Yingluck Fears Violence At Protest; Police Claim Plot To Kidnap Prime Minister

[AleG]

"Being a democracy is not only about exercising one's freedom. The rule of law must also be observed and obeyed. In exercising one's rights and freedoms, one must not impinge on the rights and freedoms of others," she said.

And then she followed by asking all the Red Shirt leaders in her party to resign, right? No?

Hypocritical ****.

[Halion]

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. This is yet another example of this Governments core capability, bullshit, they are legendary at taking a sows ear and turning it into a silk purse and vice versa. They are an utter disgrace.

This will go on as long as the Shinwatra clan is allowed any form of power base. They are proffesional cowards and a blight on this country.

[bendejo]

At one point when the reds were occupying the Democracy Monument area they marched to Victory Monument. They passed through the neighborhood I was staying in, seemed like a pretty happy bunch, no doubt thinking about the money they were making. Had to make my way through the crowd to get to the food I stall where I have lunch. Near the stalls off to one side was the only policeman I saw that day, sitting reading a newspaper and never picked up his head.

I agree with what was said above, kidnapping the PM would not change/prove a thing. The only person who, if either was done to them, would make a difference to the country is not in Thailand at present.

[lizardtongue]

Sounds to me that her tight little ass is pouting ............here we go again what a circus!

[webfact]

Government forces nervously await 'D-Day'

By Digital Media

BANGKOK, Nov 23 – Thailand's police and military have intensified order-keeping measures including enforcing the Internal Security Act (ISA) in Bangkok following intelligence reports that the anti-government political rally at the Royal Plaza tomorrow will possibly escalate and continue for several days, according to government officials.

Army commander Prayuth Chan-ocha said about 150 soldiers will support the police peace-keeping mission while National Police chief Adul Saengsingkaew said the government decided to implement the ISA after reports that the demonstrators may seal off government buildings and the rally may drag on.

Gen Prayuth said after a meeting at the Internal Security Operations Command that the situation may worsen and the army agreed to assign 150 military personnel to support the police.

The ISOC meeting agreed to set up Law and Order Administrative Centre, under the leadership of Pol Gen Adul, after receiving reports that the rally may turn violent. The centre consists of civilians, police, military and political appointees.

Gen Adul said special emergency centres wil be set up in three Bangkok vicinities, but that police will be the key agency keeping order during the rally which may take a few days.

Pol Maj Gen Piya Uthayo, national police spokesman, said the national police chief will today explain every step of the ISA enforcement including protection for the homes of prominent figures.

Pol Lt Gen Nares Nuntachote, First Police Region Commander, dispatched 12 companies, of police, 1,860 officers, to back up the police force in Bangkok. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-11-23

[Mitker]

According to the supposed contract on TS head, he's worth 10,000 USD. That doesn't even pay for a city car nowadays.

What would be the sister tag price? I mean, seriously?

Thailand, the Hub of Imaginary Plots

.. but that makes for funny reading!

[Mitker]

Police

"Volunteers"

Red shirt mob

now Soldiers

What's next?

Diving instructors?, Masseuses?, air hostesses?

[PhilipCook]

This is a time for a little less comedy(inaction) and a little more work( durable roads, rail, transit systems)

[hellodolly]

"...while the police chief expressed fears the protesters may try to kidnap the prime minister."

Well now, that's a convenient rumor/tactic. Reds are getting mighty scared about tomorrow. Heaven forbid democracy and free speech is allowed to exist under their regime.

Are you scared or is that a rumour. Heaven help fools who think Democracy will arrive with the Yellow Shirts

So you are saying there is no democracy here?

[h90]

"Why would anyone ever think, that kidnapping PM-Yingluck would derail the government, in any way ?"

Ever heard about Patty Hearst ?

"gained notoriety in 1974 when, following her kidnapping by the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA), she ultimately joined her captors in furthering their cause."

http://en.wikipedia....Patricia_Hearst

But that would involve brain-washing here....Very unlikely that this is possible....

[EarthAlien]

""Being a democracy is not only about exercising one's freedom. The rule of law must also be observed and obeyed. In exercising one's rights and freedoms, one must not impinge on the rights and freedoms of others," she said."

