Arkady Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 A senseless waste of two lives. I wonder if the girl will now try to lay claim to the house. I would think we should assume it has been hers since the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Sad to see someone do something so self destructive over a woman. And now she walks off with her freedom and spoils. Guy took out his rage on the wrong party, not that one should take another life in either case. Sent from my PC36100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) "For the cause of the murder, the officers assumed that it came from jealousy. When Mr. Macos saw his girlfriend with other man, he got angry and made trouble." LoL. What would the police have Mr Macos do in this situation - strip off his clothes and join in with them. Edited November 11, 2012 by Arkady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genericnic Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Whenever I see something like this, it reminds me of something I heard years ago back in law school. There was a case (People v. Skiles, 115 Ill.App. 816, 827, 450 N.E.2d 1212, 1220 (1983)), which mentioned the reported exchange "many years ago between the Chief Justice of Texas and an Illinois lawyer visiting that state. 'Why is it,' the visiting lawyer asked, 'that you routinely hang horse thieves in Texas but oftentimes let murderers go free?' 'Because,' replied the Chief Justice, 'there never was a horse that needed stealing!'" I've heard the Chief Justice's answer paraphrased to read "I've knowed lots of people needed killing but I never knowed a horse that needed stealing." I think back home, the Canadian would have a good chance to walk seeing there was no horse involved. David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genericnic Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) This must have been one special 42 year old Thai women, to ones life in the rubbish and spend the rest of your life in a Thai prison. It seems obvious this guy is/was not in sound mental state to do such a thing. Thinking about it, as unfortunate as it is, let the Thai prison system have him, and get him out of society all together. HMMM...??? To me, it seems a very natural reaction Man comes home to find wife with another man - other man is dead - perfectly legal in Texas to kill both... You may wish such a thing was legal in Texas to help justify your desire to kill over jealousy but it is not true and has not been for a long time.. @Nisa, It may not be legal to do it in Texas but but I think it would be a hard job to find a jury that would convict based on these circumstances. I practiced law in Texas for 27 years and did a fair amount of criminal trial work. Texas juries may not like people that kill other people but they seem to have a stronger aversion to women that "play around." Just that good Christian upbringing kicking it. At the least, I would be willing to bet he would get the minimum sentence allowed if he were found guilty at all. David Edited November 11, 2012 by Genericnic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have to ask why so many of you live here when you are so negative?. I moved here to be part of a family then split up, she didn't think consequences, but I'm still positive about being here. Not thinking about the future is not just a Thai thing, seen it in many countries around the world - even in European countries where the youngsters didn't bother to get educated (i.e. UK). They don't think the same as us so we judge them from our perspective, many times this 'face' works in our favour as well as I've found out in China. I have many good Thai friends but sometimes we do 'bump' into each other with our different views/attitudes so you just have to accept we think differently or live somewhere else, so many Brits would complain if Thai's tried to impose their views in the UK. I don't know what I would have done in this situation but I like to think I would have just packed her bags and escorted both of them off the premisies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 This must have been one special 42 year old Thai women, to ones life in the rubbish and spend the rest of your life in a Thai prison. It seems obvious this guy is/was not in sound mental state to do such a thing. Thinking about it, as unfortunate as it is, let the Thai prison system have him, and get him out of society all together. HMMM...??? To me, it seems a very natural reaction Man comes home to find wife with another man - other man is dead - perfectly legal in Texas to kill both... You may wish such a thing was legal in Texas to help justify your desire to kill over jealousy but it is not true and has not been for a long time.. @Nisa, It may not be legal to do it in Texas but but I think it would be a hard job to find a jury that would convict based on these circumstances. I practiced law in Texas for 27 years and did a fair amount of criminal trial work. Texas juries may not like people that kill other people but they seem to have a stronger aversion to women that "play around." Just that good Christian upbringing kicking it. At the least, I would be willing to bet he would get the minimum sentence allowed if he were found guilty at all. David Sorry meant to quote not unlike lol. I get the impression from your post that it would be Ok for the man to play around but not the woman, is that the case in texas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genericnic Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 You may wish such a thing was legal in Texas to help justify your desire to kill over jealousy but it is not true and has not been for a long time.. @Nisa, It may not be legal to do it in Texas but but I think it would be a hard job to find a jury that would convict based on these circumstances. I practiced law in Texas for 27 years and did a fair amount of criminal trial work. Texas juries may not like people that kill other people but they seem to have a stronger aversion to women that "play around." Just that good Christian upbringing kicking it. At the least, I would be willing to bet he would get the minimum sentence allowed if he were found guilty at all. David Sorry meant to quote not unlike lol. I get the impression from your post that it would be Ok for the man to play around but not the woman, is that the case in texas? I don't think Texas juries would be very happy with that either. When it comes to anything that might involve sex, the get very puritanical. