School Fees For Non Thai Born Kids

[exoticguy]

Our son is born in Malaysia and will have to attend a school in Thailand.

What are yearly school fees that result for foreigners?

I'm asking for standard as well as international schools.

[scorecard]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

Edited April 20, 2013 by scorecard

[Greenside]

The most important question to ask is if non-Thai children are accepted in government schools, and I don't have an answer to that although someone else here may know. The basic info you are after is:

Thai government schools: Fees minimal, as is the education which is almost impossible with class sizes often in the 50's.

Private schools: Thai Programme 35 - 60,000 per year; English Programme: 80 - 100,000 per year; International 180,000 - several million a year.

That's only a very rough guide and there are significant variations between schools as there is with class size, facilities and quality of staff. In addition, private schools will levy a one-off enrollment fee of some sort which is likely to set you back at least 50,000 baht.

There are many threads on Thai Visa discussing the education choices in CM - you should take some time out to read those first. Bottom line: look at a lot, choose one, then rent a house conveniently nearby and see how things work out.

[exoticguy]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

My girlfriend is Malaysian-Chinese and I'm Austrian. The son is 8 years old and holds a Malaysian passport.

It makes the most sense to put him in an English focused school, but I can imagine that they are more expensive.

We want him to live with us.

I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him properly at home.

[exoticguy]

The most important question to ask is if non-Thai children are accepted in government schools, and I don't have an answer to that although someone else here may know. The basic info you are after is:

Thai government schools: Fees minimal, as is the education which is almost impossible with class sizes often in the 50's.

Private schools: Thai Programme 35 - 60,000 per year; English Programme: 80 - 100,000 per year; International 180,000 - several million a year.

That's only a very rough guide and there are significant variations between schools as there is with class size, facilities and quality of staff. In addition, private schools will levy a one-off enrollment fee of some sort which is likely to set you back at least 50,000 baht.

There are many threads on Thai Visa discussing the education choices in CM - you should take some time out to read those first. Bottom line: look at a lot, choose one, then rent a house conveniently nearby and see how things work out.

What's the least time consuming course there is?

Can you send me the links to the threads where this topic was discussed?

[Greenside]

Use the search box to find other threads.

All school days are about the same.

Home schooling is legal but onerous.

Try learning to write politely, it will get you further on this forum.

[wolf5370]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

My girlfriend is Malaysian-Chinese and I'm Austrian. The son is 8 years old and holds a Malaysian passport.

It makes the most sense to put him in an English focused school, but I can imagine that they are more expensive.

We want him to live with us.

I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him properly at home.

AT 8 I doubt any school will take him part time. I home school my kids now (for several years now) - but originally sent them to a bi-lingual school (English Program: about 50-75% taught in English, rest in Thai, Thai curriculum plus extra, from about 80k/year)

I think there are two questions to ask yourself really (others are detail): 1-Do you want him to learn Thai as well, as a first-language level (i.e. not as a foreign language) and 2- How much money can you afford. (there is also, what qualifications do you wish him to end up with / curriculum).

If you want a western curriculum and western exams, then its either international school or home school (tutoring).

If you can't afford international school or want him to make contacts here and speak/read/write Thai like a local, then a good EP program ant a bi-lingual school may be best. There are several here with varying prices: Sarasat/Sacred Heart/Varee to name a few. Note though that these are really meant for Thai kids who want to learn English as well rather than the reverse - so English will be easier and Thai harder than an Int. school.

Schools take a lot of day time for kids here - especially if the bus is involved - my kids used to be up a 5am to get the 5:45am school bus and get home at 6:30pm - there was no alternative, and this was a major reason I started home schooling them instead. This leaves little time for other studies (or even homework). Try to live near the chosen school if possible.

[wolf5370]

There are also online schools - this is like home schooling/tutoring with a remote teacher. Not cheap I guess, but possible. This would be difficult with a Thai child as there are requirements for home schooling (education level of parent - listen curriculum etc) - which you may not have and would not be relevant if the tutor was doing the teaching anyway. Home schooling has bee legal here since 1997 (wish-washy law about parental choice of schooling made it a choice), but wasn't really accepted until it was "hardened" in law in 2007. Home schooling needs to be registered at the local Amphur (town hall cum registry office, sort of) - but that only applies for Thai children or resident foreigners.

