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Rain gutter systems: Choices, recommendations, dos and don'ts

Morakot

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Morakot Platinum Member

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I am in the process of replacing the rain gutters on a building. My technician recommend stainless steel.

I am interested in durability. What are reasonable alternatives to stainless steel? What is common/ readily available in Thailand? What can I expect to pay per metre?

Would be glad to hear your opinions, ideas, and tips!

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meatboy Ruby Member

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we have had windsor fitted over 3yrs now still looks as good as when new,checked the price per mtr.at home mart then had a quote from a fitter 500bht.suplied and fitted,a job well done.

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Morakot Platinum Member

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1000bht per metre for stainless steel, I heard someone quoting.

Meatboy this is a PVC system, isn't it? How durable is PVC, anyone?

Galvanised steel might not last more than ten year, people say. Is this true, anyone?

kamalabob2 Gold Member

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There are several different grades of stainless steel rain gutters sold and installed in Thailand. Often with a painted PVC downspouts due to cost. Our original rain gutter sub contractor used a lame "village system" with a flame to connect each section of stainless steel rain gutter. He did not use a proper welding device. Hence most every connection went bad after one year. After several attempts to "glue" the sections to prevent leaks in the joints we found a decent silver tape that has lasted for one full rainy season. So it is not only the gauge and quality of the stainless steel, but how they connect each section that will play a role in your satisfaction. Slope, that is another issue. You must already know what size of gutter works for your size of roof. Galvanized will not far well. It is also cleaning out the gutters at least once a year, perhaps more here, as no matter what your gutters are made from the crap deposited in a rain gutter will eat away at your PVC, galvanized, ABS, stainless steel or copper rain gutters. I've seen some Windsor rain gutter system that a specific Windsor franchise dealer in Korat installed that looked excellent.

doglover Advanced Member

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A recently had galvanized gutters installed on an outbuilding and they used "village brazing system" kamalabob2 describes. I did not realize that this method will not last long, or perhaps it works better with galvanized steel than stainless?

Thought about also installing galvanized on the main house but I think it cheapens the appearance of a nice house. So I thought I would install Windsor PVC (after we get around to properly fitting some more smartwood eave so the birds cannot enter).

But recently I spotted a house that I believe has used galvanized steel and had it painted. It looks really good and I may do the same. Not sure how long the paint would stay put though. Any thoughts?

Morakot Platinum Member

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But recently I spotted a house that I believe has used galvanized steel and had it painted. It looks really good and I may do the same. Not sure how long the paint would stay put though. Any thoughts?

I don't know how much the paint would extend to the duration of your galvanised gutters, but I would guess you need to paint both the inside and the outside to make a difference.

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My pick would be extruded AL for custom fit seamless gutter. But, I've never seen in Thailand. Oh well.

Look no further, your import products are here!

http://www.englertgutters.com/gutters/

Any idea as to price per meter (including installation)?

Not yet; price available only on request, which makes me think it might be more than stainless steel for this import product.

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But recently I spotted a house that I believe has used galvanized steel and had it painted. It looks really good and I may do the same. Not sure how long the paint would stay put though. Any thoughts?

I don't know how much the paint would extend to the duration of your galvanised gutters, but I would guess you need to paint both the inside and the outside to make a difference.

That's what we did, correct primer and 'industrial' lacquer inside and out. It remains to see how long they actually last.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/481794-housebuilding-thread/?p=6385501

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There are several different grades of stainless steel rain gutters sold and installed in Thailand. Often with a painted PVC downspouts due to cost. Our original rain gutter sub contractor used a lame "village system" with a flame to connect each section of stainless steel rain gutter. He did not use a proper welding device. Hence most every connection went bad after one year. After several attempts to "glue" the sections to prevent leaks in the joints we found a decent silver tape that has lasted for one full rainy season. So it is not only the gauge and quality of the stainless steel, but how they connect each section that will play a role in your satisfaction. Slope, that is another issue. You must already know what size of gutter works for your size of roof. Galvanized will not far well. It is also cleaning out the gutters at least once a year, perhaps more here, as no matter what your gutters are made from the crap deposited in a rain gutter will eat away at your PVC, galvanized, ABS, stainless steel or copper rain gutters. I've seen some Windsor rain gutter system that a specific Windsor franchise dealer in Korat installed that looked excellent.

might have been the same bloke that fitted ours.[pvc]in korat.
doglover Advanced Member

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But recently I spotted a house that I believe has used galvanized steel and had it painted. It looks really good and I may do the same. Not sure how long the paint would stay put though. Any thoughts?