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 unless this was self defence (which I doubt) - the correct thing to do would have been to put them both out on the street, at this point I'd be inclined to look into this guys background - his business interests and possible criminal activity back in Canada - something not right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheechoo Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have a feeling there is plenty more to come out of this story. no! stupid guy buys house for girl.......................yadda yadda yadda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ttelise Posted November 11, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2012 If I may suggest a practical low stress, low maintenance solution to avoid incidents like this. google image search "japan love doll" Don't even wanna know why you were Googling "Japense love doll." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheechoo Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) seriously. Does anyone think it was a triangle of love? canadian supply money, girl love thai boy! i wouldnt be surprised if girl was dubble dipping. Edited November 11, 2012 by cheechoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahaYellow Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 @ Johnnie99 Posted Today, 05:49 Oh and to those who think we 'bash' Thais ... you're either too new here, too dense or utterly thick. ********************************* One swallow does not make a summer. And for those who think so must "either" (be) "too new here, too dense or utterly thick" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Like the old Thai saying, there's no need for lawyers in Thailand because bullets are cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNret Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Meanwhile, Ms. Patcharaporn was studying for a master’s degree at Ramkhamhaeng University, where she became acquainted with the Thai lawyer. Where does this leave all of those members who bang on and on about having girls with Master's degrees being so much better than those evil bar girls....? But it's from Ramkhamhaeng, so it doesn't count :-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffdog Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) Remember, she's not your girlfriend, you're her customer. And that doesn't apply to bar girls exclusively. Edited November 11, 2012 by sniffdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) That's why I always call ahead, it's the civil thing to do, especially if I'm the guy in bed, , TIT Edited November 11, 2012 by cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jing Joe Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have a feeling there is plenty more to come out of this story. "When a moment of anger becomes a lifetime of regret" ----- "Starters" on the long list of "more to come" eh? Something to burn into the memory from when when a friend of mine choked his wife to death in a moment of jealouse rage. Tragic all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 What a tragedy,your life now turned upside down over jealousy, a fit of rage at the spur of the moment, the rest of your life in a Thai prison and for what?? A wife that was unfaithful and you killed because of that...Now she has your house ,the car and probably access to your Bank Account and the bonus of course...a new boyfriend to move in with her...C'est la vie.. as the OP states and has been restated it was his girlfriend not his wife, so how would she as his girlfriend get all his assets. Because with 42 and not married to her, he's to young for a Non Imm-Visa. So it is to expect, car (if one), house and all the things, need to be 'in some ones name', are on her name, anyway. All of this becomes part for negotiating, anyway. as less, he wanna have/'keep', as sooner he's out of jail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Oh boy. It must of been a really lousy business trip. I think he will end up getting off on temporary insanity as long as the deceased is not connected. It would have been better if the guy was naked though. I don't know the laws in Thailand about common law marriages, but in some of the United States, you can kill a guy for taking your wife... Or your horse. For knocking on your door. (Knocking on heavens door?