Shame that attitude didn't prevail when her red shirt supporters held BKK to ransom and invoked a state of emergency during the April/May 2010 rally riot which culminated in massive loss of lives, injuries, businesses destroyed and the city burnt!

[Jawnie]

"...while the police chief expressed fears the protesters may try to kidnap the prime minister."

Well now, that's a convenient rumor/tactic. Reds are getting mighty scared about tomorrow. Heaven forbid democracy and free speech is allowed to exist under their regime.

Are you scared or is that a rumour. Heaven help fools who think Democracy will arrive with the Yellow Shirts

So you are saying there is no democracy here?

There is democracy here, but you just can't talk about certain things, write about certain things, show certain things on tv, or ask certain questions, or expect any politician to listen to the people or act in any lawful or accountable fashion...all for fear of going to jail for a long time. Other than that, everything is peachy.

[Pimay1]

Why would anyone ever think, that kidnapping PM-Yingluck would derail the government, in any way ?

It might reduce sales of expensive consumer-goods, and reduce her availability for photo-opportunities, but since she clearly has little-or-no say in policy, the government gravy-train would still roll along as normal.

Of course there might be those amongst her Cabinet (don't mention a DPM with the initial 'C' !), who might welcome the 'need', to have to take over power for themselves, but that's a different threat from the claim of an attempt to kidnap her.

Is Obama still in APAC? Maybe it is an agreed kidnapping after all the come on looks she gave him while he was here?

[Ron19]

I have never read so much crap in a thread as I am reading in this one with the posts by members with a one eyed view of the present situation.

[TackyToo]

"There is evidence that violence may be used.”

These words don’t go well together! They already made Herod (70 BC) do some weird things…

[CantSpell]

Thailand.... Hub of plots..

[RisqEM]

"Being a democracy is not only about exercising one's freedom. The rule of law must also be observed and obeyed. In exercising one's rights and freedoms, one must not impinge on the rights and freedoms of others," she said.

Yingluck, maybe you and your whole family should listen to what your speech writers have you say!!! Also, I wonder just what is all this evidence........

Seems like a scare tactic to divert attention from the 70 billion baht loan they're trying to secure to keep the rice pledging scheme going......

[Nickymaster]

"Being a democracy is not only about exercising one's freedom. The rule of law must also be observed and obeyed. In exercising one's rights and freedoms, one must not impinge on the rights and freedoms of others," she said.

Really? What a pity you weren't the PM in 2010.

Does burning down the city fall under "impinge the rights and freedoms of others"?

Edited November 23, 2012 by Nickymaster

[webfact]

PM says ISA enforcement aimed to provide safety for public

By Digital Media

BANGKOK, Nov 23 -- Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Thursday explained that her government's decision to enforce the Internal Security Act (ISA) is aimed to ensure safety for the public during tomorrow's mass rally by Pitak Siam group.

Ms Yingluck, in a a televised address by TV Pool, said her Cabinet resolved to impose the ISA after intelligence reports indicated that the Pitak Siam rally is targeting the toppling of the democratically elected government in violation of the constitution.

She said public gatherings and protests are provided for and protected by the Constitution. But such public gatherings must be peaceful, without the use of weapons, and within the boundaries of the law.

If a large number of people is mobilised by incitement, led by those who seek to overthrow the elected government and democratic rule -- which is against the Constitution -- and there is evidence that violence may be used to achieve those ends, then it is a case of national security.

It is the government's duty to preserve law and order, protect the lives and property of everyone -- including those who are protesting and those who are not involved, the prime minister said in a recorded speech.

She said that the ISA would be enforced in three districts -- Phra Nakorn, Pom Prap Sattru Phai, and Dusit -- and involves setting up a "Law and Order Administrative Centre" under the command of the national police chief Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew. The ISA took effect yesterday, November 22 and will be in effect through next Friday, November 30.

The measures are meant to pre-empt and prevent any situations in a timely and effective manner, she said, adding that the measures will be discontinued as soon as the situation improves. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2012-11-23

[Buchholz]

Well unless she is going to be front and centre at the protest surrounded with 50,000 policeman, how is the ISA going to help one jot. As the sister of a billionaire she would have been a potential kidnap target.

