Those Famous Last Words "she's Different"

[Jaybonnaza]

Yes I'm sure we have all been here and had fun with the bar girl.

However I would never consider marrying one for the simple reason is there is something wrong with 'most' in the head.

They either gold diggers, cheats, and so on ,".

Just two weeks back I flew back to Phuket to help a mate where I could as his mrs stabbed him.

The thing that always puzzles me is why do men come back time and tims again and get the girl out of the bar thinking they can make her "normal", no I'm not saying its impossible and of you admit to your self you would probably not take her home to the family and tell them where you found her.

Why do men contribute a monthly salary? Confuses me if she is your gf then why pay her?, or if not paying her why allow her to sit around doing nothing and having everything paid for.

My wife strongly agrees on this . Openly admits its shameful and uses her Chinese passport when we can, travelling abroad as she now sees Thailand's bad image and at first it upset her now she is ashamed in some ways having a conversation and then the person states oh yeah bar girls, and so on rather than things like beautiful country bla bla which she likes to hear and thought of Thailand previously.

Admittedly never setting foot in the bar scene till we moved to Phuket from bkk she struggled to make new friends as people struggled on conversations or intelligence matching I can only submise, being asked by friends gfs how much she got a month completely shocked her as well.

Admittedly my bank is her bank and vice verser, but she never realised that foreigners would pay for the company of gfs ECt , she does laugh at what she calls foolish farang, which when you think about it she is right, there and many foreigners having their pants pulled down all the time.

But word must get out that foreigners get mugged by the tgf and this would in my eyes make me steer clear unless for fun, yet you see so many people full in to this trap, my own business partner has 1 million invested in motorbikes in his mrs name only having met her 6 months year ago ..

Thoughts,

No offence to anyone and for others who relationships have worked out well done

[yoslim]

so you're telling us you got a rich high-so thai chinese wife, thanks for sharing

Edited May 1, 2013 by yoslim

[Wilma Fingadoo]

[soi41]

Where on earth did that come from? What has that got to do with my post or behind my post? Take that corn out of your bum and don't comment unless it is a constructive conversation

How can we have a constructive conversation, when you in your OP, makes very clear to us, that you and your partner are superior beings! Everyone is trying to make the best of their lives, and even if you don't agree with their chosen way, what gives you the right to judge? Carefull you don't fall of the high horse!

Live and let live!

[NeverSure]

"...but she never realised that foreigners would pay for the company of gfs ECt..."

BS

[shaggy1969]

What is the purpose of this thread?

Is it....

A... you want to show how stupid foreign men are.

B... you want to show how evil bar girls are.

C... you want to show that you have done well for yourself.

Edited May 1, 2013 by shaggy1969

[lannarebirth]

Didn't any of you people ever listen to your mothers? "Never marry a woman you met in a bar" said mom. I'd say the same applies to women who meet men there as well.

[socrates28]

Wow for a minute there I thought I was on the PA Forum

[smokie36]

Didn't any of you people ever listen to your mothers? "Never marry a woman you met in a bar" said mom. I'd say the same applies to women who meet men there as well.

Good job I know you're wrong.

[kannot]

My Thoughts, you may be surprised to know not everyone has been to a bar or had a bargirl smokes, drinks, etc etc

Not everyone comes to Thailand for that so we haven't " all been there"

Your friend is an idiot in my opinion (no offence to him) any sane person would be filing a complaint and I wouldn't associate with him.

[jvs]

I can think of a few people who will chime in and totally agree with you.

I am not one of those.

We heard it all before and i am sure will again now.

Here is something for you to think about, show me your friends and i will tell you your future.

[Jaybonnaza]

Blimey .

No I did not state I was a higher being!

No I did not state I was better off!

No I did not slate every bar or bar girl off

I stated facts .

As in bs my mrs not know , no she never saw that side of Thailand admittedly from a sheltered life and going straight in to a job in Bangkok PBS , she knew it existed but not so open,

But the post was not about me it was about why do foreign men continue to follow the trend , day after day - I've lost everything , she took it all, or I love her mean while she is screwing bob next door posts

Wake up smell the coffee , not a dig at any one but surely this must be open in public . And people then don't give their hearts with their wallets like they do in 2 weeks - <deleted> me I met a chap yesterday at central who is engaged after a week! Love of his life bla bla - mug was what I thought, agree or disagree it would be frowned upon at home, certainly not done so why out here ?

