Seeking Native English Speaking Teacher In Ubon Ratchathani Immediately

[sirchai]

Hello,

Primary school in center of Ubon is looking for a grade three, eventually grade five teacher. A degree in any field is mandatory, school will pay for visa and work permit.

Some teaching Thai kids experience is necessary, as you won't have an assistant.

Please no applicants from any Asian countries, a foreigner from a European country with excellent speaking and writing skills can also apply.

Starting salary will be 25,000 baht, all holidays paid. Please feel free to page me, people who're already in Ubon area preferred.

Please do not write posts that the salary would be too low, etc.... Thank you!

Regards,

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[lostinisaan]

Please check your inbox.

Thanks!

[Metapod]

25k? lol that sounds rough.

[sirchai]

25k? lol that sounds rough.

Have you ever thought about how much some guys in Chiang Mai are making? It's stated as starting salary, there'll be a pay raise in May. Please tell me which schools pay more than 25 in an ordinary program?

This position is ideal for those who live in Ubon area and want to get some experience. Successful candidates will have a one year contract, with all PAID HOLIDAYS.

I know some who're making 32,000 working for an agency, but they only get ten months paid. Please make your maths.

We don't have an EP programme and therefore not enough cash from good situated parents. The position is still available, somebody could start right away.

This job will be on ajarn on Wednesday, was just trying to make it less complicated. I'm wondering why nobody seems to be interested. Can't be the "low" salary alone.

25,000 baht in Ubon is around 30 something thousand in Bangkok, as cost of living in this area is much cheaper, but also less polluted. The job isn't difficult and they'll pay for visa and work permit as well.

Do agencies do that? Well, I know the answer......

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[aidenai]

Please make your maths.

I will.

[aidenai]

Please make your maths.

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[thaicbr]

25k? lol that sounds rough.

Have you ever thought about how much some guys in Chiang Mai are making? It's stated as starting salary, there'll be a pay raise in May. Please tell me which schools pay more than 25 in an ordinary program?

This position is ideal for those who live in Ubon area and want to get some experience. Successful candidates will have a one year contract, with all PAID HOLIDAYS.

I know some who're making 32,000 working for an agency, but they only get ten months paid. Please make your maths.

We don't have an EP programme and therefore not enough cash from good situated parents. The position is still available, somebody could start right away.

This job will be on ajarn on Wednesday, was just trying to make it less complicated. I'm wondering why nobody seems to be interested. Can't be the "low" salary alone.

25,000 baht in Ubon is around 30 something thousand in Bangkok, as cost of living in this area is much cheaper, but also less polluted. The job isn't difficult and they'll pay for visa and work permit as well.

Do agencies do that? Well, I know the answer......

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You keep making excuses about the salary.. Personally i do not think this board should even entertain full time jobs offering less than 30,000b. But that's me.

Things will start getting expensive there soon when the minimum salary goes nationwide in January.

Also when you place an advert it would be good to put ALL the info in the advert.

Good luck to you and the successful person.

[SlyAnimal]

I'm wondering why nobody seems to be interested. Can't be the "low" salary alone.

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I'd say that a big reason for a lack of interest, is that:

1/ Ubon is far away

2/ Salary is average/low

3/ Degree is Mandatory

4/ You advertised in November

With 3 and 4 being the main problems, since the supply of teachers (With bachelor degrees) in Thailand isn't enough. Even including people who want to teach, and who don't have degrees, there aren't enough teachers for all the schools who would like farang teachers.

And so, because you advertised late (Since Term 2 has just started), I think that most people who would have been looking for a job recently, have already started teaching. Although of course, even if you did advertise earlier, many teachers would have probably looked at 1, 2, and applied for the job, but then not have it as their first job choice, instead waiting to hear back on closer jobs with more salary.

I hope that answers your question. And yes 25k is definitely a fair salary for a non EP program school in Isaan, however remember that when you advertise a job, you're competing with the EP schools. So if an EP school can offer 30-35k, then the EP school will get to choose the best teachers, and you'll only be left with what teachers, if any, are left over (And unfortunately, there aren't enough teachers with degrees to fill all of the job vacancies). In places like Chiang Mai, Phuket or Pattaya, schools can find native speaking English teachers for 25k, or less, but that's because they have a very desirable location.

