Fortuner versus Camry Hybrid

[Ace of Pop]

The nice Man was referring to Benzene Engines not Clunkers. Please note Tugboats have tremendous Diesel Torque,but aint much use as a Ski Boat. Never seen a Tuna that does 200KPH.

[anon210]

The nice Man was referring to Benzene Engines not Clunkers. Please note Tugboats have tremendous Diesel Torque,but aint much use as a Ski Boat. Never seen a Tuna that does 200KPH.

This was a thread dedicated to advantages vs inconveniences of Camry vs Fortuner.

Why has it become hijacked to be a discussion of petrol vs diesel and furthermore a somewhat childish brag about dangerous behaviors on the road?

Finally, speeding on the road is a highly dangerous behavior.

This being said, I share the dislike for Fortuner tailgaters.

[Ace of Pop]

The nice Man was referring to Benzene Engines not Clunkers. Please note Tugboats have tremendous Diesel Torque,but aint much use as a Ski Boat. Never seen a Tuna that does 200KPH.

This was a thread dedicated to advantages vs inconveniences of Camry vs Fortuner.

Why has it become hijacked to be a discussion of petrol vs diesel and furthermore a somewhat childish brag about dangerous behaviors on the road?

Finally, speeding on the road is a highly dangerous behavior.

This being said, I share the dislike for Fortuner tailgaters.

Well.it was a rather silly post anyway..The advantages are clear to a Blind Man on a Galloping Horse..Ones a Car , ones a Truck No Comparison , so I for one engaged in Fun replys,not a Superior Sam attitude.

[corkman]

I for 2 enjoyed the anecdotes and tales - and generally find the discussion about torque quite useful, and relevent to my original question. I confess to not knowing a whole lot about cars, from a technical perspective. I did however wonder if the combined petrol and electrical motors of the camry hybrid would mitigage the superior torque of a diesel engine. Having driven a 2.4 petrol accord for a few weeks, and a 2.4 CRV, then I would rather the punchy torque of the forutuner.

I love my fortuner - whilst I am not an "enthusiastic" driver, I do put pedal to metal when it is (relatively) safe to do so i.e. dry conditions, open road, low traffic..... and have never found it to be lacking whether fully loaded with family or on my own..... going up hills, around normal bends, in traffic or on the motor way - only a fool however would mistake it for "sports" car in any shape or form, and if you fail to respect that it is a heavy lump then you may pay the price with life or limb if burrying it into a hard (wet) bend or not oberving some semblence of safe distances.

Incidentally - all the fortuner haters that have replied (tongue in cheek), what do you drive?

Safety - when I bought my fortuner I have a budget. At the time, I weighed the options and concluded the higher position was the winning ticket. I wasn't sure then and I'm still not sure now whether the pick-up based design can really match a passenger designed vehicle in terms of crumple zones etc. Yes of course there are situations where the high riding fortuner will be better than a saloon, but one also has to consider the liklihood of that worst case side impact scenario compared to the liklihood of other scenarios (if someone better informed would like to inform me, that would be great). Suffice it to say however that whilst safety is important, it is not the only consdideration.

It was also just brought to my attention that the C-class mercedes with promotion AMG body kit is 2.25MB. When one considers the 1.8MB price tag of the Camry, then it is not am impossible option. I just looked on the BMW website, and the 3.20i is 2.25MB also, but cannot find any details on that variant. I am still a bit hesitant to part with that much cash, but I am guessing that either of the germans would offer far superior safety, performance, and comfort ..... I get mixed reports however that both brands are plagued with problems, though I suspect that many such reports come from grey-market imports?

The nice Man was referring to Benzene Engines not Clunkers. Please note Tugboats have tremendous Diesel Torque,but aint much use as a Ski Boat. Never seen a Tuna that does 200KPH.

This was a thread dedicated to advantages vs inconveniences of Camry vs Fortuner.

Why has it become hijacked to be a discussion of petrol vs diesel and furthermore a somewhat childish brag about dangerous behaviors on the road?

Finally, speeding on the road is a highly dangerous behavior.

This being said, I share the dislike for Fortuner tailgaters.

Well.it was a rather silly post anyway..The advantages are clear to a Blind Man on a Galloping Horse..Ones a Car , ones a Truck No Comparison , so I for one engaged in Fun replys,not a Superior Sam attitude.

