Perhaps defeated PM Abhisit's comments are motivated because he fears the exp<b></b>ression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation. As someone that never won a mandate at the polls, but was instead repudiated, I can understand his sensitiivity. It must be difficult now that his fraudulent military service record was exposed.

It is obvious to any non-gullible person that Abhisit is being targeted precisely because he doubts the spin put on the constitution amendment process by a bunch of liars. How many times have they said that the process is not for Thaksin's benefit while having previously said they would do anything to get him an amnesty.

His 'fraudulent' military service was 'exposed' by a kangaroo court (of the military) - not in a proper court of law. It's so easy to see (if you use your faculties) that a witch-hunt is in progress.

Was it a military court or a Defense Ministry committee?

You are quite correct - it was a Defence Ministry committee. I stand corrected except that it still was a kangaroo court.

Edited December 25, 201213 yr by khunken

Christ, Abhisit only has to fart now to end up on another charge.

Goes to show the desperation of the PT and how low they and there supporters can go.

Perhaps defeated PM Abhisit's comments are motivated because he fears the expression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation. As someone that never won a mandate at the polls, but was instead repudiated, I can understand his sensitiivity. It must be difficult now that his fraudulent military service record was exposed.

You claim

"he fears the expression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation"

In other words you are saying that the nation does not want an honest government. That they want to white wash Thaksin of all his crimes. That they do not want an education system that works. That they want inflation.

Please remember that when you say they want to white wash Thaksin the PT got less than half the votes and if the yellow shirts had voted their percentage would have been even lower. And of the ones that did vote PT not all of them wanted Thaksin they thought they were going to get Yingluck. Another PT Fable.

Perhaps you are right they want to continue going into debt and spiraling into economic oblivion. The nations around them are not going to just stay the same they will be working to bring a better economy to there country.

Edited December 25, 201213 yr by hellodolly

It is all getting rather silly.

That happened a long time ago.

Perhaps defeated PM Abhisit's comments are motivated because he fears the expression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation. As someone that never won a mandate at the polls, but was instead repudiated, I can understand his sensitiivity. It must be difficult now that his fraudulent military service record was exposed.

It is obvious to any non-gullible person that Abhisit is being targeted precisely because he doubts the spin put on the constitution amendment process by a bunch of liars. How many times have they said that the process is not for Thaksin's benefit while having previously said they would do anything to get him an amnesty.

His 'fraudulent' military service was 'exposed' by a kangaroo court (of the military) - not in a proper court of law. It's so easy to see (if you use your faculties) that a witch-hunt is in progress.

Was it a military court or a Defense Ministry committee?

You are quite correct - it was a Defence Ministry committee. I stand corrected except that it still was a kangaroo court.

I disagree, it was a committee, not a court. Mind you, we haven't seen any details of the committee's findings except that the MoD endorsed findings by ordering k. Abhisit to be stripped of his rank. All in good spirit, open and transparantly and the like. Only details and justification missing, but who needs that anyway.

Do these redshirt sheeple ever stop bleeting?

Activist Ruangkrai Leekitwattana . What the hell is an activist? There is no more explanation of this man (or woman?) than to mention that he is an activist? What does an activist do, except for making daft headlines?

In the case of k.Jatuporn who also claimed this occupation, it is someone who manages to accumulate a serious amount of assets while passing misinformation to those uneducated and ignorant enough to listen to his propaganda. The source of his wealth is believed to be some overseas billionaire.

In the case of former senator and activist Ruangkrai there also has been doubts over his accrued wealth. mind you, the NACC has been informed on June, 2012, so a formal answer might still be forthcoming.

""Graft whistle blower Ruangkrai Leekitwattana appears unusually rich, having amassed Bt34 million in three years, Democrat MP Sathit Pitutecha said on Wednesday.""

http://www.asiaone.c...705-357280.html

K. Ruangkrai has been fairly busy indeed, mostly filing cases asking or requesting to investigate. To list just the first few I came across (first page of yahoo search results only)

2006-11-09 Ruangkrai Leekitwattana, an adviser to the attorney-general, questioned the department's decision to tax the siblings, saying the department might be trying to save its own skin.

http://www.asiamedia...?parentid=57357

2010-01-26 The senator asked the commission to check whether Mr Kasit had violated sections 268 and 266 (1) which forbid MPs, senators, the prime minister and ministers from intervening or interfering in the operations of state agencies for personal or partisan gain.