At my school, for additional funding, the director asked the student's parents to each make a donation to the school (I think it was 500 Baht for the year), which then gave them enough money to offer us a competitive salary. They also offer an English program, although I think the fees for it each term are quite low, as we're in the countryside (And we spend most of our time teaching the Thai section, not just the EP students).

I hope that this is of some use to you, and wish you the best of luck with finding a farang teacher

Edited November 5, 2012 by SlyAnimal

[sirchai]

I'm wondering why nobody seems to be interested. Can't be the "low" salary alone.

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I'd say that a big reason for a lack of interest, is that:

1/ Ubon is far away

2/ Salary is average/low

3/ Degree is Mandatory

4/ You advertised in November

With 3 and 4 being the main problems, since the supply of teachers (With bachelor degrees) in Thailand isn't enough. Even including people who want to teach, and who don't have degrees, there aren't enough teachers for all the schools who would like farang teachers.

And so, because you advertised late (Since Term 2 has just started), I think that most people who would have been looking for a job recently, have already started teaching. Although of course, even if you did advertise earlier, many teachers would have probably looked at 1, 2, and applied for the job, but then not have it as their first job choice, instead waiting to hear back on closer jobs with more salary.

I hope that answers your question. And yes 25k is definitely a fair salary for a non EP program school in Isaan, however remember that when you advertise a job, you're competing with the EP schools. So if an EP school can offer 30-35k, then the EP school will get to choose the best teachers, and you'll only be left with what teachers, if any, are left over (And unfortunately, there aren't enough teachers with degrees to fill all of the job vacancies). In places like Chiang Mai, Phuket or Pattaya, schools can find native speaking English teachers for 25k, or less, but that's because they have a very desirable location.

At my school, for additional funding, the director asked the student's parents to each make a donation to the school (I think it was 500 Baht for the year), which then gave them enough money to offer us a competitive salary. They also offer an English program, although I think the fees for it each term are quite low, as we're in the countryside (And we spend most of our time teaching the Thai section, not just the EP students).

I hope that this is of some use to you, and wish you the best of luck with finding a farang teacher

Thank you very much for your post, you're absolutely right. Honestly, I'm just working there and trying to help them to find a teacher. I can't change their mind regarding the salary. I'd be glad to make more money to support my own family......

To your points:

1/ Ubon is far away Many people settled down in lower north-east.

2/ Salary is average/low Salary might be low, but school has to pay for seven foreigners, easier to pay more money just for two.

3/ Degree is Mandatory A degree in needed to obtain a work permit.

4/ You advertised in November Guess people who have friends here and want to live in Ubon area might be interested.

It's just a job offer, not more, not less.

Cheers-

[chowny77]

Actually a degree is not completely mandatory to obtain the work permit. Most eduacation departments a so sloppy they will stamp the relevant papers so you can get the work permit. The problem is usually at the immigration offices. They are the pains in the butt that will push you back even after you have everything else from the other departments. I know, I have been there! I have a work permit for the year, I have a full contract for a year with the school and endorsed by the education department and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

[sunny and hot]

Actually a degree is not completely mandatory to obtain the work permit. Most eduacation departments a so sloppy they will stamp the relevant papers so you can get the work permit. The problem is usually at the immigration offices. They are the pains in the butt that will push you back even after you have everything else from the other departments. I know, I have been there! I have a work permit for the year, I have a full contract for a year with the school and endorsed by the education department and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Chowny77, I would like to speak to you about this as today I have been refused a 1 yeasr extension by the immigration department. I have no degree too but work in a school with a work permit. I now need a visa to stay in the country- non-b visa or do I get a non-o visa? . I am going to go to Penang Any ideas ?

Thanks

Edited November 6, 2012 by sunny and hot

[a99az]

You want the world for 25k don't you? But you could find someone who is desperate for a visa.

[thaicbr]

Actually a degree is not completely mandatory to obtain the work permit. Most eduacation departments a so sloppy they will stamp the relevant papers so you can get the work permit. The problem is usually at the immigration offices. They are the pains in the butt that will push you back even after you have everything else from the other departments. I know, I have been there! I have a work permit for the year, I have a full contract for a year with the school and endorsed by the education department and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Chowny77, I would like to speak to you about this as today I have been refused a 1 yeasr extension by the immigration department. I have no degree too but work in a school with a work permit. I now need a visa to stay in the country- non-b visa or do I get a non-o visa? . I am going to go to Penang Any ideas ?

