Father Ray Foundation Needs Ride On Mower / Lawnmower

[Spaniel]

Whereabouts is this "village"

I think you can get that info here: www.fr-ray.org

[kirkieb]

Well if you know the entry to Siam Country Club coming from Lake Maprachan then the signs are on the right to Father Rays Village, follow the Polo club signs u will see the kids village on the right. If you let me know I will meet you there am usually there most days

Edited April 18, 2013 by kirkieb

[johanohl]

Hi, I think I can help. I have brand new push movers and also ride on both brand new and second hand. Brand is briggs and stratton which is propably the biggest american brand in this type of garden machinery. Price brand new push petrol 5,5 HP 8,000 thb, Ride on Briggs stratton double cutters electric start petrol 17,5 hp is 99000 thb, I also have a one year old ride on for 60 k. Happy to offer you these dealer prices and hope others can join in to raise the funds. We will be happy to deliver for fee to this good cause. call me on 081-8671321, Johan

[weegee]

Hi Kirkieb,

This is what i have we can use for a while, if I can get it to you....

should knock over 10 acres in less than a day...if the ground is suitable

Rgds

Weegee

Home in 2 weeks

[kirkieb]

Hi Johanohl

Thanks they are the best prices we have been offered but considering we are only at 7000 Baht so far in our fund raising we are going to be a fair way off the ride on idea. We have so many wonderful sponsors of the Foundation already and the Foundation is desperate to raise money for a Special Needs Kids Classroom which we just have room for the kids to be in class one time a week so all funds are assigned to that project that is spare.

I cant ask the Foundation for anymore money at this point. On the other side the push mower is as good as we can hope for. I have been told to stick with Honda only because many of the locals tell us its still not a common brand here for workshops to repair Briggs and Stratton. I personally just want a mower that is happy to work hard and will last us for a few years and parts are cheap and easy and accessible. and most professional gardeners in Oz all use Hondas just for longevity they get from them. Open to your professional advise as Im just the crazy bugger that wants to push it and make sure the kids areas are clear of long grass for snake s to hide in.

Love to know what you think johanohl as to the ability to do such a big regular job with the Briggs

Kindest regards

kirky

[kevvy]

http://www.fr-ray.org/ Just in case there are more sceptical people that look for bad and cant see the good Im trying to do I invite you to come and have a look at the kids Village. Its open every day The Village is Near the Polo Club or the Big Chinese Temple about two minutes from the Lake. This is a genuine Community spirited plee for help nothing more. If your interested in helping these kids then please feel free to send me a message but if your someone who has tall poppy syndrome keep your negative attitude to yourself these kids have had it bad enough without more of that stuff in their lives.

went there today and seen so many young children so happy .The OP is doing such a great job, come on everybody try and help this man get his Honda lawnmower, if everyone just donate as little as 100 baht that would really help. He is getting close to his target and only needs about 7000 baht more. So please help him as he is doing so much to help without getting paid .

[kirkieb]

Hey Weegee

When can we have it and for how long? I have 7000 Baht so far donated by some wonderful Thaivisa mbrs and maybe that would be close to put it on a truck and send it up here if those that donated agreed.

Would make a huge difference to the area. One of our mutual mates visited the place today and was humbled by it all.

Kirky

[kirkieb]

Thanks Kevvy nice words and great support will never get enough of that as far as the kids go but it certainly helps me and the many other great people make a difference.

Kirky

[kirkieb]

A lady I know in Australia who is on an invalid pension has just sent me message to say she has made all these scarves and sold them at a market and has raised 3000 Baht towards our lawnmower so now we have 10000 baht towards a Honda 5.5 hp or a deposit on a ride on or transport costs to borrow a ride on for a while from Phuket.

There are some great people out there.

[johanohl]

Hi Johanohl

Thanks they are the best prices we have been offered but considering we are only at 7000 Baht so far in our fund raising we are going to be a fair way off the ride on idea. We have so many wonderful sponsors of the Foundation already and the Foundation is desperate to raise money for a Special Needs Kids Classroom which we just have room for the kids to be in class one time a week so all funds are assigned to that project that is spare.