I don't know how much the paint would extend to the duration of your galvanised gutters, but I would guess you need to paint both the inside and the outside to make a difference.

That's what we did, correct primer and 'industrial' lacquer inside and out. It remains to see how long they actually last.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/481794-housebuilding-thread/?p=6385501

That's what I'm talking about. Man that's looks sharp! Especially with your roof style.

I'm not a painter. Was it brushed or sprayed?

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That's what I'm talking about. Man that's looks sharp! Especially with your roof style.

I'm not a painter. Was it brushed or sprayed?

Mrs Gutter used one of those mini-rollers (about 1" diameter and 3" long), tidied up with a brush.

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Good quality galvanised gutters (Bluescope steel) should only cost you 200-250 Baht per meter fitted. Even if they only last 10-15 years, it's hard to make a case for anything else at 4x or more the price.

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But recently I spotted a house that I believe has used galvanized steel and had it painted. It looks really good and I may do the same. Not sure how long the paint would stay put though. Any thoughts?

I don't know how much the paint would extend to the duration of your galvanised gutters, but I would guess you need to paint both the inside and the outside to make a difference.

That's what we did, correct primer and 'industrial' lacquer inside and out. It remains to see how long they actually last.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/481794-housebuilding-thread/?p=6385501

Have done the exact same way several times. Our oldest house with that style of guttering is now 13 years old, and only one section of it (that gets full of leaves) is due for replacement.

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Good quality galvanised gutters (Bluescope steel) should only cost you 200-250 Baht per meter fitted. Even if they only last 10-15 years, it's hard to make a case for anything else at 4x or more the price.

we were offered this and the stainless steel,200bht and 900bht a mtr.i see the 2 on houses by me i know which one i would have and its not the first.
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Good quality galvanised gutters (Bluescope steel) should only cost you 200-250 Baht per meter fitted. Even if they only last 10-15 years, it's hard to make a case for anything else at 4x or more the price.

we were offered this and the stainless steel,200bht and 900bht a mtr.i see the 2 on houses by me i know which one i would have and its not the first.

Well who knows what it is once painted? :)

Pib Star Member

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Just go get some large diameter blue PVC pipe, around 6 inches in diameter, cut it in half "long ways" and then you have two pieces of gutter that won't rust, lasts forever. Repeat procedure until you have enough gutter to go around the house...the longer the pipe the less joints you have to glue together. Use long screws to secure the pipe to the roof edge. Also use PVC pipe for downspouts. My mother-in-law's neighbor recently did this. I've seen other houses out in the provinces do this to partially put gutters around the house/just put it on problem spots...they don't even joint the half pieces with glue as they just over lap one pipe half onto the other with a slight slant of the entire pipe section....kinda like how concrete roof shingles overlap each other. PVC pipe used as gutter may not be aesthetically appealing to most, but it's definitely practical and long lasting.

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the quote i just received from the Winsor dealer in Udon was 650 baht per metre for pvc in brown .... sounds expensive any comments on the per metre rate ? i want to buy the materials and install myself as its a no brainer to do ....

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kannot Platinum Member

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I used Windsor did it myself its not hard 3m length is about 500 baht and brackets 38baht each at 60cm spacings works out at 217 baht a metre, there are down pipes and other bits needed but for the actual gutter and brackets thats it.

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the quote i just received from the Winsor dealer in Udon was 650 baht per metre for pvc in brown .... sounds expensive any comments on the per metre rate ? i want to buy the materials and install myself as its a no brainer to do ....

see my post above hes ripping you off, buy the stuff yourself Thai Watsadu and other suppliers

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