Is There A "real Deal" Chinese Restaurant In Pattaya ?

[Jingthing]

Taiwanese Chinese friends tell me that the Montien in Pattaya serves some of the best Peking Duck anywhere.

They also spoke very highly of the freshness of the food and were surprised that it was so clean.

Yes, Marco Polo in that hotel is in my experience quite a good and quite an expensive Chinese restaurant. It's an option for those who want to spend that much. That said I haven't been there recently. Dim sum for lunch, when I did go, comparable to Bangkok fancy hotel dim sum. I'm seeking everyday places, not splurge places.

My dream is more like oyster/pork belly claypot rather than a fancy banquet dishes like Beijing duck. Not knocking it though!

Edited May 26, 2013 by Jingthing

[NCFC]

In Bangkok - Ho's Kitchen (yes really) Pracha-Uthit Mengjai Road Rd. Expensive, classy but excellent food.

[Jingthing]

The Chinese food scene is so crappy in Pattaya that people want to talk about Bangkok. Figures.

[MrZM]

There is a restaurant in central festival located on the 6th floor beach side named Canton House.

They have a variety of dim sums, Har Gao, Shu Mai also Prawn Won Tons, Mini ribs, Crab Claw, Prawn Balls and more, Quality is excellent. Each dish is 20baht. They also have Banana Fritters.

It is not a Chinese restaurant, they don't serve sweet and sour dishes etc..

Other than the 20+ choice of dim sums the Fish is lovely as well as another 15+ dishes they serve.

If you enjoy your dimsums this is worth a try.

[Jingthing]

That's a budget chain. The dim sum is not high quality. Their dim sum is so cheap -- you get what you pay for. They have Chinese food and also Thai food. Just because a place doesn't have sweet and sour doesn't mean it isn't a place that serves Chinese food. In my experience their roast duck, stir fried greens, and steamed soy sauce whole fish are OK and well priced. Their Chinese fried rice and noodles super greasy. Haven't tried their Thai food (and wouldn't).

Yes, I am expressing my personal opinion and yes I have eaten at some of the best dim sum restaurants in the world. You be the judge.

If you want reasonably high quality Chinese dim sum in Pattaya, go to the Marco Polo or another fancy hotel restaurant. As far as I know there is no people's popular dim sum restaurant in town that is both high quality and not connected to a high end hotel. I don't believe it is even possible to deliver high quality Chinese style dim sum in Thailand at the prices of the Canton House.

Edited May 26, 2013 by Jingthing

[MrZM]

Your right they may not be fist sized dim sums we would get in Hong Kong.

But the dim sums are quality and fresh.

Your right you get what you pay for as for size of the dim sum.

I don't personally go for the greasy oily dishes they make. The fish is lovely, fried morning glory is really good.

A restaurant that serves both Thai and Chinese cuisine is not a Chinese restaurant.

Everyone has there own opinion.

When I was in Koh Chang there was a Chinese Restaurant, which didnt have one Chinese dish on the menu, now that was really strange.

[jacko45k]

There is one advertising shark-fin on 2nd Rd, before you get to soi 8 left side.

Anyhow, you certainly can be a little more authentic than China Garden, which is more like Chinese style food served up in the UK. On Pattaya Klang there is the Lenkee restaurant specialising in duck dishes.

[Awohalitsiktoli]

No Chinese food here. No Vietnamese either.

Easier to find Mexican or Italian.

Mexican sucks here.

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Yes, Mexican food over here sucks. I have tried all of them. For some reason the cooks do not know how to make sauces. Back on topic, I lived in China, both the north and south, for three years and grew up eating wonderful Chinese-American food. I have never found a place in Thailand that serves "Chinese food." It is perhaps my favorite cuisine, but you can't get it over here (and I lived in Bangkok and did try many places in Chinatown). The Chow Box is, IMHO, awful. I am amazed that not one person has opened a genuine Chinese food place over here with a wide range of popular dishes. I don't care about duck tongue and do not even remember seeing it in China. And, for the record, sweet and sour dishes are popular in many places in China. The Chinese version is much better than the Thai version.