Thanks

Were you refused because no degree or no teacher's license/waiver?

sent from my Q6

[sunny and hot]

Actually a degree is not completely mandatory to obtain the work permit. Most eduacation departments a so sloppy they will stamp the relevant papers so you can get the work permit. The problem is usually at the immigration offices. They are the pains in the butt that will push you back even after you have everything else from the other departments. I know, I have been there! I have a work permit for the year, I have a full contract for a year with the school and endorsed by the education department and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Chowny77, I would like to speak to you about this as today I have been refused a 1 yeasr extension by the immigration department. I have no degree too but work in a school with a work permit. I now need a visa to stay in the country- non-b visa or do I get a non-o visa? . I am going to go to Penang Any ideas ?

Thanks

Were you refused because no degree or no teacher's license/waiver?

sent from my Q6

no degree

[sirchai]

Actually a degree is not completely mandatory to obtain the work permit. Most eduacation departments a so sloppy they will stamp the relevant papers so you can get the work permit. The problem is usually at the immigration offices. They are the pains in the butt that will push you back even after you have everything else from the other departments. I know, I have been there! I have a work permit for the year, I have a full contract for a year with the school and endorsed by the education department and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Chowny77, I would like to speak to you about this as today I have been refused a 1 yeasr extension by the immigration department. I have no degree too but work in a school with a work permit. I now need a visa to stay in the country- non-b visa or do I get a non-o visa? . I am going to go to Penang Any ideas ?

Thanks

You can get a one year Non-O visa in Sawannakhet/Laos if you’re married to a Thai citizen. No proof of income, or appropriate cash in a Thai bank account needed.

Worked a few weeks ago for not just one friend, some TV members might know if it’s still possible.

Another possibility could be to ask your superiors if they can employ you as a “trainer”, no degree needed for that.

Job description would be trainer for speech competitions etc.......

Whatever you’ll decide, good luck from lower north-east.---

Edited November 6, 2012 by sirchai

[thaicbr]

same for teachers assistant.. don't need degree.. BUT the school should have a Thai English teacher with you.

[colinneil]

A degree is not neccesary for a work permit , please get your facts correct

[sirchai]

A degree is not neccesary for a work permit , please get your facts correct

Gotta love this one!

Our superiors want somebody with a degree, the Immigration wants to see a degree, the labor department and the TCT

I might be wrong, though----

Edited November 6, 2012 by sirchai

[aidenai]

and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months.

Do you know to what those 6 months were related to? They might be related to the expiration date of your TCT provisional teaching permit.

but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Using marriage as the reason for an extension (2.18 of Police Order 777/2551) might be a way to evade the TCT provisional teaching permit or teacher license requirements when working in basic education schools but it won't work for Labour. Also Labour requires according to the WP.1 and WP.5 documentation the TCT provisional teaching permit or teacher license. Currently, you can only get a provisional teaching permit when you hold a university degree.

http://www.immigrati...777-2551_en.pdf

http://wp.doe.go.th/...rm/form_tt1.pdf

http://wp.doe.go.th/...rm/form_tt5.pdf

http://www.ksp.or.th...Requirement.pdf

[chowny77]

Actually a degree is not completely mandatory to obtain the work permit. Most eduacation departments a so sloppy they will stamp the relevant papers so you can get the work permit. The problem is usually at the immigration offices. They are the pains in the butt that will push you back even after you have everything else from the other departments. I know, I have been there! I have a work permit for the year, I have a full contract for a year with the school and endorsed by the education department and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Chowny77, I would like to speak to you about this as today I have been refused a 1 yeasr extension by the immigration department. I have no degree too but work in a school with a work permit. I now need a visa to stay in the country- non-b visa or do I get a non-o visa? . I am going to go to Penang Any ideas ?

Thanks

Were you refused because no degree or no teacher's license/waiver?

sent from my Q6

no degree

The immigration officer said because I had not applied to try and get a degree that was the reason for not giving me a one year visa. Edited November 7, 2012 by chowny77

[chowny77]

and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months.

