angryfarang Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 That looks like a speed test to Singapore by the results. Go to the top and click Server Selection. Testing to San Jose gives a pretty good indication of the speed to the West Cost of USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I say again... You said "My international gateway is a solid 15 down and 1" It is not possible to have a 15Mb connection to the USA, NL, Germany or any other country outside of Thailand. Even to Singapore, the next closest hop. Try some real speed tests here to different servers and post your results. http://testmy.net I send x amount of data in x amount of minutes. Why would I want a speed test? I download x amount of data in x amount of minutes. Why would I want a speed test? I get 15/1 24/7 (mostly) 365. I don't care if you say I cannot and I don't care if I think I cannot because that is what I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leola74 Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 What kind of ping times do you see to NY? E.g. from here: http://startping.com/ (gotta know your IP, e.g. from here: http://whatismyipaddress.com/) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I say again... You said "My international gateway is a solid 15 down and 1"It is not possible to have a 15Mb connection to the USA, NL, Germany or any other country outside of Thailand. Even to Singapore, the next closest hop. Try some real speed tests here to different servers and post your results. http://testmy.net I send x amount of data in x amount of minutes. Why would I want a speed test? I download x amount of data in x amount of minutes. Why would I want a speed test? I get 15/1 24/7 (mostly) 365. I don't care if you say I cannot and I don't care if I think I cannot because that is what I get. Fair enough. Why not backup your results by showing us what you get with a real online speed-test? I'm sure people would be interested to know. What you are saying is misleading to other people, there is no way you have a 15Mb connection to the USA and Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leola74 Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 I say again... You said "My international gateway is a solid 15 down and 1"It is not possible to have a 15Mb connection to the USA, NL, Germany or any other country outside of Thailand. Even to Singapore, the next closest hop. Try some real speed tests here to different servers and post your results. http://testmy.net I send x amount of data in x amount of minutes. Why would I want a speed test? I download x amount of data in x amount of minutes. Why would I want a speed test? I get 15/1 24/7 (mostly) 365. I don't care if you say I cannot and I don't care if I think I cannot because that is what I get. Fair enough. Why not backup your results by showing us what you get with a real online speed-test? I'm sure people would be interested to know. What you are saying is misleading to other people, there is no way you have a 15Mb connection to the USA and Europe. And ping times to NY as well, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Fair enough. Why not backup your results by showing us what you get with a real online speed-test? I'm sure people would be interested to know. What you are saying is misleading to other people, there is no way you have a 15Mb connection to the USA and Europe. Ho hum, shut down all my data transfer and take a screenshot in order to prove a point..... Nah. I get 15/1 and don't care outside of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 OK... you're the expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Testing Dallas, TX US Download :: 5.3 Mbps 668 kB/s Upload :: 445 Kbps 56 kB/s Testing San Jose, CA US Download :: 5.9 Mbps 737 kB/s Upload :: 417 Kbps 52 kB/s .PS: The previous tests were to Dallas Texas, as it was set as the default location from the link you gave me, it wasn't Singapore Edited June 17, 2013 by Rooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 That's not bad Rooo. You're TOT fiber up there aren't you? 20Mb/3Mb package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 That's not bad Rooo. You're TOT fiber up there aren't you? 20Mb/3Mb package? Yes, but as you can see it varied considerably from earlier tests, which I mentioned in the edit to my previous post, were also to Dallas Texas & not Singapore.