Honda cbr650 2014

[mania]

CB800 Hornet for 2015?

On FB

[ll2]

CB800 Hornet for 2015?

On FB

hope it is true!

I am hearing rumors too that Honda will release a bigger cc bike on 2015. But i hope they release another version with fairings like cbr650f.

If it is true, than again i will trade in my cbr650f

I get used of trading my bikes every year!

[mania]

hope it is true!

I am hearing rumors too that Honda will release a bigger cc bike on 2015. But i hope they release another version with fairings like cbr650f.

If it is true, than again i will trade in my cbr650f:D

I get used of trading my bikes every year!

I think it is their response to the Yamaha MT-09

That bike seems to be becoming wildly successful in the west

Fun factor is very high & folks are loving the price/performance from it

If Honda can do something similar power to weight wise + low price

they too would probably do well with it

[ll2]

hope it is true!

I am hearing rumors too that Honda will release a bigger cc bike on 2015. But i hope they release another version with fairings like cbr650f.

If it is true, than again i will trade in my cbr650f:D

I get used of trading my bikes every year!

I think it is their response to the Yamaha MT-09

That bike seems to be becoming wildly successful in the west

Fun factor is very high & folks are loving the price/performance from it

If Honda can do something similar power to weight wise + low price

they too would probably do well with it

exactly. Also to compete with kawa z800.

reviews say it will be like 190 kg! so i expect something similar to mt 09.

i am opening a thread about it now.

[ll2]

hope it is true!

I am hearing rumors too that Honda will release a bigger cc bike on 2015. But i hope they release another version with fairings like cbr650f.

If it is true, than again i will trade in my cbr650f:D

I get used of trading my bikes every year!

I think it is their response to the Yamaha MT-09

That bike seems to be becoming wildly successful in the west

Fun factor is very high & folks are loving the price/performance from it

If Honda can do something similar power to weight wise + low price

they too would probably do well with it

exactly. Also to compete with kawa z800.

reviews say it will be like 190 kg! so i expect something similar to mt 09.

i am opening a thread about it now.

[ll2]

hope it is true!

I am hearing rumors too that Honda will release a bigger cc bike on 2015. But i hope they release another version with fairings like cbr650f.

If it is true, than again i will trade in my cbr650f:D

I get used of trading my bikes every year!

I think it is their response to the Yamaha MT-09

That bike seems to be becoming wildly successful in the west

Fun factor is very high & folks are loving the price/performance from it

If Honda can do something similar power to weight wise + low price

they too would probably do well with it

i think they also want to compete with kawa z800.

And reviews say around 190 kg so it looks like it will be similar to mt09!

I am opening a thread about it now!

[Nithesh]

This is all i can find about it.

Edited May 24, 2014 by Nithesh

[mania]

CB650f

Pekky Pro Superbike FB page

Edited May 24, 2014 by mania

[DILLIGAD]

I was told by a mate that Honda brought out the CB & CBR500 first, then a CBX followed. has anyone heard any whispers that there will be a CB650X in the pipeline?

Adventure style bike numbers seem to be increasing here in Thailand

[mania]

great info mania. Thanks!

I am totally interested on this full exhaust. But couldn't find price info yet. Will call devil guys directly tomorrow.

Price now out for Devil full systems

Not cheap

27,900 Stainless Titanium, Dry Carbon 29,900 baht

[guzzi850m2]

I was told by a mate that Honda brought out the CB & CBR500 first, then a CBX followed. has anyone heard any whispers that there will be a CB650X in the pipeline?

Adventure style bike numbers seem to be increasing here in Thailand

I hope they do, I can't ride R models anymore , too old man.

An X model makes perfect sense for Thailand.

[dave_boo]

I was told by a mate that Honda brought out the CB & CBR500 first, then a CBX followed. has anyone heard any whispers that there will be a CB650X in the pipeline?

Adventure style bike numbers seem to be increasing here in Thailand

I hope they do, I can't ride R models anymore , too old man.

An X model makes perfect sense for Thailand.

I agree about the X model being a good match for Thailand...and I am not (that) old yet.

[seedy]

Pekky just down the road from where I live. They do nice work - but only cosmetic so far.

Hope they get one or two engine guys in one day.

[Wong!]

I read somewhere that Honda are not going to do a 650X. Hopefully they'll change their mind.

Sent from my GT-P3100 using Tapatalk

[dave_boo]

I read somewhere that Honda are not going to do a 650X. Hopefully they'll change their mind.

Sent from my GT-P3100 using Tapatalk

Firstly I hope your recollection is wrong.

Secondly I hope that if it is right, Honda says "effe it" and brings a 650X.

Thirdly I hope they don't look at their CB500X, NC700/750X, NT700V (Deauville), VFR800X, and the rumoured Africa Twin/CRF1000L and decide they have their bases covered. They really need to come up with something aimed at the BMW F700GS (75 HP/186 ! kg), Kawasaki Versys (59.4 HP/206 kg), Suzuki V-Strom 650 (66 HP/220 kg), and Triumph Tiger 800 XC (94 HP/215 kg). Notice I didn't include the KLR650...nothing can match that well priced war horse. If Honda can keep the weight down, it should be pretty comparable to the other mid-range ADV style bikes in the power to weight department.

