Canadian Kills Thai Rival In Deadly Love Triangle

[technologybytes]

We probably know 20% of the story. Whatever, we don't know enough to make judgements just yet.

The dead Thai guy appears to have a shirt on, so that seems to rule out him being caught "on the job".

So far there is nothing reported that confirms what sort of relationship, if any, was going on between the Thai guy and the Girl.

In a case like this there are only victims, the Thai guy is dead, the Canadian is sure to spend a time in jail, and that's no joke. The girl will be affected by this too for sure.

To the people saying "will she lay claim to the house", don't be so stupid. Either she owns it or she does not, end of story. Remember just because he paid for it does not automatically mean he has any rights and he can't fight for his usufruct or lease rights (if he had any) from a jail cell.

This couple were together for 6 years, and she was in the house with a Thai man... so what. Don't call her a slag because you do not know the facts yet.

Even if there was something going on sexually, nobody deserves to die for that.

[Fozfromoz]

Best post of this thread in my opinion. Thanks Mel.

Somebody who says they are "glad" somebody died for having and affair? with an unmarried woman?

That is your best post of the thread ?!?

Unmarried? In law, she was his common law wife!

Get your facts straight, whilst your humping next doors bit of all you can get, whilst he's recuperating from heart surgery!

-mel.

There is no "common law" marriage in Thailand. Get your fact straights.

If you are "glad" somebody died over an unmarried woman having an affair and call that "clean living" maybe you should move, some groups in the Middle east are still recruiting ::2 cents::

According to Wikipedia, the Thai PM has a common law husband. That's close enough for me.

[Pimay1]

I feel sorry for the Canadian Guy, he lost his temper and killed this Man.

How sad !! We all lose our tempers at times, but this man went overboard, in

a rage of jealousy.....

If i was the judge, I would give him a reduced sentence and call it a crime of

passion !!!

Still deserves to be locked away for taking a life, but the circumstances need

to be put into consideration.

I hope the Canadian made out a Will, and I hope he has some other relatives,

for his assets, and I hope the Thai lady does not get anything, she does not deserve any,

after what she has done.

I think you've lost some perspective here - it is the Thai lawyer thats dead, and you feel sorry for the Canadian guy

Are we supposed to feel sorry for thai men...?

They cheer when we bite the dust....

Well in this sorry case its the Thai guy thats lost his life after apprently engaging in an affair.

My sympathies are with his friends and family. not with the alleged murderer. Best not too generalise too much about Thai men IMO.

Back where I am from I was taught that a person is responsible for their own actions and actions have consequences. Of course I'm an old fart from the old school and that is not popular in today's culture. It's always someone elses fault no mater what. Total BS. The Thai guy ultimately answered for his own actions which proves my point. I have no sypathy for this guy or the gf. It's just too bad the gf will not have to pay for her actions. But TIT.

[firestar]

According to Wikipedia, the Thai PM has a common law husband. That's close enough for me.

"Common law husband" as a figure of speech it doesn't give her any rights.

Replies were deleted because MEL1 got all flustered and wanted everybody dead but here it is :

"The principle of a common law or de facto marriage (whether it concerns a heterosexual or homosexual couple) is NOT recognized under Thai law. Marriage under the Thailand Civil and Commercial Code shall be effected only on registration being made. "

"Only registered marriages entered into the marriage register (section 1457) are recognized as legal and valid marriages in Thailand and will create the rights, duties and responsibilities of husband and wife under Thai Family Laws"

http://www.samuifors...e-thailand.html

Edited November 11, 2012 by firestar

[phuturatica]

Love fool.

[MEL1]

The guy was traveling a lot. Must be an angel if he never did what he found back in Thailand.

Are you insinuating that a man who works his backside off, travelling to places to support his business, engages in unfruitful activities with females out side of work hours?

Do you really believe ALL men are incapable of keeping it in their pants when away from their wife?

You must have some hateful memories to insinuate as such.

There are many honest, faithful and wife loving men, myself included, existing in this world.

