webfact Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Mass tourism market blamed for degradation of PhuketPhuket GazettePHUKET: -- The Senate Standing Committee on Tourism yesterday highlighted a series of issues plaguing Phuket due to the rapid development of the province into a major center for mass tourism in Thailand.“The growth of the tourism industry in Phuket is the source of many problems at its natural tourist attractions. Land and beach encroachment, as well as air and water pollution, are all serious concerns that affect the tourism image of the island,” Senate Standing Committee on Tourism 2nd Vice-Chairman Pichit Kuandachakupt said.Gen Pichit went on to point out that vendors harassing and taking advantage of tourists, as well as excessive numbers of beach chairs and umbrellas were also having a negative impact on tourists’ experiences.Nonetheless, Gen Pichit spoke highly of the province as a whole.“Phuket has many beautiful natural tourist attractions. It is like a dream destination for both domestic and foreign tourists. Every year it generates a great deal of revenue for Thailand,” said Gen Pichit.The need to maintain and improve the experience offered to tourists in the province was why the Senate Standing Committee on Tourism dubbed their seminar “Organize Phuket tourist attractions for a sustainable tourism industry”.The seminar was designed to gather invested parties, government agencies and members of the private sector to barnstorm solutions to the plethora of issues highlighted by the committee, explained Phuket Senator Tunyaratt Achariyachai.“We need to find a way to maintain a clean and beautiful marine environment to support the activities and main attractions for tourists visiting Phuket,” Gen Pichit said.In an effort to reduce pressure on the marine environment and the island as a whole, Tourism and Sports Minister Somsak Pureesrisak said that the government needed to shift its tourism goals.“The current government policies have been focusing on enhancing tourism by making tourist attractions more popular. However, that needs to change. Thailand needs to promote some areas, such as Phuket, for high-end tourism instead,” he said.The Tourism Minister went on to point out that the dramatic increase in the number of tourists over the years, reaching nearly 10 million last year, was putting pressure on the island, which does not have adequate facilities and tourist services to provide for the rapidly growing number of visitors.The Minister rattled off a list of issues caused by the increase in numbers, which included inadequate public utilities; traffic congestion in urban areas; over development; beach encroachment; wastewater issues; tourist security issues; inadequate guides and difficulties in uniting concerned parties.Nonetheless, the Mr Somsak was sure that solutions could be implemented to create a sustainable tourism industry on Phuket. Source: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket_news/2013/Mass-tourism-market-blamed-for-degradation-of-Phuket-21327.html-- Phuket Gazette 2013-06-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eezergood Posted June 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2013 If only the farang would come here, drop off a few thousand Baht then go back home!! Am waiting for the blame to be aimed directly at us 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted June 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2013 If they upheld and enforced existing laws, most of this wouldn't be an issue . . . stop taking backhanders . . . problem solved. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cannonball Posted June 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2013 Getting the various mafias under control would do more to promote tourism in Phuket than anything they are trying to do now. CB 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) "The Minister rattled off a list of issues caused by the increase in numbers, which included inadequate public utilities; traffic congestion in urban areas; over development; beach encroachment; wastewater issues; tourist security issues; inadequate guides and difficulties in uniting concerned parties." All true IMO. But at the same time TAT will be proudly presenting higher tourist numbers. Edited June 14, 2013 by stevenl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 they let the same happen to patts.back in the 80's it was great,but its make make and make,went back to phuket 2008 never again the hasle from the centara hotel karon from taxi and tuk tuk drivers,i wonder what samui is like that was the same in the 80's just great but havnt been back,as long as everyone is on the make or take nothing will change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 This like saying we didn't get enough party hats for the kids birthday party. You were the ones advertising for them to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stingray Posted June 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2013 Hi end tourism don't go to Phuket. They go to Miami, Caribean island, Hawaii, etc. High end tourists don'deal and haggeling with tuk tuk drivers. In Hawaii they can sit for 20$ in a Stretch Limo, from air port to Waikiki. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted June 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2013 They had their chance after the tsunami to change the face of tourism in Phuket. But the uncontrolled development, often with the help of corrupt officials, has continued unabated ever since and shows no sign of slowing down. There are only a certain number of high-end travellers and there are plenty of resorts catering for them around Phuket. With the TAT targets in place we'll only see more and more tourists, probably mostly package tourists from Russia and Asia, and the best way to improve the island is to spend some money and use some out of the box thinking to implement measures to rectify the problems outlined above. Quite simply, the blame for Phuket's deterioration lies predominantly with the politicians and they are the only ones able to sort it out. So we all know what's going to happen! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuddyPinkham Posted June 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2013 They seemed to forget the TUK TUK Mafia, Sea-Doo Mafia, tourist safety (how many innocent people were mugged and killed there last year?). Talk is cheap! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Hi end tourism don't go to Phuket. They go to Miami, Caribean island, Hawaii, etc. High end tourists don'deal and haggeling with tuk tuk drivers. In Hawaii they can sit for 20$ in a Stretch Limo, from air port to Waikiki. Yes they do, quite a few high end resorts on the island. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 In general, it seems to me they have allowed Phuket to be degraded to the point that it is now a "low end" tourist destination, and low end tourist destinations attract low end tourists. What has surprised me, is the speed at which it has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 In general, it seems to me they have allowed Phuket to be degraded to the point that it is now a "low end" tourist destination, and low end tourist destinations attract low end tourists. What has surprised me, is the speed at which it has happened. Agree about the low end' tourists. Not agree about the speed. Taken 20 years to get here. And much can be blamed on lack of investment in infrastructure and lack of good policing of tourist concerns - scams and the like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomunynohuny Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 They seemed to forget the TUK TUK Mafia, Sea-Doo Mafia, tourist safety (how many innocent people were mugged and killed there last year?). Talk is cheap! Actually read the article. It's not the tourists as such being blamed. And they haven't forgotten tourist safety: "The Minister rattled off a list of issues caused by the increase in numbers, which included inadequate public utilities; traffic congestion in urban areas; over development; beach encroachment; wastewater issues; tourist security issues; inadequate guides and difficulties in uniting concerned parties." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post clockman Posted June 14, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2013 Just wait till Myanmar is geared up, Phuket will be history! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) In general, it seems to me they have allowed Phuket to be degraded to the point that it is now a "low end" tourist destination, and low end tourist destinations attract low end tourists. What has surprised me, is the speed at which it has happened. Agree about the low end' tourists. Not agree about the speed. Taken 20 years to get here. And much can be blamed on lack of investment in infrastructure and lack of good policing of tourist concerns - scams and the like. I understand what you are saying in regards to the 20 year figure. I would suggest that tourism has become more low end here within the last 3 to 4 years, and it's the speed of degradation in those recent years that has surprised me. Currently, that degradation has gained so much momentum, I can't see it being stopped. It has changed the demographics of the tourists coming here. Even looking at your 20 year figure, it seems so short when you start talking about tourism to places like London, Rome and Paris. Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing a tropical island in Asia to capital cities in Europe. Just highlighting how short 20 years is in relation to global tourism. How do you lose a major market, like the Europeans, to the Chinese and Russians, in such a short time???? The lower Phuket goes, the lower the Chinese and Russian tourists will be. I suspect, that will speed up significantly in the near future, whilst continuing to lose whatlittle European market is left here. We know many Thai's got rich here, over this 20 year period, but at what cost? Edited June 14, 2013 by NamKangMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Hi end tourism don't go to Phuket. They go to Miami, Caribean island, Hawaii, etc. High end tourists don'deal and haggeling with tuk tuk drivers. In Hawaii they can sit for 20$ in a Stretch Limo, from air port to Waikiki. Yes they do, quite a few high end resorts on the island. Actually quite a few very exclusive resorts here - Aman properties for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Hi end tourism don't go to Phuket. They go to Miami, Caribean island, Hawaii, etc. High end tourists don'deal and haggeling with tuk tuk drivers. In Hawaii they can sit for 20$ in a Stretch Limo, from air port to Waikiki. Yes they do, quite a few high end resorts on the island. I agree, there are some high end resorts here, but the people who go to them, rarely venture outside of the resort itself, because they know the BS that is awaiting them outside the front gate. All the money is spent inside the resort. Hardly good for local businesses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsuma Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Clue: make a work permit in Phuket for all Thais, then make "oiluce mafia" check here and there, no lPermit or no Job = expulsion & very heavy fine say 10,000 Bahts. This will remove a LOTS of unusefull touts and thieves out of the island. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Main problems are corruption and lack of sustainable development. Simple is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) Hi end tourism don't go to Phuket. They go to Miami, Caribean island, Hawaii, etc. High end tourists don'deal and haggeling with tuk tuk drivers. In Hawaii they can sit for 20$ in a Stretch Limo, from air port to Waikiki. Yes they do, quite a few high end resorts on the island. Actually quite a few very exclusive resorts here - Aman properties for example Yes, that's what I said (or tried to see, on rereading I see that my comment could be interpreted differently). Edited June 14, 2013 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSabai Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I understand what you are saying in regards to the 20 year figure. I would suggest that tourism has become more low end here within the last 3 to 4 years, and it's the speed of degradation in those recent years that has surprised me. Currently, that degradation has gained so much momentum, I can't see it being stopped. It has changed the demographics of the tourists coming here. Even looking at your 20 year figure, it seems so short when you start talking about tourism to places like London, Rome and Paris. Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing a tropical island in Asia to capital cities in Europe. Just highlighting how short 20 years is in relation to global tourism. How do you lose a major market, like the Europeans, to the Chinese and Russians, in such a short time???? The lower Phuket goes, the lower the Chinese and Russian tourists will be. I suspect, that will speed up significantly in the near future, whilst continuing to lose whatlittle European market is left here. We know many Thai's got rich here, over this 20 year period, but at what cost? Some "major market" European countries are having their financial difficulties now. Add reduced exchange rates to that, and Phuket is no longer a cheap place to holiday. Lots of Chinese and Russian tourists come on package tours which are affordable to them. Euros are more experienced and independent travelers. I don't think Phuket lost that market (i.e. gave up on them) as much so as that market just finds cheaper holiday destinations. At least for the time being. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Businessman Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 While the tourists may be the catalyst, not one problem listed was/is not caused directly by certain Thais,their greed, corruption and lawlessness. While it seems the good general is not placing blame other than on the growth of tourism, I wish he or someone would come right out and say just what I said. You cannot solve a problem until you identify it's root cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I understand what you are saying in regards to the 20 year figure. I would suggest that tourism has become more low end here within the last 3 to 4 years, and it's the speed of degradation in those recent years that has surprised me. Currently, that degradation has gained so much momentum, I can't see it being stopped. It has changed the demographics of the tourists coming here. Even looking at your 20 year figure, it seems so short when you start talking about tourism to places like London, Rome and Paris. Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing a tropical island in Asia to capital cities in Europe. Just highlighting how short 20 years is in relation to global tourism. How do you lose a major market, like the Europeans, to the Chinese and Russians, in such a short time???? The lower Phuket goes, the lower the Chinese and Russian tourists will be. I suspect, that will speed up significantly in the near future, whilst continuing to lose whatlittle European market is left here. We know many Thai's got rich here, over this 20 year period, but at what cost? Some "major market" European countries are having their financial difficulties now. Add reduced exchange rates to that, and Phuket is no longer a cheap place to holiday. Lots of Chinese and Russian tourists come on package tours which are affordable to them. Euros are more experienced and independent travelers. I don't think Phuket lost that market (i.e. gave up on them) as much so as that market just finds cheaper holiday destinations. At least for the time being. Sure, the financial woes of Europe, and the exchange rate, would effect some of the holiday market. Hua Hin is attracting a lot of Europeans now - I guess they are the ones that Phuket used to have, lost, and now want back. :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeybkk Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 well, why don't you take the billions in revenue you get from 24, 000,000 million tourists coming to Thailand and invest it in infrastructure on a local, provincial and national level instead of putting it in your pockets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmebike Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 'The growth of the tourism industry in Phuket is the source of many problems' Noooooooo, not being able to handle many tourists is the real problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unanimosity Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) If only the farang would come here, drop off a few thousand Baht then go back home!! Am waiting for the blame to be aimed directly at us That is just not going to work. Pesky tourists are all to blame for the Tuk Tuk and Taxi and Jet Ski issues and for all of the encroachment, and for the total lack of planning, and for the faulty wiring electrocuting people, and for all the other problems. It all falls on the shoulders of those insensitive tourists coming to Phuket. If the tourists had any class or empathy for Thainess, they would stay home and just wire their money to Phuket. Edited June 14, 2013 by unanimosity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostmebike Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) If only the farang would come here, drop off a few thousand Baht then go back home!! Am waiting for the blame to be aimed directly at us That is just not going to work. Pesky tourists are all to blame for the Tuk Tuk and Taxi and Jet Ski issues and for all of the encroachment, and for the total lack of planning, and for the faulty wiring electrocuting people, and for all the other problems. It all falls on the shoulders of those insensitive tourists coming to Phuket. If the tourists had any class or empathy for Thainess, they would stay home and just wire their money to Phuket. Damn tourists, they're just like vermin Edited June 14, 2013 by lostmebike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius1935 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I took a party of Australians from Phuket to the Simillan Islands and around Phang Na Bay, last February by yacht. They won't be coming back to Phuket because of: 1. Exorbitant National park fees at both places. Up to ฿400 per person per day, on top of their holiday costs. 2. Dreadful pollution on every beach we stopped at over a two week period 3. A constant stream of plastic waste in a direct line, returning from Simillan islands. Not just on the surface but as deep down as one could see. 4. Unpleasant, mafia like checks that they had paid the NP fee by rude thugs. 5. Far too many tourists at the normal beauty spots like Koh Hong and other islands. From now on we will only consider cruising in Burmese and Vietnamese waters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius1935 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 If only the farang would come here, drop off a few thousand Baht then go back home!! Am waiting for the blame to be aimed directly at us That is just not going to work. Pesky tourists are all to blame for the Tuk Tuk and Taxi and Jet Ski issues and for all of the encroachment, and for the total lack of planning, and for the faulty wiring electrocuting people, and for all the other problems. It all falls on the shoulders of those insensitive tourists coming to Phuket. If the tourists had any class or empathy for Thainess, they would stay home and just wire their money to Phuket. And when walking back to their hotel in Kata they wouldn't hold onto their handbag and get stabbed in the heart. They would just give their money away so that the would be murderer could pay his ฿200 bar bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now