Dozens Killed, Over 1,000 Injured In Egypt Protests - Un

[News_Editor]

Dozens killed, over 1,000 injured in Egypt protests - UN < br />

2013-01-31 11:45:49 GMT+7 (ICT)

NEW YORK (BNO NEWS) -- Dozens of deaths have been reported after five days of protests in Egypt, the United Nations (UN) said on Tuesday as it called on all parties to engage dialogue and stop the use of force.

As the Government of Egypt declared a state of emergency on Sunday, media reports indicate that dozens of people have been killed and more than 1,000 injured after protests against President Mohammed Morsi turned violent.

The demonstrations coincided with the second anniversary of the Egyptian revolution, when mass protests toppled then President Hosni Mubarak and led to a transition period in the country, which was part of a larger group of movements in the region known as the Arab Spring.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said Egypt remained "extremely fragile and unstable," underlining the necessity of increasing nationwide participation and ownership of the constitutional, institutional, economic and legal reforms.

"Each missed opportunity to reach national consensus, and each example of excessive use of force by security forces, is aggravating an already frighteningly tense and volatile situation," said Pillay.

In addition, Pillay called on the Government “to urgently rethink its responses to the unrest which have ranged from excessive use of force on the one hand, to complete failure to protect people, especially women, on the other.â€

The Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) said in a news release it had received reports of some 25 female demonstrators who have been sexually assaulted in Tahrir Square in downtown Cairo over the past few days, in some cases with extraordinary violence.

Pillay deplored that authorities have failed to prevent sexual attacks or to bring more than a single prosecution against the hundreds of men involved in such attacks, which have occurred with apparent impunity in a public square.

Besides the state of emergency, Morsi also issued a curfew in the Ismailia, Suez and Port Said districts for 30 days. He also called for dialogue, although Pillay said he must "listen to the demonstrators' demands, tackle grassroots problems, address key issues raised by the opposition with regard to the recently adopted Constitution, and to take immediate measures to solve the numerous serious problems currently affecting the judicial system."

Pillay noted that involving all stakeholders in reviewing current draft legislation on demonstrations, associations, and access to public information would be an important first step towards a sustainable democracy.

-- © BNO News All rights reserved 2013-01-31

[Publicus]

21-Year-Old American Killed During Violent Clashes In Egypt

Marines Put On Alert To Move Into Egypt Amid Violent Protests

Gen. Amin Ezz al Din, the head of security in Alexandria, said the man, whom he identified as 21 years old, was killed about 3:30 p.m. as he was filming clashes “with a small camera.” Din said the victim was swept up in a fight and was stabbed in the chest “with some sort of machete.”

Protesters dragged his body to an ambulance where paramedics declared him dead, Din said. A Health Ministry official also confirmed an American death but provided no details.

Due to further anti-government demonstrations planned for this weekend, roughly 200 combat-capable U.S. Marines in southern Europe have been put on an alert status should they need to protect the U.S. Embassy or American citizens in Egypt.

The Marines were told to be ready to deploy within an hour, and would be flown in via MV-22 Osprey, the Marine Corps’ rapid deployment aircraft.

A state department spokesman said the move is precautionary, and that the U.S. fully expects the Egyptian security forces to be able to protect the American diplomatic facilities.The State Department confirmed the death to CNN in addition to approving voluntary departure of staff and families at the U.S. Embassy.

The move comes less than a year after a diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya was attacked by Islamic extremists who killed four Americans, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/marines-prepared-to-move-into-egypt-2013-6#ixzz2XgvhzvM1

Edited June 30, 2013 by Publicus

[Sunderland]

Very possible Egpyt is headed for civil war which will have larger ramifications on the whole Middle East/Arab region.

[F430murci]

Very possible Egpyt is headed for civil war which will have larger ramifications on the whole Middle East/Arab region.

Yep, stuff like this is very bad news. That whole region is destabilizing.