[JonnyF]

I read somewhere that Honda are not going to do a 650X. Hopefully they'll change their mind.

Sent from my GT-P3100 using Tapatalk

I noticed Bigwing have the VFR1200X on the website now which might also suggest they think they're covered now for adventure bikes. This thing's the real deal - but 860,000 baht is a bit pricey.

[irishtoffy]

hey,

Does anyone have their bike yet? How is it? I am planning on getting one in Pattaya big wing, but they have told me 3 months waiting list!

So i am assuming there are a lot on the roads now, as when I went there 2 weekends ago there was about 30-40 and all were already sold apparently

[ntv69]

hey,

Does anyone have their bike yet? How is it? I am planning on getting one in Pattaya big wing, but they have told me 3 months waiting list!

So i am assuming there are a lot on the roads now, as when I went there 2 weekends ago there was about 30-40 and all were already sold apparently

I had my wife call there today and they said 1 month wait time for cb650f.

[ll2]

hey,

Does anyone have their bike yet? How is it? I am planning on getting one in Pattaya big wing, but they have told me 3 months waiting list!

So i am assuming there are a lot on the roads now, as when I went there 2 weekends ago there was about 30-40 and all were already sold apparently

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/658608-honda-cbr650-2014/?p=7572790

read the thread, you will find many info.

[irishtoffy]

Thanks for that link II2! It was a greta read. Has helped me make my mind up no end.

What your opinions now after riding it for a while?

hey,

Does anyone have their bike yet? How is it? I am planning on getting one in Pattaya big wing, but they have told me 3 months waiting list!

So i am assuming there are a lot on the roads now, as when I went there 2 weekends ago there was about 30-40 and all were already sold apparently

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/658608-honda-cbr650-2014/?p=7572790

read the thread, you will find many info.

[irishtoffy]

Thanks for that link II2! It was a greta read. Has helped me make my mind up no end.

What your opinions now after riding it for a while?

hey,

Does anyone have their bike yet? How is it? I am planning on getting one in Pattaya big wing, but they have told me 3 months waiting list!

So i am assuming there are a lot on the roads now, as when I went there 2 weekends ago there was about 30-40 and all were already sold apparently

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/658608-honda-cbr650-2014/?p=7572790

read the thread, you will find many info.

[irishtoffy]

Thanks for that link II2! It was a greta read. Has helped me make my mind up no end.

What your opinions now after riding it for a while?

hey,

Does anyone have their bike yet? How is it? I am planning on getting one in Pattaya big wing, but they have told me 3 months waiting list!

So i am assuming there are a lot on the roads now, as when I went there 2 weekends ago there was about 30-40 and all were already sold apparently

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/658608-honda-cbr650-2014/?p=7572790

read the thread, you will find many info.

[ll2]

OK, it is time for a long term review then!

Now, bike is at 5500 km about to go to 6000 km service.

Bike runs great overall! It is sure a blast after all those years without an inline four!

Engine is fully broken and runs really smooth. But got some numb hands a couple of time riding at high speeds over two hours but not a bad one.

Transmission is also much more better. Lightest gear changes i have ever seen but it might disturb some riders like me as i am used to clicky honda transmissions still upshifts are clicky and only downshifts are a little vague IMO. for others, they say very easy and less tiring to change gears so it is positive for some and negative like others. Clutch-less up shifts even from the second gear is butter smooth!

There is a rattle from the instrument cluster and solution is easy bigwing mechs say, just a couple of foam plasters and all is good they added. But it takes time so left it to 6000 km service.

After removing the stock tail and installing an aftermarket tail tidy, i got lots of mud, dirt and many other road grim on my seat, back, neck and helmet so bought a mud guard for mansoon season and it works great! totally recommended. Anyway, other riders said that stock tail does not prevent mud that mush so a mudguard is a good investment for the bike and if you would like to keep going with your girlfriend happily!

Brakes are cool! Very good modulation and rear brake is really strong this time so less wear for font ones and less pad change. I was getting an high pitch sound like brake fade sound for around 3000 kms especially after brakes are hot but it disappear recently. Anyway bigwing mechs say that it is all about sandpapering the brake pads if the problem continues.

Ergonomics are great! You can stay upright if you get close to the tank and tuck nicely if you move your ass back a bit. Seat is very very comfy surprisingly. Never get any arse pain for 5500 kms but i have an iron bu anyway coming from years of riding. I changed the rearsets and for me, it became easier to ride the bike and more ground clearance and no bad vibrations.

Wind protection is also good for that tiny windscreen. No buffeting. There are some aftermarket screens now but i fear like it might lift the bike or make it worse.

I had a couple of gremlins in bikes electrical system as burned two fuses. But they all appear after changing the stock signals with led ones though. Now one of the signal at right front and right back works in mysterious ways! When i give the signal, right front performs normally but when i open the emergency/hazard lights, 3 of the 20 leds does not light up! But only three of them, no problems for normal signal operation! Same for right rear, it gives less light than left rear somehow at times but not all the time! Not sure what it is, any ideas welcome but i think it is about the wrong selection of relays.

