Buchholz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) YOU claimed that the Thai Boss of Nestlé Thailand and Thaksin "are partners in an offshore services businessis". Than you claim it's "trivial matters" when it's confirmed there is NO Thai Boss within Nestlé Thailand and now you're backing-off saying "All I'm telling you is what i heard" Prayudh Mahagitsiri, No 16 on Forbes 40th Richest in Thailand. Biggest source of wealth is stake in Quality Coffee, JV with Nestle.(http://www.forbes.co...tsiri_R4MT.html) I have no knowledge of any interest in offshore gas service businesses but it might be interesting to note the following from the Nation, April 4th, 2007 (I think the dates on the website are wrong but I can't remember from so long ago. I think it should be 2001) - "The Constitution Court earlier found Thai Rak Thai Deputy Leader Prayudh Mahagitsiri guilty of false asset declaration. He was banned for five years from the day he resigned as senator."(http://nationmultime...cs_30031061.php). This was the very same day that former Prime Minister Thaksin was found not guilty by the same court. I also don't know the terms of the Nestle JV but my understanding is that Mr. Prayudh's company has the concession for importing Nestle coffee and probably other Nestle products into Thailand. So there seems to be a "Thai Nestle Boss" and there is a link between Mr. Prayudh and Mr. Taksin. I don't think you can continue to attack the poster on these grounds. Perhaps on other aspects of the rumour, but not these particular details. Additionally, in regards to former Thai Rak Thai Party Deputy Leader Prayudh and former Thai Rak Thai Party Leader Thaksin... August 7, 2006 A group of university lecturers, students, activists and businessmen yesterday formed a new alliance to level "social sanctions" on the Thai Rak Thai Party in a bid to oust the Thaksin regime. The alliance promptly announced its first mission: to send letters to companies that fund Thai Rak Thai - including Charoen Pokphand, Nestle and Grammy - to stop providing financial support to the party. Among the businessmen they will contact are Dhanin Chearavanont, chairman and CEO of CP Group, Prayudh Mahagitsiri, board chairman of Nestle Group, and Paiboon Damrongchaitham, chairman of GMM Grammy Plc. http://www.nationmul...cs_30010520.php and another of the billionaire's other business, which he still maintains... October 15, 2004 It's said that every government needs the support of influential businessmen. Among the businessmen supporting this government is Prayudh Mahagitsiri, the Chairman of Thainox Stainless Co Ltd, the country's sole stainless steel producer. Prayudh is one of Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's golfing mates. http://www.highbeam....-100787063.html He's flush with cash also after selling off 1,400,000,000.00 Baht worth of shares in his other business, Golden Land Property Development last year. . Edited January 14, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) But I wouldn't call that a Thai Nestle Boss. I'd call the Thaksin buddy and fellow billionaire the former Thai Nestle Boss Prayudh Mahagitsiri, board chairman of Nestle Group Edited January 14, 2013 by Buchholz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 This is the real reason why the Thais are disputing the border at the temple. Well why dress it up in semantics about some scrub land. It's sometimes suggested that the border dispute is linked to the OCA, but I've never understood the linkage.Can anybody explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tep Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A thoughtful analysis from 2010 of the Thai Cambodia OCA and the potential for the resolution of issues http://www.clc-asia.com/the-struggle-between-thailand-and-cambodia-over-oil-and-gas-resources/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A thoughtful analysis from 2010 of the Thai Cambodia OCA and the potential for the resolution of issues http://www.clc-asia....-gas-resources/ Agreeably, a thoughtful and quite reasonable summation of the topic. Thanks for posting. Couldn't help but notice their first point in how to move forward mirrored mine posted earlier. What will ultimately bring both sides back to the table (again)? 1) A change of philosophy to marine border demarcation A Thai navy expert familiar with the issue of the maritime border also suggested a ‘good starting point’ for resolution is for Cambodia to accept the lack of legal basis for the demarcation line which Cambodia has drawn through Kut Island (a Thai resort island ceded by Cambodia’s former colonial master, France in 1904 ). From the Thai perspective, Cambodia may have to draw another line by using the median line principal, to delimit the territorial sea and continental shelf between the two countries. It'll be interesting to see how things progress. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaamNaam Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A thoughtful analysis from 2010 of the Thai Cambodia OCA and the potential for the resolution of issues http://www.clc-asia....-gas-resources/ Agreeably, a thoughtful and quite reasonable summation of the topic. Thanks for posting. Couldn't help but notice their first point in how to move forward mirrored mine posted earlier. What will ultimately bring both sides back to the table (again)? 1) A change of philosophy to marine border demarcation A Thai navy expert familiar with the issue of the maritime border also suggested a ‘good starting point’ for resolution is for Cambodia to accept the lack of legal basis for the demarcation line which Cambodia has drawn through Kut Island (a Thai resort island ceded by Cambodia’s former colonial master, France in 1904 ). From the Thai perspective, Cambodia may have to draw another line by using the median line principal, to delimit the territorial sea and continental shelf between the two countries. It'll be interesting to see how things progress. . It all makes perfect sense, pounds, shillings and pence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A thoughtful analysis from 2010 of the Thai Cambodia OCA and the potential for the resolution of issues http://www.clc-asia....-gas-resources/ Agreeably, a thoughtful and quite reasonable summation of the topic. Thanks for posting. Couldn't help but notice their first point in how to move forward mirrored mine posted earlier. What will ultimately bring both sides back to the table (again)? 1) A change of philosophy to marine border demarcation A Thai navy expert familiar with the issue of the maritime border also suggested a ‘good starting point’ for resolution is for Cambodia to accept the lack of legal basis for the demarcation line which Cambodia has drawn through Kut Island (a Thai resort island ceded by Cambodia’s former colonial master, France in 1904 ). From the Thai perspective, Cambodia may have to draw another line by using the median line principal, to delimit the territorial sea and continental shelf between the two countries. It'll be interesting to see how things progress. . It all makes perfect sense, pounds, shillings and pence. I'll Roger that. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) I've done my work: http://www.thaivisa....50#entry6016949 Time for a with some tasty tough bamboo leaves Edited January 14, 2013 by LaoPo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaamNaam Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've done my work: http://www.thaivisa....50#entry6016949 Time for a with some tasty tough bamboo leaves And you enjoy that cup too. The reason i know this info is that he and his "nestle"buddy bought into the company i have worked for since 1998. Was interesting watching your rants though. The devil is in the details. They matter not. Fact is this is the main reason (if not the only one) that the Viharn temple dispute is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've done my work: http://www.thaivisa....50#entry6016949 Time for a with some tasty tough bamboo leaves And you enjoy that cup too. The reason i know this info is that he and his "nestle"buddy bought into the company i have worked for since 1998. Was interesting watching your rants though. The devil is in the details. They matter not. Fact is this is the main reason (if not the only one) that the Viharn temple dispute is going on. I didn't rant; just asked questions which you NEVER answered. Next time YOU deliver the details. You didn't deliver any; just rumours. You're too lazy to check Mr Google yourself. At least Buchholz did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaamNaam Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've done my work: http://www.thaivisa....50#entry6016949 Time for a with some tasty tough bamboo leaves And you enjoy that cup too. The reason i know this info is that he and his "nestle"buddy bought into the company i have worked for since 1998. Was interesting watching your rants though. The devil is in the details. They matter not. Fact is this is the main reason (if not the only one) that the Viharn temple dispute is going on. I didn't rant; just asked questions which you NEVER answered. Next time YOU deliver the details. You didn't deliver any; just rumours. You're too lazy to check Mr Google yourself. At least Buchholz did... Not rumours at all. I don't just google everything. lol, too funny you are. You seem interested in the details why didn't you google them. Just passed on what i heard, no more, no less. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've done my work: http://www.thaivisa....50#entry6016949 Time for a with some tasty tough bamboo leaves And you enjoy that cup too. The reason i know this info is that he and his "nestle"buddy bought into the company i have worked for since 1998. Was interesting watching your rants though. The devil is in the details. They matter not. Fact is this is the main reason (if not the only one) that the Viharn temple dispute is going on. I didn't rant; just asked questions which you NEVER answered. Next time YOU deliver the details. You didn't deliver any; just rumours. You're too lazy to check Mr Google yourself. At least Buchholz did... Not rumours at all. I don't just google everything. lol, too funny you are. You seem interested in the details why didn't you google them. Just passed on what i heard, no more, no less. Have a nice day. Er your contradicting yourself....not rumours at all, you just passed along what you heard..... just because I heard a rumour from someone else that the moon is made of cheese doesnt make it true... The one minor problem in your rumours around our man in dubai and his cunning plan with his friend the Nestle billionaire...., If the sister of brother number 1 manages to get into some deal over the disputed terrority, while she is in office and brother #1 benefits from this..I can hear the cries of conflict of interest now from the Democratic party, one assumes a censure, and if sucessful, any agreements will be with drawn, back to square 1... or at the very least the company brother number 1 has his fingers in will not be allowed to bid on any work by the operator who eventually develops any leases there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Whether it's development of his Cambodian Koh Kong's casinos or expanding his Cambodia Shinawatra (Camshin) company's telecom arm, MFone, Thaksin's business dealings with his eternal friend Hun Sen's country are already long and extensive. Little reason to doubt he wouldn't infiltrate the Cambodian gas and oil markets, as well. Particularly with a close friend and fellow Thai billionaire Prayudh. It'd be surprising with his inside connections and finances if he didn't get involved. . Edited January 14, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) If the sister of brother number 1 manages to get into some deal over the disputed territory, while she is in office and brother #1 benefits from this..I can hear the cries of conflict of interest now from the Democratic party, one assumes a censure, and if successful, any agreements will be with drawn, back to square 1... or at the very least the company brother number 1 has his fingers in will not be allowed to bid on any work by the operator who eventually develops any leases there... Can be overcome by their previous experiences with Ample Rich and the Shin sale..... Layer the dealings real deep and heavy with intermediaries and proxies other than just stupidly using his own children as before. . Edited January 14, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Whether it's development of his Cambodian Koh Kong's casinos or expanding his Cambodia Shinawatra (Camshin) company's telecom arm, MFone, Thaksin's business dealings with his eternal friend Hun Sen's country are already long and extensive. Little reason to doubt he wouldn't infiltrate the Cambodian gas and oil markets, as well. Particularly with a close friend and fellow Thai billionaire Prayudh. It'd be surprising with his inside connections and finances if he didn't get involved. . What is it that you don't like about astute Thai business people ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Whether it's development of his Cambodian Koh Kong's casinos or expanding his Cambodia Shinawatra (Camshin) company's telecom arm, MFone, Thaksin's business dealings with his eternal friend Hun Sen's country are already long and extensive. Little reason to doubt he wouldn't infiltrate the Cambodian gas and oil markets, as well. Particularly with a close friend and fellow Thai billionaire Prayudh. It'd be surprising with his inside connections and finances if he didn't get involved. . What is it that you don't like about astute Thai business people ??? What is it that you can't discuss the topic instead of forum members ??? . Edited January 14, 2013 by Buchholz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaamNaam Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Whether it's development of his Cambodian Koh Kong's casinos or expanding his Cambodia Shinawatra (Camshin) company's telecom arm, MFone, Thaksin's business dealings with his eternal friend Hun Sen's country are already long and extensive. Little reason to doubt he wouldn't infiltrate the Cambodian gas and oil markets, as well. Particularly with a close friend and fellow Thai billionaire Prayudh. It'd be surprising with his inside connections