Canadian Kills Thai Rival In Deadly Love Triangle

[Somtumiguana]

Rest in Peace - no one deserves to go that way.

[jcw]

It's a crime scene and they've got 2 clearly non-police photographers and a videographer walking around taking pictures for the freaking newspapers. Unbelievable.

Ops normal in Thailand.

[jcw]

It's a de facto marriage if they represented themselves as married. Thai law is very protective of a husband's honour.

Minimal, if any, jail time.

Mark my words.

It is my understand "Common Law" and "de facto" marriage is not recognized under civil; or legal proceedings in Thailand.

But I tend to agree with you that the guy will see minimum jail time based on what has been reported.

Very interesting, is this even for a white guy though?

[radiochaser]

Here in the United States I worked at an office 3 1/2 drive away from my main home. I lived in an efficiency apartment when at the office.

I returned home unexpectedly one night, without calling ahead. I had one hell of a surprise. My Thai wife met me in the hallway with a loaded 12 gauge shotgun. Seems I did not hear her calling out, "Honey is that you?".

I never did find out if she was seeing anyone. I always called her before and never arrived unexpectedly after that night!

Sounds like she adapted to American culture rather well.

She had never handled a firearm before she married me and I taught her how to shoot. Even though her father was a Thai Police officer. (the only poor one that I met in Thailand by the way). She now owns 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun.

[GOLDBUGGY]

Well no one shoud be killed over something like this as it is a quite common occurance in the LOS but if anyone had to get diciplined the wrong person got it. Can't blame the Thai guy in my opinion. I feel sorry for the Canadian guy that he let his emotions get the best of him but i certainly understand.

Gotta love it. "Can't blame the Thai guy" who was in another man's house bangin' the dude's girl...

Sorry but with all the single girls here, or should I say "Available Girls", don't you see anything wrong in "Banging" some other guys wife while he is away supporting the family? Well I sure do.

What the Canadian Man did was terribly wrong. No doubt! The Thai Man did not deserve this! But what the Thai Man did was wrong to. If you question this then perhaps it is time to do a self examination on your Morals.

[moskito]

Excuse me, but where is the BLOOD???? I have been to a house where someone was stabbed to death before...and trust

me, there was blood everywhere, LAKES of blood... The human body has about 7 L average as far as I remember and with

50 stab wounds there must be something visible...btw, it was for sure not the knife they show first, otherwise he would look like

a piece of meat, sorry. Furthermore, is it normal in Thailand that the Press walk into crimescenes and touch everything, before

the police is finish there and the victim is in hospital for pathological research?

[Colabamumbai]

If he gets a long sentence most of it will be done in Canada. From a fellow Canadian.

[atyclb]

In case you live together with the Thai wife of a Thai men, the Thai men has the legal right, to ask for compensation

That law works regardless of your nationality. I sued a Thai guy who slept with my Thai ex-wife (not ex at the time). I won my case AND got my damages paid.....

Interesting story Simon. How much you talking roughly?

Wow, so the Canadian guy could recover monies spent on his woman, house, etc. ?

[Colabamumbai]

She was a law student? Was the Thai lawyer her teacher or did he lecture at the university?

[HeavyDrinker]

Here in the United States I worked at an office 3 1/2 drive away from my main home. I lived in an efficiency apartment when at the office.

I returned home unexpectedly one night, without calling ahead. I had one hell of a surprise. My Thai wife met me in the hallway with a loaded 12 gauge shotgun. Seems I did not hear her calling out, "Honey is that you?".

I never did find out if she was seeing anyone. I always called her before and never arrived unexpectedly after that night!

Sounds like she adapted to American culture rather well.

She had never handled a firearm before she married me and I taught her how to shoot. Even though her father was a Thai Police officer. (the only poor one that I met in Thailand by the way). She now owns 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun.

Well thank heavens for that....

[ALFREDO]

I never heard that it was a crime to have sex with someone else his wife. Bad taste maybe but depends ont he circumstances.

Circumstances, yes, not do it in the house of the BF of your GF or GIG, if you are the PHUANOI!

do it in your own house, or has the lawyer in his house, his own wife?

Than go in a Hotel, rent another place.

I had a similar experience, with a (regular) guy in my house in the night, with my GF and my children,

I was later sentenced for "dangerous threats" in my home country.

Sure, I was innocent, as the house was locked from inside and keys had been placed in the door locks, I was denied entry in my own house!

I banged at the double glassed sleeping room door from the garden side with a rifle until at least one of the glasses broke.

I did not go inside,as I feared the outcome, could traumatic my boys,

as my other hand gun and my Police pump Gun was with them inside the house.

[sunkist]

Temporary insanity or even better self defense...50 times is a little hard to count though.