The other thing to consider is the Visa situation. With a Thai school, an educational visa can be got for the child - not so with home schooling, on which he will have to be as part of your non-immigration visa (dependant).

[exoticguy]

Use the search box to find other threads.

All school days are about the same.

Home schooling is legal but onerous.

Try learning to write politely, it will get you further on this forum.

Sorry about that, really didn't want to sound rude.

Thanks for letting me know about this.

[hellodolly]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

My girlfriend is Malaysian-Chinese and I'm Austrian. The son is 8 years old and holds a Malaysian passport.

It makes the most sense to put him in an English focused school, but I can imagine that they are more expensive.

We want him to live with us.

I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him properly at home.

Not meaning to be rude but you say

"I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a

fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create

the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than

happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him

properly at home."

Would you not like him to have an education that would allow him not to have to worry about how much it cost to send his kids to school?

[exoticguy]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

My girlfriend is Malaysian-Chinese and I'm Austrian. The son is 8 years old and holds a Malaysian passport.

It makes the most sense to put him in an English focused school, but I can imagine that they are more expensive.

We want him to live with us.

I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him properly at home.

Not meaning to be rude but you say

"I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a

fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create

the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than

happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him

properly at home."

Would you not like him to have an education that would allow him not to have to worry about how much it cost to send his kids to school?

I can afford to send him to the best schools, but I don't think it's a good investment for his future. I'm a high school dropout and am now running 6 figure online businesses. On thing I know is that my schooling background has nothing to do with my success, in fact it was good to had quit high school.

We really only want to send him to a school because of the VISA he gets, same for us.

The best thing for him is to get educated by successful people, not academic teachers. That's just my point of view and certainly not what the masses think and do.

[scorecard]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

My girlfriend is Malaysian-Chinese and I'm Austrian. The son is 8 years old and holds a Malaysian passport.

It makes the most sense to put him in an English focused school, but I can imagine that they are more expensive.

We want him to live with us.

I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him properly at home.

Not meaning to be rude but you say

"I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a

fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create

the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than

happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him

properly at home."

Would you not like him to have an education that would allow him not to have to worry about how much it cost to send his kids to school?

I can afford to send him to the best schools, but I don't think it's a good investment for his future. I'm a high school dropout and am now running 6 figure online businesses. On thing I know is that my schooling background has nothing to do with my success, in fact it was good to had quit high school.

We really only want to send him to a school because of the VISA he gets, same for us.

The best thing for him is to get educated by successful people, not academic teachers. That's just my point of view and certainly not what the masses think and do.

Wow. So why did you past here in the first place with no details.

Not the approach / behaviors of a typical six figure success story.

[Greenside]

You raise an interesting point. It's certainly true that some people can be successful (however you wish to define it) without formal qualifications, tertiary education and the like, but the ever growing emphasis placed on those (often irrelevant) bits of paper will ensure your child's choices stay limited all the way along the line. Fine, if they grow into the kind of entrepreneur you would like them to be, but rendering them virtually unemployable is a huge gamble that they may not thank you for and could easily end up souring your later life relationships.

If your formal education was limited you'll find home schooling - which, at the end of the day culminates in some sort of formal exam - trying, with many apparent irrelevancies and very, very time consuming. Unless you no longer have to work at all you'll find it a major strain on your personal resources.

Finally, the thing that most entrepreneurs don't factor in is the importance of luck. The convergence of right place, right time, right idea is something that isn't always easy to catch second or third time around even for someone who has "made it", let alone for a child burdened with the expectations of a successful parent so if you can afford to educate them in a manner that society considers well, then I'd go for that and lay a good helping of worldliness on top.

[Loaded]

If you tell certain international schools you are Christian, you'll get the biggest discounts - God works in a very judgmental way in Christian schools which isn't very Christian at all.

