Australian Dies In His Central Pattaya Apartment

[Rimmer]

Australian dies in his Central Pattaya apartment

PATTAYA:--A 63 year old Australian man collapsed and died in his Central Pattaya apartment on Tuesday in front of his wife. Police and rescue services were called to the Pattaya Pat Condo apartments in Soi Nokow, Central Pattaya and to the apartment of Mr. Robert William Greenfield who lives with his Thai Wife Khun Somjit aged 47.

She told Police that on Tuesday Morning she awoke early and heard her Husband being ill in their bathroom. He was also complaining of chest pains. Khun Somjit went to a nearby Pharmacy and purchased medication and when she returned Mr. Greenfield claimed he was feeling much better and refused to take the medicine.

All appeared normal again but Khun Somjit decided to contact her employee and take the rest of the day off to take care of her Husband. She went onto the balcony to clean and heard a loud thud which was her Husband collapsing next to the fridge. She went for help but Mr. Greenfield had already passed-away.

Full story:http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/64864/australian-dies-central-pattaya-apartment/

-- Pattaya One 2012-10-31

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[Jingthing]

RIP.

Tip of the day: Keep full strength aspirin stocked in your home. If experiencing chest pains, etc., place one or two aspirins in your mouth and let dissolve.

No disrespect meant. We can't know if aspirin could have saved Mr. Greenfield, but it does save many people all over the world, everyday.

Edited October 31, 2012 by Jingthing

[meatballs]

RIP.

Tip of the day: Keep full strength aspirin stocked in your home. If experiencing chest pains, etc., place one or two aspirins in your mouth and let dissolve.

No disrespect meant. We can't know if aspirin could have saved Mr. Greenfield, but it does save many people all over the world, everyday.

Good idea. I've been looking for some aspirin but I don't know where to find some. I know they sell tylenol at the 7-11s but I don't know about aspirin. I'm guessing you'd have to ask for it at a standard pharmacy?

[Jingthing]

Pretty much all Thai style pharmacies sell aspirin in strips. Yes, aspirin not tylenol.

[onionluke]

JT , thanks for the tip .

[Basil B]

It is such a pity that so few people know the basics of CPR, yes she was correct to get help, but then if CPR was started with a short time he may have been saved.

I am very much a believer in "Compression Only CPR" when their is only one person attempting resuscitation and would hope that within a few minute help would arrive, or at least another person with knowledge enough to assist.

I hope one day first aid and CPR are mandatory teaching in all schools.

[uptheos]

Pretty much all Thai style pharmacies sell aspirin in strips. Yes, aspirin not tylenol.

You can buy strips of 10 Bayer Aspirin 500mg for 15 Baht in almost any pharmacy (Chiang Mai)

[IamNotaNumber]

You can buy strips of 10 Bayer Aspirin 500mg for 15 Baht in almost any pharmacy (Chiang Mai)

You can buy a container of 100 85mg Aspirin tablets in any supermarket pharmacy in the UK for 50B (equiv). They cost a lot more here.

I take one of those a day with a view to not getting the chest pains in the first place.

[smokie36]

It is such a pity that so few people know the basics of CPR, yes she was correct to get help, but then if CPR was started with a short time he may have been saved.

I am very much a believer in "Compression Only CPR" when their is only one person attempting resuscitation and would hope that within a few minute help would arrive, or at least another person with knowledge enough to assist.

I hope one day first aid and CPR are mandatory teaching in all schools.

You are indeed correct. Current UK Resuscitation guidelines are that you should not bother with breathing but concentrate on chest compressions.

Obviously she did the most important thing, which is to call for help.

Edited October 31, 2012 by smokie36

[bankha]

It is such a pity that so few people know the basics of CPR, yes she was correct to get help, but then if CPR was started with a short time he may have been saved.

I am very much a believer in "Compression Only CPR" when their is only one person attempting resuscitation and would hope that within a few minute help would arrive, or at least another person with knowledge enough to assist.

I hope one day first aid and CPR are mandatory teaching in all schools.

You are indeed correct. Current UK Resuscitation guidelines are that you should not bother with breathing but concentrate on chest compressions.

Obviously she did the most important thing, which is to call for help.

Sorry to say you are incorrect you need to do 2 breaths to every 30 chest comps what is stated at this time in uk law. The no breath law was a year ago now changed back. RIP

[smokie36]

It is such a pity that so few people know the basics of CPR, yes she was correct to get help, but then if CPR was started with a short time he may have been saved.

I am very much a believer in "Compression Only CPR" when their is only one person attempting resuscitation and would hope that within a few minute help would arrive, or at least another person with knowledge enough to assist.

I hope one day first aid and CPR are mandatory teaching in all schools.

