Corruption - A Cancer That Erodes Morality And Wellbeing: Thai Editorial

[Espinete]

Does anyone take The Nation serious? Objectivity? Not present. I once gave them a 18 million baht fraude story 1st handed......no reaction, not interested, no investigation done. Because there were high level influences involved. The Nation buys interesting (international) articles from Agence France Presse, Reuters etc. and publishes. Fair enough. But to fill millimeters about TH they come with this cliche story about the Struggle against Corruption. And when there is a story to investigate they are not home......Good night.

[khunken]

Does anyone take The Nation serious? Objectivity? Not present. I once gave them a 18 million baht fraude story 1st handed......no reaction, not interested, no investigation done. Because there were high level influences involved. The Nation buys interesting (international) articles from Agence France Presse, Reuters etc. and publishes. Fair enough. But to fill millimeters about TH they come with this cliche story about the Struggle against Corruption. And when there is a story to investigate they are not home......Good night.

Pity you just want to shoot the messenger.

Read post No. 10. No newspaper here can properly investigate corruption because of the ridiculous defamation laws. They cannot name names. Even posting anything against anyone on the likes of Facebook is likely to land you in court.

Corruption can be tackled if the government are serious about it. The number one problem is that they're not and up to their neck in it themselves.

[steveyinasia]

Everyone knows this and yet as usual, nothing will be done about it.

[SOTIRIOS]

.......more like a healthy, thriving organism....that has overtaken every facet of society........

[Maggusoil]

How many of you sooth sayers and well wishers come from good ole Mother England?

Sitting rather sadly at 74 on the world wide corruption perception index. Only 14 behind Thailand.

Anyway, I am sure that in many of the so called moral democracies like Australia, as has been shown recently, the corruption is just harder to see.

The politicians and criminals in government are just that much smarter, and more dangerous.

Because they have to be.

You got money. You get to grease.

[Baloo22]

Does anyone take The Nation serious? Objectivity? Not present. I once gave them a 18 million baht fraude story 1st handed......no reaction, not interested, no investigation done. Because there were high level influences involved. The Nation buys interesting (international) articles from Agence France Presse, Reuters etc. and publishes. Fair enough. But to fill millimeters about TH they come with this cliche story about the Struggle against Corruption. And when there is a story to investigate they are not home......Good night.

Pity you just want to shoot the messenger.

Read post No. 10. No newspaper here can properly investigate corruption because of the ridiculous defamation laws. They cannot name names. Even posting anything against anyone on the likes of Facebook is likely to land you in court. Corruption can be tackled if the government are serious about it. The number one problem is that they're not and up to their neck in it themselves.

Yes! Reform of the libel/defamation laws and "press shield" laws must be enacted to allow a free press to function effectively with aggressive investigative journalism. Read about Erika Fry in Escape From Thailand and Escape from Thailand: Epilogue.

Also, I am not going to be too mocking towards individual journalists and news organizations now working in Thailand. I recall what happened to journalist Wisut ''Ae'' Tangwittayaporn in Phuket.

Edited June 6, 2013 by Baloo22

[Arkady]

It is somewhat desperate to put the onus on the business sector to stop paying bribes. No one (including the holier than thou types masquerading in the Coalition Against Corruption) is going to stop paying bribes completely when that means losing out to the competition. The initiative must come from government to stop its own dirtbags from demanding the bribes. It has been done with reasonable success in Hong Kong and Singapore by raising government salaries and ruthlessly prosecuting those who get caught, including those who have assets or expenditures that don't match their income (sorry military and police generals on B 20 k a month). Until there is a determined push from government to do something about corruption, nothing will change and it has been getting dramatically worse over the last 10 years or so.

Edited June 6, 2013 by Arkady

[heybruce]

If you truly want to be considered a legitimate and respectable news organization, then give specific facts about corrupt acts, the people, businesses and agencies committing those acts, and what is or what is not being done to address the corruption. Otherwise, why not just complain about the weather?

If they named names they would be sued for libel, while no action would be taken against the guilty. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/624318-british-activist-fighting-to-avoid-thai-jail-term/?hl=%20libel%20%20activist

A good first step in any fight against corruption is to free the press.

[hellodolly]

Who in Thailand of any position thinks it really causes any damage? In fact who in Thailand really understands the external costs of corruption? I go with maybe 5% of the population. They are trying to teach people it is bad, immoral, illegal, but in reality, I don't think most Thai's really grasp how damaging it is.

If they did, there would be literally thousands of reported cases every week.

Well I have no idea of how to get the figures on corruption. So I will just use the standard 30% figure. If some one with better investigative skills than me could just get the real figures on Government spending figure what 30% of that is and divide it by the amount of Thai working people and let them know how much is being taken out of their pocket I think the acceptance of corruption would go way down.

People just have no idea of how much it is costing them.

[hellodolly]

A cancer that erodes morality and wellbeing

...yet about half of the population thinks it is "okay", if they themselves benefit from it!

Farang can't understand Thainess.

But he understand corruption

Thai no understand corruption.

[hellodolly]

Posted Today, 10:46

kurnell, on 06 Jun 2013 - 06:21, said:

blah blah blah

Why so rude? don't you think what is being mentioned is the truth, don't you think that we are getting tiered of this criminal act.

Do you know that in China corruption is viewed so seriously that it is considered as a capital crime and if found guilty the usual sentence is death?

mampara,why do you say that,you know its cheap talk,if your so concerned march on parliament and voice your concerns,we promise to be right behind you,,,,,

Now I say blah blah blah!

Exactly. Nothing will ever change. You can bank on that. Never, ever, ever.

Are you talking about Thailand. You had best reread the article they are getting more and more corrupt.

Or were you talking about the blah, blah, blah and the Yada, yada, yada gang

[Thai at Heart]

A cancer that erodes morality and wellbeing

...yet about half of the population thinks it is "okay", if they themselves benefit from it!

Farang can't understand Thainess.

But he understand corruption

Thai no understand corruption.

Ergo, Thainess is corrupt?

[PEP]

Well fellow members, Can anyone advise me where or to whom, I as a village resident, can report "first hand" klowledge of so called minor corruption.

This level of corruption exists (?) in many local government deals that are "arranged". Perhaps only a Free Lunch with that ubiquitous Bottle of Imported Whiskey or a few thousand Baht "for your help!"

Edit spelling!

Edited June 7, 2013 by PEP