[taotoo]

Use the search box to find other threads.

All school days are about the same.

Home schooling is legal but onerous.

Try learning to write politely, it will get you further on this forum.

Sorry about that, really didn't want to sound rude.

Thanks for letting me know about this.

There are two rude people on this thread, and you're not one of them. You're just to the point. Nothing wrong with that.

[exoticguy]

Wow. So why did you past here in the first place with no details.

Not the approach / behaviors of a typical six figure success story.

What difference does it make whether I state my personal financial statements here?. I came here to seek help about school fees, and certainly not to reveal my life's journey to you. Sorry.

I'm just saying that a lot of what is taught in school is a bunch of theoretical knowledge that is useless in the real world.

[wolf5370]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

My girlfriend is Malaysian-Chinese and I'm Austrian. The son is 8 years old and holds a Malaysian passport.

It makes the most sense to put him in an English focused school, but I can imagine that they are more expensive.

We want him to live with us.

I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him properly at home.

Not meaning to be rude but you say

"I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a

fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create

the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than

happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him

properly at home."

Would you not like him to have an education that would allow him not to have to worry about how much it cost to send his kids to school?

I can afford to send him to the best schools, but I don't think it's a good investment for his future. I'm a high school dropout and am now running 6 figure online businesses. On thing I know is that my schooling background has nothing to do with my success, in fact it was good to had quit high school.

We really only want to send him to a school because of the VISA he gets, same for us.

The best thing for him is to get educated by successful people, not academic teachers. That's just my point of view and certainly not what the masses think and do.

OK, maybe something like Payaden school (http://www.panyaden.ac.th/) may be more up your alley - it is Buddhist though (in case you are religious) - but they concentrate more on bonding, learning through nature and activity, etc (check out the website I can't describe it without unintentionally making it sound condescending). To each there own - just be aware that your young fella may have a different bent on life than you, education does more than provide paper qualifications. Good luck - I home school and get enough judgment from that (especially from Thai relations - even though I am a qualified teacher and have better credentials than most of teachers at local schools!) - so I don't envy your choices in this regard.

[wolf5370]

Wow. So why did you past here in the first place with no details.

Not the approach / behaviors of a typical six figure success story.

What difference does it make whether I state my personal financial statements here?. I came here to seek help about school fees, and certainly not to reveal my life's journey to you. Sorry.

I'm just saying that a lot of what is taught in school is a bunch of theoretical knowledge that is useless in the real world.

While that is true in some respects, at 8 he is learning the basics which will be needed in life - like the 3 R's - as well as socialising and following procedures and rules, and taking responsibility (its easy to do what dad says, but that needs to go further in our society) - we have to learn, at least at first, that there are rules that our position and place in society puts on us that we should know how to follow - even if in later life we outgrow them (perhaps).

Also learning often garners interest - he may miss out on a dream simply because he never learns of its existence. When I was a child all I wanted to do was join the Navy - in school I was introduced to computers and my outlook changed (I was in high school at this point, when home computers started to appear - ZX80 on).

In Thailand in particular schooling also provides connections - which in business are a real deal here - the old school tie and school connections (even with ex-teachers/ex-school buddies connecting people decades after graduation) - if he remains here and intends to be in business here, it may well be worth putting up with the schooling just for the contacts (and language/culture skills) that will be acquired.

[exoticguy]

You raise an interesting point. It's certainly true that some people can be successful (however you wish to define it) without formal qualifications, tertiary education and the like, but the ever growing emphasis placed on those (often irrelevant) bits of paper will ensure your child's choices stay limited all the way along the line. Fine, if they grow into the kind of entrepreneur you would like them to be, but rendering them virtually unemployable is a huge gamble that they may not thank you for and could easily end up souring your later life relationships.

If your formal education was limited you'll find home schooling - which, at the end of the day culminates in some sort of formal exam - trying, with many apparent irrelevancies and very, very time consuming. Unless you no longer have to work at all you'll find it a major strain on your personal resources.