[Steely Dan]

When Obama spoke in Cairo back in 2009 he insisted on the Muslim Brotherhood being allowed to attend. Then Mubarak was thrown under a bus and the rest is history. One would hope that the events in Egypt since Morsi was appointed would cause the U.S to reconsider it's support for said Muslim Brotherhood, but the portents are not good, just as with Libya and Syria the U.S appears to be facilitating groups that hate it. The response to the army ultimatum to intervene should have been to keep out, not to try and prop up a failed regime for reasons that appear both muddled and dubious at best.

http://www.debka.com/article/23088/In-direct-confrontation-Morsi-refuses-to-quit-says-army-must-withdraw-ultimatum

[Mosha]

Morsi removed from power. US orders non essential embassy staff out. Rest of the world should take note.

[David48]

Got it running here down in the Pub Forum @ a-military-coup-in-all-but-name

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[metisdead]

Got it running here down in the Pub Forum @ a-military-coup-in-all-but-name

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That is now closed, you can post what you posted there here.

[snarky66]

The current US leader confuses "tweeting out" with leadership.

He shows none, he is absent.

Why are US diplomats at this late hour being told to leave?

From one horrible Sec State to the next. To ignore a problem is not the same as dealing with it.

[Publicus]

The US cannot support a coup so one consequence is that US financial aid will be suspended, at least until new elections are held. The Egyptian economy is a basket case as it is so it will only get worse.

At least the military installed as interim president Adly Mansour, chief justice of the Constitutional Court and the favorite of the ordinary Tamarod protest movement of the middle class masses. Mansour's popularity will enable the US to become more involved on the side of the Egyptian middle class.

However, Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri's brother, Mohamed al-Zawahiri, has vowed to bring a new terrorism to Egypt. Up to 300 Muslim Brotherehood leaders are being rounded up but the Brotherhood will probably turn out en masse to cause chaos that will lead to violence. The army is going to have to start shooting them in the streets.

One could foresee this when the original Arab Spring mass protests began and resulted in Mubarek being tossed out. The Brotherhood was highly organized while the middle class protesters went home, resulting in the Brotherhood winning the elections. The US didn't have much choice except to support "democracy" as it was in Egypt at the time.

The army will have to do something to limit the Brotherhood's participation in the new election, or have reason to believe enough of the middle class will turn out this time to overcome the Brotherhood's vote. The perfect outcome is the Brotherhood being in the new government but as the minority opposition, which is a challenge to engineer.

The alternative is a campaign of terrorist violence by the Salafist radicals, al Qaeda and other extreme Muslim groups, which may occur anyway now that the Brotherhood has been tossed out of government.

Washington is quietly in favor of the army while publically supporting the middle class Tamarod movement, and opposes radical Muslim violence, all of which position Washington well at this point and going forward. Turkey needs to put its weight behind the Tamarod middle class movement too.

Edited July 4, 2013 by Publicus

[snarky66]

No it really is a coup. Morsi is gone & he isn't coming back. Good riddance to a bunch of bloodthirsty terrorists.

I am so proud of the Egyptian military for deposing these guys.

Too bad the obama regime had no clue this was coming. They have the NSA busy doing other stuff.

[geriatrickid]

The USA has been wise to stay out of this event and to maintain its position that there must be a respect for the democratic process.

To those that criticize the US delay in shutting down embassy operations, there was a slow evacuation over the past 2 weeks, and visitors were cautioned. Other countries have followed the same process. The US embassy had to remain open as long as possible so as to provide assistance to US nationals.

If anyone thinks there wasn't a withdrawal of personnel before the public announcements, they are mistaken. This is something that is hushed up for both diplomatic and security reasons. The UK closed its embassy to the public on July 1, Canada closed to the public on July 2, the US embassy closed to the public on July 3. Australia's embassy is still open. Key allies work together in these circumstances and some embassies are used as fall back positions and to provide support to ensure an orderly transition. US and UK military assets are stationed in close proximity to allow for a quick intervention if additional evacuation assistance is required.

[geriatrickid]

No it really is a coup. Morsi is gone & he isn't coming back. Good riddance to a bunch of bloodthirsty terrorists.