Front light is powerful enough. Personally one does not need one if you dont have problems with your eyes. Still, i am looking for led headlights. Found one 20 watts led headlight for 700 and 900 thb but they say it tends to get hot so they did nto totally recommended it to me. But another auto electrician guy told me that no problems! Might try.

Handling and suspensions. What i like about this bike. handles great. I am happy not buying the Ohlins rear shock right away. i will wait for a nice aftermarket cartridge for front that get the rear ohlins. of course added some more preload to the rear for track days.

Turn ins are easy. I commute in Bangkok and was fearing like bike might feel a lot heavy but Honda did a good job by keeping the center of gravity down so bikes feels light. Especially it gets surprisingly light once the petrol light starts to blink bc it means bike is around 10 kgs lighter. No problems on commuting at congested Bangkok roads.

Also bike generates less heat than i expected. Nearly the same as cbr500r really. Of course, any big bike is disturbing on this matter at 50 degrees Celsius Bangkok asphalt!

Exhaust is a mute one and not giving awareness for others on the road which is a problem for me but apart from that it looks great and packed neatly down the bike. Thinking about getting Devil full system but it is mounted to the side of the bike which makes commuting harder for me. Might wait for a nice exhaust system that fits the same place where the stock pipe is.

Engine sounds great which compensates the mute exhaust especially when it is revving!

I was debating my self for cbr1000rr and cbr650f for a while before buying it but i did the right thing on buying the cbr650f as i commute, tour, go for track days and it is a better compromise that cbr1000rr.

Great low down torque, a very useful 2500 rpm wide power band, and it pulls even from 6th gear easily. above 8000 rpm, it turns to a real monster.

Personally, i dotn need a faster bike that this at roads but thinking to get a cbr1000rr for track days and maybe some rare spirited rides around Thailand. It is also great for my commute.

I am a happy rider having a blast all the time.

can recommend this bike as it holds a great value and real world usability and performance.

[irishtoffy]

II2..a very informative post, thank you!

You sound extremely happy with the bike.

I have had a SR400, XJR400 and ninja 250. Do you think I'll notice a big jump in power? And in terms of me being able to handle such a big bike?

OK, it is time for a long term review then!

Now, bike is at 5500 km about to go to 6000 km service.

Bike runs great overall! It is sure a blast after all those years without an inline four!

Engine is fully broken and runs really smooth. But got some numb hands a couple of time riding at high speeds over two hours but not a bad one.

Transmission is also much more better. Lightest gear changes i have ever seen but it might disturb some riders like me as i am used to clicky honda transmissions still upshifts are clicky and only downshifts are a little vague IMO. for others, they say very easy and less tiring to change gears so it is positive for some and negative like others. Clutch-less up shifts even from the second gear is butter smooth!

There is a rattle from the instrument cluster and solution is easy bigwing mechs say, just a couple of foam plasters and all is good they added. But it takes time so left it to 6000 km service.

After removing the stock tail and installing an aftermarket tail tidy, i got lots of mud, dirt and many other road grim on my seat, back, neck and helmet so bought a mud guard for mansoon season and it works great! totally recommended. Anyway, other riders said that stock tail does not prevent mud that mush so a mudguard is a good investment for the bike and if you would like to keep going with your girlfriend happily!

Brakes are cool! Very good modulation and rear brake is really strong this time so less wear for font ones and less pad change. I was getting an high pitch sound like brake fade sound for around 3000 kms especially after brakes are hot but it disappear recently. Anyway bigwing mechs say that it is all about sandpapering the brake pads if the problem continues.

Ergonomics are great! You can stay upright if you get close to the tank and tuck nicely if you move your ass back a bit. Seat is very very comfy surprisingly. Never get any arse pain for 5500 kms but i have an iron bu anyway coming from years of riding. I changed the rearsets and for me, it became easier to ride the bike and more ground clearance and no bad vibrations.

Wind protection is also good for that tiny windscreen. No buffeting. There are some aftermarket screens now but i fear like it might lift the bike or make it worse.

I had a couple of gremlins in bikes electrical system as burned two fuses. But they all appear after changing the stock signals with led ones though. Now one of the signal at right front and right back works in mysterious ways! When i give the signal, right front performs normally but when i open the emergency/hazard lights, 3 of the 20 leds does not light up! But only three of them, no problems for normal signal operation! Same for right rear, it gives less light than left rear somehow at times but not all the time! Not sure what it is, any ideas welcome but i think it is about the wrong selection of relays.

Front light is powerful enough. Personally one does not need one if you dont have problems with your eyes. Still, i am looking for led headlights. Found one 20 watts led headlight for 700 and 900 thb but they say it tends to get hot so they did nto totally recommended it to me. But another auto electrician guy told me that no problems! Might try.

Handling and suspensions. What i like about this bike. handles great. I am happy not buying the Ohlins rear shock right away. i will wait for a nice aftermarket cartridge for front that get the rear ohlins. of course added some more preload to the rear for track days.

Turn ins are easy. I commute in Bangkok and was fearing like bike might feel a lot heavy but Honda did a good job by keeping the center of gravity down so bikes feels light. Especially it gets surprisingly light once the petrol light starts to blink bc it means bike is around 10 kgs lighter. No problems on commuting at congested Bangkok roads.

