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So how about Thailand refuse US pork

and how about US refuse to import Thai shrimp

If one country uses protectionism the other country will do so

Moscow does not permit the sale of US pork, despite Russia's high growth in pork consumption. Moscow's policy is based on the need to ensure food safety and people's health, Surachai said.

And that's the real point, corruption in the USA allows poisons to be fed to their people.

Shameful!!! Keep it out of here!!!

Do some research before you post. Many countries use the same additive, including Canada, Brazil, Mexico, etc.

This article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/russia-us-meat-ban_n_2660159.html

Indicates politics are probably involved. Which makes sense.

But the move to ban U.S. meat imports worth over $500 million may also be an effort to help domestic producers withstand an influx of cheap meat after Russia joined the World Trade Organization (WTO).

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How about other countries ban Thai pork and see how these folks like it. Price of bacon in Thailand is a joke, actually Thai bacon is full of water and really sucks.

I have to admit Thai bacon is terrible, no meat on it and is only that stringy type. Give me the good Aussie/English style bacon anyday and not the American/Thai style.

I don't see American bacon, as from the United States, in Thai supermarkets. It's like Thais trying to pawn off the garbage they call American fried rice. What's presented in Thailand as American fried rice isn't fit for pig feed - it's sh*t. Same as the "American style" breakfast, which is garbage on the table with the word American as the first word in the menu item.

Americans, as in the United States, like to buy Canadian bacon and NZ lamb. Americans don't eat much pork, relatively measured. Thais are welcome to American pork, GMO U.S. pork in particular - it might make Thais grow bigger. laugh.png .

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Hang on a minute - The US subsidies its farmers - Never see that happening in Thailand

...and as for bringing down domestic prices - well that's good for the consumer isn't it?

If the Thai porcine farmer goes out of business because he can't produce profitably, no, the consumer will not benefit. Then you'll be eating "factory farm" chemical-laced US produced pork. Economics 101. I'll be able to spot US pork at any market, regardless of the packaging. I love Thai produced pork. BIG difference. Could never eat US produced pork again.

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They might allow US pork imports but aren't their prices going to be high like other imports?

Wine, Beer and just about everything else imported is stupid expensive.

Seems a lot of hot air as usual

can anyone think of any imported product that is cheaper than Thai products?

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Love it when the carnivores go at it. LOL...

You need some pork on your fork my friend. The taste of flesh is far better than that of a lettuce leaf.

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They might allow US pork imports but aren't their prices going to be high like other imports?

Wine, Beer and just about everything else imported is stupid expensive.

Seems a lot of hot air as usual

Just apply the same import taxes of 350% as they do with imported cars and every one will simply purchase the locally produced product, maybe apart from a few American expats.

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They might allow US pork imports but aren't their prices going to be high like other imports?

Wine, Beer and just about everything else imported is stupid expensive.

Seems a lot of hot air as usual

Just apply the same import taxes of 350% as they do with imported cars and every one will simply purchase the locally produced product, maybe apart from a few American expats.

That would be a guaranteed WTO case which Thailand would lose hands down.

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Thai pig farmers will be more worried about the import of U.S. offal,

as its worth next to nothing there, while here some kinds of offal are

a lot more expensive than say the pork fillet.

regards Worgeordie

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So how about Thailand refuse US pork

and how about US refuse to import Thai shrimp

If one country uses protectionism the other country will do so

Moscow does not permit the sale of US pork, despite Russia's high growth in pork consumption. Moscow's policy is based on the need to ensure food safety and people's health, Surachai said.

And that's the real point, corruption in the USA allows poisons to be fed to their people.

Shameful!!! Keep it out of here!!!

As much as I am opposed to factory farming, the quality of US pork is comparatively high. The USDA, consumer groups and commercial users regularly test US pork for contaminants and "poisons". What testing is done in Thailand? Is there a mechanism to control contaminants entering the feed system? Do you realize that Thailand still uses animal products in its feed? Are you aware of the local slaughtering practices. For example, a pig in Phuket can be sent to market and no one checks the carcass, and there is no tracking ability. So please, get off your soapbox and comment when you are competent to comment on the integrity of the food supply chain in Thailand.

Thanks for the insight, I guessed as much.

I don't trust any food here and you just confirm it for me.