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 OK... you're the expert. Expert no. I did build my first computer at the age of 14 around a Motorola 6809 The Motorola 6809 ("sixty-eight-oh-nine") is an 8-bit (with some 16-bit features) microprocessor CPU from Motorola, designed by Terry Ritter and Joel Boney and introduced 1978. It was a major advance over both its predecessor, the Motorola 6800, and the related MOS Technology 6502. [...] Among the significant enhancements introduced in the 6809 were the use of two 8-bit accumulators (A and B, which could be combined into a single 16-bit register, D), two 16-bit index registers (X, Y) and two 16-bit stack pointers. The index and stack registers allowed very advanced addressing modes. Program counter relative addressing allowed for the easy creation of position-independent code, while a user stack pointer (U) facilitated the creation of reentrant code. The 6809 was the first microprocessor able to use fully position-independent code without the use of programming tricks. By the time I was 16 I could program in half a dozen deferent languages though machine code was and still is my passion. I don't write much code these days but when I do I talk directly to the processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 OK... you're the expert. Expert no. I did build my first computer at the age of 14 around a Motorola 6809 The Motorola 6809 ("sixty-eight-oh-nine") is an 8-bit (with some 16-bit features) microprocessor CPU from Motorola, designed by Terry Ritter and Joel Boney and introduced 1978. It was a major advance over both its predecessor, the Motorola 6800, and the related MOS Technology 6502. [...] Among the significant enhancements introduced in the 6809 were the use of two 8-bit accumulators (A and B, which could be combined into a single 16-bit register, D), two 16-bit index registers (X, Y) and two 16-bit stack pointers. The index and stack registers allowed very advanced addressing modes. Program counter relative addressing allowed for the easy creation of position-independent code, while a user stack pointer (U) facilitated the creation of reentrant code. The 6809 was the first microprocessor able to use fully position-independent code without the use of programming tricks. By the time I was 16 I could program in half a dozen deferent languages though machine code was and still is my passion. I don't write much code these days but when I do I talk directly to the processor. Wow. That's amazing. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocrosser Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Ais have just started there new quicker 3G service today and its very quick indeed.using it on my i pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leola74 Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 OK, so it looks like getting 4 Mps to US will remain a dream. So far I was hoping that I would be able to get the same speed to US as from home in Germany (i.e. 4Mps), then I could have been sure that it's sufficient for working. I guess I have to find out whether ~2Mps would be sufficient for working, since that's the best speed I can expect. Need to try to simulate that on my PC at home ... So in case I can't find a house with fibre ... what about the MiFi solution (thaismileconnect, for example)? * Anyone have experience with this in Samui? Speed? * What about other providers? Anyone who offers a "true" flat? Most will throttle you after 5GB or so. But the "true" flat with thaismileconnect is 150 Baht per day, very expensive! * As a farang who's only a tourist, can I even get a contract for 3 months with a MiFi provider? Or are these usually annual contracts? And you need to be a resident to sign up? Thanks! Sorry guys, can I just move my questions above to the top again? Any feedback on thaismileconnect and other MiFi providers is appreciated! Also, anyone's measured ping times to NY are highly appreciated! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sorry guys, can I just move my questions above to the top again? Any feedback on thaismileconnect and other MiFi providers is appreciated! Also, anyone's measured ping times to NY are highly appreciated! Thanks We are trying to see which provider is best for your needs, we haven't gone off topic. Here is another test to the States using TOT , telling me : 5 minute server load average server load optimal right now.Whatever that means. Testing Washington D.C. | Multi | Server Selection 9.47 Mbps | 0.85 Mbps | Load 1.49 This is via TOT fibre optic. Good luck with other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Edited June 17, 2013 by Neilly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user786895 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) My results; I live near Laem Set (Samui Orchid Resort/Butterfly Farm/Tiger