Lite Beer Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Ratree freed because of PM's efforts: Surapong The Nation on Sunday BANGKOK: -- Foreign Minister Surapong Towichukchaikul yesterday credited Friday's release of nationalist activist Ratree Pipattanapaibul to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Yingluck's talks with Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen last year led to the release, "as had been promised by Samdech Hun Sen," Surapong said, using the Khmer honorary title used by the long-time leader. Surapong, who is concurrently a deputy premier, also thanked the government of Cambodia for allowing Ratree to go free. newsjs The foreign minister said the Thai government would also seek to help Veera Somkwamkid, head of the Thai Patriots Network arrested by Cambodian soldiers along with Ratree and other Thai nationals while inspecting a border area in 2010. "The government will find ways to help him in an appropriate manner," Surapong said. He said the government did not rule out the possibility of asking for Veera to serve the remainder of his jail term in Thailand. "We will have to raise this matter with the Cambodians. We will do our utmost about this matter," he said, adding that there could be some problem as Veera's case was security-related, and not just an ordinary criminal offence. Veera and Ratree were sentenced to eight years and six years in prison, respectively, by a Cambodian court in 2011 for spying and trespassing in a military zone. Ratree was released on pardon and Veera saw his jail term reduced by six months. The pardon was granted to mark the cremation of late Cambodian king Norodom Sihanouk. Just hours after being released from a Cambodian jail on Friday, Ratree flew back to Bangkok with the help of the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh. She arrived at the Suvarnabhumi Airport on Friday night and was welcomed by her family and some 100 members of the Thai Patriots Network and Santi Asoke Buddhist sect. Many well-wishers carried placards with messages welcoming her back. It was a tearful reunion with family and friends for Ratree, who had been jailed for over two years. She was due to spend the weekend resting at home and would later have a medical check-up, according to her niece Narisa Thong-ngoen. Ratree was very tired due to the long time in jail, her niece added. In a related development, Deputy Prime Minister Phongthep Thepkanjana will next Tuesday lead a team of Thai legal experts to meet with foreign consultants in London to discuss how to fight the legal case with Cambodia in the International Court of Justice, according to a source. The advice will be used in Thailand's final verbal statement to be given to the court during the hearing in April. -- The Nation 2013-02-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locationthailand Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Of course the PM was 'credited'. No politician would pass up a media chance such as this, yet strange it had to come from the lame Foreign Minister who could not secure anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Chalk another one up for Thaksin. It always helps in these matters if the main players in this negotiating scenario are international statesmen. Whoops!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Could be interesting though in the long term. Perchance it's a case of we give you your back your boy, you get the kudos, however we get to keep our territorial rights over an Indian temple that straddles the border region. Every action has a consequence. Or in this case if a Thaksin is involved every action has a financial return for the Thaksin clan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Chalk another one up for Thaksin. It always helps in these matters if the main players in this negotiating scenario are international statesmen. Whoops!!! Thaksin? But Yingluck is getting the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 In a related development, Deputy Prime Minister Phongthep Thepkanjana will next Tuesday lead a team of Thai legal experts to meet with foreign consultants in London to discuss how to fight the legal case with Cambodia in the International Court of Justice, according to a source. The advice will be used in Thailand's final verbal statement to be given to the court during the hearing in April. Meeting Thaksin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Jailed because of 2 PM's efforts and released because of another PM's effort. In other words she has been used by 3 PM's. Poor lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 IMHO Howdy Doody is also entitled to some of the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I wonder why Yingluck didn't greet her at Swampy for a photo op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozfromoz Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I wonder why Yingluck didn't greet her at Swampy for a photo op? Far too busy and far too important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I wonder why Yingluck didn't greet her at Swampy for a photo op? She " welcomed by her family and some 100 members of the Thai Patriots Network........" Yingluk would need at least 1000 bodyguards in such company. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Could be interesting though in the long term. Perchance it's a case of we give you your back your boy, you get the kudos, however we get to keep our territorial rights over an Indian temple that straddles the border region. Every action has a consequence. Or in this case if a Thaksin is involved every action has a financial return for the Thaksin clan.. Not a Indian Temple but a Hindu Temple. Hindusim was the major religion in the area before Buddhism came to the fore front.. But why so much time and energy spent on these two losers, let them serve there time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangTalk Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Perchance it's a case of we give you your back your boy, you get the kudos, however we get to keep our territorial rights over an Indian temple that straddles the border region. It's a Khmer Hindu temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 It's a Khmer Hindu temple. ... that used to be on Thai territory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Evidently K Ratree was not informed that Yingluck was responsible for her release. Not one word of praise or thanks to Yingluck. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Evidently K Ratree was not informed that Yingluck was responsible for her release. Not one word of praise or thanks to Yingluck. Interesting. I think she will send a thank you letter to Dubai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 It's a Khmer Hindu temple. ... that used to be on Thai territory. the solution that worked for decades till Thaksin and Hun Sen had other ideas was "overlapping area" everyone was happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I wonder why Yingluck didn't greet her at Swampy for a photo op? She " welcomed by her family and some 100 members of the Thai Patriots Network........" Yingluk would need at least 1000 bodyguards in such company. DPM Chalerm knows where to find 10,000 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 It's a Khmer Hindu temple. ... that used to be on Thai territory. the solution that worked for decades till Thaksin and Hun Sen had other ideas was "overlapping area" everyone was happy with that. Not really "overlapping" since neither country has really been using the disputed territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Well done the Yingluck team, free the yellowshirts, they are Thai.....a little misguided at times, but they are Thai and deserve your assistance in times of hardship caused by errors of judgement....again well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I wonder why Yingluck didn't greet her at Swampy for a photo op? I'm surprised the didn't put "A gift from Thaksin" sticker on her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 It's a Khmer Hindu temple. ... that used to be on Thai territory. the solution that worked for decades till Thaksin and Hun Sen had other ideas was "overlapping area" everyone was happy with that. Not really "overlapping" since neither country has really been using the disputed territory. they called it overlapping area, so no one loose face of give up any rights on that unimportant place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 they called it overlapping area, so no one loose face of give up any rights on that unimportant place. Give up rights????? What are you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Ratree freed because of PM's efforts: Surapong I wonder just how much effort it takes for something like this. The scenario, after all the money making stuff has been discussed. Y " Oh Hun before I forget, Thaky says if you don't let that troublesome cow out like you said, he will make you play off scratch in the next game and it's $100 000 a point remember." H "Bo***x, I suppose so, tell him I hope his next s***'s a hedgehog" Y "Thanks Hun, now how many designer shops are in the mall here"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 they called it overlapping area, so no one loose face of give up any rights on that unimportant place. Give up rights????? What are you on? If both countries have the opinion that they own that land, and therefor call it overlapping area, and later just one country owns it, than the other gave up its right on the land. And as the case is not clear the Thai Nationalists will feel that the land was stolen from Cambodia for the next 100 years. Specially as the situation isn't really clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 If both countries have the opinion that they own that land, and therefor call it overlapping area, and later just one country owns it, than the other gave up its right on the land. And as the case is not clear the Thai Nationalists will feel that the land was stolen from Cambodia for the next 100 years. Specially as the situation isn't really clear. It's a disputed area, not overlapping. It can't be in both countries. The courts may decide that a country will have to "give up it's rights" to the land. Neither country will do it voluntarily. They certainly won't share the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) Foreign Minister Surapong Towichukchaikul yesterday credited Friday's release of nationalist activist Ratree Pipattanapaibul to Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. The long-running stage play went into hiatus for a bit, but "Magnanimous Display of Helping Fake Spies" has returned for the closing Act IV. The thread: Posted 2011-09-15 Thai Activists Veera And Ratree Not Being Freed: Cambodia http://www.thaivisa....a/#entry4700033 And just like Hun Sen's last orchestrated fake spy play to benefit his ol' pal, Thaksin... ========================================================================== Thaksin to join Chavalit, Pheu Thai MPs to see Thai engineer released Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and Pheu Thai Party chairman Chavalit Yongchaiyudh will fly to Phnom Penh to see the Thai engineer released by the Cambodian government. Maj Gen Kattiya Sawasidpon said Saturday that Thaksin, Chavalit and other Pheu Thai MPs would witness the ceremony of the release of Sivarak Chutipong. Sivarak was convicted in the spy charge and received a royal pardon by the Cambodian King on Friday. -- The Nation 2009/12/12 ========================================================================== Act II, Scene I of the play, "Magnanimous Display of Helping Fake Spies", is about to begin... ========================================================================== Thaksin to visit Cambodia BANGKOK, 10 September 2011 (NNT)- Former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has a plan to travel to Cambodia next week. the two associates needed to complete two-thirds of their sentence before a royal pardon could be granted =========================================================================== now on to Act II, Scene II of the play, "Magnanimous Display of Helping Fake Spies", is about to begin... which is intriguingly inserted to make mention of an obstacle Thaksin faces with his pardon. Cambodia will ultimately relent on that specific requirement and eventually release the 2 jailed Thais (probably quite soon and with great flourish, same as the first bogus spy charge case quoted above). The cries will then go up, "If Cambodia can removes that obstacle, why can't Thailand?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today, the curtain opens for Act III, Scene I of the play, "Magnanimous Display of Helping Fake Spies" with a slight twist in the cookie-cutter script... while proclaiming an inability to change the obstacle, 2/3 of a shortened sentence results in a release soon. ======================================================================== Hun Sen to seek reduced jail terms for Veera and Ratree Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen promised visiting Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra yesterday that he would seek reduced jail terms for two Thai activists imprisoned for espionage, but insisted a royal pardon could be considered only after they had served two-thirds of their sentences. http://www.nationmul...R-30165432.html ======================================================================== Today, Feb. 3, 2013: Curtain Closes. . Edited February 3, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) Chalk another one up for Thaksin. It always helps in these matters if the main players in this negotiating scenario are international statesmen. Whoops!!! Nothing but a cast of bad actors in a cheap way-off-Broadway play with its highly predicted, from 2 years ago, finale. . Edited February 3, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 (edited) Chalk another one up for Thaksin. It always helps in these matters if the main players in this negotiating scenario are international statesmen. Whoops!!! Thaksin? But Yingluck is getting the credit. oops... even those purporting Yingluck is the real PM sometimes trip up and reiterate she's not. . Edited February 3, 2013 by Buchholz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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