You are indeed correct. Current UK Resuscitation guidelines are that you should not bother with breathing but concentrate on chest compressions.

Obviously she did the most important thing, which is to call for help.

Sorry to say you are incorrect you need to do 2 breaths to every 30 chest comps what is stated at this time in uk law. The no breath law was a year ago now changed back. RIP

Interesting. I did a BLS course last month and they were still emphasising the compressions only. I would say do what you feel comfortable with. Chest compression only is easier for someone who has little to no training in my opinion.

[Basil B]

Thank you Smokie.

I would like to know where Bankha got his information from, there is no legislation on the application of CPR in the UK, but different organizations may have deferent recommendations that may often change, having for over 40 years done many first aid courses with a number of different organizations and every time it always seems to change 5:1, 10:2, 15:2, and I actually hav successfully revived someone many years ago so when I first heard of the compression only technique it certainly makes a lot of senses to me if you have no assistance.

I doubt anywhere in the world you would every be in trouble for appling CPR what everway you do it as long as you do not prevent anyone who is more quaified taking charge, if a person has stopped breathing and the heart has stopped or gone into fibberlation then anything is better than nothing.

This video show just how easy it is http://www.redcross.org.uk/What-we-do/First-aid/Everyday-First-Aid/Unconscious-and-not-breathing

But in Thailand it is pointless dailling 999, always get assistance first, and if posible ensure they call the emergencey services first and not their freinds (or Pattaya One) to come and gawp.

On appliying CPR after first checking again for breathing I would give 2 quick and firm compresions to start with and again check for breathing and pulse before comencing continuse compresions.

Also in doing CPR it is possible to fracture the sternum, but it it is better the casualty is alive with a fractured sternum than dead with an un-fractured sternum.

[Naam]

RIP.

Tip of the day: Keep full strength aspirin stocked in your home. If experiencing chest pains, etc., place one or two aspirins in your mouth and let dissolve.

No disrespect meant. We can't know if aspirin could have saved Mr. Greenfield, but it does save many people all over the world, everyday.

sorry JT but this advice is . being a cardiac patient with a "retreaded" heart i'm quite well informed that Aspirin does not help at all when a cardiac arrest is about to hit. in this case only fast working drugs can give some relief till the emergency crew arrives.

[Rimmer]

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[Jingthing]

RIP.

Tip of the day: Keep full strength aspirin stocked in your home. If experiencing chest pains, etc., place one or two aspirins in your mouth and let dissolve.

No disrespect meant. We can't know if aspirin could have saved Mr. Greenfield, but it does save many people all over the world, everyday.

sorry JT but this advice is . being a cardiac patient with a "retreaded" heart i'm quite well informed that Aspirin does not help at all when a cardiac arrest is about to hit. in this case only fast working drugs can give some relief till the emergency crew arrives.

Thanks for sharing your opinion about this. However, I think people will find that it is now very mainstream medical advice for emergency suspected heart attack pain scenarios. Anyone can easily do their own research and find multiple mainstream medical sources giving the same advice. But good you brought this up as of course there are some people who shouldn't be taking the aspirin, as noted below.

The 9–1–1 operator or EMS technician can

give you advice. You might be told to crush

or chew an aspirin if you’re not allergic, unless

there is a medical reason for you not to

take one. Aspirin taken during a heart attack

can limit the damage to your heart and save

your life.

http://www.nhlbi.nih...ttack_fs_en.pdf

Chew a regular-strength aspirin. Aspirin reduces blood clotting, which can help blood flow through a narrowed artery that's caused a heart attack. However, don't take aspirin if you are allergic to aspirin, have bleeding problems or take another blood-thinning medication, or if your doctor previously told you not to do so.

http://www.mayoclini...st-pain/FA00036 Edited November 1, 2012 by Jingthing

[chiangmaikelly]

I take 5 pills daily for my heart on my doctors instructions one of them is a baby aspirin . I also on doctors instructions carry, Hartsorb pills. If I have a chest pain I am to take a Hartsorb and if the pain goes away I'm good if not I go to the hospital. And no Viagra for 4 hours if taking Hartsorb.

[davejones]

If you have chest pains then you should get to the hospital ASAP.

[pattayadingo]

I keep my Nitrogen sprays handy. 1 in the bedroom and one downstairs. Any chest pain and I spray it under my tongue. If the pain goes away, all well and good, if not then it is a trip to the doctor / hospital.

It is sometimes hard to tell the difference between minor heart pain (angina) and a build up of wind but always better safe than sorry.

I too take half aspirin daily on doctors orders since my heart attack several years ago.

Yes, his wife did the correct thing by calling for help and she at least did go to the pahrmacy too. That show to me that she did care.