You make me frown!

-mel.

[Fozfromoz]

According to Wikipedia, the Thai PM has a common law husband. That's close enough for me.

"Common law husband" as a figure of speech it doesn't give her any rights.

Replies were deleted because MEL1 got all flustered and wanted everybody dead but here it is :

"The principle of a common law or de facto marriage (whether it concerns a heterosexual or homosexual couple) is NOT recognized under Thai law. Marriage under the Thailand Civil and Commercial Code shall be effected only on registration being made. "

"Only registered marriages entered into the marriage register (section 1457) are recognized as legal and valid marriages in Thailand and will create the rights, duties and responsibilities of husband and wife under Thai Family Laws"

http://www.samuifors...e-thailand.html

OK. Thanks I stand corrected.

[Tanlic]

Poor sod, to be honest. It's all ok for the long lived here to say 'what a w_anker, should have known better', but he obviously didn't spend too much time here, and thought she, as an elder, was not like the youngsters.

He supplied a lovely home, worked his ass off for obviously what he thought was a faithful relationship, and decided to surprise his missus.

I'm glad he killed him, in rage. Too much of this s_hit going on for the first innocents who arrive here, and too many bitches get away with it.

He won't get a long sentence, if one at all. He'll cough up some dough and be exported, hopefully with a lesson learned FMEA plan filled, and never come back - but go to a more honest place where women are "generally" more honest than Thai women looking for a quick buck.

As for the question about having a Masters' degree - it's irrelevent. The woman in is question, her honesty; and not her qualifications.

Good luck to the man, in my opinion. Glad to see another bent lawyer go!!!!!!

-mel.

Death for cheaters. Now let's go around Pattaya and kill all the unfaithful Farangs...

You need your head checked.

Does he? If all the unfaithfull Farangs were caught in the home of some well to do Thai guy knocking off his wife what do you think their chances of survival would be?

This guy walked in on a guy who was having it off with his wife and went nuts........who wouldn't? Everyone's emotions and breaking points are different and that's why in some countries they have/had Crime of Passion

Maybe he really cared about her, maybe she meant the world to him and in one moment everything he cared about was taken away from him. Seems to me this is a classic case of COP.

Anyway most guys might go for ahappy ending or a bit of short time but they don't if they are men at all knock off another man's wife........Huge difference.

A lawyer, probably wealthy, who if he cared about her could have asked her to leave him and did the right thing....this rat was having it off with her and didn't give a hoot about him or her most likely.

You can say no one deserves to die and you are right but if you play with fire who's to blame? Yourself mate!

This guy had a good job and probably thought he had a great life and wife and I doubt if he's killed anyone before now he's dubbed up and his life is ruined because of a slag and a ratbag.

No chance he can buy himself out of this it's too high profile but I pray this guy gets the minimum sentence possible and she is left destitute.

[ricklev]

Complete defense only if he caught them in the act of coitus. Still true today in Thailand....

True but he can't use it. They weren't married.

You are right.

[MEL1]

According to Wikipedia, the Thai PM has a common law husband. That's close enough for me.

"Common law husband" as a figure of speech it doesn't give her any rights.

Replies were deleted because MEL1 got all flustered and wanted everybody dead but here it is :

"The principle of a common law or de facto marriage (whether it concerns a heterosexual or homosexual couple) is NOT recognized under Thai law. Marriage under the Thailand Civil and Commercial Code shall be effected only on registration being made. "

"Only registered marriages entered into the marriage register (section 1457) are recognized as legal and valid marriages in Thailand and will create the rights, duties and responsibilities of husband and wife under Thai Family Laws"

http://www.samuifors...e-thailand.html

Pathetic! You have no idea whether this couple had registered or not!

-mel.

The principle is the same, however.

[Pimay1]

"The girl will be affected by this too for sure".

Yes she sure will bless her little pure heart. She will loose her monthly income from the Canadian. It will probably take her another month or two to get another foreigner and lawyer sucker on the hook. Life is so tough in LOS for these ladies.