zoo): TEST_DATE TIME_ZONE DOWNLOAD_MEGABITS UPLOAD_MEGABITS LATENCY_MS SERVER_NAME 08.12.2012 4:39 PM ICT 6.38 1.58 27 Bangkok 09.12.2012 10:45 AM ICT 3.55 1.24 19 Bangkok 09.12.2012 10:53 AM ICT 11.06 1.98 23 Bangkok 17.02.2013 3:11 PM ICT 20.35 1.97 17 Bangkok 17.02.2013 3:14 PM ICT 19.99 2.02 27 Bangkok 27.04.2013 11:18 PM ICT 21.53 3.12 14 Bangkok 28.04.2013 8:58 PM ICT 20.63 2.98 15 Bangkok 05.05.2013 3:37 PM ICT 20.9 3.22 10 Bangkok 05.05.2013 3:37 PM ICT 19.77 3.05 10 Bangkok 21.05.2013 9:22 AM ICT 20.31 3.12 15 Bangkok 23.05.2013 2:47 PM ICT 20.12 3.12 10 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:36 PM ICT 21.41 3.09 22 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:37 PM ICT 20.22 3.02 24 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:40 PM ICT 25.16 3.03 24 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:46 PM ICT 19.67 3.02 14 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:49 PM ICT 19.82 2.99 14 Bangkok 18.06.2013 3:02 PM ICT 25.51 2.84 22 Bangkok Edited June 18, 2013 by NickNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leola74 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 My results; I live near Laem Set (Samui Orchid Resort/Butterfly Farm/Tiger zoo): TEST_DATE TIME_ZONE DOWNLOAD_MEGABITS UPLOAD_MEGABITS LATENCY_MS SERVER_NAME 08.12.2012 4:39 PM ICT 6.38 1.58 27 Bangkok 09.12.2012 10:45 AM ICT 3.55 1.24 19 Bangkok 09.12.2012 10:53 AM ICT 11.06 1.98 23 Bangkok 17.02.2013 3:11 PM ICT 20.35 1.97 17 Bangkok 17.02.2013 3:14 PM ICT 19.99 2.02 27 Bangkok 27.04.2013 11:18 PM ICT 21.53 3.12 14 Bangkok 28.04.2013 8:58 PM ICT 20.63 2.98 15 Bangkok 05.05.2013 3:37 PM ICT 20.9 3.22 10 Bangkok 05.05.2013 3:37 PM ICT 19.77 3.05 10 Bangkok 21.05.2013 9:22 AM ICT 20.31 3.12 15 Bangkok 23.05.2013 2:47 PM ICT 20.12 3.12 10 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:36 PM ICT 21.41 3.09 22 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:37 PM ICT 20.22 3.02 24 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:40 PM ICT 25.16 3.03 24 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:46 PM ICT 19.67 3.02 14 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:49 PM ICT 19.82 2.99 14 Bangkok 18.06.2013 3:02 PM ICT 25.51 2.84 22 Bangkok Very nice! Can you do this to a server in NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user786895 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) My results; I live near Laem Set (Samui Orchid Resort/Butterfly Farm/Tiger zoo): TEST_DATE TIME_ZONE DOWNLOAD_MEGABITS UPLOAD_MEGABITS LATENCY_MS SERVER_NAME 08.12.2012 4:39 PM ICT 6.38 1.58 27 Bangkok 09.12.2012 10:45 AM ICT 3.55 1.24 19 Bangkok 09.12.2012 10:53 AM ICT 11.06 1.98 23 Bangkok 17.02.2013 3:11 PM ICT 20.35 1.97 17 Bangkok 17.02.2013 3:14 PM ICT 19.99 2.02 27 Bangkok 27.04.2013 11:18 PM ICT 21.53 3.12 14 Bangkok 28.04.2013 8:58 PM ICT 20.63 2.98 15 Bangkok 05.05.2013 3:37 PM ICT 20.9 3.22 10 Bangkok 05.05.2013 3:37 PM ICT 19.77 3.05 10 Bangkok 21.05.2013 9:22 AM ICT 20.31 3.12 15 Bangkok 23.05.2013 2:47 PM ICT 20.12 3.12 10 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:36 PM ICT 21.41 3.09 22 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:37 PM ICT 20.22 3.02 24 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:40 PM ICT 25.16 3.03 24 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:46 PM ICT 19.67 3.02 14 Bangkok 15.06.2013 4:49 PM ICT 19.82 2.99 14 Bangkok 18.06.2013 3:02 PM ICT 25.51 2.84 22 Bangkok Very nice! Can you do this to a server in NY? xxxxxxxx PM ICT 101.109.253.251 12.75 Mb/s 2.77 Mb/s 300 ms New York City, NY ~ 13850 km xx.06.2013 3:19 PM ICT 101.109.253.251 9.66 Mb/s 2.58 Mb/s 298 ms New York City, NY ~ 138 xx2013 3:16 PM ICT 101.109.253.251 1.77 Mb/s 0.57 Mb/s 303 ms Burlington, VT ~ 13450 km xxxx.2013 3:16 PM ICT 101.109.253.251 2.02 Mb/s 0.66 Mb/s 316 ms Burlington, VT ~ 13450 km Edited June 18, 2013 by Rooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Nick - you've just posted your IP address of your unsecured TOT modem. I've just sent you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusG Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I couldn't guess his login & password. But I'd guess you know Mr Angry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I couldn't guess his login & password. But I'd guess you know Mr Angry. You mean you tried to access a system without consent?