I am so proud of the Egyptian military for deposing these guys.

Too bad the obama regime had no clue this was coming. They have the NSA busy doing other stuff.

The situation in Egypt was one of the scenarios anticipated. No one is surprised. However, what did you expect the USA to do? Did you expect intervention? The USA and other western governments were wise to stay out of this internal matter. the muslim brotherhood is already blaming the USA and Israel for the removal of Morsi.

The fact remains that Morsi was democratically elected. His position had to be respect by foreign governments. The President of Turkey has faced some riots and protests too. Should the EU intervene? What about in Brazil where mobs went wild protesting the elected government? Should South American countries intervene? How about when the Greeks were having far worse protests? Should Turkey have invaded to restore order?

[kennedy]

The US cannot support a coup so one consequence is that US financial aid will be suspended, at least until new elections are held. The Egyptian economy is a basket case as it is so it will only get worse.

At least the military installed as interim president Adly Mansour, chief justice of the Constitutional Court and the favorite of the ordinary Tamarod protest movement of the middle class masses. Mansour's popularity will enable the US to become more involved on the side of the Egyptian middle class.

However, Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri's brother, Mohamed al-Zawahiri, has vowed to bring a new terrorism to Egypt. Up to 300 Muslim Brotherehood leaders are being rounded up but the Brotherhood will probably turn out en masse to cause chaos that will lead to violence. The army is going to have to start shooting them in the streets.

One could foresee this when the original Arab Spring mass protests began and resulted in Mubarek being tossed out. The Brotherhood was highly organized while the middle class protesters went home, resulting in the Brotherhood winning the elections. The US didn't have much choice except to support "democracy" as it was in Egypt at the time.

The army will have to do something to limit the Brotherhood's participation in the new election, or have reason to believe enough of the middle class will turn out this time to overcome the Brotherhood's vote. The perfect outcome is the Brotherhood being in the new government but as the minority opposition, which is a challenge to engineer.

The alternative is a campaign of terrorist violence by the Salafist radicals, al Qaeda and other extreme Muslim groups, which may occur anyway now that the Brotherhood has been tossed out of government.

Washington is quietly in favor of the army while publically supporting the middle class Tamarod movement, and opposes radical Muslim violence, all of which position Washington well at this point and going forward. Turkey needs to put its weight behind the Tamarod middle class movement too.

The USA has been wise to stay out of this event and to maintain its position that there must be a respect for the democratic process.

To those that criticize the US delay in shutting down embassy operations, there was a slow evacuation over the past 2 weeks, and visitors were cautioned. Other countries have followed the same process. The US embassy had to remain open as long as possible so as to provide assistance to US nationals.

If anyone thinks there wasn't a withdrawal of personnel before the public announcements, they are mistaken. This is something that is hushed up for both diplomatic and security reasons. The UK closed its embassy to the public on July 1, Canada closed to the public on July 2, the US embassy closed to the public on July 3. Australia's embassy is still open. Key allies work together in these circumstances and some embassies are used as fall back positions and to provide support to ensure an orderly transition. US and UK military assets are stationed in close proximity to allow for a quick intervention if additional evacuation assistance is required.

My brother in law is there now. He has been a Egyptian Navy consultant for 18yrs. ****Inflammatory baiting comments removed****

Edited July 4, 2013 by metisdead
Edited to remove inflammatory comments.

[kennedy]

The US cannot support a coup so one consequence is that US financial aid will be suspended, at least until new elections are held. The Egyptian economy is a basket case as it is so it will only get worse.

At least the military installed as interim president Adly Mansour, chief justice of the Constitutional Court and the favorite of the ordinary Tamarod protest movement of the middle class masses. Mansour's popularity will enable the US to become more involved on the side of the Egyptian middle class.

However, Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri's brother, Mohamed al-Zawahiri, has vowed to bring a new terrorism to Egypt. Up to 300 Muslim Brotherehood leaders are being rounded up but the Brotherhood will probably turn out en masse to cause chaos that will lead to violence. The army is going to have to start shooting them in the streets.

