pxlgirl Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 All Thais I've talked to so far are much more surprised to hear that I'm not a Christian, than by the fact that I'm an atheist. I was wondering where that comes from. Did some white christian folks try to invade Thailand and force it down their throats? I've seen some Philippino kids running around in BKK and trying to sell their little books and drag others to their "meetings". I sort of feel sorry for those kids being forced to do that, but that's a different can of worms. Yet on the other hand, all farungs I met so far were christians, so another assumption might be the fact that the majority or farungs are christians, which would explain why Thais would think that way? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krisb Posted January 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2013 I was thinking how come so many falang seem to think most Thais are buddhist? BTW, did you know most buddhists are aethiests? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yermanee Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 To answer both the OP and KrisB, probably because most of them are. Yermanee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Newman Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I find the same thing, which annoys the hell out of me. I just tell Thais I go to the Church of Nana, they nod and say ok as if they know what that is !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 It's because most people in the world finds westerners complete lack of spirituality disturbing. Like we are living shallow lives, which we are in most cases. So what kind of atheist are you? The informed kind who understands what science can and can't explain or the one who sees atheism as an excuse for moral relativism/nihilism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I was thinking how come so many falang seem to think most Thais are buddhist? BTW, did you know most buddhists are aethiests? What about Karma??? I dont believe any Atheist would believe in Karma... But I was under the impression that Karma was a pretty standard belief for Buddhists??? It's because most people in the world finds westerners complete lack of spirituality disturbing. Like we are living shallow lives, which we are in most cases. So what kind of atheist are you? The informed kind who understands what science can and can't explain or the one who sees atheism as an excuse for moral relativism/nihilism? I think I am in the first... Although, I do not believe life has any real point or meaning.... I do not believe thats a bad thing though - It just furthers my belief that life is what WE make it and we are in control over how happy we are and how much 'meaning' our lives have. Edited January 26, 2013 by Jigger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I think I am in the first... Although, I do not believe life has any real point or meaning.... I do not believe thats a bad thing though - It just furthers my belief that life is what WE make it and we are in control over how happy we are and how much 'meaning' our lives have. It does require a lot more thought as to how once's behaviour affects others. It seems to me that many atheists are in reality just hedonists who dislike the stigma of that label. Of course, a doubting Thomas kind of atheist could call himself an agnostic atheist. A hedonist may just call him/herself a nihilist instead, since that's what most atheists really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I'm one of the few real Buddhists in Thailand ........ of any race. I don't know any Thai Buddhists .... do they even exist? Edited January 26, 2013 by TommoPhysicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Karma comes from Hinduism, but like many aspects of Hinduism, it's kind of an "add-on" for Buddhists along with statues of Vishnu, animistic spirit-houses and many other "peripherals" which really historically had nothing to do with Buddhism, some of which Buddha himself would have shunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I'm one of the few real Buddhists in Thailand ........ of any race. I don't know any Thai Buddhists .... do they even exist? I thought there were several Buddhist directions, Thailand belonging to the 'middle road' faction? Also, I think it's very easy to see the Buddhist influence on just about every part of Thai culture and society, although Buddha himself likely wouldn't have liked being deified and used as a spirit to pray to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Karma comes from Hinduism, but like many aspects of Hinduism, it's kind of an "add-on" for Buddhists along with statues of Vishnu, animistic spirit-houses and many other "peripherals" which really historically had nothing to do with Buddhism, some of which Buddha himself would have shunned. Hmm.. I always though Karma was in opposition to the Hindu caste system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2013 It's because most people in the world finds westerners complete lack of spirituality disturbing. Like we are living shallow lives, which we are in most cases. So what kind of atheist are you? The informed kind who understands what science can and can't explain or the one who sees atheism as an excuse for moral relativism/nihilism? So you have encountered spiritualism in thai buddhism? My impression is that thai buddhism is only about money. As a matter of fact, i consider the absence of spiritualism in thailand to be my biggest disappointment here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 It's because most people in the world finds westerners complete lack of spirituality disturbing. Like we are living shallow lives, which we are in most cases. So what kind of atheist are you? The informed kind who understands what science can and can't explain or the one who sees atheism as an excuse for moral relativism/nihilism? So you have encountered spiritualism in thai buddhism? My