Do you know to what those 6 months were related to? They might be related to the expiration date of your TCT provisional teaching permit.

but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Using marriage as the reason for an extension (2.18 of Police Order 777/2551) might be a way to evade the TCT provisional teaching permit or teacher license requirements when working in basic education schools but it won't work for Labour. Also Labour requires according to the WP.1 and WP.5 documentation the TCT provisional teaching permit or teacher license. Currently, you can only get a provisional teaching permit when you hold a university degree.

http://www.immigrati...777-2551_en.pdf

http://wp.doe.go.th/...rm/form_tt1.pdf

http://wp.doe.go.th/...rm/form_tt5.pdf

http://www.ksp.or.th...Requirement.pdf

All I am able to say about this is I was given a full one year visa from my local labour office and not once did they ask to see or refered to anything about a degree. I was able to get my work permit even before I went to the immigration office. So they do not have to be done at the same time. The problem with a Non"B" visa is if your school stops your contract your visa is stopped but with the Non"O" visa they are not combined the same way. So you will not lose your visa if the school wish to stop your contract. As for the internet links they are not set in stone and are often changed and not up-dated so I would take them with a pinch of salt. The official Thai immigration website is so out of date it is a joke. They are asking for documents that are not even listed on it or documents you do not need to take anymore.

[sirchai]

and a teachers waiver..........but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months.

Do you know to what those 6 months were related to? They might be related to the expiration date of your TCT provisional teaching permit.

but it is immigration that has only given me upto 6 months. I have no degree so I know it is not completely mandatory for the school, only for immigration. If an applicant is married and on a Non "O" all they have to do is get a contract from the school plus a letter from the education department and then go to the work permit office. No need to go back again to the immigration office until you renew your marriage visa.

Using marriage as the reason for an extension (2.18 of Police Order 777/2551) might be a way to evade the TCT provisional teaching permit or teacher license requirements when working in basic education schools but it won't work for Labour. Also Labour requires according to the WP.1 and WP.5 documentation the TCT provisional teaching permit or teacher license. Currently, you can only get a provisional teaching permit when you hold a university degree.

http://www.immigrati...777-2551_en.pdf

http://wp.doe.go.th/...rm/form_tt1.pdf

http://wp.doe.go.th/...rm/form_tt5.pdf

http://www.ksp.or.th...Requirement.pdf

All I am able to say about this is I was given a full one year visa from my local labour office and not once did they ask to see or refered to anything about a degree. I was able to get my work permit even before I went to the immigration office. So they do not have to be done at the same time. The problem with a Non"B" visa is if your school stops your contract your visa is stopped but with the Non"O" visa they are not combined the same way. So you will not lose your visa if the school wish to stop your contract. As for the internet links they are not set in stone and are often changed and not up-dated so I would take them with a pinch of salt. The official Thai immigration website is so out of date it is a joke. They are asking for documents that are not even listed on it or documents you do not need to take anymore.

Amazing Thailand! You seem to be the only guy who's got his visa from a labor department.

Was it expensive?

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." ( Albert Einstein)--

Edited November 7, 2012 by sirchai

[chowny77]

I concede to Sirchai. I buggered up my wording. It was a 1 year work permit, not visa issued at the Labour office. Still I have the 1 year work permit. The visa can be done before or after the work permit is issued. All I am trying to say is if anyone who is already on a non"O" wishes to apply for the sadly paid job at your school they can and be issued a work permit. Good luck if you find anyone willing to accept 25K a month for maybe 20+ hours a week plus English camps and all the other <deleted> that is forced upon them!

[aidenai]

The problem with a Non"B" visa is if your school stops your contract your visa is stopped but with the Non"O" visa they are not combined the same way. So you will not lose your visa if the school wish to stop your contract. As for the internet links they are not set in stone and are often changed and not up-dated so I would take them with a pinch of salt. The official Thai immigration website is so out of date it is a joke. They are asking for documents that are not even listed on it or documents you do not need to take anymore.

A discussion about whether Police Order 777/2551 and 305/2251 is of no use. The rules mentioned are enforced by the Immigration Office designated to our province but probably not by your Immigration Office. The advice about the extension of stay based on marriage is old news. But please tell me, what are the rules for getting an extension of stay based on marriage by your Immigration Office. That might be news if they are not 400,000 THB in your Thai bank account or a monthly income of 40,000 THB.