[Jaybonnaza]

I can think of a few people who will chime in and totally agree with you.

I am not one of those.

We heard it all before and i am sure will again now.

Here is something for you to think about, show me your friends and i will tell you your future.

I'm unsure what you mean about friends and future, mainly acquaintances here in Phuket as prefer Bangkok for friends in common so to speak.

[JLCrab]

The Point of the OP is: Mine IS different.

[supashot]

First there is a gap between thai-chinese and bar girls education. I haven't (yet) seen any thai chinese girls working in a bar or in a gogo and would be a shame for them and the family. I won't even mention the fact to get some money back to the village because their spread their legs.

Expect some heavy fire back in the answers here since most of people here have their bar or gogo or freelance girl experience.

The long term relationship I saw around me with bar girls can be count on the fingers of 1 hand so far. There are some success stories but at what price... Price of monthly "rent" of affection services lead to a dead end in general. And it would in most countries.

It was funny to start to see the comment in the people who replied who consider Thai women either as working girls or Hiso. Hiso is a low class Jetset. All chinese are not rich but have different values and moral.

I totally agree with the fact that Thai-Chinese women are more interesting, more educated, more traditional, more attractive and more business oriented.

Glad to hear an happy couple story!

[Jaybonnaza]

Oh here we go... Im better than you na na

No this is not what I said I stated facts - why can you not see what's beneath your noses ???

There was a post on here not two days ago about a lad being screwed 3rd time round , it's not a few people its a large majority ,

Why do people keep falling into the trap is the question

[JLCrab]

Why do people keep falling into the trap is the question

In your relationship / marriage of whatever number of years, YOU have not fallen into the trap. Given my 10 year relationship, *I* have not fallen into the trap. Why are you so concerned about the trap into which others may fall if it has no direct impact on you?

[homeownership]

My experience of Bar girls, is that many of them come from very poor villages usually in the North or East, where agriculture and subsistence living is a way of life. Unfortunatly it is not very well paid and girls are often not educated. Many fall pregnant in their teens or early twenties and have to make a hard choice.

Either they let their children starve or they become bar girls.

Many of the bar girls meet men and for a couple of weeks, make that person feel like they are special, of course they are going to play the game with several men and kick back money to their village, to ensure their child is fed and well looked after. That their children get the life chances that they could only dream of.

Occasionally,they find love, but all to often they settle for the man who is willing to support them, their families and their villages. Rarely do they find both.

I think your post looks at these women with distain and to be honest I have a real problem with that, the fact that these women are prepared to exploit themselves and put themselves in physical danger with strangers from all over the world and expose themselves to potential life threatening virus and illnesses in order to support their families shows a great deal of courage and fortitude and they should be respected.

You need to look beyond the end of your nose, before saying "she's different".

I know an ex-bar girl and a falang who have spent 15 years together, happy and in love and long may that continue and yes he does support her family and village, he sees himself as part of her world and she shares his world. Its called family.

[JLCrab]

My experience of Bar girls, is that many of them ... Many but I guess by syntax not all of them in your experience. You are just a never-ending fountain of wisdom.

Edited May 2, 2013 by JLCrab

[cgphuket]

Where on earth did that come from? What has that got to do with my post or behind my post? Take that corn out of your bum and don't comment unless it is a constructive conversation

If we are limited to constructive conversations, please delete your original post.

[cgphuket]

Blimey .

No I did not state I was a higher being!

No I did not state I was better off!

No I did not slate every bar or bar girl off

I stated facts .

As in bs my mrs not know , no she never saw that side of Thailand admittedly from a sheltered life and going straight in to a job in Bangkok PBS , she knew it existed but not so open,

But the post was not about me it was about why do foreign men continue to follow the trend , day after day - I've lost everything , she took it all, or I love her mean while she is screwing bob next door posts

Wake up smell the coffee , not a dig at any one but surely this must be open in public . And people then don't give their hearts with their wallets like they do in 2 weeks - <deleted> me I met a chap yesterday at central who is engaged after a week! Love of his life bla bla - mug was what I thought, agree or disagree it would be frowned upon at home, certainly not done so why out here ?