Also bike generates less heat than i expected. Nearly the same as cbr500r really. Of course, any big bike is disturbing on this matter at 50 degrees Celsius Bangkok asphalt!

Exhaust is a mute one and not giving awareness for others on the road which is a problem for me but apart from that it looks great and packed neatly down the bike. Thinking about getting Devil full system but it is mounted to the side of the bike which makes commuting harder for me. Might wait for a nice exhaust system that fits the same place where the stock pipe is.

Engine sounds great which compensates the mute exhaust especially when it is revving!

I was debating my self for cbr1000rr and cbr650f for a while before buying it but i did the right thing on buying the cbr650f as i commute, tour, go for track days and it is a better compromise that cbr1000rr.

Great low down torque, a very useful 2500 rpm wide power band, and it pulls even from 6th gear easily. above 8000 rpm, it turns to a real monster.

Personally, i dotn need a faster bike that this at roads but thinking to get a cbr1000rr for track days and maybe some rare spirited rides around Thailand. It is also great for my commute.

I am a happy rider having a blast all the time.

can recommend this bike as it holds a great value and real world usability and performance.

[funcat]

OK, it is time for a long term review then!

Now, bike is at 5500 km about to go to 6000 km service.

Bike runs great overall! It is sure a blast after all those years without an inline four!

Engine is fully broken and runs really smooth. But got some numb hands a couple of time riding at high speeds over two hours but not a bad one.

Transmission is also much more better. Lightest gear changes i have ever seen but it might disturb some riders like me as i am used to clicky honda transmissions still upshifts are clicky and only downshifts are a little vague IMO. for others, they say very easy and less tiring to change gears so it is positive for some and negative like others. Clutch-less up shifts even from the second gear is butter smooth!

There is a rattle from the instrument cluster and solution is easy bigwing mechs say, just a couple of foam plasters and all is good they added. But it takes time so left it to 6000 km service.

After removing the stock tail and installing an aftermarket tail tidy, i got lots of mud, dirt and many other road grim on my seat, back, neck and helmet so bought a mud guard for mansoon season and it works great! totally recommended. Anyway, other riders said that stock tail does not prevent mud that mush so a mudguard is a good investment for the bike and if you would like to keep going with your girlfriend happily!

Brakes are cool! Very good modulation and rear brake is really strong this time so less wear for font ones and less pad change. I was getting an high pitch sound like brake fade sound for around 3000 kms especially after brakes are hot but it disappear recently. Anyway bigwing mechs say that it is all about sandpapering the brake pads if the problem continues.

Ergonomics are great! You can stay upright if you get close to the tank and tuck nicely if you move your ass back a bit. Seat is very very comfy surprisingly. Never get any arse pain for 5500 kms but i have an iron bu anyway coming from years of riding. I changed the rearsets and for me, it became easier to ride the bike and more ground clearance and no bad vibrations.

Wind protection is also good for that tiny windscreen. No buffeting. There are some aftermarket screens now but i fear like it might lift the bike or make it worse.

I had a couple of gremlins in bikes electrical system as burned two fuses. But they all appear after changing the stock signals with led ones though. Now one of the signal at right front and right back works in mysterious ways! When i give the signal, right front performs normally but when i open the emergency/hazard lights, 3 of the 20 leds does not light up! But only three of them, no problems for normal signal operation! Same for right rear, it gives less light than left rear somehow at times but not all the time! Not sure what it is, any ideas welcome but i think it is about the wrong selection of relays.

Front light is powerful enough. Personally one does not need one if you dont have problems with your eyes. Still, i am looking for led headlights. Found one 20 watts led headlight for 700 and 900 thb but they say it tends to get hot so they did nto totally recommended it to me. But another auto electrician guy told me that no problems! Might try.

Handling and suspensions. What i like about this bike. handles great. I am happy not buying the Ohlins rear shock right away. i will wait for a nice aftermarket cartridge for front that get the rear ohlins. of course added some more preload to the rear for track days.

Turn ins are easy. I commute in Bangkok and was fearing like bike might feel a lot heavy but Honda did a good job by keeping the center of gravity down so bikes feels light. Especially it gets surprisingly light once the petrol light starts to blink bc it means bike is around 10 kgs lighter. No problems on commuting at congested Bangkok roads.

Also bike generates less heat than i expected. Nearly the same as cbr500r really. Of course, any big bike is disturbing on this matter at 50 degrees Celsius Bangkok asphalt!

Exhaust is a mute one and not giving awareness for others on the road which is a problem for me but apart from that it looks great and packed neatly down the bike. Thinking about getting Devil full system but it is mounted to the side of the bike which makes commuting harder for me. Might wait for a nice exhaust system that fits the same place where the stock pipe is.

Engine sounds great which compensates the mute exhaust especially when it is revving!

I was debating my self for cbr1000rr and cbr650f for a while before buying it but i did the right thing on buying the cbr650f as i commute, tour, go for track days and it is a better compromise that cbr1000rr.