One could foresee this when the original Arab Spring mass protests began and resulted in Mubarek being tossed out. The Brotherhood was highly organized while the middle class protesters went home, resulting in the Brotherhood winning the elections. The US didn't have much choice except to support "democracy" as it was in Egypt at the time.

The army will have to do something to limit the Brotherhood's participation in the new election, or have reason to believe enough of the middle class will turn out this time to overcome the Brotherhood's vote. The perfect outcome is the Brotherhood being in the new government but as the minority opposition, which is a challenge to engineer.

The alternative is a campaign of terrorist violence by the Salafist radicals, al Qaeda and other extreme Muslim groups, which may occur anyway now that the Brotherhood has been tossed out of government.

Washington is quietly in favor of the army while publically supporting the middle class Tamarod movement, and opposes radical Muslim violence, all of which position Washington well at this point and going forward. Turkey needs to put its weight behind the Tamarod middle class movement too.

The USA has been wise to stay out of this event and to maintain its position that there must be a respect for the democratic process.

To those that criticize the US delay in shutting down embassy operations, there was a slow evacuation over the past 2 weeks, and visitors were cautioned. Other countries have followed the same process. The US embassy had to remain open as long as possible so as to provide assistance to US nationals.

If anyone thinks there wasn't a withdrawal of personnel before the public announcements, they are mistaken. This is something that is hushed up for both diplomatic and security reasons. The UK closed its embassy to the public on July 1, Canada closed to the public on July 2, the US embassy closed to the public on July 3. Australia's embassy is still open. Key allies work together in these circumstances and some embassies are used as fall back positions and to provide support to ensure an orderly transition. US and UK military assets are stationed in close proximity to allow for a quick intervention if additional evacuation assistance is required.

My brother in law is there now. He has been a Egyptian Navy consultant for 18yrs. ****Inflammatory baiting comments removed****

Geriatrickid- My deleted comments were in no way directed at you. I agree with you 100%.

[geriatrickid]

LOL. Thanks, I feel the love.

On a tangent, I just hope that all nationals can leave safely and that the violence will be kept to a minimum.

We can all do with a little less killing and mayhem.

[David48]

Got it running here down in the Pub Forum @ a-military-coup-in-all-but-name

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That is now closed, you can post what you posted there here.

Apologies metisdead.

The reason that I didn't post here is that this news item is 6 months old.

They are really different subjects.

I didn't want a confusion between this OP and the Military coup under way.

I'm sure the guys will have the news item up soon and post there for sure.

Thanks ...

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Edited July 4, 2013 by David48

[Publicus]

There are some remarkable photos in the first link below, the theme of which is "No water, No electricity, No gas."

Morsi failed to deliver the goods, being interested only in solidifying the Muslim Brotherhood's increasing grip on power while moving toward Sharia Law, all of which is too much to bear for middle class Egyptians.

It appears there'll be a period of political instability in Egypt for a while longer, perhaps a long time, to include extremist Muslim terrorism.

LIVE BLOG: On The Ground In Cairo With Egyptian Journalist Wafaa Badry

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/on-the-ground-in-cairo-live-blog-with-journalist-wafaa-badry-2013-7#ixzz2Y3DEkvog

Egypt Orders Mass Arrests Of Muslim Brotherhood Members

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/egypt-orders-mass-arrests-of-muslim-brotherhood-members-2013-7#ixzz2Y3CVbOiF

500 Marines Poised To Pounce On Egypt

http://www.businessinsider.com/500-marines-poised-to-pounce-on-egypt-2013-7

Some 500 Marines with a special-purpose Marine-Air Ground Task Force have been moved from Spain to Sigonella, Italy, to be better positioned should the U.S. need military force to respond to the crisis in Egypt, This comes after the Pentagon and the Obama administration endured heavy criticism for a perceived inability to respond militarily to an assault on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, last year that left four Americans dead.

Edited July 4, 2013 by Publicus

[Chicog]

There are some remarkable photos in the first link below, the theme of which is "No water, No electricity, No gas."