http://militaryasia....r-conflict.html

2010-09-16 Senator Ruangkrai Leekitwattana filed freeloading charges with the National Counter-Corruption Commission against Mr Banharn, Mr Prasopsuk and several other prominent politicians who had enrolled without fee at the Capital Market Academy for an orientation course.

http://archive.voice...ANSFACETHEMUSIC

2012-04-22 Activist Ruangkrai Leekitwattana has petitioned the Office of the Ombudsman to investigate and determine if Democrat Nutt Bantadtan violated the ethical code for MPs by using his phone to view a picture of a naked woman during a House session.

http://www.reuters.c...E8FN0SK20120423

2012-06-06 Former senator Ruangkrai Leekitwattana yesterday petitioned the Constitution Court seeking dissolution of the Democrat Party and a political ban on its executives for allegedly gaining power to govern unconstitutionally.

http://&lt;URL Automatically Removed&gt;/...issolution.html

2012-07-14 The court yesterday also rejected petitions filed separately by yellow-shirt leader Chamlong Srimuang and former senator Ruangkrai Leekitwattana against all the parliamentarians involved in the deliberation on constitutional amendment.

http://www.asiaone.c...714-359112.html

2012-11-29 Meanwhile, the Election Commission decided to set up a panel to look into a complaint filed by former senator Ruangkrai Leekitwattana alleging that Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva was effectively disqualified as an MP after Defence Minister Sukampol Suwannathat retroactively dismissed him as a military reservist for committing a serious disciplinary offence.

http://www.asianewsn...?id=39540&sec=1

>In some respects, the PTP should let Abhisit go-ahead and politically hang himself. The more he opposes an effort to restore Democratic practices following a coup, by decrying efforts to reform the coup constitution, the more he becomes tightly linked to that coup. He has so much political baggage already, this will simply add weight.

>I marvel at the Democrats complaining about Jatuporn's bail situation, when only several days ago there was a headline indicating PAD Leaders failed to show up at a court hearing for their Airport caper. For some people, there is no shame.

I thought the OP was full of ranting and politically motivated nonsense, then I read your reply……

I disagree, it was a committee, not a court. Mind you, we haven't seen any details of the committee's findings except that the MoD endorsed findings by ordering k. Abhisit to be stripped of his rank. All in good spirit, open and transparantly and the like. Only details and justification missing, but who needs that anyway.

Meanwhile wasn't this subject about "Complaint over Abhisit's remarks about referendum".

Don't bother coming up with your usual "holier than thou" line from now on rubl.

If Abhisit continues to break the Election Law by urging people to boycott the Referendum Vote what does he expect. Wriggling out of and denying the meaning of what he posted on his Facebook Page (of all places) is no defence. It is against the law to interfere with the laws concerning the referendum. The military Junta imposed quite severe penalties on their restrictions on the last constitutional referendum vote ( though to be fair having Martial Law declared in a third of the country helped get their preferred verdict through.)

>In some respects, the PTP should let Abhisit go-ahead and politically hang himself. The more he opposes an effort to restore Democratic practices following a coup, by decrying efforts to reform the coup constitution, the more he becomes tightly linked to that coup. He has so much political baggage already, this will simply add weight.

>I marvel at the Democrats complaining about Jatuporn's bail situation, when only several days ago there was a headline indicating PAD Leaders failed to show up at a court hearing for their Airport caper. For some people, there is no shame.

I thought the OP was full of ranting and politically motivated nonsense, then I read your reply……

I take it you thought that the "OP was full of ranting and politically motivated nonsense" because it's different to how you see things. Would you like to share with us exactly what made you think that or was it just general posturing like quite a few posts on this forum?

Perhaps defeated PM Abhisit's comments are motivated because he fears the expression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation. As someone that never won a mandate at the polls, but was instead repudiated, I can understand his sensitiivity. It must be difficult now that his fraudulent military service record was exposed.

You claim

"he fears the expression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation"

In other words you are saying that the nation does not want an honest government. That they want to white wash Thaksin of all his crimes. That they do not want an education system that works. That they want inflation.

Please remember that when you say they want to white wash Thaksin the PT got less than half the votes and if the yellow shirts had voted their percentage would have been even lower. And of the ones that did vote PT not all of them wanted Thaksin they thought they were going to get Yingluck. Another PT Fable.