[DiNiro]

In Bangkok - Ho's Kitchen (yes really) Pracha-Uthit Mengjai Road Rd. Expensive, classy but excellent food.

The best in Bangkok?

The Abalone place in the Ma Nam Riverside hotel.

Yes, it is a hotel but the restaurant is packed with locals in everyday.

They have a great discount at lunch too.

The Jasmine in Times Square does a nice job too.

[DiNiro]

In Bangkok - Ho's Kitchen (yes really) Pracha-Uthit Mengjai Road Rd. Expensive, classy but excellent food.

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Edited May 27, 2013 by DiNiro

[Jingthing]

There is one advertising shark-fin on 2nd Rd, before you get to soi 8 left side.

Anyhow, you certainly can be a little more authentic than China Garden, which is more like Chinese style food served up in the UK. On Pattaya Klang there is the Lenkee restaurant specialising in duck dishes.

The shark fin place is indeed a Chinese restaurant, but not so great.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/641875-is-there-a-real-deal-chinese-restaurant-in-pattaya/?p=6440612

As mentioned before I'm certain the Thai-Chinese place Leng Kee DOES have duck tongues at least some of the time because I saw a large handwritten sign there advertising the dish.

Another option that serves both Chinese and Thai food cooked by a lady from Macau is:

HO VA TIM

2nd road

East side

South of Pattaya Klang (not too far down)

There is a Chinese character menu on the wall which is NOT translated into English and nobody there CAN translate it. Sorry.

However, I am pretty certain that the most expensive dish on that menu is ABALONE (not on the English menu).

As far as Macau Portuguese/Chinese fusion dishes the only one I've noticed on the menu is a chicken dish. The picture doesn't look very appealing so I haven't tried. I do wonder if the lady chef does other Macau specific dishes.

This is a charming and funky family restaurant w/ generous portions and very fair prices.

I am not giving this place a strong recommendation BUT there are some Chinese dishes there you might want to try.

There are other dishes that will definitely let you down there.

For example a good one is bitter melon in black bean sauce at 100 baht. For 50 baht more you can ask for it with beef, pork, of squid.

This add meat option is NOT on the menu. You have to ask but they will do it. I suggest the SQUID as the beef is very tough.

Not bad for bitter melon fans!

Chinese fried noodles with beef is not bad except for the beef which is typical Thai tough. Maybe ask with pork.

Seafood by weight cooked in Thai or Chinese styles.

Morning glory fried Chinese style.

Fish maw soup (not my thing but popular in Thailand)

I should also mention that although I haven't tried their Thai dishes such as tom yum and fried rice, I have seen on other tables and the dishes look very nice and also generous portions.

Some might notice I make a distinction between Thai Chinese food and restaurants serving both Chinese food AND Thai food. In my view, Ho Va Tim is the latter. Their Chinese dishes are attempts at actual Chinese food. Also when I say actual Chinese food, I don't mean Chow Box round eye style! 'Nuff said.

Edited May 27, 2013 by Jingthing

[Beardog]

And that is why when I go to San Francisco in 3 weeks I will be eating Chinese & Mexican food galore. I have to agree both venues here are not only near non existent but the quality or portions just are not there. Sometimes it is hell just to find re-fried beans . Even Macro has been out.

Unfortunately Pattaya is no where close to San Fran on any level in the food dept.!

I can think of a few areas Pattaya competes with SF:

Thai food

Korean food

Isaan food

Insect cuisine

Very True. the Thai is a definite Indo-Thai. the only thing in SF you need to watch out for is some of the kitchen sink rice deals with Cat kinda tastes like chicken but squishier. stolen right from Sigmund Stern Grove daily (at least it's fresh lol)

[RabC]

There is a restaurant in central festival located on the 6th floor beach side named Canton House.

They have a variety of dim sums, Har Gao, Shu Mai also Prawn Won Tons, Mini ribs, Crab Claw, Prawn Balls and more, Quality is excellent. Each dish is 20baht. They also have Banana Fritters.

It is not a Chinese restaurant, they don't serve sweet and sour dishes etc..

Other than the 20+ choice of dim sums the Fish is lovely as well as another 15+ dishes they serve.

If you enjoy your dimsums this is worth a try.