It's only since 2010 that The Ministry of Labour, Department of Employment adopted the requirements set by The Teachers' Council of Thailand. You got your work permit because you did have your TCT provisional teaching permit. I'm pretty sure that you won't get a new TCT provisional teaching permit when the current one expires and therefore no work permit for you.

Nowhere in the official rules by Immigration or Labour is mentioned that holding a degree is mandatory. However, Immigration is looking at it retrospectively. Until April 2012, The Teachers' Council of Thailand issued provisional teaching permits to applicants with no degree. This means for example that holders of a provisional teaching permit but without a degree, issued on let's say 30 March 2012 are permitted to teach in basic education schools until 28 February 2014. Immigration won't let you, basically taking the TCT requirements literally. i.e. as of 1 April teachers working in basic education schools MUST hold a degree.

[sirchai]

I concede to Sirchai. I buggered up my wording. It was a 1 year work permit, not visa issued at the Labour office. Still I have the 1 year work permit. The visa can be done before or after the work permit is issued. All I am trying to say is if anyone who is already on a non"O" wishes to apply for the sadly paid job at your school they can and be issued a work permit. Good luck if you find anyone willing to accept 25K a month for maybe 20+ hours a week plus English camps and all the other <deleted> that is forced upon them!

Please don’t tell me that you’re a native English speaker. What’s your problem with our job offer?

There are some people who’d love to have a 12 month salary, free accommodation, visa and work permit, plus Thai social security.

(Not even mentioning the free lunch consisting of finest Thai cuisine on campus from Monday to Friday)

When I started 2005, I made 19,000 a month; an American friend had 15,000 baht. A Thai colleague, teaching already 10 years makes 19,000 baht right now….

With all respect, please make your own ad and complain about the bad guys who pay only a little bit money to such highly educated people like you –obviously- are.

Our new teacher could be on a Non-O, or he/she’ll apply for a Non-B in Sawannakhet.

Thank you very much for your very informative input! ---

[SlyAnimal]

Yep, sadly to get a work permit as a teacher, at a government school, you pretty much need a degree (Or equivalent, as I know there are a couple of exceptions).

Sometimes people sneak in with their work permit because they obtained a teaching licence waiver prior to the TCT making degrees mandatory (Or because the TCT didn't check their documents properly), or sometimes because the Dept of Labour didn't check whether they had a waiver or not (Dept of Labour only checks for a waiver or a teaching licence, not a degree).

What I was meaning when I said that by asking for a degree you're cutting down the number of applicants. Is that some schools hire farang teachers without degrees, and don't seem to have any problems (Perhaps they don't get additional funding from the government though? or change the job description to "Trainer" or "Teacher's Assistant" as yourself and ThaiCBR mentioned). The more applicants to choose from, the better teacher you'll be able to find for your school (Particularly as having a degree or not, has very little influence on people's teaching ability).

But please tell me, what are the rules for getting an extension of stay based on marriage by your Immigration Office. That might be news if they are not 400,000 THB in your Thai bank account or a monthly income of 40,000 THB.

Perhaps he ment a multiple entry visa, rather than a single entry with extension of stay?

Our local immigration office (Amnat Charoen), refused to extend one of my coworkers O Visa on the basis of employment last year, and told him he would have to change to a B visa instead (Apparently other immigration offices will extend it though), and his teaching salary unfortunately also fell short the 40k monthly income required. He didn't want to change to a B visa, because he preferred the certainty of marriage over the uncertainty of employment, so just stayed on a multiple entry O (no income / bank account funds required, just a couple of hours drive to Lao, instead of a couple of hours drive to Amnat Charoen, every 3 months lol).

[sirchai]

Yep, sadly to get a work permit as a teacher, at a government school, you pretty much need a degree (Or equivalent, as I know there are a couple of exceptions).

Sometimes people sneak in with their work permit because they obtained a teaching licence waiver prior to the TCT making degrees mandatory (Or because the TCT didn't check their documents properly), or sometimes because the Dept of Labour didn't check whether they had a waiver or not (Dept of Labour only checks for a waiver or a teaching licence, not a degree).