[TheWalkingMan]

Surprised the Canadian did not ice them both.

[Lukjaa]

Maybe wait until all the facts are in before passing judgment. That's why we have lawyers and judges and people are innocent until proven guilty. Even if he did do it, the fact he stabbed him 50 times might be enough for an insanity plea and he won't have to go to prison. It certainly doesn't sound premeditated but who knows.

[MEL1]

According to Wikipedia, the Thai PM has a common law husband. That's close enough for me.

"Common law husband" as a figure of speech it doesn't give her any rights.

Replies were deleted because MEL1 got all flustered and wanted everybody dead but here it is :

"The principle of a common law or de facto marriage (whether it concerns a heterosexual or homosexual couple) is NOT recognized under Thai law. Marriage under the Thailand Civil and Commercial Code shall be effected only on registration being made. "

"Only registered marriages entered into the marriage register (section 1457) are recognized as legal and valid marriages in Thailand and will create the rights, duties and responsibilities of husband and wife under Thai Family Laws"

http://www.samuifors...e-thailand.html

You are quoting past, and outside of, the basic Thai laws.

You are deleting sentences of value and are in contempt of truth.

You are manipulating your only source, being WIKI, to suit your beliefs.

What other sources have you assured, before my having to introduce them?

-mel.

[morocco]

Pimay1

"Back where I am from I was taught that a person is responsible for their own actions and actions have consequences. Of course I'm an old fart from the old school and that is not popular in today's culture. It's always someone elses fault no mater what. Total BS. The Thai guy ultimately answered for his own actions which proves my point. I have no sypathy for this guy or the gf. It's just too bad the gf will not have to pay for her actions. But TIT. "

Please explain "TIT"

Edited November 11, 2012 by morocco

[firestar]

Pathetic! You have no idea whether this couple had registered or not!

-mel.

The principle is the same, however.

oh so you changed your tactics now?

From what we know they weren't married. it is for now the most likely probability.

If you want to keep saying they were, carry on.

Edited November 11, 2012 by firestar

[bunnaag]

By Thai LAw if it was a Thai man doing this he would get off any charges because here if you find your wife in bed with another man you are ligally ok to do what you want since it your house. but since it happend to a Canadian (farang) well different story he will enjoy the Bangkok Hilton for a while and than the Canadian Embassy will take care of him to get him out quietly,

this happens all the time in phuket and pattaya the only thing we never hear about it they keep these stories usually quiet it happens many times, i seen the man next door get stabe many times by girl from bar and 2 days later she in the bar again lol all this because he was in bed with another lady and much more things i have seen after many years of beeing here you seen it all...

R.I.P Mr Lawyer

I am sure she will find in her heart to forgive hime dont forget the house is under his name so they say she know there is to much to loose and i am sure he pays for her University schooling and car or motobikes and money to family so she will forgive him for killing the lover...

cheers!

with a GOOD lawyer he will get away with 6 years.Crime of passion

[firestar]

According to Wikipedia, the Thai PM has a common law husband. That's close enough for me.

"Common law husband" as a figure of speech it doesn't give her any rights.

Replies were deleted because MEL1 got all flustered and wanted everybody dead but here it is :

"The principle of a common law or de facto marriage (whether it concerns a heterosexual or homosexual couple) is NOT recognized under Thai law. Marriage under the Thailand Civil and Commercial Code shall be effected only on registration being made. "

"Only registered marriages entered into the marriage register (section 1457) are recognized as legal and valid marriages in Thailand and will create the rights, duties and responsibilities of husband and wife under Thai Family Laws"

http://www.samuifors...e-thailand.html

You are quoting past, and outside of, the basic Thai laws.

You are deleting sentences of value and are in contempt of truth.

You are manipulating your only source, being WIKI, to suit your beliefs.

What other sources have you assured, before my having to introduce them?

-mel.

Manipulating WIKI?! None of the quotes regarding the recognition of "common law marriage" in Thailand are from wikipedia.