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They might allow US pork imports but aren't their prices going to be high like other imports?

Wine, Beer and just about everything else imported is stupid expensive.

Seems a lot of hot air as usual

Just apply the same import taxes of 350% as they do with imported cars and every one will simply purchase the locally produced product, maybe apart from a few American expats.

That would be a guaranteed WTO case which Thailand would lose hands down.

That sounds plausible but why are US products in Thailand never cost competitive with any Thai products?

Can anyone name a US product on Thailand shelves that is cost competitive?

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Actually 27 countries, including Japan, South Korea, Mexico, Taiwan, Canada, the United States, have determined that meat from animals fed ractopamine is safe for human consumption.[6] In the USA, ractopamine is allowed to be used at a feed concentration of 5–20 mg/kg feed for finishing pigs and in dosages of 5–10 mg/kg feed for finishing pigs heavier than 109 kg. In Canada, ractopamine is allowed in meal or pellet feed for finishing barrows, gilts, finishing beef cattle and finishing heavy turkeys (toms and hens) only. The maximum residues limit of ractopamine is 50 ppb and 10 ppb in the USA and Japan, respectively.


In August 2012 Taiwan's legislature passed amendments to the food safety act allowing ractopamine in beef.[7]


Recently, Russia has restricted beef and pork imports to those that are certified free of the additive ractopamine

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So how about Thailand refuse US pork

and how about US refuse to import Thai shrimp

If one country uses protectionism the other country will do so

Moscow does not permit the sale of US pork, despite Russia's high growth in pork consumption. Moscow's policy is based on the need to ensure food safety and people's health, Surachai said.

And that's the real point, corruption in the USA allows poisons to be fed to their people.

Shameful!!! Keep it out of here!!!

As much as I am opposed to factory farming, the quality of US pork is comparatively high. The USDA, consumer groups and commercial users regularly test US pork for contaminants and "poisons". What testing is done in Thailand? Is there a mechanism to control contaminants entering the feed system? Do you realize that Thailand still uses animal products in its feed? Are you aware of the local slaughtering practices. For example, a pig in Phuket can be sent to market and no one checks the carcass, and there is no tracking ability. So please, get off your soapbox and comment when you are competent to comment on the integrity of the food supply chain in Thailand.

Thanks for the insight, I guessed as much.

I don't trust any food here and you just confirm it for me.

Here we go again............

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Hang on a minute - The US subsidies its farmers - Never see that happening in Thailand

Thailand sell shrimp to America no problem How about rice

But America sell pork to Thailand NO NO No

Thailand cannot sell shrimps to EU, for the same reason Thailand doesn't accept toxic US pork meat.

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rolleyes.gif The simple solution is for the Thais to open the market in Thailand to U.S, Pork products bur ONLY those that can be certified free of antibiotics and other harmful chemicals.

Make the U.S, pork producers show proof of that and fine or ban any that don't comply with the health regulations.

The result would be:

1. better drug free Pork products

2. Higher prices for U.S, pork (due to costs of compliance with health rules),.

3. And therefore more competitive prices for local drug free Pork products.

A win-win situation for everyone. Just let the market do it on it's own, without government and those polly-a-ticians getting in the way of market forces.

Remember.... those that can, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can neither do nor teach run for office and hope to get elected as politicians.

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They might allow US pork imports but aren't their prices going to be high like other imports?

Wine, Beer and just about everything else imported is stupid expensive.

Seems a lot of hot air as usual

Just apply the same import taxes of 350% as they do with imported cars and every one will simply purchase the locally produced product, maybe apart from a few American expats.

That would be a guaranteed WTO case which Thailand would lose hands down.

The EU has warned Thailand it's in breech of the WTO laws. Do a search on this and you'll see the article.

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It's really puzzling how US pork could be cheaper than Thai pork in the supermarket. What we really need is an investigative article examining the gouging in the Thai pork distribution market channels. That's what makes Thai pork higher, the gouging and the skim in the middle.

Economies of scale and massive drugs!

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Yes of course. Food produced in the US is dangerous and food produced in Thailand is guaranteed safe, especially since they so highly regulate pesticides and herbicides in their food sources and their butchering and transportation facilities are so highly regulated.

I'll take first world food every time. Other people can eat Thai crap that they have no idea where it came from.

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