What I was meaning when I said that by asking for a degree you're cutting down the number of applicants. Is that some schools hire farang teachers without degrees, and don't seem to have any problems (Perhaps they don't get additional funding from the government though? or change the job description to "Trainer" or "Teacher's Assistant" as yourself and ThaiCBR mentioned). The more applicants to choose from, the better teacher you'll be able to find for your school (Particularly as having a degree or not, has very little influence on people's teaching ability).

But please tell me, what are the rules for getting an extension of stay based on marriage by your Immigration Office. That might be news if they are not 400,000 THB in your Thai bank account or a monthly income of 40,000 THB.

Perhaps he ment a multiple entry visa, rather than a single entry with extension of stay?

Our local immigration office (Amnat Charoen), refused to extend one of my coworkers O Visa on the basis of employment last year, and told him he would have to change to a B visa instead (Apparently other immigration offices will extend it though), and his teaching salary unfortunately also fell short the 40k monthly income required. He didn't want to change to a B visa, because he preferred the certainty of marriage over the uncertainty of employment, so just stayed on a multiple entry O (no income / bank account funds required, just a couple of hours drive to Lao, instead of a couple of hours drive to Amnat Charoen, every 3 months lol).

Indeed, a nice post…if there’s a will, there’s a bush. (Hopefully not George W….)

Honestly, a degree means not much to me. A ‘real’ one just shows that this person went through the process of a higher education.

Of course, a degree in mining is very helpful being a teacher in Swaziland.

We had a ‘real’ teacher from the UK a couple of years ago, who couldn’t do his job to teach little grade four kids in an EP. He hated this job, the kids, the country, but the kids also hated him.

( Was maybe just his always complaining Indian wife and the better looking Thai girls, who knows?)

What I’m trying to say is that a degree means nothing to me, as I know some guys, who are very good English teachers in Thailand, without a degree. Some haven’t even finished high school.

Certainly, I wouldn't mind to go to Laos every three months for several reasons. Beer’s much better and people had told me that women do have bigger….hearts.

Time for the weekend now. Cheers-

Edited November 7, 2012 by sirchai

[Scott]

Post deleted:

English is the only acceptable language, except within the Thai language forum, where of course using Thai is allowed.

[chowny77]

I concede to Sirchai. I buggered up my wording. It was a 1 year work permit, not visa issued at the Labour office. Still I have the 1 year work permit. The visa can be done before or after the work permit is issued. All I am trying to say is if anyone who is already on a non"O" wishes to apply for the sadly paid job at your school they can and be issued a work permit. Good luck if you find anyone willing to accept 25K a month for maybe 20+ hours a week plus English camps and all the other <deleted> that is forced upon them!

Please don’t tell me that you’re a native English speaker. What’s your problem with our job offer?

There are some people who’d love to have a 12 month salary, free accommodation, visa and work permit, plus Thai social security.

(Not even mentioning the free lunch consisting of finest Thai cuisine on campus from Monday to Friday)

When I started 2005, I made 19,000 a month; an American friend had 15,000 baht. A Thai colleague, teaching already 10 years makes 19,000 baht right now….

With all respect, please make your own ad and complain about the bad guys who pay only a little bit money to such highly educated people like you –obviously- are.

Our new teacher could be on a Non-O, or he/she’ll apply for a Non-B in Sawannakhet.

Thank you very much for your very informative input! ---

Actually I am a native English speaker as I am a native of England. I must admit that I have made some simple writing errors when I am writing on this forum. When I first came to Thailand to work as a native English speaker I was paid 35k a month plus housing. If people like you and your friends are accepting contract offers so low, no wonder it is because of this the bar to pay teachers have fallen. Plus if you have a degree I would love to know in what field. Does it have anything to do with teaching? If it does I clap my hands. If it is in some wishy-washy subject that would do you less favours back home then here. You can flap your lips all you want.............

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if you have a degree I would love to know in what field. Does it have anything to do with teaching? If it does I clap my hands. If it is in some wishy-washy subject that would do you less favours back home then here. You can flap your lips all you want.............

Does that matter, chowny? Fact is, you don't have a degree and are therefore not eligible for a TCT provisional teaching permit or some adopted degree requirement rules by either Immigration or Labour. Sirchai's school is offering a job and yes, 25 k is not a lot but it's still more than what you'll be earning 6 months from now.