Finally, the thing that most entrepreneurs don't factor in is the importance of luck. The convergence of right place, right time, right idea is something that isn't always easy to catch second or third time around even for someone who has "made it", let alone for a child burdened with the expectations of a successful parent so if you can afford to educate them in a manner that society considers well, then I'd go for that and lay a good helping of worldliness on top.

Being an entrepreneur is certainly not for everyone. It's the hardest, most challenging and most difficult area to succeed in. That's why the pay off is multiple times bigger when compared to jobs. That's also why entrepreneurs have opportunities in front of them that average people will never have. Committing to this is well calculated risk but it takes extraordinary tenaciousness to follow through on your visions.

I define luck as being committed to the right thing for you at the right time. Most people have chances but don't use them because they are scared to death. I move to SE Asia at age 22 when I was already running 2 successful online businesses. I wouldn't see anything that happened to be as LUCK (luck in the traditional sense). I worked 12 to 14 hours a day for 1.5 years before I could move here. Do you think most people would be willing to make such a sacrifice? They wouldn't.

I didn't make it through halfhearted work or through half asking my way through life.

That was how it worked for me, and luck was definitely not part of the equation.

[exoticguy]

Use the search box to find other threads.

All school days are about the same.

Home schooling is legal but onerous.

Try learning to write politely, it will get you further on this forum.

Sorry about that, really didn't want to sound rude.

Thanks for letting me know about this.

There are two rude people on this thread, and you're not one of them. You're just to the point. Nothing wrong with that.

Thanks for saying that.

[exoticguy]

Wow. So why did you past here in the first place with no details.

Not the approach / behaviors of a typical six figure success story.

What difference does it make whether I state my personal financial statements here?. I came here to seek help about school fees, and certainly not to reveal my life's journey to you. Sorry.

I'm just saying that a lot of what is taught in school is a bunch of theoretical knowledge that is useless in the real world.

While that is true in some respects, at 8 he is learning the basics which will be needed in life - like the 3 R's - as well as socialising and following procedures and rules, and taking responsibility (its easy to do what dad says, but that needs to go further in our society) - we have to learn, at least at first, that there are rules that our position and place in society puts on us that we should know how to follow - even if in later life we outgrow them (perhaps).

Also learning often garners interest - he may miss out on a dream simply because he never learns of its existence. When I was a child all I wanted to do was join the Navy - in school I was introduced to computers and my outlook changed (I was in high school at this point, when home computers started to appear - ZX80 on).

In Thailand in particular schooling also provides connections - which in business are a real deal here - the old school tie and school connections (even with ex-teachers/ex-school buddies connecting people decades after graduation) - if he remains here and intends to be in business here, it may well be worth putting up with the schooling just for the contacts (and language/culture skills) that will be acquired.

Yeah, that's right. He has to learn the basics in math, writing, and 2 languages.

I've taught him a lot about success and he knows more about hard work than most people who are 16. Still, he has a long way to go and he needs daily training to succeed in life.

[wolf5370]

Wow. So why did you past here in the first place with no details.

Not the approach / behaviors of a typical six figure success story.

What difference does it make whether I state my personal financial statements here?. I came here to seek help about school fees, and certainly not to reveal my life's journey to you. Sorry.

I'm just saying that a lot of what is taught in school is a bunch of theoretical knowledge that is useless in the real world.

While that is true in some respects, at 8 he is learning the basics which will be needed in life - like the 3 R's - as well as socialising and following procedures and rules, and taking responsibility (its easy to do what dad says, but that needs to go further in our society) - we have to learn, at least at first, that there are rules that our position and place in society puts on us that we should know how to follow - even if in later life we outgrow them (perhaps).

Also learning often garners interest - he may miss out on a dream simply because he never learns of its existence. When I was a child all I wanted to do was join the Navy - in school I was introduced to computers and my outlook changed (I was in high school at this point, when home computers started to appear - ZX80 on).

In Thailand in particular schooling also provides connections - which in business are a real deal here - the old school tie and school connections (even with ex-teachers/ex-school buddies connecting people decades after graduation) - if he remains here and intends to be in business here, it may well be worth putting up with the schooling just for the contacts (and language/culture skills) that will be acquired.