And I get cold sweats and insomnia due to the amount of MSG they use there, be warned.

[RabC]

Taiwanese Chinese friends tell me that the Montien in Pattaya serves some of the best Peking Duck anywhere.

They also spoke very highly of the freshness of the food and were surprised that it was so clean.

We use this place 1 or 2 times/per year for a special treat, not cheap but fresh/authentic and tasty food.

[crab]

Good lord! I'm a dim sum lover from way back, including Hong Kong, London and San Francisco. The dim sum at Canton House is not just bad; it's barely edible. IMHO, of course.

There is a restaurant in central festival located on the 6th floor beach side named Canton House.

They have a variety of dim sums, Har Gao, Shu Mai also Prawn Won Tons, Mini ribs, Crab Claw, Prawn Balls and more, Quality is excellent. Each dish is 20baht. They also have Banana Fritters.

It is not a Chinese restaurant, they don't serve sweet and sour dishes etc..

Other than the 20+ choice of dim sums the Fish is lovely as well as another 15+ dishes they serve.

If you enjoy your dimsums this is worth a try.

[Jingthing]

The OP would most likely enjoy this place.

For what they do, I think it is definitely the real deal.

But that's limited to their specialty: Taiwanese hot pot feasts at very surprisingly reasonable prices!

Lots of organ meats and featuring big pork bones with marrow.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/608166-the-hit-and-run-restaurant-review-thread/page-7#entry6196749

Edited May 27, 2013 by Jingthing

[nohabkennot]

And that is why when I go to San Francisco in 3 weeks I will be eating Chinese & Mexican food galore. I have to agree both venues here are not only near non existent but the quality or portions just are not there. Sometimes it is hell just to find re-fried beans . Even Macro has been out.

Unfortunately Pattaya is no where close to San Fran on any level in the food dept.!

I can think of a few areas Pattaya competes with SF:

Thai food

Korean food

Isaan food

Insect cuisine

Sorry to say that Korean food in Pattaya is not good at all (near crap). Korean food in San Francisco is way better than in Pattaya, trust me I do know for sure, as a Korean who has lived in SF for 15 years and 6 years in Pattaya. Sadly there is no way Korean food in Pattaya can compete with Korean food in San Francisco.

[lemoncake]

I would kill for Satay Chicken with Rice, Chinese style but how they make it in Oz

[Jingthing]

And that is why when I go to San Francisco in 3 weeks I will be eating Chinese & Mexican food galore. I have to agree both venues here are not only near non existent but the quality or portions just are not there. Sometimes it is hell just to find re-fried beans . Even Macro has been out.

Unfortunately Pattaya is no where close to San Fran on any level in the food dept.!

I can think of a few areas Pattaya competes  with SF:

 

Thai food

Korean food

Isaan food

Insect cuisine

Sorry to say that Korean food in Pattaya is not good at all (near crap).  Korean food in San Francisco is way better than in Pattaya, trust me I do know for sure, as a Korean who has lived in SF for 15 years and 6 years in Pattaya.  Sadly there is no way Korean food in Pattaya can compete with Korean food in San Francisco.

You win. Long time since I lived in SF and maybe I didn't make it to the best places. That said you are saying you don't like the Korean place off Suk. near Numchai?

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[DavoTheGun]

And that is why when I go to San Francisco in 3 weeks I will be eating Chinese & Mexican food galore. I have to agree both venues here are not only near non existent but the quality or portions just are not there. Sometimes it is hell just to find re-fried beans . Even Macro has been out.

Unfortunately Pattaya is no where close to San Fran on any level in the food dept.!

I can think of a few areas Pattaya competes with SF:

Thai food

Korean food

Isaan food

Insect cuisine

Sorry to say that Korean food in Pattaya is not good at all (near crap). Korean food in San Francisco is way better than in Pattaya, trust me I do know for sure, as a Korean who has lived in SF for 15 years and 6 years in Pattaya. Sadly there is no way Korean food in Pattaya can compete with Korean food in San Francisco.

You win. Long time since I lived in SF and maybe I didn't make it to the best places. That said you are saying you don't like the Korean place off Suk. near Numchai?