I cant ask the Foundation for anymore money at this point. On the other side the push mower is as good as we can hope for. I have been told to stick with Honda only because many of the locals tell us its still not a common brand here for workshops to repair Briggs and Stratton. I personally just want a mower that is happy to work hard and will last us for a few years and parts are cheap and easy and accessible. and most professional gardeners in Oz all use Hondas just for longevity they get from them. Open to your professional advise as Im just the crazy bugger that wants to push it and make sure the kids areas are clear of long grass for snake s to hide in.

Love to know what you think johanohl as to the ability to do such a big regular job with the Briggs

Kindest regards

kirky

You can have mine for 7000 as it is for a good cause. Unless you want to spend the double on a Honda.

[weegee]

Hi Johanohl

Thanks they are the best prices we have been offered but considering we are only at 7000 Baht so far in our fund raising we are going to be a fair way off the ride on idea. We have so many wonderful sponsors of the Foundation already and the Foundation is desperate to raise money for a Special Needs Kids Classroom which we just have room for the kids to be in class one time a week so all funds are assigned to that project that is spare.

I cant ask the Foundation for anymore money at this point. On the other side the push mower is as good as we can hope for. I have been told to stick with Honda only because many of the locals tell us its still not a common brand here for workshops to repair Briggs and Stratton. I personally just want a mower that is happy to work hard and will last us for a few years and parts are cheap and easy and accessible. and most professional gardeners in Oz all use Hondas just for longevity they get from them. Open to your professional advise as Im just the crazy bugger that wants to push it and make sure the kids areas are clear of long grass for snake s to hide in.

Love to know what you think johanohl as to the ability to do such a big regular job with the Briggs

Kindest regards

kirky

You can have mine for 7000 as it is for a good cause. Unless you want to spend the double on a Honda.

Thats all it takes to get him started...good offer, but it must be a Honda engine around the gxv160 minimum...It's too hot here in thailand for briggs and stratton engines, i have found...and they have their problems....

[kirkieb]

Have our mower and it hasn't had much rest in passed week and place looks so much better. One snake only encountered. Thanks for everyones efforts but we could use a ride on or old tractor for future slashing ha ha Thanks everyone

Kirky

[bunta71]

Convert most of the area into an organic veggie garden. The advantages are innumerable...at least let the grass clippings remain to break down and keep the soil alive...

Edited May 6, 2013 by bunta71

[kirkieb]

Hey Bunta

Its how I would do it also but no money for labor, no tractor for ploughing,had to raise the money for the lawnmower and poor thing wont last long so we focusing on around the homes in the village. Would love a Ride on and still working on that. The grass clippings are all being spread around to return as much to the soil as we can. Want to start a compost area but distance and small mower catcher means being emptied every few minutes so walking back and forward to a compost area acres away is a little too hard to imagine. In time my vision is a tractor or ride on with a trailer and collecting all clippings and cuttings to compost. The kids all go back to school in less than two weeks so its just me.

If your free or have a tractor with cultivator then would love to hear from you if you can help us out.

Kirkie

[bunta71]

Sorry I can't be of much use to you on the mower needs. I wish you lots of success with your mission. When I lived there in Pattaya, I went to the Fr. Ray folks for help with a neighbor child that was regularly beaten badly by his Grandpa. Two days later some kind of social people with police powers showed up and fixed that problem. I would suggest leaving the grass cuttings where they fall rather than carry to a compost pile. Still seems that somehow with all those kids there would be some interested to learn how to grow free food... anyway the best of luck

Edited May 6, 2013 by bunta71

[kirkieb]

Hi Bunta

Got to tell you I know how difficult it is for these kids to get into the organisation. They just dont have the power or authority to accept kids or take them. Like all countries there is a huge amount of bureaucratic rules to get thru. These kids have to get in front of the government people who take them and place them. Is very sad I tried to get one accepted also but without the paperwork and officials who tick the boxes. All we can do is pray for them and hope more people become aware and offer their help.

