90 Day Reports if you have a Yellow House Book

[sandrabbit]

But an extension of stay does not require a health certificate and Farang Paul stated he has a multiple entry visa.

If Farang Paul (or his lawyer) applies to a consulate in his home country I believe a health certificate might be required.

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And a police report?

In the UK I believe that is the case, yes.

yes a police report is required, even applying in Thailand I think it's required as well. I got my retirement visa in Rayong and they were quite relaxed. I think the list of items for a retirement is quite extensive if you're applying in the UK, better to get it in Thailand but I think you need an 'o' visa in the first place to apply.

[Time Traveller]

Be grateful that you are not assessed to Thai Taxation which those with PR are and on their worldwide income too. A low profile is what you need to adopt.

You don't know what you're talking about. PR has nothing to do with taxation

[dotpoom]

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

By making the 90 days report you do not have to provide documental proof of your address such as

yellow book, driving licence, or an embassy confirmation, just write your address on the 90 days reporting

form and that is accepted.

I bought my condo here 11 years ago, never bothered putting my name in the "Tabien Ban" (blue book) but I produce it every time I have official business to do and they ask for it. Didn't Soi 5 Immigration put up a notice about 2 years ago making it a requirement when renewing your yearly visa to bring along your Tabien Ban or other proof of residence. I bring mine when making the renewal even though my name is not entered in it. I often think this could be a borrowed blue book as far as they are concerned?

[abrahamzvi]

Be grateful that you are not assessed to Thai Taxation which those with PR are and on their worldwide income too. A low profile is what you need to adopt.

Actually anybody that is in Thailand for more than 180 days of the year is liable for taxes earned from working or rental income.

You are right, but this refers to income from working in Thailand, out of Thailand on behalf of a Thai company as well as any rentals, interest, dividends etc earned in Thailand. Quite frankly when I read various remarks, advices and the likes in this section, I am sometimes surprised and perturbed by some ignorant an incorrect, as well as somewhat bewildering statements

[Time Traveller]

Be grateful that you are not assessed to Thai Taxation which those with PR are and on their worldwide income too. A low profile is what you need to adopt.

Actually anybody that is in Thailand for more than 180 days of the year is liable for taxes earned from working or rental income.

You are right, but this refers to income from working in Thailand, out of Thailand on behalf of a Thai company as well as any rentals, interest, dividends etc earned in Thailand. Quite frankly when I read various remarks, advices and the likes in this section, I am sometimes surprised and perturbed by some ignorant an incorrect, as well as somewhat bewildering statements

I agree, Thailand has a very favorable and simple tax system for individuals, especially for investment income compared with Western countries.

[abrahamzvi]

Because the law specifically states that you have to report every 90 days.

(Only since a few years can you be on a yellow household book).

This is Thailand, nothing is ever made easy for you. Thailand makes rules regarding immigration to make you spend money, ie visa runs out of the country, ninety day reporting, plus all the other costs.

U think Thailand is worse than uk?????

Nonsense

YOU are correct!! It is nonsense to say that Thailand is worse than the UK, USA, or some other western developed countries. Try and have a visa run to the UK or USA, every 90 days, if you are in need of a visa (Thais) and you'll be lucky to get a visa on the second run, after a lot of explanation. Most certainly you won't get one the 3rd time!!!!

[JetsetBkk]

From 90 day reports to the tax system.

I thought the OP was answered after the first reply.

[jackr]

I have a retirement visa, which my lawyer arranges for me each year. He requires passport photos, health certificate and proof of funds.

My passport is away for 3-4 days and then comes back with a multiple entry visa.

I do not have to report every 90 days and have not done so for the last 5 years.

Is this because Krabi immigration operates differently? Am I doing something illegal? I leave the country once a year and have never been questioned on re-entry.

I am not on any house book.

Your lawyer has most likely been getting you an extension of stay based on retirement with multi re-entry permit. If this is correct and you do not leave the county within 90 days, you are required to make 90 reports. Review your stamps in your passport to see exactly what you have. A O-A visa can not be procured in Thailand and must be procured at a Thai embassy/consulate. An extension of stay can be procured at immigration offices in Thailand as well as a multi re-entry permit.

This is what he likely has and is confusing a multiple entry visa with a multi re-entry permit, bearing in mind he already has a retirement visa. A lawyer can indeed sort out the annual extension of stay, as he can the 90-day reports, but what the guy should be receiving is slips to plonk in his passport every 90 days or an email with attachment.

[jackr]

Because the law specifically states that you have to report every 90 days.

(Only since a few years can you be on a yellow household book).

This is Thailand, nothing is ever made easy for you. Thailand makes rules regarding immigration to make you spend money, ie visa runs out of the country, ninety day reporting, plus all the other costs.

U think Thailand is worse than uk?????

Nonsense

YOU are correct!! It is nonsense to say that Thailand is worse than the UK, USA, or some other western developed countries. Try and have a visa run to the UK or USA, every 90 days, if you are in need of a visa (Thais) and you'll be lucky to get a visa on the second run, after a lot of explanation. Most certainly you won't get one the 3rd time!!!!