[JoeW]

I for 2 enjoyed the anecdotes and tales - and generally find the discussion about torque quite useful, and relevent to my original question. I confess to not knowing a whole lot about cars, from a technical perspective. I did however wonder if the combined petrol and electrical motors of the camry hybrid would mitigage the superior torque of a diesel engine. Having driven a 2.4 petrol accord for a few weeks, and a 2.4 CRV, then I would rather the punchy torque of the forutuner.

I love my fortuner - whilst I am not an "enthusiastic" driver, I do put pedal to metal when it is (relatively) safe to do so i.e. dry conditions, open road, low traffic..... and have never found it to be lacking whether fully loaded with family or on my own..... going up hills, around normal bends, in traffic or on the motor way - only a fool however would mistake it for "sports" car in any shape or form, and if you fail to respect that it is a heavy lump then you may pay the price with life or limb if burrying it into a hard (wet) bend or not oberving some semblence of safe distances.

Incidentally - all the fortuner haters that have replied (tongue in cheek), what do you drive?

Safety - when I bought my fortuner I have a budget. At the time, I weighed the options and concluded the higher position was the winning ticket. I wasn't sure then and I'm still not sure now whether the pick-up based design can really match a passenger designed vehicle in terms of crumple zones etc. Yes of course there are situations where the high riding fortuner will be better than a saloon, but one also has to consider the liklihood of that worst case side impact scenario compared to the liklihood of other scenarios (if someone better informed would like to inform me, that would be great). Suffice it to say however that whilst safety is important, it is not the only consdideration.

It was also just brought to my attention that the C-class mercedes with promotion AMG body kit is 2.25MB. When one considers the 1.8MB price tag of the Camry, then it is not am impossible option. I just looked on the BMW website, and the 3.20i is 2.25MB also, but cannot find any details on that variant. I am still a bit hesitant to part with that much cash, but I am guessing that either of the germans would offer far superior safety, performance, and comfort ..... I get mixed reports however that both brands are plagued with problems, though I suspect that many such reports come from grey-market imports?

The nice Man was referring to Benzene Engines not Clunkers. Please note Tugboats have tremendous Diesel Torque,but aint much use as a Ski Boat. Never seen a Tuna that does 200KPH.

This was a thread dedicated to advantages vs inconveniences of Camry vs Fortuner.

Why has it become hijacked to be a discussion of petrol vs diesel and furthermore a somewhat childish brag about dangerous behaviors on the road?

Finally, speeding on the road is a highly dangerous behavior.

This being said, I share the dislike for Fortuner tailgaters.

Well.it was a rather silly post anyway..The advantages are clear to a Blind Man on a Galloping Horse..Ones a Car , ones a Truck No Comparison , so I for one engaged in Fun replys,not a Superior Sam attitude.

I mean you can also buy the 1.3 million Camry instead of going for the highest grade.

[transam]

The nice Man was referring to Benzene Engines not Clunkers. Please note Tugboats have tremendous Diesel Torque,but aint much use as a Ski Boat. Never seen a Tuna that does 200KPH.

I believe a diesel as won LeMans 24 hour race a few times. ...................

[mogandave]

3 series BMW and c-series MB are entry level cars, so betting that the quality or safety would be superior to the Toyota would be less than prudent.

I think the Fortuna haters have more of an issue with the drivers then the vehicle itself. I think it is great car, and may buy one when the new model is released.

[transam]

Fortuner is not a truck in any respect. I do not know of any truck that has coil spring suspension all round. It has a chassis that is a chassis, different to it's truck cousin and coil spring suspension. What is bolted to that chassis is not relevant just because a few panels are the same as it's cousin..

[Ace of Pop]

Fortuner is not a truck in any respect. I do not know of any truck that has coil spring suspension all round. It has a chassis that is a chassis, different to it's truck cousin and coil spring suspension. What is bolted to that chassis is not relevant just because a few panels are the same as it's cousin..

It Handles worse than a Truck. A Trucks predictable and faster by far.

[transam]

Fortuner is not a truck in any respect. I do not know of any truck that has coil spring suspension all round. It has a chassis that is a chassis, different to it's truck cousin and coil spring suspension. What is bolted to that chassis is not relevant just because a few panels are the same as it's cousin..

It Handles worse than a Truck. A Trucks predictable and faster by far.

Perhaps we must disagree on our different driving stuff.

[Ace of Pop]

The nice Man was referring to Benzene Engines not Clunkers. Please note Tugboats have tremendous Diesel Torque,but aint much use as a Ski Boat. Never seen a Tuna that does 200KPH.

I believe a diesel as won LeMans 24 hour race a few times. ...................

Sure, I think it was the "Watermelon and Tesco Lotus Trophy".