[coma]

Seems the Canadian guy had done his homework and knew what was up. So sprang a surprise of his own and ambushed his opposite number in the bedroom.

As for those knives, they are huge. Very scarely indeed. Good to see his other half is sticking by her " man " whilst he goes through the ringer at the cop shop.

[coma]

seriously. Does anyone think it was a triangle of love? canadian supply money, girl love thai boy!

i wouldnt be surprised if girl was dubble dipping.

Unusual for any Thai guy, none the less an attorney, to be funding a 42 year old Thai woman. More typical would be the 42 y/o financing a young Thai guy, or more accurately stated, the Canadian guy financing the young Thai guy.

Have the BIB checked to see if she has taken out a life insurance policy on the deceased ?

[ManInSurat]

Firstly, my condolences to the family of the murdered Thai.

It's morally and ethically wrong to be having sex with someone else's girlfriend, but it's not illegal. No one deserves to die for those reasons and the defense of diminished responsibility due to a jealous rage should not even be allowed to be considered. It's premeditated murder from the facts.

What does give me pause for thought is if this had been a Thai man catching a farang in a compromising position with his girlfriend and committing premeditated murder would he be in custody now? That's a sad and sorry truth.

When I was a teenager I would have been murdered several times for fooling around with someone else's girl. It wasn't a nice thing to do, but I got smacked in the face for one of the 2 occasions I did something like this (It was 20 years ago!).

It was very wrong to do, but the girls were pretty and it was put on a plate for me. I deserved the smack in the mouth I got. I would not deserve to be murdered for doing that.

I'm a much more faithful person now, I might add.

Lastly ....... THIS......HAS......TO.....STOP

The man who killed him was identified as Mr. Macos Beyond, age 42, a Canadian engineer.

Stabbed the guy 50 times,.. thats an awful lot of built up rage going on there,.. almost "beyond" belief!

Stabbed 50 times? Not well engineered!!

The news breaks of a murder and the first thing people are doing is making jokes about it. I'm sorry this behaviour is just not normal. Straight away? That's your first reaction?

These 2 examples are from the first page!

Why in your right mind would you make jokes and try to make some witty wordplay when faced with this news? I don't understand at all.

There's many more similar jokes throughout the thread. I don't expect anyone to do anything about these posts as people can say what they want. I can voice my disgust though.

I have noticed a real slow down of TV traffic and people actually posting this last year, myself included and it's seeing really mind-boggling posts of people joking about the murder and death of someone that stops me from wanting to come back here too.

The constant one-upmanship and jokey attitude toward people dying, normally in horrible circumstances, makes absolutely no sense to me in any way.

It literally happens in every news topic where someone has died normally on the first page and in the first few posts. There's always some "fun" "joke" "playful" post with clever "wordplay" "sarcasm" and "razor sharp wit."

How about shut the <<Snip!>> up and keep your jokes to yourselves? Your insensitive comments and drastically misplaced humour are not wanted and are detrimental to TV and its quality as a whole.

There's a time and a place to joke and immediately (or quickly) after the murder of someone is never the right time. (I seriously can't believe I have to be saying that sentence to other humans.)

Thanks.

Edited November 12, 2012 by metisdead

[coma]

For all that are blessed with the ability to read Thai then you will no doubt find this link interesting. Scroll down past the main article to where the FB thread is and you will see posts of thoughts from a Thai's perspective of this incident. A very interesting read indeed.

http://www.dailynews.co.th/crime/165994

[ALFREDO]

Where did het get the knife from?

His own kitchen?

[ALFREDO]

Unless somehow acting in self defence ,there can be absolutely no excuse . Hope there's a swift trial , the penalty fits the crime and no monies are exchanged to pervert the course of justice !

Who makes love in my house with my GF, sleps in my bed, uses my energy-electric-aircon and water' Looks in my TV True move I pay, eats and drinks out of my refrigerator things which are paid with my money, should not be surprised about possible harsh consequences!

Make it somewhere, but in my place? No! Everything can happen!

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Edited November 13, 2012 by metisdead

[NewlyMintedThai]

Tell it to the judge.

[ALFREDO]

"Initially, the police restrained Mr. Macos and charged him in an accusation of killing another person intentionally, and then brought him to the police station to do the master plan of confessing and put him into jail."

Who writes that stuff???

Google Translate?

[ALFREDO]

The guy was traveling a lot. Must be an angel if he never did what he found back in Thailand.

Are you insinuating that a man who works his backside off, travelling to places to support his business, engages in unfruitful activities with females out side of work hours?

Do you really believe ALL men are incapable of keeping it in their pants when away from their wife?