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needforspeed Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Well no one shoud be killed over something like this as it is a quite common occurance in the LOS but if anyone had to get diciplined the wrong person got it. Can't blame the Thai guy in my opinion. I feel sorry for the Canadian guy that he let his emotions get the best of him but i certainly understand. Gotta love it. "Can't blame the Thai guy" who was in another man's house bangin' the dude's girl... I can't blame the guy either, i mean if a girl wants it the thai guy wants it why not. Who knows what the girl told the guy or what the guy had done. Its not worth killing someone over. I never heard that it was a crime to have sex with someone else his wife. Bad taste maybe but depends ont he circumstances. I some countries it is and there is something as morrals, for both his wife and the Lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmatt Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) A very good reason not to buy anything in Thailand, rent everything including the women that way if anything goes pear shaped you can just walk away from it and not lose anything. Edited November 11, 2012 by barmatt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Maybe the Canadian guy thought something was up and decided on a surprise early return. Still, no way to handle the situation by killing someone. Agreed- and he is facing life in a Thai prison. Not a happy future. Controlling one's self is not always easy, but oh the consequences (of not doing so...) But HE IS COOPERATING .... so won't he also get a very very reduced sentence and maybe just a slap on the hand like many of the other nurder cases going on ... When you admit and offer no resistance and then cooperate and admit by Thai law you get a lot of leniency ... No...?? He only need to find the archenemy of the deceased, in the lawyer business. For defending him, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have a feeling there is plenty more to come out of this story. Like what? This particular news story seems to provide even more details than one would find in the western news like where she met the lawyer. And the video on you tube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaucho Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Can't imagine how many times Farang must come back unexpectedly to find similar circumstances. Of course; most make the silly mistake of telling Miss Perfect they are on their way first. Sad for the Canadian guy who has just simply 'lost it'....and as a result loses everything. What will the slapper care? There are plenty more Farang and Thai mugs out there. very true ....u come back quietly and for sure there will be lots more probs also if u speak the lingo but dont tell them .....had a mate who whilst at sea for 3 months learnt a fair bit of filipino ...2 hrs a day =180 hrs of self tuition ..its amazing the blatant conversations both thai and filipino women have in front of their spouses /boyfriends if they think u dont understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 In the US, this could be reduced to "heat of passion" manslaughter. In Brazil, it would be legal to kill the woman. I am not certain about the man. In any event, the Canadian guy would have served everyone better if he had gone about restructuring his life, leaving her out of his financial affairs, trying to "sell" the house and liquidate to his favor, and then break the news to the woman that he is leaving. There is no point in even confronting her once you know. Best to just keep it to yourself and get out of the relationship with everything you can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) I have a feeling there is plenty more to come out of this story. Like what? This particular news story seems to provide even more details than one would find in the western news like where she met the lawyer. By the time it's finished, she will gave been having dozens if boyfriends for years, the cansdian will have become God knows what. Serial wife. beater dozens of issues that are going to spark our sympathy one way or another. Now i don't want to jump the gun here, but, frenzied knife attacks in jealousy are not that common by men. Let's wait and see if he brought the knife. I have a friend who us going through a divorce right now. His wife had taken to carrying around a carving knife. You reckon he went to the kitchen and the first thing he got was a knife and came back. She probably got or had the knife already and somehow it ended up in the mans hands. Edited November 12, 2012 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 A senseless waste of two lives. I wonder if the girl will now try to lay claim to the house. her name is almost certainly on the house chanod (title). As far as I recall from previous cases jealousy, anger or rage are completely acceptable reasons to kill someone in Thailand, at least if you are Thai, and you should as a minimum be released on bail, if not released altogether! I've heard it's legal for a Thai man to murder another man found porking his wife. Perhaps if the farang can show he was married to the woman (6 years should qualify for 'common law marriage', it would seem), he'll be let off with a wrist slap by authorities. No excuse for such a heineous act. He should have dumped the broad earlier, and let her take the house. ....and gone on to find someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takatukaland Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Meanwhile, Ms. Patcharaporn was studying for a masters degree at Ramkhamhaeng University, where she became acquainted with the Thai lawyer. Where does this leave all of those members who bang on and on about having girls with Master's degrees being so much better than those evil bar girls....? Well my friend get ready for all kinds of verbal abouse but I certainly agree with you. Ah right, so every bird with a masters degree is a slag now? Put ya head back in the sand. I've got nothing against bargirls, they serve a purpose but the words bargirl and slag are a little more closely related, considering being a complete slag is the #1 trait of their chosen profession, don't ya think? only difference is one is an educated slag the other is an uneducated slag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I wonder if the girl will now try to lay claim to the house. Surely, it must be registered in her name already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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