One cannot compare the immigration status of a developing country with that of the first world, which, incidentally, allows said immigrants to work, buy houses & land and vote. Only very green folk with rose-tinted glasses make this mistake. It is easy to get into Thailand, yes--it earns them lots of easy money--but it is tough to stay permanently, hassle-free and as an equal (lol), which is in direct contrast to the above mentioned countries.

[jackr]

Because the law specifically states that you have to report every 90 days.

Spoken like a true TV mod... it's da law, silly.

[ubonjoe]

Be grateful that you are not assessed to Thai Taxation which those with PR are and on their worldwide income too. A low profile is what you need to adopt.

Actually anybody that is in Thailand for more than 180 days of the year is liable for taxes earned from working or rental income.

You are right, but this refers to income from working in Thailand, out of Thailand on behalf of a Thai company as well as any rentals, interest, dividends etc earned in Thailand. Quite frankly when I read various remarks, advices and the likes in this section, I am sometimes surprised and perturbed by some ignorant an incorrect, as well as somewhat bewildering statements

I suggest you read number 1 on this page of the Revenue Department website.

http://www.rd.go.th/publish/6045.0.html

[Suradit69]

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

By making the 90 days report you do not have to provide documental proof of your address such as

yellow book, driving licence, or an embassy confirmation, just write your address on the 90 days reporting

form and that is accepted.

"just write your address on the 90 days reporting form and that is accepted. "

When you make the 90 day report at Jomtien you need to include proof of address. I use my latest 3BB bill or monthly utility bill. I think it's been a couple of years now they've wanted that, although I just hand them the application along with the photocopies of everything and it's not checked, so I'm not even sure if all those things are still required.

When I apply there for the new annual extension of stay, I have never had to provide proof of my address (despite what other people have claimed is the case for them). I just write it on the application. I bring along the ownership papers for my condo and recent bills with my address, but never needed them. Sometimes I'm asked if I rent or own, but when I say "own" they've never asked to see any documents.

[Soutpeel]

yes a police report is required, even applying in Thailand I think it's required as well. I got my retirement visa in Rayong and they were quite relaxed. I think the list of items for a retirement is quite extensive if you're applying in the UK, better to get it in Thailand but I think you need an 'o' visa in the first place to apply.

Er you dont apply for visa's in Thailand as visa is only issued outside Thailand....seems to be lot of confusion between an visa and an extension of stay/permission to stay...not the same...

for purposes of retirement in your own country before you arrive and you apply for an O-A visa....yes a police report is required in Thailand, if your on an "O" extension for purposes of retirement in Thailand a police report is not required

[tomross46]

Be grateful that you are not assessed to Thai Taxation which those with PR are and on their worldwide income too. A low profile is what you need to adopt.

If you work in Thailand you are required to have a work permit and pay tax. If you work for a company and the company is registered with the Board of Investment and the your visa is BOI sponsored, than it is the responsibility of the company to report your residence every 90 days.

If you are working and do not have a work permit, and are not paying taxes than you have a problem, if someone turn you in.

[lopburi3]

You do not pay tax if you make no income and you can be working without income (NGO volunteers for example). It is the person staying longer than 90 days to report there address on TM.47 - not an employer - although you can allow others to do on your behalf.

[BuriramRes]

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

aTHAI DRIVERS LICENSE IS NO PROOF OF WHERE U STAY????

What if u left your existing property,would u change your thai license to the new address, i dont think so

Exactly right Somtampet but by writing an address on an application form does not either.

I was more interested about what benefit it is to have this yellow book. I know a few people who have one but I have no idea why I would need it.

What is it's purpose?

[Cuban]

I was more interested about what benefit it is to have this yellow book. I know a few people who have one but I have no idea why I would need it.

What is it's purpose?

Suggest you read the copious details in the Yellow Book thread, it will save 2% of ThaiVisa server bandwidth this month alone.

[Soutpeel]

than it is the responsibility of the company to report your residence every 90 days.

nope...its your responsiblity, not the companies, however some companies will do it for you, but they are not responsible

[diehard60]

Because the law specifically states that you have to report every 90 days.

(Only since a few years can you be on a yellow household book).

Wrong. I know for a fact that they have had this for over 25 years. I personally have had one for over 20 years. And just having that "Yellow House Regisration" does not mean you are staying there evry night.

[Dap]

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

By making the 90 days report you do not have to provide documental proof of your address such as

yellow book, driving licence, or an embassy confirmation, just write your address on the 90 days reporting

form and that is accepted.

"just write your address on the 90 days reporting form and that is accepted. "

When you make the 90 day report at Jomtien you need to include proof of address. I use my latest 3BB bill or monthly utility bill. I think it's been a couple of years now they've wanted that, although I just hand them the application along with the photocopies of everything and it's not checked, so I'm not even sure if all those things are still required.

When I apply there for the new annual extension of stay, I have never had to provide proof of my address (despite what other people have claimed is the case for them). I just write it on the application. I bring along the ownership papers for my condo and recent bills with my address, but never needed them. Sometimes I'm asked if I rent or own, but when I say "own" they've never asked to see any documents.