Great low down torque, a very useful 2500 rpm wide power band, and it pulls even from 6th gear easily. above 8000 rpm, it turns to a real monster.

Personally, i dotn need a faster bike that this at roads but thinking to get a cbr1000rr for track days and maybe some rare spirited rides around Thailand. It is also great for my commute.

I am a happy rider having a blast all the time.

can recommend this bike as it holds a great value and real world usability and performance.

Great writing....now,since you've had a CBR500 as well,how can you compare those 2 bikes,what are the major differences...except for the power of course...

[ll2]

OK, it is time for a long term review then!

Now, bike is at 5500 km about to go to 6000 km service.

Bike runs great overall! It is sure a blast after all those years without an inline four!

Engine is fully broken and runs really smooth. But got some numb hands a couple of time riding at high speeds over two hours but not a bad one.

Transmission is also much more better. Lightest gear changes i have ever seen but it might disturb some riders like me as i am used to clicky honda transmissions still upshifts are clicky and only downshifts are a little vague IMO. for others, they say very easy and less tiring to change gears so it is positive for some and negative like others. Clutch-less up shifts even from the second gear is butter smooth!

There is a rattle from the instrument cluster and solution is easy bigwing mechs say, just a couple of foam plasters and all is good they added. But it takes time so left it to 6000 km service.

After removing the stock tail and installing an aftermarket tail tidy, i got lots of mud, dirt and many other road grim on my seat, back, neck and helmet so bought a mud guard for mansoon season and it works great! totally recommended. Anyway, other riders said that stock tail does not prevent mud that mush so a mudguard is a good investment for the bike and if you would like to keep going with your girlfriend happily!

Brakes are cool! Very good modulation and rear brake is really strong this time so less wear for font ones and less pad change. I was getting an high pitch sound like brake fade sound for around 3000 kms especially after brakes are hot but it disappear recently. Anyway bigwing mechs say that it is all about sandpapering the brake pads if the problem continues.

Ergonomics are great! You can stay upright if you get close to the tank and tuck nicely if you move your ass back a bit. Seat is very very comfy surprisingly. Never get any arse pain for 5500 kms but i have an iron bu anyway coming from years of riding. I changed the rearsets and for me, it became easier to ride the bike and more ground clearance and no bad vibrations.

Wind protection is also good for that tiny windscreen. No buffeting. There are some aftermarket screens now but i fear like it might lift the bike or make it worse.

I had a couple of gremlins in bikes electrical system as burned two fuses. But they all appear after changing the stock signals with led ones though. Now one of the signal at right front and right back works in mysterious ways! When i give the signal, right front performs normally but when i open the emergency/hazard lights, 3 of the 20 leds does not light up! But only three of them, no problems for normal signal operation! Same for right rear, it gives less light than left rear somehow at times but not all the time! Not sure what it is, any ideas welcome but i think it is about the wrong selection of relays.

Front light is powerful enough. Personally one does not need one if you dont have problems with your eyes. Still, i am looking for led headlights. Found one 20 watts led headlight for 700 and 900 thb but they say it tends to get hot so they did nto totally recommended it to me. But another auto electrician guy told me that no problems! Might try.

Handling and suspensions. What i like about this bike. handles great. I am happy not buying the Ohlins rear shock right away. i will wait for a nice aftermarket cartridge for front that get the rear ohlins. of course added some more preload to the rear for track days.

Turn ins are easy. I commute in Bangkok and was fearing like bike might feel a lot heavy but Honda did a good job by keeping the center of gravity down so bikes feels light. Especially it gets surprisingly light once the petrol light starts to blink bc it means bike is around 10 kgs lighter. No problems on commuting at congested Bangkok roads.

Also bike generates less heat than i expected. Nearly the same as cbr500r really. Of course, any big bike is disturbing on this matter at 50 degrees Celsius Bangkok asphalt!

Exhaust is a mute one and not giving awareness for others on the road which is a problem for me but apart from that it looks great and packed neatly down the bike. Thinking about getting Devil full system but it is mounted to the side of the bike which makes commuting harder for me. Might wait for a nice exhaust system that fits the same place where the stock pipe is.

Engine sounds great which compensates the mute exhaust especially when it is revving!

I was debating my self for cbr1000rr and cbr650f for a while before buying it but i did the right thing on buying the cbr650f as i commute, tour, go for track days and it is a better compromise that cbr1000rr.

Great low down torque, a very useful 2500 rpm wide power band, and it pulls even from 6th gear easily. above 8000 rpm, it turns to a real monster.

Personally, i dotn need a faster bike that this at roads but thinking to get a cbr1000rr for track days and maybe some rare spirited rides around Thailand. It is also great for my commute.

I am a happy rider having a blast all the time.

can recommend this bike as it holds a great value and real world usability and performance.

Great writing....now,since you've had a CBR500 as well,how can you compare those 2 bikes,what are the major differences...except for the power of course...

major difference is on power, weight, handling, comfort.

i like cb500rs bicycle like agility and turn ins. if you lean cbr650f a bit at parking lots a bit more than usual,you need strong arms to pull it back really. cbr500r was great at city, parking lots etc.

of course cbr500r is a hassle free and forgiving bike. but cbr650f is a fast bike and you nee to be more careful.

