gertrude immediately had a stroke.

Then Maude had a stroke.

But Tillie, being older and more feeble, couldn't reach that far.

laugh.png

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