Perhaps you are right they want to continue going into debt and spiraling into economic oblivion. The nations around them are not going to just stay the same they will be working to bring a better economy to there country.

Your post i nonsensical because of the following;

- Under the Abhisit administration there were multiple corruption scandals. Do you want to go through the long sordid list? To date, the Yingluck administration has been spared the frequency and severity of the scandals that characterized the Abhisit administration.

- I have not made any claims about whitewashing.

- PM Yingluck has experienced a growth in the popularity of her government and her mandate to govern is stronger now than when she was first elected and Abhisit defeated. Only Yingluck received a mandate at the polls. Abhisit did not.

- The Thai economy is stronger today than it was under the Abhisit administration. Look at all of the economic indicators.

- The fact remains that Abhisit's military service record was forged. There was no kangaroo court. Abhisit says it was an error of unknown origin. This is the typical excuse offered by people that are finally caught in a deceitful act. If Abhisit had known the document was in error why did he not ever make the effort to correct it? Why did he take a commission which was not deserved?

Abhisit s finished. He's been exposed as a political opportunist and now all he can do is flail about in his political death throes. If he had job skills, perhaps he could go and find a job in the private sector. However, as someone with no work experience in the private sector, politics is all he can do.

Perhaps defeated PM Abhisit's comments are motivated because he fears the expression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation. As someone that never won a mandate at the polls, but was instead repudiated, I can understand his sensitiivity. It must be difficult now that his fraudulent military service record was exposed.

You claim

"he fears the expression of the democratic desires of the Thai nation"

In other words you are saying that the nation does not want an honest government. That they want to white wash Thaksin of all his crimes. That they do not want an education system that works. That they want inflation.

Please remember that when you say they want to white wash Thaksin the PT got less than half the votes and if the yellow shirts had voted their percentage would have been even lower. And of the ones that did vote PT not all of them wanted Thaksin they thought they were going to get Yingluck. Another PT Fable.

Perhaps you are right they want to continue going into debt and spiraling into economic oblivion. The nations around them are not going to just stay the same they will be working to bring a better economy to there country.

Your post i nonsensical because of the following;

- Under the Abhisit administration there were multiple corruption scandals. Do you want to go through the long sordid list? To date, the Yingluck administration has been spared the frequency and severity of the scandals that characterized the Abhisit administration.

- I have not made any claims about whitewashing.

- PM Yingluck has experienced a growth in the popularity of her government and her mandate to govern is stronger now than when she was first elected and Abhisit defeated. Only Yingluck received a mandate at the polls. Abhisit did not.

- The Thai economy is stronger today than it was under the Abhisit administration. Look at all of the economic indicators.

- The fact remains that Abhisit's military service record was forged. There was no kangaroo court. Abhisit says it was an error of unknown origin. This is the typical excuse offered by people that are finally caught in a deceitful act. If Abhisit had known the document was in error why did he not ever make the effort to correct it? Why did he take a commission which was not deserved?

Abhisit s finished. He's been exposed as a political opportunist and now all he can do is flail about in his political death throes. If he had job skills, perhaps he could go and find a job in the private sector. However, as someone with no work experience in the private sector, politics is all he can do.

Abhisit says it was 'an error of unknown origin'.

Reminds me of Thaksin's endless 'honest mistakes'.

I disagree, it was a committee, not a court. Mind you, we haven't seen any details of the committee's findings except that the MoD endorsed findings by ordering k. Abhisit to be stripped of his rank. All in good spirit, open and transparantly and the like. Only details and justification missing, but who needs that anyway.

Meanwhile wasn't this subject about "Complaint over Abhisit's remarks about referendum".

Don't bother coming up with your usual "holier than thou" line from now on rubl.

If Abhisit continues to break the Election Law by urging people to boycott the Referendum Vote what does he expect. Wriggling out of and denying the meaning of what he posted on his Facebook Page (of all places) is no defence. It is against the law to interfere with the laws concerning the referendum. The military Junta imposed quite severe penalties on their restrictions on the last constitutional referendum vote ( though to be fair having Martial Law declared in a third of the country helped get their preferred verdict through.)

As I understand it, the law regarding a referendum is not the same as for an election, and that is why there is some doubt that there would be the required half the eligible votes cast. Which would make your post seem rather foolish. I could be wrong - can you substantiate your claims?

Christ, Abhisit only has to fart now to end up on another charge.

that just might be the one which sticks