webfact Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 German arrested in connection with HIV Quicktest website run by Pattaya Company PATTAYA: -- A 72 year old German was arrested by Region 2 Police on Wednesday accused of operating a website offering HIV Quicktests. The Website indicates it is run by a South Pattaya-based company called HIV Quicktest International from an address on Pattaya Second Road. Officers from the Child and Women Protection Unit conducted a raid on room number 425 on the 4th floor of the New Day Night Hotel off the South Pattaya Road on Wednesday afternoon and detained it’s occupant Mr. Horst Joseph Melchner, who is named on the website as the account holder where money to purchase the HIV testing kits should be sent to. Police also found sex enhancement medication including Viagra and Kamagra Jelly along with sex toys and pornographic pictures of what appeared to be foreign women. Mr. Melchner claimed they were intimate pictures of his wife who was based in Germany and were taken 20 years ago. Full story: http://www.pattayaon...attaya-company/ -- Pattaya One 2012-11-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I wonder who he upset ?....one suspects this is not down to the BiB's brilliant investigation skills, further why is it illegal to sell HIV tests kits, if they work one would assume they would be a good thing ? Will be intresting to see if they charge him for working without a WP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeforeTigers Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 A friend in the States hit me up with the same idea, actually. Wanted to know if those tests could be sourced in Thailand. I wonder what the charge is. One would think that information would be the entire point of writing the article. =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) These test are not Thai FDA approved. What a <SNIP!> joke. I'm sure the police hit him up on a technicality. They only want money. They don't give a $hit about anyone's safety only about getting money. Why in the WORLD would they stop this man from trying to sell products to keep people safe and informed. This is the lowest of the low. Hey Pattaya police I have money for you in my pocket Edited November 22, 2012 by metisdead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 FDA approval process would require officials touring Germany or USA or wherever those tests were manufactured for an "audit". Need to check whether those facilities match up to Thai standards. Easier if you have a local party as your agent who adds bugger all in terms of actual value to the supply chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Why in the WORLD would they stop this man from trying to sell products to keep people safe and informed. Perhaps because the tests dont work and/or are overpriced? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 FDA approval process would require officials touring Germany or USA or wherever those tests were manufactured for an "audit". Need to check whether those facilities match up to Thai standards. Easier if you have a local party as your agent who adds bugger all in terms of actual value to the supply chain. That wouldn't be a problem would it.I'm sure any cowshed matches Thai standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It is hardly a "technicality" to sell anything considered as under the Thai FDA regulations without their approval to do so, to operate a non registered business to avoid tax, and to do so without a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisainaM Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Police also found - sex enhancement medication including Viagra and Kamagra Jelly along with - sex toys and - pornographic pictures of what appeared to be foreign women. Mr. Melchner claimed they were intimate pictures of his wife who was based in Germany and were taken 20 years ago. Other medication, some available over the counter of Pharmacy’s in Thailand and - some medications which are not permitted to be sold in Thailand were also found. Mr. Melchner claims the medication found is for his own personal use. Despite this claim the investigations into the raid and subsequent seizure of items from his room are ongoing and --- he is expected to be charged with multiple offences over the next 24 hours. multiple offences, beside working without wp, having pictures of his wife, having medicine, where he have to proof the source from his doctor, having setoys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wans Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 thats a shame, these tests are very accurate and easy to do, it would be a big step forward if they were legalized but big money doesnt wont to be undercut, I dont think they are legal in the US either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 FDA approval process would require officials touring Germany or USA or wherever those tests were manufactured for an "audit". Need to check whether those facilities match up to Thai standards. Easier if you have a local party as your agent who adds bugger all in terms of actual value to the supply chain. That wouldn't be a problem would it.I'm sure any cowshed matches Thai standards. Still would need several trips to make sure those foreign cows are well milked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgis Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Thai FDA approval is easy to get, just pay the fee... But actually it's not very different in US ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Why in the WORLD would they stop this man from trying to sell products to keep people safe and informed. Perhaps because the tests dont work and/or are overpriced? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Earlier a post was removed as the post was in violation of the fair use policy, ensuing replies to that post were also removed. Other posts commenting on moderation have now been removed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopperboy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Thai FDA approval is easy to get, just pay the fee... But actually it's not very different in US ! The fee is much higher in the US - you need to offer a "revolving door" for the FDA approval people, pay lobbyists and own a senator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWPattaya Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It is hardly a "technicality" to sell anything considered as under the Thai FDA regulations without their approval to do so, to operate a non registered business to avoid tax, and to do so without a work permit. Absolutely correct. Operating a website to sell items without FDA approval, drugs that can only be sold by a pharmacist, operating a business from a hotel room means he doesn't have a registered company with a work permit, making money without paying income tax, etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn2005 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Why in the WORLD would they stop this man from trying to sell products to keep people safe and informed. Perhaps because the tests dont work and/or are overpriced? Why in the WORLD would they stop this man from trying to sell products to keep people safe and informed. Perhaps because the tests dont work and/or are overpriced? He is not likely to be qualified to sell drugs, especially illegal generic types, he must be the 'Kamagra Kraut' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyswede Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Read all about it here: http://www.hivquicktest.com/index.html NOTE: This product is sold outside Thailand I also have a bank account that money dropps in to some time , just like this guy , not a crime i ques as money doesnt come from any work done in Thailand! Edited December 5, 2012 by metisdead : Bold font removed, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 haha i like the picture in the background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Like most comments made, there is not enough information in this story, so you begin to make assumptions. Where was the editor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avidflyer Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 FYI, apparently the US FDA recently approved such a test. I don't know if you need a Rx to buy it. It is for "home" use. The cost is about $40.00, or so. I read about it maybe 2 weeks ago. I don't remember about the validity time window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 He is not likely to be qualified to sell drugs, especially illegal generic types, he must be the 'Kamagra Kraut' Give me a break! -Kamagra-, -Zeagra-, Penagra- and other stuff of -Sildenafil- = Viagras "active substance" are produced from big Indian Pharma companies and is sold, since many years in Thailands Pharmacies under the table and openly on the roads. Must ask the guys on Sukhumvit in Bangkok who sell that stuff on the pedestrian walkway, if they are, "qualified" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Like most comments made, there is not enough information in this story, so you begin to make assumptions. Where was the editor? Editor... .....What do you think this rag is ?.....The Times of London ?....for the most part they have trouble stringing together a coherant sentence in English and you want an editor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Read all about it here: http://www.hivquicktest.com/index.html NOTE: This product is sold outside Thailand I also have a bank account that money dropps in to some time , just like this guy , not a crime i ques as money doesnt come from any work done in Thailand! You do know the definition of work in Thailand has nothing do with money or where is comes from...so in fact it could be crime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prvtdetdave Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Despite the fact we may think these quick tests are a good thing, You have a suspect here who is presumed to be violating Thai Law. In the course of thier search (The Police) they found other items which maybe illegal in the LOS. I can't feel empathy for him. IMO " Just another slug". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyswede Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 You do know the definition of work in Thailand has nothing do with money or where is comes from...so in fact it could be crime... It seams like it´s up to the police officer at that particular time what is and what is not a crime , it´s abit like lottery really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFY Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Despite the fact we may think these quick tests are a good thing, You have a suspect here who is presumed to be violating Thai Law. In the course of thier search (The Police) they found other items which maybe illegal in the LOS. I can't feel empathy for him. IMO " Just another slug". *YAWN* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 No where enough info in this 'news' story to pass an informed opinion. BUT if sold outside Thailand WTH ? Like I said there is a lot of relevant info left out , must be a Pattaya Paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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