I also provided a link to the full article.

Sorry I didn't know you were a basket case, I wouldn't have started this discussing if I knew.

[DocN]

No matter what...some of you guys never fail to amaze me, with your hatred and bitterness and your lack of compassion.

Sometimes I really wonder, what happened to you in your life...

[BigBillsDeli]

Temporary insanity won't work cause he only killed the guy , killing both then he could plea his case TI , but leaving one alive

might hurt his chances!

[sandhurstmolonski]

Well no one shoud be killed over something like this as it is a quite common occurance in the LOS but if anyone had to get diciplined the wrong person got it. Can't blame the Thai guy in my opinion. I feel sorry for the Canadian guy that he let his emotions get the best of him but i certainly understand.

Gotta love it. "Can't blame the Thai guy" who was in another man's house bangin' the dude's girl...

You certainly CANT blame the Thai Guy , a woman is not some form of property . He was just taking what was on Offer

An horrendous outcome . You cant just Take a Life because the guy is doing what comes naturally ..

Slipping a length to a Stray . The Canadian was most certainly not of sound mind ..But he's ruined his life now ..

Committing Murder in a situation like this .... " Just a Tad of overeaction " ..Not acceptable , on any count .

[londoedan]

By Thai LAw if it was a Thai man doing this he would get off any charges because here if you find your wife in bed with another man you are ligally ok to do what you want since it your house. but since it happend to a Canadian (farang) well different story he will enjoy the Bangkok Hilton for a while and than the Canadian Embassy will take care of him to get him out quietly,

this happens all the time in phuket and pattaya the only thing we never hear about it they keep these stories usually quiet it happens many times, i seen the man next door get stabe many times by girl from bar and 2 days later she in the bar again lol all this because he was in bed with another lady and much more things i have seen after many years of beeing here you seen it all...

R.I.P Mr Lawyer

I am sure she will find in her heart to forgive hime dont forget the house is under his name so they say she know there is to much to loose and i am sure he pays for her University schooling and car or motobikes and money to family so she will forgive him for killing the lover...

cheers!

with a GOOD lawyer he will get away with 6 years.Crime of passion

Yup - I imagine you're right - though it might be be 6 loooooong years to sit in a cell and dwell on his actions.

Who was it said that the best revenge is to live well ?

[chooka]

Have a 32 yr old female nieghbour who has the thai boyfriend in his 50's and two older farangs as well who are overseas and come over a few times per year. God only know how she hasn'r been caught out by the farangs.

[firestar]

No matter what...some of you guys never fail to amaze me, with your hatred and bitterness and your lack of compassion.

Sometimes I really wonder, what happened to you in your life...

And you missed the best part... a poster was "glad" the lawyer was dead, not only because he had an affair but because he was a lawyer and the girlfriend should have been killed too, all in the name of "clean living"

Edited November 11, 2012 by firestar

[MEL1]

Pathetic! You have no idea whether this couple had registered or not!

-mel.

The principle is the same, however.

oh so you changed your tactics now?

From what we know they weren't married. it is for now the most likely probability.

If you want to keep saying they were, carry on.

I haven't changed any tactic.

It clearly states in your source that if a couple had been together for a time, presented themselves as a couple, then they are indeed, in law, considered as man and wife.

What is most likely, in your mind, and what is fact according to your source; they are two completely different things, and you manipulate them to suit your needs.

In Thai law, they were considered man and wife, and the lawyer intervened with his fallus in the moment of his desires, same as you do now.

-mel.

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Edited November 11, 2012 by metisdead

[MaxYakov]

The guy was traveling a lot. Must be an angel if he never did what he found back in Thailand.

Are you insinuating that a man who works his backside off, travelling to places to support his business, engages in unfruitful activities with females out side of work hours?

Do you really believe ALL men are incapable of keeping it in their pants when away from their wife?

You must have some hateful memories to insinuate as such.

There are many honest, faithful and wife loving men, myself included, existing in this world.

You make me frown!

-mel.