Fuel consumption for cbr500r was around 20 km/l for me and it is around 16 km/l for cbr650f. Of course seen worse than that at track and after some spirited rides. So, only 20 percent difference on consumption but you get nearly double the power on cbr650f.

cbr500r suspensions were a bit spongy. especially excessive dive at front when braking and good amounts of mid corner disturbance. Also cbr500r had a very light front end and getting a wobble was a daily affair especially two up. cbr650f is a lot better in terms of suspension and handling. never got a wobble with cbr650f - and hope it continues this way! Also top speed tsability is top notch, it does not move even a cm.

wind protection and aerodynamics is better at cbr650f so do lights.

i like the transmission of cbr500r more though.

cbr650f is also a more comfortable bike and more room for two up touring.

overall, cbr650f is a better bike

[ll2]

II2..a very informative post, thank you!

You sound extremely happy with the bike.

I have had a SR400, XJR400 and ninja 250. Do you think I'll notice a big jump in power? And in terms of me being able to handle such a big bike?

OK, it is time for a long term review then!

Now, bike is at 5500 km about to go to 6000 km service.

Bike runs great overall! It is sure a blast after all those years without an inline four!

Engine is fully broken and runs really smooth. But got some numb hands a couple of time riding at high speeds over two hours but not a bad one.

Transmission is also much more better. Lightest gear changes i have ever seen but it might disturb some riders like me as i am used to clicky honda transmissions still upshifts are clicky and only downshifts are a little vague IMO. for others, they say very easy and less tiring to change gears so it is positive for some and negative like others. Clutch-less up shifts even from the second gear is butter smooth!

There is a rattle from the instrument cluster and solution is easy bigwing mechs say, just a couple of foam plasters and all is good they added. But it takes time so left it to 6000 km service.

After removing the stock tail and installing an aftermarket tail tidy, i got lots of mud, dirt and many other road grim on my seat, back, neck and helmet so bought a mud guard for mansoon season and it works great! totally recommended. Anyway, other riders said that stock tail does not prevent mud that mush so a mudguard is a good investment for the bike and if you would like to keep going with your girlfriend happily!

Brakes are cool! Very good modulation and rear brake is really strong this time so less wear for font ones and less pad change. I was getting an high pitch sound like brake fade sound for around 3000 kms especially after brakes are hot but it disappear recently. Anyway bigwing mechs say that it is all about sandpapering the brake pads if the problem continues.

Ergonomics are great! You can stay upright if you get close to the tank and tuck nicely if you move your ass back a bit. Seat is very very comfy surprisingly. Never get any arse pain for 5500 kms but i have an iron bu anyway coming from years of riding. I changed the rearsets and for me, it became easier to ride the bike and more ground clearance and no bad vibrations.

Wind protection is also good for that tiny windscreen. No buffeting. There are some aftermarket screens now but i fear like it might lift the bike or make it worse.

I had a couple of gremlins in bikes electrical system as burned two fuses. But they all appear after changing the stock signals with led ones though. Now one of the signal at right front and right back works in mysterious ways! When i give the signal, right front performs normally but when i open the emergency/hazard lights, 3 of the 20 leds does not light up! But only three of them, no problems for normal signal operation! Same for right rear, it gives less light than left rear somehow at times but not all the time! Not sure what it is, any ideas welcome but i think it is about the wrong selection of relays.

Front light is powerful enough. Personally one does not need one if you dont have problems with your eyes. Still, i am looking for led headlights. Found one 20 watts led headlight for 700 and 900 thb but they say it tends to get hot so they did nto totally recommended it to me. But another auto electrician guy told me that no problems! Might try.

Handling and suspensions. What i like about this bike. handles great. I am happy not buying the Ohlins rear shock right away. i will wait for a nice aftermarket cartridge for front that get the rear ohlins. of course added some more preload to the rear for track days.

Turn ins are easy. I commute in Bangkok and was fearing like bike might feel a lot heavy but Honda did a good job by keeping the center of gravity down so bikes feels light. Especially it gets surprisingly light once the petrol light starts to blink bc it means bike is around 10 kgs lighter. No problems on commuting at congested Bangkok roads.

Also bike generates less heat than i expected. Nearly the same as cbr500r really. Of course, any big bike is disturbing on this matter at 50 degrees Celsius Bangkok asphalt!

Exhaust is a mute one and not giving awareness for others on the road which is a problem for me but apart from that it looks great and packed neatly down the bike. Thinking about getting Devil full system but it is mounted to the side of the bike which makes commuting harder for me. Might wait for a nice exhaust system that fits the same place where the stock pipe is.

Engine sounds great which compensates the mute exhaust especially when it is revving!

I was debating my self for cbr1000rr and cbr650f for a while before buying it but i did the right thing on buying the cbr650f as i commute, tour, go for track days and it is a better compromise that cbr1000rr.

Great low down torque, a very useful 2500 rpm wide power band, and it pulls even from 6th gear easily. above 8000 rpm, it turns to a real monster.

Personally, i dotn need a faster bike that this at roads but thinking to get a cbr1000rr for track days and maybe some rare spirited rides around Thailand. It is also great for my commute.