[kirkieb]

Hi Bunta

Got to tell you I know how difficult it is for these kids to get into the organisation. They just dont have the power or authority to accept kids or take them. Like all countries there is a huge amount of bureaucratic rules to get thru. These kids have to get in front of the government people who take them and place them. Is very sad I tried to get one accepted also but without the paperwork and officials who tick the boxes. All we can do is pray for them and hope more people become aware and offer their help.

Just an update for anyone interested The Wet has arrived and the grass is growing like crazy. I still think the ride on is the only way I will get through all the grassed areas with so many trees it rules out a slasher. So if you can all keep your eyes out or watch the forums for Farangs who have made their fortune and little to spend it on tell them we need a ride on mower yesterday. At this point any would be great but a 48 inch cutting deck would be perfect.

[seasia]

Hi

I am not sure if the following would help in raising funds, just an idea.

Many foreigners living in Pattaya get through some glass/plastic bottles and some cans.

These can be sold for a little cash.

Maybe only 50 baht a month per person, not even sure.

Multiply by say 50 though.

If someone with a vehicle and some time would collect them and sell them, there`s perhaps some extra money for Fr. Ray Foundation.

Might be a flawed idea but it is a genuine one.

I`d certainly store mine for a month or so if of any help.

If 100 members would do so, could make a fair bit of difference.

[swissie]

The "Father-Ray" foundation would be well advised to finally publish some figures (Accounting).

Up to this day, the father-ray foundation refuses to account for how many seriously affected AIDS-Patients they have under their "financial-umbrella" and the cost associated by this.

Until some transparency enters their business-acumen. Non money to them!

Cheers.

[kirkieb]

The "Father-Ray" foundation would be well advised to finally publish some figures (Accounting).

Up to this day, the father-ray foundation refuses to account for how many seriously affected AIDS-Patients they have under their "financial-umbrella" and the cost associated by this.

Until some transparency enters their business-acumen. Non money to them!

Cheers.

Not sure why you bothered to respond. Swissie, The Foundation is getting so big that they have things going on I'm not privy to being a volunteer and mainly focusing on Orphans. The figures you speak of focusing on a group of unfortunate people with HIV has absolutely nothing to do with me trying to find a ride on mower to keep 60 kids mostly under the age of ten with backgrounds we both can only be grateful we were born in better places with Government Support. Your issues with the Foundation should be addressed in a more appropriate forum or even better with the President and the Foundations Administration. Its because people have issues with irrelevant things that unfortunately prevents a wonderful organisation achieving an even higher performance and helping more than the current 850 Thai Children and young adults. Im trying to raise money or even better get a ride on lawnmower donated so it doesn't need to be brand new just in good condition would be great. I'm a pensioner and a realist and know there is not one big organisation in the world that someone doesn't have an issue with but if we all focus on every bad point then there will never be any more good points and really in the end its just the kids that have nowhere else to turn.

Hope you can see what I'm trying to do Swisse and your always welcome to help me push the lawnmower and keep your money in your pocket I wont say no to any help

[kirkieb]

Hi

I am not sure if the following would help in raising funds, just an idea.

Many foreigners living in Pattaya get through some glass/plastic bottles and some cans.

These can be sold for a little cash.

Maybe only 50 baht a month per person, not even sure.

Multiply by say 50 though.

If someone with a vehicle and some time would collect them and sell them, there`s perhaps some extra money for Fr. Ray Foundation.

Might be a flawed idea but it is a genuine one.

I`d certainly store mine for a month or so if of any help.

If 100 members would do so, could make a fair bit of difference.

Seasia that's what I call really good advise. The foundation does this already and every plastic bottle we can find or tin can is used in recycling and a small amount of money is produced from this. We employ people who were residents and now have a job doing such recycling programmes returning the funds into the kity. There is a recycling centre in Town also that accepts any furniture, clothes,electrical or anything they may be able to sell for the charity.