"As in bs my mrs not know , no she never saw that side of Thailand

admittedly from a sheltered life and going straight in to a job in

Bangkok PBS , she knew it existed but not so open,"

[Payboy]

Didn't know dual nationality was possible for China passport holders.

[theblether]

I am staggered at the uniqueness of the OP

[meatboy]

so you're telling us you got a rich high-so thai chinese wife, thanks for sharing

i bet you met her in a chinese take-away,what was her no.

[Scully]

I go to bars for fun, not for sex but to drink and have a laugh with either ex-pats and chat to the girls in the bar, you would be amazed how many won't touch a married man. But this confuses me when you say this :-

"However I would never consider marrying one for the simple reason is there is something wrong with 'most' in the head.

They either gold diggers, cheats, and so on ,".

How do you know when you are sat at the back of the hi-so Chineses restaurant all day cutting up Pak Choi for the nights take aways?.

[yourauntbob]

The Point of the OP is: Mine IS different.

Post of the week!

[krisb]

so you're telling us you got a rich high-so thai chinese wife, thanks for sharing

Who also uses his bank.

Thoughts are troll post.

[yourauntbob]

Oh here we go... Im better than you na na

No this is not what I said I stated facts - why can you not see what's beneath your noses ???

There was a post on here not two days ago about a lad being screwed 3rd time round , it's not a few people its a large majority ,

Why do people keep falling into the trap is the question

Your OP could have been summed up in a few sentences, instead you choose to write a rather long opening post focusing on your relationship and your wife, g/f, whatever. Lets try a little exercise, we will copy your OP but delete three paragraphs.

Yes I'm sure we have all been here and had fun with the bar girl.

However I would never consider marrying one for the simple reason is there is something wrong with 'most' in the head.

They either gold diggers, cheats, and so on ,".

Just two weeks back I flew back to Phuket to help a mate where I could as his mrs stabbed him.

The thing that always puzzles me is why do men come back time and tims

again and get the girl out of the bar thinking they can make her

"normal", no I'm not saying its impossible and of you admit to your self

you would probably not take her home to the family and tell them where

you found her.

Why do men contribute a monthly salary? Confuses me if she is your gf

then why pay her?, or if not paying her why allow her to sit around

doing nothing and having everything paid for.

But word must get out that foreigners get mugged by the tgf and this

would in my eyes make me steer clear unless for fun, yet you see so many

people full in to this trap, my own business partner has 1 million

invested in motorbikes in his mrs name only having met her 6 months year

ago ..

Thoughts,

No offence to anyone and for others who relationships have worked out well done

Did this take anything away from your intended meaning? So what was all the personal info for? It is safe to say that many people here, myself included, think it was to do a bit of bragging.

[kriswillems]

My views on this topic are changing.

I used to believe that 90% of the bargirls are uneducated single women from a poor region with one or more children. They were forced to go to Pattaya (or another sex-tourist destination), because they had to send money to their family that takes care of their children. So, they basically had no option.

Today, things are changing. The average income of a factory worker in this area is well above 10000B /month. So, there's an alternative for those women, still they choose to go to work in a bar.

Today, I believe that most women working in the bars really choose for this option or were sent their by their bad family. So, today I think the chances are extremely small you'll be able to meet a good girl in a bar that just has been unlucky in life.

If a good friend would fall a love with a bargirl, I would warn him, even though I know it's not nice to be judgemental.

The reason why foreigners fall in love with bargirls is pretty obvious: it's this kind of women they are most likely to meet and the women are trained in deception.

I wouldn't call these foreigners stupid, I think naive might be a better word.

Edited May 2, 2013 by kriswillems

[arthurwait]

So your wife uses a passport from the country with the most cheap hookers in the world to hide from being from a country with more expensive hookers ?

Being Chinese Thai only looks good in Thailand, ( To farangs and lower middle class wannabe hi-so Thais) using a Chinese paasport can just mean you are one of the millions of incredibly poor Chinese people. Anyway how many people does she show her passport to ?

And the person who said they haven't seen any Thai- Chinese hookers, open your eyes, there are loads of them freelancing. Soi 11 would be a good place to spot them.

Oh and if the OP's point was why do men keep going back, well it's called sex.