[Jingthing]

Obviously people with a previous history of cardiac events should follow the specific instructions of their doctors. I was mainly speaking of people in general without a history of heart attacks.

[griffer]

Boots actually stock something called Cardiprin 100 which is asprin and glycine for daily use.

I prefer to buy my medicines from Boots.

[Jingthing]

Boots actually stock something called Cardiprin 100 which is asprin and glycine for daily use.

I prefer to buy my medicines from Boots.

That is low dose aspirin, for DAILY therapy and prevention. Doing that is somewhat controversial as it increases risk of internal bleeding. It's probably something people should discuss with a doctor, for many the risk might not be worth the potential benefit.

What I was talking about before is using full dose aspirin (not swallowed, crushed/dissolved in the mouth) as an emergency measure for people who think they actually might be in the middle of a heart attack.

Edited November 1, 2012 by Jingthing

[whiteman]

I am unlucky I am allergic to asprin

[Jingthing]

If you have chest pains then you should get to the hospital ASAP.

Absolutely. However, realistically if everyone with just chest pains went to the hospital every time there would be a huge queue at the hospital as most chest pains turn out to be heartburn, anxiety, muscular, or countless other things. Edited November 1, 2012 by Jingthing

[masaomi]

I don't believe a single word she's saying. Dead man tells no tales! Is there some kind of anti-Farang in Phuket and Pattaya? So many reported deaths. What about the ones that goes unreported?

[konfuzed]

Should be mandatory viewing for all...

RIP

[chiangmaikelly]

If you have chest pains then you should get to the hospital ASAP.

Absolutely. However, realistically if everyone with just chest pains went to the hospital every time there would be a huge queue at the hospital as most chest pains turn out to be heartburn, anxiety, muscular, or countless other things.

I lived in Pattaya for a number of years I think old guys there should all have a heart check. If you go to the doc and ask him what to do in case of a heart attack it's not a bad ides.

I mean a lot of old fellows in Pattaya are involved in advanced cardio exercise programs that involve high levels of exertion for short periods of time as in running away from knife wielding significant others, motorcycle taxi drivers and jet ski operators to say nothing about the rigors of dancing on stage with your favorite personal physical trainer.

Heat attacks or any kind of cardiac event may be painful or maybe not. Never hurts to be prepared.

Edited November 1, 2012 by chiangmaikelly

[Dap]

It is such a pity that so few people know the basics of CPR, yes she was correct to get help, but then if CPR was started with a short time he may have been saved.

I am very much a believer in "Compression Only CPR" when their is only one person attempting resuscitation and would hope that within a few minute help would arrive, or at least another person with knowledge enough to assist.

I hope one day first aid and CPR are mandatory teaching in all schools.

Absolutely!

[magmur]

answer to meatballs

you need to ask for Bayer aspirin, this is the trade name here, at every boots outlet you'll find it right in front of the cashier next to strepsils etc, in strips of 10tablets, no package, sometimes 2 or 5 strips in a clear cover, but you can ask for 1 strip its 15 or 20B

[bridge2bridge]

RIP.

Tip of the day: Keep full strength aspirin stocked in your home. If experiencing chest pains, etc., place one or two aspirins in your mouth and let dissolve.

No disrespect meant. We can't know if aspirin could have saved Mr. Greenfield, but it does save many people all over the world, everyday.

Be careful if you use aspirin for a prolonge

Be careful using aspirin for a prolonged period of time as it can cause ulcers.

[bankha]

Thank you Smokie.

I would like to know where Bankha got his information from, there is no legislation on the application of CPR in the UK, but different organizations may have deferent recommendations that may often change, having for over 40 years done many first aid courses with a number of different organizations and every time it always seems to change 5:1, 10:2, 15:2, and I actually hav successfully revived someone many years ago so when I first heard of the compression only technique it certainly makes a lot of senses to me if you have no assistance.

I doubt anywhere in the world you would every be in trouble for appling CPR what everway you do it as long as you do not prevent anyone who is more quaified taking charge, if a person has stopped breathing and the heart has stopped or gone into fibberlation then anything is better than nothing.

This video show just how easy it is http://www.redcross....d-not-breathing

But in Thailand it is pointless dailling 999, always get assistance first, and if posible ensure they call the emergencey services first and not their freinds (or Pattaya One) to come and gawp.

On appliying CPR after first checking again for breathing I would give 2 quick and firm compresions to start with and again check for breathing and pulse before comencing continuse compresions.

Also in doing CPR it is possible to fracture the sternum, but it it is better the casualty is alive with a fractured sternum than dead with an un-fractured sternum.

Basil B only just got home from 12 hour shift being a paramedic in the uk enough said ok