I am a happy rider having a blast all the time.

can recommend this bike as it holds a great value and real world usability and performance.

if you were riding a 400 cc, i think it should be fine to move to 650 series.

cb650f especially feels lighter.

[brfsa2]

from 400cc to this 650 is a no brainer upgrade. besides that you will be able to sell your cb650 in 1 day when you need to

Thanks LL2 for the great review, indeed this is a great bike and very affordable in Thailand.

[irishtoffy]

Thats great..brilliant write up on the pros and cons of the bike.

Although doesnt seem like you found many bad things about it yet!

What about that rattle on dash you mentioned before?

Will Honda fix that as part of warranty? Or is it on you?

II2..a very informative post, thank you!

You sound extremely happy with the bike.

I have had a SR400, XJR400 and ninja 250. Do you think I'll notice a big jump in power? And in terms of me being able to handle such a big bike?

OK, it is time for a long term review then!

Now, bike is at 5500 km about to go to 6000 km service.

Bike runs great overall! It is sure a blast after all those years without an inline four!

Engine is fully broken and runs really smooth. But got some numb hands a couple of time riding at high speeds over two hours but not a bad one.

Transmission is also much more better. Lightest gear changes i have ever seen but it might disturb some riders like me as i am used to clicky honda transmissions still upshifts are clicky and only downshifts are a little vague IMO. for others, they say very easy and less tiring to change gears so it is positive for some and negative like others. Clutch-less up shifts even from the second gear is butter smooth!

There is a rattle from the instrument cluster and solution is easy bigwing mechs say, just a couple of foam plasters and all is good they added. But it takes time so left it to 6000 km service.

After removing the stock tail and installing an aftermarket tail tidy, i got lots of mud, dirt and many other road grim on my seat, back, neck and helmet so bought a mud guard for mansoon season and it works great! totally recommended. Anyway, other riders said that stock tail does not prevent mud that mush so a mudguard is a good investment for the bike and if you would like to keep going with your girlfriend happily!

Brakes are cool! Very good modulation and rear brake is really strong this time so less wear for font ones and less pad change. I was getting an high pitch sound like brake fade sound for around 3000 kms especially after brakes are hot but it disappear recently. Anyway bigwing mechs say that it is all about sandpapering the brake pads if the problem continues.

Ergonomics are great! You can stay upright if you get close to the tank and tuck nicely if you move your ass back a bit. Seat is very very comfy surprisingly. Never get any arse pain for 5500 kms but i have an iron bu anyway coming from years of riding. I changed the rearsets and for me, it became easier to ride the bike and more ground clearance and no bad vibrations.

Wind protection is also good for that tiny windscreen. No buffeting. There are some aftermarket screens now but i fear like it might lift the bike or make it worse.

I had a couple of gremlins in bikes electrical system as burned two fuses. But they all appear after changing the stock signals with led ones though. Now one of the signal at right front and right back works in mysterious ways! When i give the signal, right front performs normally but when i open the emergency/hazard lights, 3 of the 20 leds does not light up! But only three of them, no problems for normal signal operation! Same for right rear, it gives less light than left rear somehow at times but not all the time! Not sure what it is, any ideas welcome but i think it is about the wrong selection of relays.

Front light is powerful enough. Personally one does not need one if you dont have problems with your eyes. Still, i am looking for led headlights. Found one 20 watts led headlight for 700 and 900 thb but they say it tends to get hot so they did nto totally recommended it to me. But another auto electrician guy told me that no problems! Might try.

Handling and suspensions. What i like about this bike. handles great. I am happy not buying the Ohlins rear shock right away. i will wait for a nice aftermarket cartridge for front that get the rear ohlins. of course added some more preload to the rear for track days.

Turn ins are easy. I commute in Bangkok and was fearing like bike might feel a lot heavy but Honda did a good job by keeping the center of gravity down so bikes feels light. Especially it gets surprisingly light once the petrol light starts to blink bc it means bike is around 10 kgs lighter. No problems on commuting at congested Bangkok roads.

Also bike generates less heat than i expected. Nearly the same as cbr500r really. Of course, any big bike is disturbing on this matter at 50 degrees Celsius Bangkok asphalt!

Exhaust is a mute one and not giving awareness for others on the road which is a problem for me but apart from that it looks great and packed neatly down the bike. Thinking about getting Devil full system but it is mounted to the side of the bike which makes commuting harder for me. Might wait for a nice exhaust system that fits the same place where the stock pipe is.

Engine sounds great which compensates the mute exhaust especially when it is revving!

I was debating my self for cbr1000rr and cbr650f for a while before buying it but i did the right thing on buying the cbr650f as i commute, tour, go for track days and it is a better compromise that cbr1000rr.

Great low down torque, a very useful 2500 rpm wide power band, and it pulls even from 6th gear easily. above 8000 rpm, it turns to a real monster.

Personally, i dotn need a faster bike that this at roads but thinking to get a cbr1000rr for track days and maybe some rare spirited rides around Thailand. It is also great for my commute.

