cyprean Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 An argument for getting a bigger vehicle here in Thailand. Even the Camry is doing bad. Small Car Safety in reality (Toyota Vios NHTSA Angle 20% Overlap Frontal Impact crash test) Vios: A narrow-offset frontal impact to examine a new test procedure.!! Indicates extreme injury measures (A likelihood of fatal injuries) DriverHIC: 1281Neck Tension: 1287NChest G's: 33g'sL/R Femurs: 10040/5692 (Newtons)Rear PassengerHIC: 426Neck Tension: 1662NChest G's: 50g's!!L/R Femurs: 2864/1592 (Newtons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyprean Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Heres details of the tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) One of the main reasons I just bought a pick-up truck and sold my Honda City, there are so many trucks on the road here so I decided to get one as well and sit high. I don't think I will ever own a sedan car agin in Thailand. Edited March 24, 2013 by guzzi850m2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyprean Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) It seems that only a few car models are made to take a small overlap crash properly. One of them is the new Accord among a few others that you can find on the testers web page. Too bad we dont have similar tests from trucks. The new Ranger is faring very well in traditional tests though. Edited March 24, 2013 by cyprean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Yes the new Ranger do very well in crash tests, I got one of those. Some older types trucks don't fare well in crash tests but I read somewhere that many main manufactures in Thailand will soon make new trucks and I am sure that this time they will much better crash wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well, that was the reason I got a SUV in the first place... Survivability being certainly better in a higher vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Please explain why you think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Please explain why you think so. No comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 and yet strangely the passenger area is ok in both video's . And possibly the crash force has been absorbed by the crush zone.. not so on the ladder frame trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Please explain why you think so. http://www.ancap.com.au/faqs there you go, you never know you might learn something personally 5 stars seem to be a no -brainer... How well does ANCAP testing compare to real world crashes? Analysis undertaken by the Monash University Accident Research Centre has shown that there is a good correlation between the ANCAP crash test results and the vehicle's actual real world performance as measured in the Used Car Safety Ratings. International studies have shown cars that perform better in crash tests provide better occupant protection than vehicles that perform poorly in crash tests; A US study found a driver is 74% less likely to die in cars rated good than cars rated poor in car to car head on crash of two cars of similar mass. A Swedish study also found cars with three or four stars are approximately 30% safer than cars with two stars. Can a compact or sub compact car protect you in a side crash with a much larger car like a 4WD? The main risk to the occupants of a small car struck in the side by a high, heavy vehicle like an 4WD is severe head injury. It has been found in real-world crashes that head-protecting side airbags, such as inflatable curtains, do a remarkably good job in these circumstances (see for example, the research by the US Insurance Highway). That is one reason that ANCAP insists on a good result in its side pole test for a 5-star occupant protection rating. If a large, heavy sedan and a small, light sedan both receive five stars and the same ANCAP scores, is the large sedan safer for the occupants than the small sedan? It is not appropriate to compareANCAP ratings across vehicle categories, particularly if there is a large weight difference. The reason is that in car-to-car crashes, the heavier vehicle has a theoretical advantage (due to the physics of the crash). Similarly, a higher ride height might be an advantage in a car-to-car crash. However in single vehicle crashes, such as with solid fixed objects, the weight might no longer be an advantage. So it depends on the type of crash. Also some small cars do remarkably well in crashes with larger vehicles as they have very strong passenger compartments and advanced occupant restraint systems and these features make up for the mass disadvantage. Edited March 24, 2013 by mark131v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Good video ,shows different body damage and occupants fine. Mark good info but only a few care. You can stick Trucks for me, the tests don't report on Kidney damage caused by Cart Suspension, or Tumble Over down the Mountain Factor, we get about 4 a month, even with the Anti Wobble Gadgets.Nah, i'm to old for Carts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Obviously, a SUV or a pickup should not be driven in the same manner as a Ferrari or a Lamborghini... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Obviously, a SUV or a pickup should not be driven in the same manner as a Ferrari or a Lamborghini... Try telling that to Old Nop in his Tuna , or a Spotty Thai Oik in his Full Race Isuzu.Id say the main benefit of a truck is visibility.I plead Guilty to Disliking Trucks, they keep attacking us Non Bouncy Folk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) The point of the videos in the OP was, some real world crashes are more severe because small overlap bypasses some of the protection structure. The 20% off-set test is a new test promoted by the US Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, and has not (yet) been adopted by NHTSA, ANCAP or European NCAP. It is interesting the Toyota models performed badly, but some other notable cars also did not do well e.g. Mercedes C Class, Audi A4, see http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=15 However this does not compare small and large cars or pickups. There is not yet any testing of pickups for this type of crash, chances are some will not do well. Big vs small, high vs low and even new vs old are all debatable. Neither crash tests or accident statistics make comparison simple. 5th gear did a grahic example with a Renault Espace and a LR discovery The Discovery did not fair well but it is an old design. It would be interesting to see how much better a newer pickup or 4WD would perform. Edited March 25, 2013 by Jitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Who cares, get on yer Pony and Ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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