Yeah, that's right. He has to learn the basics in math, writing, and 2 languages.

I've taught him a lot about success and he knows more about hard work than most people who are 16. Still, he has a long way to go and he needs daily training to succeed in life.

Did you see my suggestion in post #17 http://www.panyaden.ac.th/ Panyden School - may be the sort of place you are looking for.

[hellodolly]

Politely providing some more details (instead of demanding answers) might help.

Is the child half Thai, or are both parents foreigners to Thailand and where are they from.

What location?

Do you want your child to study in Thai language only,

or in a school where some lessons are in Thai and some in English,

or all lessons are in English,

or in a school which offers other language development options (e.g. Chinese),

Do you want your child to live-in at the school?

Do you have any thoughts at this stage about budget limits?

etc...

My girlfriend is Malaysian-Chinese and I'm Austrian. The son is 8 years old and holds a Malaysian passport.

It makes the most sense to put him in an English focused school, but I can imagine that they are more expensive.

We want him to live with us.

I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him properly at home.

Not meaning to be rude but you say

"I'd prefer to get the least amount of school lessons possible. I'm not a

fan of theoretical things and it certainly did not help me to create

the success that I now enjoy. That being said, I would be more than

happy if he could just attend 2 to 3 hours a day. I will educate him

properly at home."

Would you not like him to have an education that would allow him not to have to worry about how much it cost to send his kids to school?

I can afford to send him to the best schools, but I don't think it's a good investment for his future. I'm a high school dropout and am now running 6 figure online businesses. On thing I know is that my schooling background has nothing to do with my success, in fact it was good to had quit high school.

We really only want to send him to a school because of the VISA he gets, same for us.

The best thing for him is to get educated by successful people, not academic teachers. That's just my point of view and certainly not what the masses think and do.

I understand where you are coming from there has been a lot of high school drop outs who go on to 6 and 7 figure incomes.

But they are just a drop in the bucket compared to the number of drop outs or people who never went to High School.

I don't know you personally but I would be willing to bet that you had a natural flare for what you do and an opening came and you grabbed it. That is one true Cinderella story and there are lots of others.

But for most people they need the education it does not come easily or naturally. I know for my self I have a grade 12 education. When I was in my 40s there was a group of us who would hang around together and just talk about this and that. One of them was a councilor and I found myself in a bad mental space so I asked him if we could talk and he agreed. I was about 5 minutes into my tale of woe when he said "I have heard enough of your Bull Sh-t when are you going to go to collage." I asked him what that was all about and he point blank told me. He said I knew all the answers but I had no background to hang them on with the proper background I could use them in many other places.

So I gave him my last feeble attempt to get out of it and told him some of the dumbest people I knew were collage graduates. He said true they went to collage to learn things. You are supposed to go to collage to also learn how to learn. At 46 I took a couple of classes and next year went back for two more as I found them very mind expanding.

[hellodolly]

Wow. So why did you past here in the first place with no details.

Not the approach / behaviors of a typical six figure success story.

What difference does it make whether I state my personal financial statements here?. I came here to seek help about school fees, and certainly not to reveal my life's journey to you. Sorry.

I'm just saying that a lot of what is taught in school is a bunch of theoretical knowledge that is useless in the real world.

While that is true in some respects, at 8 he is learning the basics which will be needed in life - like the 3 R's - as well as socialising and following procedures and rules, and taking responsibility (its easy to do what dad says, but that needs to go further in our society) - we have to learn, at least at first, that there are rules that our position and place in society puts on us that we should know how to follow - even if in later life we outgrow them (perhaps).

Also learning often garners interest - he may miss out on a dream simply because he never learns of its existence. When I was a child all I wanted to do was join the Navy - in school I was introduced to computers and my outlook changed (I was in high school at this point, when home computers started to appear - ZX80 on).

