webfact Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Nattawut Speaks Out On Photo Showing Him In 'Feudal' MannerBANGKOK: -- Deputy Minister of Commerce and prominent Redshirt leader Nattawut Saikuea hits back at critics who accuse him of treating his subordinates like feudal slaves after a photo of 2 officials kneeling down next to him in a meeting room surfaced in social network.The photo is said to originate from Mr. Sirichok "Wallpaper" Sopa, an MP of the opposition Democrat Party, who posted it on his Facebook account, with a caption that reads "Ammart?"Ammart means feudalistic rulers, and is a phrase adopted by the Redshirts to attack whom they saw as the oppressive upper class elite. Another variation of the term is Ammartayatippatai or Ammartocracy.Mr. Sirichok, nicknamed "Wallpaper" by the media for his regular appearance behind Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajeeva in numerous press conferences, seemed to suggest that Mr. Nattawut renegades on his Redshirts agenda.The photo was widely shared by anti-government critics.Later, Mr. Nattawut wrote on his Facebook that the photo was taken yesterday at the Ministry of Commerce while he waited for the Minister of Commerce to attend a meeting. He said the 2 officials briefly went on their knees to tell him about the meeting procedure. Mr. Nattawut added that the encounter was longer than a minute.Full story: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNM01qYzJOVEUyTmc9PQ==-- KHAOSOD English 2013-07-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Is this not a common aspect of Thai culture with subordinates showing deference, sometime excessively, to senior people. i have deliberately avoided using the word " superior ' because I detest it and how it's used in respect of people, I am superior to no one and no one is superior to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Four legs good. 2 legs better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SlideRiceFC Posted July 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) If "Ammart?" is all the caption said it could be a snide joke. If he is insinuating that this is how Nattawut often receives or insists his subordinates act then I could see the need for something more to be said. But other than that I just see two people who don't seem to have seats made available to them being polite by avoiding "talking down" to a senior so as much as I have distaste for the man I don't see the need for him to explain anything. Edited July 3, 2013 by SlideRiceFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OzMick Posted July 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2013 At least they are not under the table. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Very common actions in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 No matter the reason why one way or the other it is a good photo op., for the opposition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted July 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2013 "While you're down there, girls........" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 At least they are not under the table. That was in the video which can be seen on YouTube later today . . . featuring a katoey, a rich monk, a scary ghost and a big fat funny gay guy . . . oh, and the jealous, psychotic mistress . . . think that covers it all . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OzMick Posted July 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2013 What's with his shirt? Did they run out of horizontal stripes? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 At least they are not under the table. That was in the video which can be seen on YouTube later today . . . featuring a katoey, a rich monk, a scary ghost and a big fat funny gay guy . . . oh, and the jealous, psychotic mistress . . . think that covers it all . . . What about the corrupt politician, civil servant and BIB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 At least they are not under the table. That was in the video which can be seen on YouTube later today . . . featuring a katoey, a rich monk, a scary ghost and a big fat funny gay guy . . . oh, and the jealous, psychotic mistress . . . think that covers it all . . . You missed the dwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huangnon Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 "Feudalistic" is still the best way to describe politics and its players in Thailand, unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post americaninbangkok Posted July 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2013 Resistance is feudal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) So, where are these photos of his big house? Edited July 3, 2013 by OzMick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Docno Posted July 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2013 I wouldn't make too much out of a photo like this taken during a meeting. Just a couple weeks back, I was giving training and I had to go to the back of the room to have a quiet chat with an observing consultant, 20 years my junior, sitting behind a desk. I could have either got her to stand up, bent over her, or squatted next to her... I did the latter because it was easiest for me, put us at eye-level, and was the least disruptive to others in the room. I'm sure if someone had taken a photo of me at that point, they could have put the same sort of spin on it, but it would have been way off the mark. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I wouldn't make too much out of a photo like this taken during a meeting. Just a couple weeks back, I was giving training and I had to go to the back of the room to have a quiet chat with an observing consultant, 20 years my junior, sitting behind a desk. I could have either got her to stand up, bent over her, or squatted next to her... I did the latter because it was easiest for me, put us at eye-level, and was the least disruptive to others in the room. I'm sure if someone had taken a photo of me at that point, they could have put the same sort of spin on it, but it would have been way off the mark. So you are a "leg man"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Was he wearing his Hermes belt again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Ammart will soon be a term only associated with the PTP party and the Red shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Can't Khun Nattawut have his detractors flogged, or beheaded, or something ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gl555 Posted July 3, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2013 I love how these red idiots keep harping about Abhisit 'running away from military service' while ignoring how their cowardly boss runs away from justice. What a bunch of hypocrites. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 What else would you expect in a country where in the schools is taught to crawl over the floor when one higher in rank happens to be in the same room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always18 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 "While you're down there, girls........" ...............beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americaninbangkok Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Was he wearing his Hermes belt again? No... one of the monks had borrowed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 ....I guess the suggestion is.....hypocrisy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Is this not a common aspect of Thai culture with subordinates showing deference, sometime excessively, to senior people. i have deliberately avoided using the word " superior ' because I detest it and how it's used in respect of people, I am superior to no one and no one is superior to me. I beg to differ on this superiority thing. I think I am superior to the Yorkshire ripper and Gareth Bale is superior to me as long as he keeps on knocking the goals in for 'the mighty Spurs'!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Four legs good. 2 legs better! Thank you, Mr Orwell, for that contribution. All Thais are equal, but some are more equal than others.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I wouldn't make too much out of a photo like this taken during a meeting. Just a couple weeks back, I was giving training and I had to go to the back of the room to have a quiet chat with an observing consultant, 20 years my junior, sitting behind a desk. I could have either got her to stand up, bent over her, or squatted next to her... I did the latter because it was easiest for me, put us at eye-level, and was the least disruptive to others in the room. I'm sure if someone had taken a photo of me at that point, they could have put the same sort of spin on it, but it would have been way off the mark. Squatters' rights mate. Don't try that after a som tum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Nattawut to Yingluck: "...and this is exactly why we have to increase our furniture budget! I just happen to know an excellent supplier of office chairs, who is very easy to deal with..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancnx Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Poor old boy, if only he had Bill Clinton's good looks and dazzling personality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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