Morsi failed to deliver the goods, being interested only in solidifying the Muslim Brotherhood's increasing grip on power while moving toward Sharia Law, all of which is too much to bear for middle class Egyptians.

It appears there'll be a period of political instability in Egypt for a while longer, perhaps a long time, to include extremist Muslim terrorism.

LIVE BLOG: On The Ground In Cairo With Egyptian Journalist Wafaa Badry

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/on-the-ground-in-cairo-live-blog-with-journalist-wafaa-badry-2013-7#ixzz2Y3DEkvog

Egypt Orders Mass Arrests Of Muslim Brotherhood Members

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/egypt-orders-mass-arrests-of-muslim-brotherhood-members-2013-7#ixzz2Y3CVbOiF

500 Marines Poised To Pounce On Egypt

http://www.businessinsider.com/500-marines-poised-to-pounce-on-egypt-2013-7

Some 500 Marines with a special-purpose Marine-Air Ground Task Force have been moved from Spain to Sigonella, Italy, to be better positioned should the U.S. need military force to respond to the crisis in Egypt, This comes after the Pentagon and the Obama administration endured heavy criticism for a perceived inability to respond militarily to an assault on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, last year that left four Americans dead.

Strange place to put them when they have bases in Kuwait and Saudi, or perhaps that's just the cover story.

[chuckd]

There are some remarkable photos in the first link below, the theme of which is "No water, No electricity, No gas."

Morsi failed to deliver the goods, being interested only in solidifying the Muslim Brotherhood's increasing grip on power while moving toward Sharia Law, all of which is too much to bear for middle class Egyptians.

It appears there'll be a period of political instability in Egypt for a while longer, perhaps a long time, to include extremist Muslim terrorism.

LIVE BLOG: On The Ground In Cairo With Egyptian Journalist Wafaa Badry

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/on-the-ground-in-cairo-live-blog-with-journalist-wafaa-badry-2013-7#ixzz2Y3DEkvog

Egypt Orders Mass Arrests Of Muslim Brotherhood Members

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/egypt-orders-mass-arrests-of-muslim-brotherhood-members-2013-7#ixzz2Y3CVbOiF

500 Marines Poised To Pounce On Egypt

http://www.businessinsider.com/500-marines-poised-to-pounce-on-egypt-2013-7

Some 500 Marines with a special-purpose Marine-Air Ground Task Force have been moved from Spain to Sigonella, Italy, to be better positioned should the U.S. need military force to respond to the crisis in Egypt, This comes after the Pentagon and the Obama administration endured heavy criticism for a perceived inability to respond militarily to an assault on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, last year that left four Americans dead.

Strange place to put them when they have bases in Kuwait and Saudi, or perhaps that's just the cover story.

The only possible place to put them in Saudi would be in Riyadh, and this action would likely not be allowed by the Saudi government.

The nearest international airport to Sigonella is in Catania, Sicily. NAS Sigonella is a short drive from the airport in Catania.

Riyadh is 1010 miles (1,630 kilometers) from Cairo.

Kuwait City is 999 miles (1,610 kilometers) from Cairo.

Catania is 1060 miles (1,710 kilometers) from Cairo.

Doesn't seem like such a strange deployment at all.

[Mosha]

Time to pack up and head home, for non Egyptians

[lannarebirth]

Very possible Egpyt is headed for civil war which will have larger ramifications on the whole Middle East/Arab region.

Yep, stuff like this is very bad news. That whole region is destabilizing.

You say that as if that weren't the whole intention of American policy in the region. Or were you doing a victory lap?

[lannarebirth]

The current US leader confuses "tweeting out" with leadership.

He shows none, he is absent.

Why are US diplomats at this late hour being told to leave?

From one horrible Sec State to the next. To ignore a problem is not the same as dealing with it.

Nor is it it the same as creating it.

[lannarebirth]

The US cannot support a coup so one consequence is that US financial aid will be suspended, at least until new elections are held. The Egyptian economy is a basket case as it is so it will only get worse.