How the rogue is, he thinks of the others!

[biplanebluey]

A senseless waste of two lives.

I wonder if the girl will now try to lay claim to the house.

Probaly wont have to claim it----will automatically be hers

[jrincon17]

I dont get this at all, guess he didnt realize he can have an 18yr old at any time ?

[Greer]

A senseless waste of two lives.

I wonder if the girl will now try to lay claim to the house.

The house would be in her name in any case, as the farang cannot own land (which means any "house" or "townhouse" as opposed to a condominium). He would have no claim whatsoever because of that, quite apart from the stated fact that they had been together for six years, as I dont think that Thai law recognises defacto relationships - unless it has changed recently, which it may have, but even then he still cant own it anyway.

Well no one shoud be killed over something like this as it is a quite common occurance in the LOS but if anyone had to get diciplined the wrong person got it. Can't blame the Thai guy in my opinion. I feel sorry for the Canadian guy that he let his emotions get the best of him but i certainly understand.

Gotta love it. "Can't blame the Thai guy" who was in another man's house bangin' the dude's girl...

Its possible that the girl had not mentioned the farang boyfriend, so he may not have known...although I guess its unlikely...but still, killing someone for such an act is not acceptable.

[DocN]

A senseless waste of two lives.

I wonder if the girl will now try to lay claim to the house.

The house would be in her name in any case, as the farang cannot own land (which means any "house" or "townhouse" as opposed to a condominium). He would have no claim whatsoever because of that, quite apart from the stated fact that they had been together for six years, as I dont think that Thai law recognises defacto relationships - unless it has changed recently, which it may have, but even then he still cant own it anyway.

Well no one shoud be killed over something like this as it is a quite common occurance in the LOS but if anyone had to get diciplined the wrong person got it. Can't blame the Thai guy in my opinion. I feel sorry for the Canadian guy that he let his emotions get the best of him but i certainly understand.

Gotta love it. "Can't blame the Thai guy" who was in another man's house bangin' the dude's girl...

Its possible that the girl had not mentioned the farang boyfriend, so he may not have known...although I guess its unlikely...but still, killing someone for such an act is not acceptable.

"Its possible that the girl had not mentioned the farang boyfriend, so he may not have known...although I guess its unlikely...but still, killing someone >snip< is not acceptable.

[Wossnext]

This must have been one special 42 year old Thai women, to ones life in the rubbish and spend the rest of your life in a Thai prison.

It seems obvious this guy is/was not in sound mental state to do such a thing. Thinking about it, as unfortunate as it is, let the Thai prison system have him, and get him out of society all together.

Yep definitely not worth throwing away your life for, however not sure about the sound mental state comment? the guy is by the sounds of it a qualified and successful engineer, so probably not unstable.........he came home to find some guy banging his missus! so he lost his nut and had a mental. Doesn't excuse murder but who knows how any of us would react in the same situation......a sad sad story for all.

[Colabamumbai]

Crime of passion, not premeditated 10 years max if that , more like 5, totally acceptable in all societies.

[coma]

Well going by the case on another thread here that an Israeli man who murdered his ex wife and is about to be released after serving only 8 years. This Canadian guy should be feeling a little bit better about his current predicament and prospects of serving a reasonabley short stint in the Big House.

[MaxYakov]

My Thai wife reckons he should have stabbed the woman to death too. Maybe that's the way most Thais would see it as well?

Maybe. She was probably halfway down the Soi while her Canadian live-in was still performing overkill on the lawyer. Could it be that she was downstairs when he arrived home and had time and opportunity to make her escape?

Edited November 13, 2012 by MaxYakov

[Nisa]

Excuse me, but where is the BLOOD???? I have been to a house where someone was stabbed to death before...and trust

me, there was blood everywhere, LAKES of blood... The human body has about 7 L average as far as I remember and with

50 stab wounds there must be something visible...btw, it was for sure not the knife they show first, otherwise he would look like

a piece of meat, sorry. Furthermore, is it normal in Thailand that the Press walk into crimescenes and touch everything, before

the police is finish there and the victim is in hospital for pathological research?

Dead people don't bleed and we don't know which stab wound may have killed him and what organ failure may have caused the death vs. the cause of death being bleeding to death. There is also plenty of blood underneath the body that is blurred and you can see the stab (not slash) wounds on the back of the shirt as well as blood on the knife on the counter.

I didn't see any reporters touching anything but actually saw police escorting photographers and not letting anyone allowed to enter the room where the body is and where investigators are still collecting evidence.

And yes, it is not uncommon in Thailand for press to be allowed to take pictures and video before the body is removed and the pictures often make the front page of the news but are usually pixelated.

Edited November 13, 2012 by Scott