At Chiang Mai Immigration I always attach a copy of my 3BB bill (as you do) and they always unattach it and hand it back to me. I'd stop doing it but just my luck the day I don't have it ... they will want to know where it is.

[personchester]

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

By making the 90 days report you do not have to provide documental proof of your address such as

yellow book, driving licence, or an embassy confirmation, just write your address on the 90 days reporting

form and that is accepted.

I have lived here over 5 years in my house owned by my wife. I am on a Marriage Visa. Is there any benefit to me to get a Yellow Book?

No, it is not essential to have a yellow book, I purchased my house in the year 2000, my wife is the owner of course, I got my yellow book the same year (13 years ago) the obtaining was easy, but I never needed to use it.

Nevertheless, if it might be required one day go and get it, is easy to obtain.

[ripstanley]

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

By making the 90 days report you do not have to provide documental proof of your address such as

yellow book, driving licence, or an embassy confirmation, just write your address on the 90 days reporting

form and that is accepted.

Did my 90 day report (retirement extension) at Mae Sai (Chiang Rai Immigration) in June 2013 and only document required was my passport. No form or any photo copies. I was amazed because I had all documents and still have them. My passport number was entered and I was asked if i still lived in Phayao. No proof of residence was asked for. A computer generated receipt was printed and this was stapled into my passport. Very efficient

[dimplejoe]

Whatever hoops we have to jump through to stay here, plus the frustration experienced with 90 day reporting, the ever changing immigration rules/requirements etc,. Possum1931 and Ace of Pop are right in their assertion that the UK especially, could learn a lot from Thailand.

Recently I read about a couple of guys on long term overstay who were being deported. They were caught flouting the rules and are in jail until their fines and airfares have been paid.

In similar circumstances in the UK, once caught they would either be bailed only to disappear; or if locked up, would enjoy three square meals a day, (special diet if of an ethnic persuasion), access to medical care, hot showers, gyms, cable TV, pool, video games etc,. rather than the squalor of a Thai jail.

No deportation but rather a court appearance (defended by legal aid) where some lawyer will claim their human rights would be breached if they were deported because they have a pet goldfish or some such.

Edited July 6, 2013 by dimplejoe

[BB1955]

As the OP I'm very grateful for all your help - I'm now 'Wised-up'

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

You need to go to your local Amphur office, where Thais get their Blue House Registration Books, as you probably guessed. Take your passport with copies of relevant things like personal details and visa. You'll need to get a letter from Immigration to prove you're here on a long term basis(which they count as a year); you won't get one on a Tourist Visa. Also, proof of residence at the relevant address eg rental agreement.

You will also need to furnish two people who work for the government to go with you to verifie you are who you are and where you live ...

[Maestro]

yes a police report is required, even applying in Thailand I think it's required as well. I got my retirement visa in Rayong and they were quite relaxed. I think the list of items for a retirement is quite extensive if you're applying in the UK, better to get it in Thailand but I think you need an 'o' visa in the first place to apply.

Er you dont apply for visa's in Thailand as visa is only issued outside Thailand....seems to be lot of confusion between an visa and an extension of stay/permission to stay...not the same...

for purposes of retirement in your own country before you arrive and you apply for an O-A visa....yes a police report is required in Thailand, if your on an "O" extension for purposes of retirement in Thailand a police report is not required

Actually, you can get a visa, a non-immigrant visa, in Thailand if you arrived visa-exempt or with a tourist visa and need the non-immigrant visa for a particular type of one-year extension for which you qualify, eg marriage or retirement extension. As part of this process, it is called change of visa, you apply for it with form TM.86, and the immigration officer stamps a real and proper visa in your passport:

Of course you cannot use this visa for travelling to Thailand, since you are in Thailand already. It is valid only for the date of its issuance and gets used the moment it is stamped in your passport, and you get a new arrival stamp with permission to stay for 90 days from that date forward. (Regrettably, I do not have the corresponding arrival stamp in my album).

We are off topic with this in a topic about the 90-day address report but since this topic has gone off topic so far already, including taxation, I figure there is no harm in mentioning it here.

[ripstanley]

As the OP I'm very grateful for all your help - I'm now 'Wised-up'

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

You need to go to your local Amphur office, where Thais get their Blue House Registration Books, as you probably guessed. Take your passport with copies of relevant things like personal details and visa. You'll need to get a letter from Immigration to prove you're here on a long term basis(which they count as a year); you won't get one on a Tourist Visa. Also, proof of residence at the relevant address eg rental agreement.

You will also need to furnish two people who work for the government to go with you to verifie you are who you are and where you live ...

Check with your local Amphur office before you go. I needed two witnesses from my village.

[jonjo]

At immigration I usually show my Thai drivers licence as proof of where I live. This has always been fine.

How does one get a yellow book?

aTHAI DRIVERS LICENSE IS NO PROOF OF WHERE U STAY????

What if u left your existing property,would u change your thai license to the new address, i dont think so

My driving license has my address on the back in Thai so I presume if I move I would have to change it...right. Also a few days ago I went down to City Hall in Pattaya to apply for my yellow book only to be given two blue books for my condo for 50 baht (25 baht each) .When I was stopped by police a few weeks ago they asked me where I lived and checked it on my license,