At least the military installed as interim president Adly Mansour, chief justice of the Constitutional Court and the favorite of the ordinary Tamarod protest movement of the middle class masses. Mansour's popularity will enable the US to become more involved on the side of the Egyptian middle class.

However, Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri's brother, Mohamed al-Zawahiri, has vowed to bring a new terrorism to Egypt. Up to 300 Muslim Brotherehood leaders are being rounded up but the Brotherhood will probably turn out en masse to cause chaos that will lead to violence. The army is going to have to start shooting them in the streets.

One could foresee this when the original Arab Spring mass protests began and resulted in Mubarek being tossed out. The Brotherhood was highly organized while the middle class protesters went home, resulting in the Brotherhood winning the elections. The US didn't have much choice except to support "democracy" as it was in Egypt at the time.

The army will have to do something to limit the Brotherhood's participation in the new election, or have reason to believe enough of the middle class will turn out this time to overcome the Brotherhood's vote. The perfect outcome is the Brotherhood being in the new government but as the minority opposition, which is a challenge to engineer.

The alternative is a campaign of terrorist violence by the Salafist radicals, al Qaeda and other extreme Muslim groups, which may occur anyway now that the Brotherhood has been tossed out of government.

Washington is quietly in favor of the army while publically supporting the middle class Tamarod movement, and opposes radical Muslim violence, all of which position Washington well at this point and going forward. Turkey needs to put its weight behind the Tamarod middle class movement too.

The Salafists are one of the few groups in Egypt that have behaved morally. Yes, they are not fit to govern and the ramifications would be disastrous, but stop painting whatever boogeyman you are against today as devils incarnate. You're not an Egyptian are you? Frankly, it is none of your business.

[lannarebirth]

No it really is a coup. Morsi is gone & he isn't coming back. Good riddance to a bunch of bloodthirsty terrorists.

I am so proud of the Egyptian military for deposing these guys.

Too bad the obama regime had no clue this was coming. They have the NSA busy doing other stuff.

The situation in Egypt was one of the scenarios anticipated. No one is surprised. However, what did you expect the USA to do? Did you expect intervention? The USA and other western governments were wise to stay out of this internal matter. the muslim brotherhood is already blaming the USA and Israel for the removal of Morsi.

The fact remains that Morsi was democratically elected. His position had to be respect by foreign governments. The President of Turkey has faced some riots and protests too. Should the EU intervene? What about in Brazil where mobs went wild protesting the elected government? Should South American countries intervene? How about when the Greeks were having far worse protests? Should Turkey have invaded to restore order?

Governments that somehow "got elected" will always respect that process. Just so long as no one looks too closely at all the other "pillars of democracy" that were abolished in the process. The Shinawatra elections are a good example.

[Scott]

The OP does not mention the US. This topic is about Egypt. Further discussion of US policy will result in posts being deleted and posters being warned.

As difficult as it might be for some to grasp, not every thread is about the US.

[manarak]

This topic is from January 2013.

I am very surprised that there were no new topics opened in "world news" about the current events in Egypt.

I think that's a shame, it makes me wonder how topics for this section are selected?

[JetsetBkk]

This topic is from January 2013.

I am very surprised that there were no new topics opened in "world news" about the current events in Egypt.

I think that's a shame, it makes me wonder how topics for this section are selected?

I've got an idea for a new topic:

"Egypt Independence Day, July 4th 2013"

Congratulations Egypt and good luck for the future.

[David48]

This topic is from January 2013.

I am very surprised that there were no new topics opened in "world news" about the current events in Egypt.

I think that's a shame, it makes me wonder how topics for this section are selected?

Yes, I must admit I find that weird also.

I started one in the Pub Forum (early Thai time) with the expectation that once the guys in Thailand get cracking, mine would be closed and the new one here opened.

Don't know why that hasn't happened yet.

I'm fairly sure that the guys only have a limited source for their stories (everything costs something) so are maybe waiting for the source material to come through.

But I agree ... one of the biggest stories to break this year.

I'm sure it's coming ...

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[Scott]

The topics are generated through an external news feed.