impression is that thai buddhism is only about money. As a matter of fact, i consider the absence of spiritualism in thailand to be my biggest disappointment here. Well, I mostly regret the lack of intellectualism here and probably also spiritualism, but I can't help but feel that Thais in generally have a better connection to life, family and death than westerners. Maybe it's more of a confucianistic influence though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I find when I tell Thais I ain't Christian they seem to get uncomfortable and probably think I'm Muslim. I really don't care but I also don't like to be assumed to be Christian based on skin color and nationality. However, in the larger scheme of things, Thais assuming I don't like spicy food based again on skin color is practically a much bigger and frequent minor annoyance. Let's face it, this isn't the world center of intellectual thought. It's so much easier if everyone fits into convenient little predictable boxes based on superficial appearance, knows their place, and is happy about it. Edited January 26, 2013 by Jingthing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I'm one of the few real Buddhists in Thailand ........ of any race. I don't know any Thai Buddhists .... do they even exist? I thought there were several Buddhist directions, Thailand belonging to the 'middle road' faction? Also, I think it's very easy to see the Buddhist influence on just about every part of Thai culture and society, although Buddha himself likely wouldn't have liked being deified and used as a spirit to pray to. The buddhist influence on just about every part of thai culture? Sure. With some exeptions, such as: Blatant materialism. Killing and eating animals. Face. Corruption. Respect based on power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) There are about 1,000 Thai Christians spread among 4-5 churches in our mid-sized Isaan city. Virtually every Buddhist Thai I meet is either shocked at that number or simply doesn't believe it. "If you're Thai, you're Buddhist," is the prevailing stereotype in Thailand. "Farangs" are stereotyped just as well. Edited January 26, 2013 by Fookhaht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Back to the original question... why do thais assume that farangs are christians? Perhaps the thai educational system is not quite 21th centurish? My wife was very surprised to hear that back home at school i learned about other religions then christianity. She still does not believe that atheist humanism is a subject at belgian schools! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 7 years here and I've never once been asked about my religion or had it referred to. Is it mainly bargirls and the like asking about it? Over a game of connect 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 All farangs speak farangese and are Christian. I thought everybody knew that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) 7 years here and I've never once been asked about my religion or had it referred to. Is it mainly bargirls and the like asking about it? Over a game of connect 4? bargirls asking questions about religion? what is your point? and do explain the 'connect 4' part of your post? Edited January 26, 2013 by nidieunimaitre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) All farangs speak farangese and are Christian. I thought everybody knew that? In Pattaya the Thais now are telling me that the farangs all speak Russian and live on pelmeni and red soup. Now I'm confused! Edited January 26, 2013 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 7 years here and I've never once been asked about my religion or had it referred to. Is it mainly bargirls and the like asking about it? Over a game of connect 4? bargirls asking questions about religion? what is your point? and do explain the 'connect 4' part of your post? You sound demanding. Christian per chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 All farangs speak farangese and are Christian. I thought everybody knew that? In Pattaya the Thais now are telling me that the farangs all speak Russian and live on pelmeni and red soup. Now I'm confused! so your other tread was about not getting a pelmeni in your red soup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) You sound demanding. Christian per chance? Reading the reply, I instantly thought American.... Same Same But Different... Edited January 26, 2013 by Jigger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 7 years here and I've never once been asked about my religion or had it referred to. Is it mainly bargirls and the like asking about it? Over a game of connect 4? bargirls asking questions about religion? what is your point? and do explain the 'connect 4' part of your post? You sound demanding. Christian per chance? I have many vices, but being a christian is not one of them. Now i demand an explanation on the "demanding" part of your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 'connect 4' ?? anyone can enlighten me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Perhaps the thai educational system is not quite 21th centurish? 21st century.......they're still struggling with the 20th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Could be because a large number of foreigners wear crosses, many as a piece of jewelery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maprao Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 'connect 4' ?? anyone can enlighten me ? Chill out Connect 4 is a popular bar game played by BGs expertly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nidieunimaitre Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 'connect 4' ?? anyone can enlighten me ? Chill out Connect 4 is a popular bar game played by BGs expertly Ah I see. BGs play Connect 4, same same my wife plays TV remote? During the same fysical activities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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