I am a happy rider having a blast all the time.

can recommend this bike as it holds a great value and real world usability and performance.

if you were riding a 400 cc, i think it should be fine to move to 650 series.

cb650f especially feels lighter.

[ll2]

Thats great..brilliant write up on the pros and cons of the bike.

Although doesnt seem like you found many bad things about it yet!

What about that rattle on dash you mentioned before?

Will Honda fix that as part of warranty? Or is it on you?

II2..a very informative post, thank you!

You sound extremely happy with the bike.

I have had a SR400, XJR400 and ninja 250. Do you think I'll notice a big jump in power? And in terms of me being able to handle such a big bike?

OK, it is time for a long term review then!

Now, bike is at 5500 km about to go to 6000 km service.

Bike runs great overall! It is sure a blast after all those years without an inline four!

Engine is fully broken and runs really smooth. But got some numb hands a couple of time riding at high speeds over two hours but not a bad one.

Transmission is also much more better. Lightest gear changes i have ever seen but it might disturb some riders like me as i am used to clicky honda transmissions still upshifts are clicky and only downshifts are a little vague IMO. for others, they say very easy and less tiring to change gears so it is positive for some and negative like others. Clutch-less up shifts even from the second gear is butter smooth!

There is a rattle from the instrument cluster and solution is easy bigwing mechs say, just a couple of foam plasters and all is good they added. But it takes time so left it to 6000 km service.

After removing the stock tail and installing an aftermarket tail tidy, i got lots of mud, dirt and many other road grim on my seat, back, neck and helmet so bought a mud guard for mansoon season and it works great! totally recommended. Anyway, other riders said that stock tail does not prevent mud that mush so a mudguard is a good investment for the bike and if you would like to keep going with your girlfriend happily!

Brakes are cool! Very good modulation and rear brake is really strong this time so less wear for font ones and less pad change. I was getting an high pitch sound like brake fade sound for around 3000 kms especially after brakes are hot but it disappear recently. Anyway bigwing mechs say that it is all about sandpapering the brake pads if the problem continues.

Ergonomics are great! You can stay upright if you get close to the tank and tuck nicely if you move your ass back a bit. Seat is very very comfy surprisingly. Never get any arse pain for 5500 kms but i have an iron bu anyway coming from years of riding. I changed the rearsets and for me, it became easier to ride the bike and more ground clearance and no bad vibrations.

Wind protection is also good for that tiny windscreen. No buffeting. There are some aftermarket screens now but i fear like it might lift the bike or make it worse.

I had a couple of gremlins in bikes electrical system as burned two fuses. But they all appear after changing the stock signals with led ones though. Now one of the signal at right front and right back works in mysterious ways! When i give the signal, right front performs normally but when i open the emergency/hazard lights, 3 of the 20 leds does not light up! But only three of them, no problems for normal signal operation! Same for right rear, it gives less light than left rear somehow at times but not all the time! Not sure what it is, any ideas welcome but i think it is about the wrong selection of relays.

Front light is powerful enough. Personally one does not need one if you dont have problems with your eyes. Still, i am looking for led headlights. Found one 20 watts led headlight for 700 and 900 thb but they say it tends to get hot so they did nto totally recommended it to me. But another auto electrician guy told me that no problems! Might try.

Handling and suspensions. What i like about this bike. handles great. I am happy not buying the Ohlins rear shock right away. i will wait for a nice aftermarket cartridge for front that get the rear ohlins. of course added some more preload to the rear for track days.

Turn ins are easy. I commute in Bangkok and was fearing like bike might feel a lot heavy but Honda did a good job by keeping the center of gravity down so bikes feels light. Especially it gets surprisingly light once the petrol light starts to blink bc it means bike is around 10 kgs lighter. No problems on commuting at congested Bangkok roads.

Also bike generates less heat than i expected. Nearly the same as cbr500r really. Of course, any big bike is disturbing on this matter at 50 degrees Celsius Bangkok asphalt!

Exhaust is a mute one and not giving awareness for others on the road which is a problem for me but apart from that it looks great and packed neatly down the bike. Thinking about getting Devil full system but it is mounted to the side of the bike which makes commuting harder for me. Might wait for a nice exhaust system that fits the same place where the stock pipe is.

Engine sounds great which compensates the mute exhaust especially when it is revving!

I was debating my self for cbr1000rr and cbr650f for a while before buying it but i did the right thing on buying the cbr650f as i commute, tour, go for track days and it is a better compromise that cbr1000rr.

Great low down torque, a very useful 2500 rpm wide power band, and it pulls even from 6th gear easily. above 8000 rpm, it turns to a real monster.

Personally, i dotn need a faster bike that this at roads but thinking to get a cbr1000rr for track days and maybe some rare spirited rides around Thailand. It is also great for my commute.

I am a happy rider having a blast all the time.

can recommend this bike as it holds a great value and real world usability and performance.

if you were riding a 400 cc, i think it should be fine to move to 650 series.

cb650f especially feels lighter.

well found a couple of bad things. I am honest on my review. If i find more, i post it here. But good things are a lot more to mention.

honda will fix that under warranty of course. i am close to the mechs and bigwing bkk staff so these kind of things are small details.

it is just a couple strips of foam plaster.