In Thailand in particular schooling also provides connections - which in business are a real deal here - the old school tie and school connections (even with ex-teachers/ex-school buddies connecting people decades after graduation) - if he remains here and intends to be in business here, it may well be worth putting up with the schooling just for the contacts (and language/culture skills) that will be acquired.

Yeah, that's right. He has to learn the basics in math, writing, and 2 languages.

I've taught him a lot about success and he knows more about hard work than most people who are 16. Still, he has a long way to go and he needs daily training to succeed in life.

You mean to succeed in your expectations of what success is.

I speak from experience my oldest is 50 and making great money.

He is in every way a success in the field he has chosen. Yet due to my expectations of him when he was growing up he is still trying to impress me. He had the talent and the ability yet I put to high of expectations on him and here we are years later and he is still feeling that he is not a success because of the expectations I had put on him when he was growing up. Incidental he to is a high school drop out and well on his way to a 6 figure income this year.

[exoticguy]

Did you see my suggestion in post #17 http://www.panyaden.ac.th/ Panyden School - may be the sort of place you are looking for.

I'm looking into this now..

[thaifkrlim]

since you have to fork out extra money for complicated paperwork and many restrictions for the move to a foreign country alien and far for the 2 malaysians + you, have you ever considered using the same budget but moving to a more exotic place to live within malaysia.

[Dante99]

Did you see my suggestion in post #17 http://www.panyaden.ac.th/ Panyden School - may be the sort of place you are looking for.

I'm looking into this now..

I doubt Panyaden is what you want since you are interested in teaching your child how to be successful (make money) primarily and Panyaden has little interest in that since their main effort is to teach Buddhist behavior and thought which has little or nothing to do with "success".

[hellodolly]

Did you see my suggestion in post #17 http://www.panyaden.ac.th/ Panyden School - may be the sort of place you are looking for.

I'm looking into this now..

I doubt Panyaden is what you want since you are interested in teaching your child how to be successful (make money) primarily and Panyaden has little interest in that since their main effort is to teach Buddhist behavior and thought which has little or nothing to do with "success".

I looked at it and started wondering if 71 was to old. It looked like a great program,

But it is not for teaching one to be a success at any thing in particular more to be a success in life as it comes to you.

No need for a huge income to be a success in life.

[Thakkar]

All other things being equal, better educated people earn more than less educated people. Of course, there are plenty of exceptions, but they are just that - exceptions. No matter how many thousands of examples of these exceptions one trots out, the numbers on the other side are multiples larger.

Besides, education is more than about earning potential, or even about "success", however one wishes to define that. Reading poetry most likely doesn't have much earning potential, but it enriches one's life. So does playing soccer, or discerning the geometry of a well-designed building. One doesn't necessarily have to go to school for any of that, but it helps. It helps a lot.

But wait...there's more...

Formal education is one of those things that is best outsourced, if you can find the right school. At home, it's best to just be a parent. And that includes being: Santa Clause, moneybags, a disciplinarian, a shoulder to cry on, someone to love, someone to hate, a cook, a taskmaster, an admonisher, lame joke maker, storyteller, bike-riding/swimming/driving instructor, tickler, peacemaker, and the guy who reminds them to flush the toilets, switch off the lights, fold their blankets, clear the dishes, walk the dog (like they're ever going to do THAT after the first week), and, for heavens sakes stop fighting over the remote - it's the ONE thing in this damn house that's MINE!

Sorry, got carried away there.

Do you really want to add to that list teaching them: reading, writing, geometry, algebra, literature, biology, chemistry, physics, etc?

T

[jackr]

Give him a break, chaps; though a please 'n thank you here & there might help, he's an abrupt Austrian that's all. Nowt wrong with that, unless your name is Adolf of course.

Not aware of extra fees for foreigners, though there might be at the top-end together with company/religion subsidies etc. Unless you can afford these, where there's a better chance of switched-on farang (and indeed Thai) milling about, I'd suggest minimising class time to minimise brainwashing... get the nipper home and plonk a Kindle (not iPhone) in their lap. Don't even consider the gov' schools; yes there's one or two good ones but you won't get in those.

Good info by greenside & wolf.