[kirkieb]

Just an update for you Swisse

I will ask the president as soon as I see him myself and see if he will give me some figures you ask about. Cant promise he will but am willing to ask for you.

Brad

[kirkieb]

Thailand Childrens Trust Work with kids with HIV

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Baan Tharn Namchai Orphanage Khao Lak

[kirkieb]

Just an update for Swisse

Have done my research today and asked all the hard questions just for you. So here it is. Originally in 2007 Father Ray had the Pattaya Orphanage. They at that time had HIV kids. The Foundation lost the Orphanage because the Council decided they didn't want the Foundation and Catholic Church to sell the land for a big Catholic School and was taken over by Government. It was a messy and very disturbing time for the unfortunate kids who were in the middle The children in the Orphanage were unfortunate victims loosing their families twice. Those with HIV became members of an Organisation now relocated in Bangkok and all HIV orphans were sent to that facility where they get the right treatment with specialist care.

Father Ray no longer handle HIV kids as they require huge funding and specialist care.

Baan Tham Orphanage in Khao Lak also have many HIV kids.

So Swisse I have addressed your request in the best way I could.

The funding for all the programs is released in the Newsletters and I have re read several last editions today just to see why you are so concerned about funding. There is a great breakdown and from how I interpret the figures, over 850 kids, that are orphans, blind, disabled or special needs are given food, education, clothing, medical, and a safe place with up to 200 staff paid to work with these kids, 40% of the income goes there to wages. Then there are all the many uniforms, the kids wear, the many shoes, the many underpants etc etc etc. at the end of each year there is approximately 4% of all incoming funding remaining as the needs for the kids increase and donations slow down. A total of approx. 5 million US dollars per year is the income. You do the sums and just for the water and electricity alone to house 850 kids is quite substantial.

Its the best I can do to answer your questions Swisse.

I hope this has helped open your pockets and help me get a ride on mower for the Children's Village

Brad

[boosta]

Many donors from/in western countries expect open audited financials.

Lots of "charities" here provide a high level of comfort for their found and/or top-level staff, or are outright frauds if not fronts for nefarious activities.

Not implying anything about this one of course, just stating widely known facts about this part of the world.

[kirkieb]

[weegee]

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Now I can see your problems....have this bloody internet working again, will be in touch

[swissie]

Hi Brad, thanks for info and PM.

For sure you understand that with the thousands of NGO's operating in Thailand and especially Cambodia, with the sole purpose of providing their "workers" with a SUV-Automobile along with a lavish salary and showing presence. Potential sponsors of such ventures have gotten somewhat suspicious.

- The Royal-House in Thailand is well know to support charitable and worthwhile organisations benefiting Thai-Citizens that have fallen on hard times. A baby born with AIDS for example, will qualify !

So your well meaning efforts, on behalf of the Father-Ray-Foundation should be directed this way. Upon approval, you will receive much more than a lawnmover in no time at all.

Try it and keep us all posted.

Cheers.

[weegee]

Hi Brad, thanks for info and PM.

For sure you understand that with the thousands of NGO's operating in Thailand and especially Cambodia, with the sole purpose of providing their "workers" with a SUV-Automobile along with a lavish salary and showing presence. Potential sponsors of such ventures have gotten somewhat suspicious.

- The Royal-House in Thailand is well know to support charitable and worthwhile organisations benefiting Thai-Citizens that have fallen on hard times. A baby born with AIDS for example, will qualify !

So your well meaning efforts, on behalf of the Father-Ray-Foundation should be directed this way. Upon approval, you will receive much more than a lawnmover in no time at all.

Try it and keep us all posted.

Cheers.

He is trying hard enough to get some support.....good on him. If we all keep posting on this thread, maybe a Thai with an English avatar, will pass the word on up the chain...

[boosta]

Meantime get the kids out there with sickles - just make sure to space them out far enough away from each other!