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leola74 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) 18.06.2013 3:20 PM ICT xxxxxxxxxx 12.75 Mb/s 2.77 Mb/s 300 ms New York City, NY ~ 13850 km 18.06.2013 3:19 PM ICT xxxxxxxxxx 9.66 Mb/s 2.58 Mb/s 298 ms New York City, NY ~ 138 So here's a (stupid) question for the uninitiated (me): With a 300ms ping time, would I expect a minimum delay of 0.3 seconds to my PC in New York. So for example, if I type an email on my PC in NY from Samui, the letters would show up on the screen at least 0.3 seconds after I hit the keyboard? That seems like quite a lag, even in the best of scenarios.... Edited July 19, 2013 by Rooo IP adress removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 300ms is about the standard ping time to the USA. Your remote desktop won't be quick, it will be OK, you'll just have to manage as it is. Just make sure you have it set to the lowest experience setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leola74 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 300ms is about the standard ping time to the USA. Your remote desktop won't be quick, it will be OK, you'll just have to manage as it is. Just make sure you have it set to the lowest experience setting. But is my example with typing an email approximately correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 300ms is about the standard ping time to the USA. Your remote desktop won't be quick, it will be OK, you'll just have to manage as it is. Just make sure you have it set to the lowest experience setting. But is my example with typing an email approximately correct? Actually that's the time when your PC in the US figures out that you have pressed a key. Add download time to refresh your screen in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Poorsucker is correct. Screen refresh is a big thing and especially what you have open on the screen. For example if you opened your internet browser on the remote machine, you could be in for a long wait... As it would attempt to show everything on the screen over a high latency connection. What are you trying to do exactly? Could you not rent a VPS server in Singapore or an Amazon EC2 instance and do the work on there? We had a customer the other day remote connecting to his desktop in Samui from Russia to view his CCTV system! It was crazy slow. In the end we moved his DVR on to our wireless network and set up access to it, so he could view it through his web browser. A lot quicker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leola74 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 What are you trying to do exactly? Could you not rent a VPS server in Singapore or an Amazon EC2 instance and do the work on there? I work for a big company based in NY. They're not going to do anything for me other than let me use remote desktop to my PC in the NY office. Heck, I'm glad they're willing to let me work from Samui for a couple of months..! In terms of what I will do on that machine, it's writing some code in a (mildly) graphics-based editor (Matlab, to be precise), and using Excel (with graphics). I currently work remotely from Germany, logging on to that same PC in NY, with ping times ~220ms and download speed ~4Mbps. So I know what a lag feels like, but I don't yet know what a 300ms lag feels like I guess it will be doable but not great ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 What are you trying to do exactly? Could you not rent a VPS server in Singapore or an Amazon EC2 instance and do the work on there? I work for a big company based in NY. They're not going to do anything for me other than let me use remote desktop to my PC in the NY office. Heck, I'm glad they're willing to let me work from Samui for a couple of months..! In terms of what I will do on that machine, it's writing some code in a (mildly) graphics-based editor (Matlab, to be precise), and using Excel (with graphics). I currently work remotely from Germany, logging on to that same PC in NY, with ping times ~220ms and download speed ~4Mbps. So I know what a lag feels like, but I don't yet know what a 300ms lag feels like I guess it will be doable but not great ... If you are coding why not code locally and upload when finished. When I needed to access a database remotely I designed an object on my remote computer that handled all requests from remote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I agree with PoorSucker. You really need to be able to work locally on your machine, then upload (by VPN) your work/files to your office network/server. I couldn't image trying to use Word or Excel on a desktop PC via RDP on a 300ms connection. It's bad enough working on local servers here in Thailand at 60ms... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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