Agreed! A man who 'works his backside off, travelling [sic] to places to support his business' would never even dream of having 'unfruitful activities with females outside of work hours':

http://www.cbsnews.c...etraeus-affair/

In this sad case (link), it was probably 'inside of work hours' as well, but apparently very 'unfruitful' (or maybe not).

PS: Y'all please stop making MEL1 frown!

Edited November 11, 2012 by MaxYakov

[firestar]

I haven't changed any tactic.

It clearly states in your source that if a couple had been together for a time, presented themselves as a couple, then they are indeed, in law, considered as man and wife.

What is most likely, in your mind, and what is fact according to your source; they are two completely different things, and you manipulate them to suit your needs.

In Thai law, they were considered man and wife, and the lawyer intervened with his fallus in the moment of his desires, same as you do now.

-mel.

<<< Inflammatory comments removed!>>>

What?!?!?

It clearly says the opposite, it's written here in black and white!

http://www.samuifors...e-thailand.html

"The principle of a common law or de facto marriage (whether it concerns a heterosexual or homosexual couple) is NOT recognized under Thai law."

**insert facepalm picture here**

[tomross46]

A senseless waste of two lives.

I wonder if the girl will now try to lay claim to the house.

It is in her name. He as a Canadian can not own property.

[atyclb]

Meanwhile, Ms. Patcharaporn was studying for a master’s degree at Ramkhamhaeng University, where she became acquainted with the Thai lawyer.

Where does this leave all of those members who bang on and on about having girls with Master's degrees being so much better than those evil bar girls....?

Well my friend get ready for all kinds of verbal abouse but I certainly agree with you.

Let me say there is truth in the above, although not 100% across the board. IMO, it is society in its superficiality, image over substance (there isn't much substance), the majority consensus of condoning corruption/ cheating, education system that largely fails to train the mind how to think / analytically / critically / nor foster intellectual curiosity, passes students despite failing exams. Society either copies Soap operas or vice a versa.

With all fairness there are some great great Thai people that I am honored to call my friends.

This structure does little to foster emotional maturity nor intellectual maturity. OK, the higher educated females have more knowledge, may be more well spoken and polite, dress and carry themselves differently. There is still a fair amount of erratic, illogical behavior, selfishness, self centered mindset. Also when something stops being perceived as "fun" or trendy, or mood change they may make an about face 360 degrees. All of these things also exist in the lower level women and perhaps compounded by considerably less intellectual development.

I have experienced women with masters degrees (Thai and overseas) and even Thai medical graduates that pretend to be very nice when they need my help with something. I have perceived that when they feel the impulse, the mood, or fun they will be as nice friends, but if the mood changes, the fun feeling change, or laziness sets in, all bets are off. This is consistent with the very poor reliability and punctuality often seen in general. Again I must stress this is not everyone.

One thing that is nice about going out with an educated woman that also has financial resources is feeling as an equal and not feeling like you are there to pay the bill. Sometimes she invites you and picks up the tab, shared, or you invite her.

Thai males have told me of a very commonly known proverb regarding women. In English; If you know a woman you know nothing. If you don't know a woman, you know everything.

In the case of the alleged lawyers murder; I would say the woman is not too bright for taking her lover to the marital home. Firstly the neighbors may notice, and they love to gossip. Secondly what if the husband shows up?

If she led the lawyer to believe she is single than she is to blame. If he knew shes married and that is their marital residence he is not bright either. Its not as if there a lack of discreet motel rooms. 300 -500 baht saved on a room is not worth dying for nor even taking risk.

I am also intrigued by a 42 year old woman up with a 59 year old male. More typically such a woman would find a younger, physically fit guy.

PS; I thank God I am not here for reasons related to female companionship. Nor male companionship

Edited November 11, 2012 by atyclb

[firestar]

Do you really believe ALL men are incapable of keeping it in their pants when away from their wife?

And you believe those who don't deserve death? Like I said, there are places in the world better suited to your beliefs, you should move there.

Edited November 11, 2012 by firestar