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Yes SF is much like Aus ( Melbourne) the best Chinese in the world! maybe, miss it a lot also Italian, Greek, Lebanese. oh well we can only wait until back again, it seems to me many opportunities are being missed here to open good alternative restaurants, I wonder why ?

[HerbalEd]

If you cannot find a true Chinese restaurant in BKK's Chinatown, then you'll never find one ever.

[HerbalEd]

Is There A "real Deal" Chinese Restaurant In Pattaya ?

>I'm told that the biggest chinese restaurant in the world is the Dragon restaurant on Bangna Trad north / west bound very near to BITEC

SC

And this is in Pattaya ?

You should try reading the original post where the OP asks about Chinese restaurants in BKK.

[DavoTheGun]

If you cannot find a true Chinese restaurant in BKK's Chinatown, then you'll never find one ever.

It is pretty much agreed that there are no Real Deal Chinese Restaurants in BKK either! unless most of the people who have responded are wrong.

[akspace]

And that is why when I go to San Francisco in 3 weeks I will be eating Chinese & Mexican food galore. I have to agree both venues here are not only near non existent but the quality or portions just are not there. Sometimes it is hell just to find re-fried beans . Even Macro has been out.

Unfortunately Pattaya is no where close to San Fran on any level in the food dept.!

Do yourself a favor, go to Oakland if you are looking for Chinese food. It's a short trip and it's worth the $3 bart fare for what is arguably better food.

[Jingthing]

If you cannot find a true Chinese restaurant in BKK's Chinatown, then you'll never find one ever.

It is pretty much agreed that there are no Real Deal Chinese Restaurants in BKK either! unless most of the people who have responded are wrong.

Look beyond Chinatown. For example, in San Francisco, most of the most exciting Chinese restaurants are NOT in their Chinatown. Do extensive online research. I am not up on current Bangkok Chinese restaurants but when I used to be into this, I had NO PROBLEM at all finding real deal authentic regional Chinese restaurants (and generally these were NOT in Chinatown). Again, no Bangkok isn't Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, or San Francisco, but compared to Pattaya, it's got quite a lot. Look deeper. The internet is your friend. Research before you spend. Also ... try the BANGKOK FORUM!!!

Also note, at the extremely authentic places, language will be a problem just as it is sometimes in San Francisco with the best stuff being on the wall on a Chinese character menu. Some places you will encounter staff who can't speak Thai or English. They might have an English menu but it will just be a clue so be prepared for surprises, not always pleasant ones. Sometimes what the waiters don't want to sell you because it isn't to western tastes will not be to your tastes! But sometimes it will be a revelation. You don't have great experiences without taking chances.

Edited May 28, 2013 by Jingthing

[lemoncake]

Is There A "real Deal" Chinese Restaurant In Pattaya ?

>I'm told that the biggest chinese restaurant in the world is the Dragon restaurant on Bangna Trad north / west bound very near to BITEC

SC

And this is in Pattaya ?

You should try reading the original post where the OP asks about Chinese restaurants in BKK.

Is that why OP titled it

Is There A "real Deal" Chinese Restaurant In Pattaya ?

[Jingthing]

However the OP titled it or wrote it, this being the Pattaya forum, it's only logical inquiries about BANGKOK restaurants are better placed in the Bangkok forum, yes?

Edited May 28, 2013 by Jingthing

[kevkev1888]

From the OP "Also would be interested in BKK also as an option, have not found there either."

Not too complicated is it?

Edited May 28, 2013 by kevkev1888

[Jingthing]

From the OP "Also would be interested in BKK also as an option, have not found there either."

Not too complicated is it?

Not complicated. But why would most people who know much about Bangkok Chinese places even be reading a Pattaya titled restaurant topic in the Pattaya forum? The majority opinion here is that Bangkok doesn't have any real deal Chinese restaurants. That is so wrong it isn't even funny. It's clear to me this question was asked in the WRONG place.

Edited May 28, 2013 by Jingthing

[StreetCowboy]

Bangna's pretty handy for Pattaya, it's just a short rake up the motorway, and if you're on your way into Bangkok for whatever reason, then it's particularly convenient.

SC