wigantojapan Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Please get you facts right. A short extract from the song was played by both the BBC's and commercial radios' chart shows, along with an explanation of why they weren't playing the song in full; i.e. that it was in bad taste. Something I hope they would do with any song which celebrated the death of anyone; whether I agreed with the deceased politics or not. The BBC were well aware of the satirical nature of the other song but played it in full as it was not celebrating her death but a comment on her policies. (See here) Interesting that you accuse them of lack of balance for not playing it (even though they did!) yet the Daily Mail say that playing it 'caused outrage' (see here). Seems to me that yet again the BBC are facing accusations of bias from both extremes of the political divide. A sure sign that they are getting it about right, in my opinio.. Maybe the person who made the statement would sit down with you over a nice cup of English tea and discuss the facts. Doubt it some how young man. Like you said just about right in your opinion,,,,,so your opnion isnt just about right...... it is right..... and it is your opinion,,,,not any of the links that you kindly provided.. You learn something new everyday Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 What are you wittering on about? Take more water with it; young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 You learn something new everyday Really? .... some people just exist and have their prejudice set in stone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ystradyfodwg Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Margaret Thatcher's funeral will cost £10 Million pounds.This equates to the building of 2 brand new primary schools at £5 Million pounds each.Wouldn't naming these schools after Thatcher be far more beneficial and bring both sides of this longstanding divide a little closer together? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b19bry Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Margaret Thatcher's funeral will cost £10 Million pounds.This equates to the building of 2 brand new primary schools at £5 Million pounds each.Wouldn't naming these schools after Thatcher be far more beneficial and bring both sides of this longstanding divide a little closer together? So so churlish, Margaret won 75 Billion (i.e.not million) in rebates for the UK from the EU. Besides as far as I've heard the Thatcher family is covering a substantial part of the funeral cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajab Al Zarahni Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Margaret Thatcher's funeral will cost £10 Million pounds.This equates to the building of 2 brand new primary schools at £5 Million pounds each.Wouldn't naming these schools after Thatcher be far more beneficial and bring both sides of this longstanding divide a little closer together? You can't have a funeral at nil cost however I wholeheartedly support your proposal to name something after to her to honor her life and achievements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ystradyfodwg Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm sure you could have a funeral for a few thousand pounds rather than £10 million.No pleasing some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajab Al Zarahni Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm sure you could have a funeral for a few thousand pounds rather than £10 million.No pleasing some people. You could, however she wasn't the president of Albania, she was the first female Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and the longest serving Prime Minister of the 20th century. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b19bry Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm sure you could have a funeral for a few thousand pounds rather than £10 million.No pleasing some people. I repeat, she won 75Bn in rebates which is 750 x 10 million. A 10 million of which the family are covering a significant percentage No, satisfying the mean-spiritedness of some apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ystradyfodwg Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 What a waste of hard working taxpayers money! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajab Al Zarahni Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm sure you could have a funeral for a few thousand pounds rather than £10 million.No pleasing some people. I repeat, she won 75Bn in rebates which is 750 x 10 million. A 10 million of which the family are covering a significant percentage No, satisfying the mean-spiritedness of some apparently Look at my signature and reflect carefully before deciding to repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 How the BBC reported the chart show Ding Dong download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajab Al Zarahni Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 What a waste of hard working taxpayers money! I don't work but I do pay a lot of tax. I'm glad my tax is being spent on honoring Margaret Thatcher rather than supporting the idle, the work shy and the feckless. Please note that I do not include the hard working working class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ystradyfodwg Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I pay plenty of tax too but would prefer it spent on something more worthwhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It appears that the Queen may have some doubts. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/11/thatcher-funeral-pomp-concerns-palace http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/15/lady-thatcher-funeral-arrangements-criticised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajab Al Zarahni Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) I pay plenty of tax too but would prefer it spent on something more worthwhile. No! No! No! Thanks for your company. Must go now, it's bed time. Edited April 15, 2013 by Rajab Al Zarahni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b19bry Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It appears that the Queen may have some doubts. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/11/thatcher-funeral-pomp-concerns-palace http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/15/lady-thatcher-funeral-arrangements-criticised Completely mis-representative post, the Queen expressly indicated her desire to attend the funeral Diane Abbot the main protaganist of the second reference is a bigoted & manic racist, not worthy of any intelligent airtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beautifulthailand99 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It appears that the Queen may have some doubts. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/11/thatcher-funeral-pomp-concerns-palace http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/15/lady-thatcher-funeral-arrangements-criticised Completely mis-representative post, the Queen expressly indicated her desire to attend the funeral Diane Abbot the main protaganist of the second reference is a bigoted & manic racist, not worthy of any intelligent airtime The Queen was it appears never a huge fan of Maggie and is quite protective of the panoply of state rituals (remember Diana and the flag / state funeral) so it is entirely reasonable to suggest that she may have had doubts at the way this has been handled. As for Diane Abbot - she is a good friend and TV companion with Michael Portillo who was a member of Maggie's cabinet so I suspect that he would take umbrage with your extreme opinion of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b19bry Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I pay plenty of tax too but would prefer it spent on something more worthwhile. Thankfully your personal preference for a budget funeral is not significant in comparison to the elected government's preference for a more respectful ceremony to one of the greatest UK's leaders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b19bry Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It appears that the Queen may have some doubts. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/11/thatcher-funeral-pomp-concerns-palace http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/15/lady-thatcher-funeral-arrangements-criticised Completely mis-representative post, the Queen expressly indicated her desire to attend the funeral Diane Abbot the main protaganist of the second reference is a bigoted & manic racist, not worthy of any intelligent airtime The Queen was it appears never a huge fan of Maggie and is quite protective of the panoply of state rituals (remember Diana and the flag / state funeral) so it is entirely reasonable to suggest that she may have had doubts at the way this has been handled. As for Diane Abbot - she is a good friend and TV companion with Michael Portillo who was a member of Maggie's cabinet so I suspect that he would take umbrage with your extreme opinion of her. Never a huge fan ? This was the first funeral after Churchill that the Queen expressly indicated she wished to attend Diane Abbot a good friend of Michael Portillo ? She's a 'friend' in a media sense for god's sake on TV, hardly real life. Whether he would defend her is up to question, however I have seen her being totally bigotted on national tv and that's not an extreme view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Another example of the Cultural Divide: How many folks read The Morning Star.? True! but how many people believe the Daily Mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b19bry Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Another example of the Cultural Divide: How many folks read The Morning Star.? True! but how many people believe the Daily Mail? A hell of a lot more than believe the Morning Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Please try to stay slightly on the topic of Lady Thatcher. My apologies, let me rephrase: If you are Uk non-resident, why do you think you are paying for the funeral of Lady Thatcher? Er, because I am still paying UK income tax and so, in common with other UK taxpayers, I am contributing towards the cost of her funeral, albeit in a very small way, since it is being paid for out of the public coffers. Ah I see, so you are UK non-resident but not for tax purposes, understood! Sorry, let's get back on track else we'll get yelled at. The cost of her funeral may still be born by Expats Taxes,through having an Income or Private Pension Scheme,taxed at source,in the UK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I do not celebrate her death…not now, after her 23 years of retirement from public life. I would certainly have celebrated her death had it occurred whilst she was the Prime Minister so comprehensively rejected by my country, Scotland. Her death, at this current time, is of no significance…other than to remind Scots of the need to vote for independence in order to prevent another Thatcher controlling our lives despite any democratic legitimacy, in a way so contrary to our own culture and our views on the nature of our society. Thatcher as well as her legacy Blair are the 2 main recruiting factors for an Independent Scotland Agreed her death is of no significance Disagree Cameron has arleady enforced a Thatcher style will and policy on the people of Scotland,It is happening now A lot of this debate has been about figures .statistics etc You can bet the figure of people who find it offensive and corript and a political act for the costing of the funeral with their money in Scotland at least will beway higher than the 10% mentioned earlier Feelings run so deep of Thatchers History in Scotland,this could easily be a boost for Salmonds Campaign for an Independant Scotland,and i'm English! perhaps that's why he kept his speech on her passing,extremely low key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 She's dead. Rehashing 20 year old arguments is irrelevant. The sooner her funeral is over with the sooner the newspapers in the UK can return to reporting news rather than printing 10 page spreads about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Off-topic posts, replies as well as reported posts have been deleted. Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 My apologies, let me rephrase: Please try to stay slightly on the topic of Lady Thatcher. If you are Uk non-resident, why do you think you are paying for the funeral of Lady Thatcher? Er, because I am still paying UK income tax and so, in common with other UK taxpayers, I am contributing towards the cost of her funeral, albeit in a very small way, since it is being paid for out of the public coffers. Ah I see, so you are UK non-resident but not for tax purposes, understood! Sorry, let's get back on track else we'll get yelled at. The cost of her funeral may still be born by Expats Taxes,through having an Income or Private Pension Scheme,taxed at source,in the UK! I worked it out, based on a taxable UK income of GBP16,500 per year, the average expat with such an income would contribute GBP 0.032 towards the cost of the funeral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awayego Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Aye, that's GBP 0.032 too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pitrevie Posted April 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2013 Chiang Mai I worked it out, based on a taxable UK income of GBP16,500 per year, the average expat with such an income would contribute GBP 0.032 towards the cost of the funeral. Did you ever work for a bank? That is the sort of trick they usually play in order to disguise the true cost. They always reduce the figure to some insignificant amount so that they can disguise the true cost. We learn today that the government is doing the same thing by stating that unlike on previous occasions they will not be counting the cost of the police or military as they would be working anyway. Just how disingenuous can you get? The police and military used will have to be bussed in as they come form surrounding forces not only from the Metropolitan area and for the police it will involve overtime and cancelled leave, Then there will be catering, accommodation and extra support costs. I was once involved with the Met Police and a special operation always entailed a huge extra cost. This is a state funeral in everything but name and is going to cost a lot of public money, money that Thatcher was loathe to spend on far more deserving cases when she was in office. I don't think many opposed a state funeral for Churchill a man who united the country and it says everything about Thatcher that so many are so opposed to this shabby event. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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