She's a billionairess in her own right. Same as her nephew and nieces.

That alone could mark her as a potential kidnap target.

Same as just being an ex-PM could mark anyone else to be a potential assassination target.

What's lacking in both of these specific instances of the Shinawatras is that pesky thing called proof.

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Edited November 23, 2012 by Buchholz

[Nickymaster]

Well unless she is going to be front and centre at the protest surrounded with 50,000 policeman, how is the ISA going to help one jot. As the sister of a billionaire she would have been a potential kidnap target.

She's a billionairess in her own right. Same as her nephew and nieces.

That alone could mark her as a potential kidnap target.

Same as just being an ex-PM could mark anyone else to be a potential assassination target.

What's lacking in both of these specific instances of the Shinawatras is that pesky thing called proof.

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"What's lacking in both of these specific instances of the Shinawatras is that pesky thing called proof."

Proof is something you don't need to provide in Thailand if you have a good story.

Edited November 23, 2012 by Nickymaster

[Skywalker69]

Its OK for the reds to loot and burn and riot and threaten. But not ok for anyone else. Off course, the whole purpose of the Red/government stance on this is to be able to blame the 'protest' movement for the mayhem that the reds will inevitably cause amongst the ranks of the protesters thus allowing the Government to give itself even more repressive powers. We're on our way!.

As you know others, you know you´r self.

[Thai at Heart]

Well unless she is going to be front and centre at the protest surrounded with 50,000 policeman, how is the ISA going to help one jot. As the sister of a billionaire she would have been a potential kidnap target.

She's a billionairess in her own right. Same as her nephew and nieces.

That alone could mark her as a potential kidnap target.

Same as just being an ex-PM could mark anyone else to be a potential assassination target.

What's lacking in both of these specific instances of the Shinawatras is that pesky thing called proof.

.

Well exactly. So if someone makes a threat against say the head of CP they call an ISA.

Imagine if they enacted an emergency decree every time obama had a threat? All heads of govt, are constantly under threat of some sort, so invoking the ISA partly because of this is a load of tosh.

That's why they are meant to have security. Thailand is virtually at war in the south if the country anyway, so, she is under constant threat. Beyond that, she's probably under constant threat from a few bigwigs who wouldn't lose a moments sleep if she disappeared.

[Buchholz]

Government forces nervously await 'D-Day'

With numbers like

80,000 Police / 23,000 Police Volunteers / 200,000 Red Shirts

being put forth, they are getting ever closer to Normandy's figures.

.

[Buchholz]

Police

"Volunteers"

Red shirt mob

now Soldiers

What's next?

Diving instructors?, Masseuses?, air hostesses?

Historically speaking, the answer might be taxi drivers, as well as recruitment of additional garbage collectors, homeless people, and the mentally ill who aren't already included in the Red Shirt tally.

[h90]

Government forces nervously await 'D-Day'

With numbers like

80,000 Police / 23,000 Police Volunteers / 200,000 Red Shirts

being put forth, they are getting ever closer to Normandy's figures.

.

But the red shirts belong to the Ostfront and not the west.

[h90]

Police

"Volunteers"

Red shirt mob

now Soldiers

What's next?

Diving instructors?, Masseuses?, air hostesses?

Historically speaking, the answer might be taxi drivers, as well as recruitment of additional garbage collectors, homeless people, and the mentally ill who aren't already included in the Red Shirt tally.

http://www.thaivisa....ost__p__5431554

you forgot drug addicted.....

[MikeOboe57]

Government forces nervously await 'D-Day'

With numbers like

80,000 Police / 23,000 Police Volunteers / 200,000 Red Shirts

being put forth, they are getting ever closer to Normandy's figures.

.

Of course they're nervous - the same feeling a bank robber has when he sees a police car parking in front of his house.

[jbrain]

Who in their right mind would want to kidnap a useless person ?

[webfact]

PM working as usual at Govt House, not attending Senate debate in Parliament; Authorities advise avoiding 5 roads near Govt House, Parliament /MCOT