and finances if he didn't get involved. . What is it that you don't like about astute Thai business people ??? What is that you can't discuss the topic instead of forum members ??? . Both LaoPao and Soutspeel have done the same with me on this thread. Playing personal tit for tat and missing the entire point of the thread. Taksin and his buddy have bought into the biz, period. I'm outta here, getting a bit boring now. I guess they are just argumentitive people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Both LaoPao and Soutspeel have done the same with me on this thread. Playing personal tit for tat and missing the entire point of the thread. Taksin and his buddy have bought into the biz, period. I'm outta here, getting a bit boring now. I guess they are just argumentitive people. Aaahhh poor boy; I'm so sorry to have hurt you Post # 6 you confirmed that it was Hun Sen and Thaksin to have made the deal (if they did.....did they?) "yes they have. the deal was done many moons ago" But later it was suddenly the Thai Nestle Boss.... Post # 11 "Taksin and his buddy the Nestle boss are partners in it. Big fat contract worth billions of USD" Billions in USD huh? Any confirmation of that? Post # 33 "Err, no. he and his buddy (The Thai Nestle boss) are partners in an offshore services business that will (has) win the contract for that area" Post # 35: (soutpeel): which offshore services business would that be ? I am not at liberty to say. It is sub sea construction and top side hook ups based. (which company name is open source on the internet.... ) After all this it's "trivial" to you. Right EDIT: Damname...please try to write the names of your fellow debaters correctly, OK? It's NOT ".... LaoPao and Soutspeel" but LaoPo and Soutpeel, and, if it's difficult for you, just copy-and-paste, very easy, OK? Oh sorry: it's Naamdaan...sorry, DaamNaam finally correct! Edited January 14, 2013 by LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Whether it's development of his Cambodian Koh Kong's casinos or expanding his Cambodia Shinawatra (Camshin) company's telecom arm, MFone, Thaksin's business dealings with his eternal friend Hun Sen's country are already long and extensive. Little reason to doubt he wouldn't infiltrate the Cambodian gas and oil markets, as well. Particularly with a close friend and fellow Thai billionaire Prayudh. It'd be surprising with his inside connections and finances if he didn't get involved. . What is it that you don't like about astute Thai business people ??? What is it that you can't discuss the topic instead of forum members ??? . Maybe it's because other members, including yourself, drag Thai Billionaires into the topic discussion which weren't mentioned in the OP's article in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) web error Edited January 14, 2013 by LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Whether it's development of his Cambodian Koh Kong's casinos or expanding his Cambodia Shinawatra (Camshin) company's telecom arm, MFone, Thaksin's business dealings with his eternal friend Hun Sen's country are already long and extensive. Little reason to doubt he wouldn't infiltrate the Cambodian gas and oil markets, as well. Particularly with a close friend and fellow Thai billionaire Prayudh. It'd be surprising with his inside connections and finances if he didn't get involved. . What is it that you don't like about astute Thai business people ??? What is it that you can't discuss the topic instead of forum members ??? Maybe it's because other members, including yourself, drag Thai Billionaires into the topic discussion which weren't mentioned in the OP's article in the first place? response to troll post self-deleted Edited January 15, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 There are some on here, of a distinctly red persuasion, that should be asking the question "Why is nobody from the PTP government disputing the ridiculous Cambodian claims in the GoT?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 There are some on here, of a distinctly red persuasion, that should be asking the question "Why is nobody from the PTP government disputing the ridiculous Cambodian claims in the GoT?" Blame the french...they drew the lines I believe... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotbeve Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 There are some on here, of a distinctly red persuasion, that should be asking the question "Why is nobody from the PTP government disputing the ridiculous Cambodian claims in the GoT?" Moruya, I mentioned it in an earlier, rather simple post. And not only the PTP party, any party is (was/and will be) reluctant at this juncture.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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